[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@... wrote: For 14 years, I've connected with millions of people of all ages, nationalities, religions, states of mind and on and on with a mulititude of purposes including promoting 'free speech' in the world. The biggest block to free speech is not the government, but the citizens who are immersed in judgment. It would create a very different outlook if you were to explore my simple website and read the topics that interest you. A little wake-up call, dude. My bet is that for 14 years you have connected with no one. The main reason is that you don't write TO connect with anyone; you write entirely to hear yourself talk and to get people to visit your website so that they can pay attention to you. I got this with the first thing you ever posted here, and have instantly clicked past every one of them since. I doubt that I am alone in doing so. Your vibe is that of a person stand- ing on a soapbox on the Venice Beach shouting Look at me! Look at me! Why on earth would anyone ever want to look at a person like that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
There is always the click button. Curtis wrote: No, really? OMG, there IS a click button! This is gunna save me sooo much time! Very impressive, Curtis! This thread is sooo interesting. So this is what passes for dialog on FFL. LOL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
Arhata Curtis wrote: Gesundheit! Sal wrote: LOL! [Click!]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
yifuxero wrote: Venice Beach, the Rose Cafe, circa early 70's; the place where I first about Swami Muktananda. So, you saw the flyer?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
yifuxero wrote: --Sorry - first learned about Muktananda. What did you learn about the Muktananda? The Mahareeshee uses the term God; but Willytex says people can't use that term. Lakshmanjoo uses it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
Telling me I'm not wanted here is fine. No need to say 'scoot'! It's not exactly the way the Mararishi would respond. shemp wrote: Uh, I wouldn't be too sure of that... Maybe that's where Curtis learned the 'scoot' mantra, but I always thought Curtis learned the 'hop' from the 'Mararishi'. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
shemp wrote: I've always argued that for those that are bothered by what they consider spam or your or my type of posting that it is easy enough to, first, switch to the option of only seeing the message list on the Yahoo! page instead of receiving individual emails for each posting... Oh, my gawd - and miss something by having to read the actual threads? Heaven forbid!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
Arhata, we're interested in knowing you, not your rap or your message right
now. Don't preach to us. We don't want you to be our guru. You can be our
friend, but that is all.
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if
you don't stop spamming the group
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 11:02 PM
Curtis
The judgments you make below are fine, but they do befuddle dialog
a bit. My writing is NOT intended as anything but what I feel to espress.
I love to comment on others if I see the opportunity
Anyone who sees it as other has made their own misinterpretation of any
intentions. You see it one way and another sees it otherwise.
For 14 years, I've connected with millions of people of all ages, nationalities,
religions, states of mind and on and on with a mulititude of purposes including
promoting 'free speech' in the world. The biggest block to free speech is not
the government, but the citizens who are immersed in judgment.
It would create a very different outlook if you were to explore my simple
website
and read the topics that interest
you. My underlying main interest is 'relationships
as a spiritual path {love path} which is the No. 1 path of interest in the
Western
world today. All my writing is an invitation to dialog and from my discerning
experience that I've researched mainly from 'experience' for over 30 years.
People love it and hate it. There is always the click button - no doubt many
on this
site are open - that I know from year of experience. If this is not an open
spiritual/consciousness site, then it's perhaps not in the groups interest.
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this
judgment is
a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked
insecurities and that's
good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's
intent to question
Arhata,
This rap might work on teenagers on Venice Beach but you are not gunna
get any traction with this technique on this board. Insecurity is not
one of this group's qualities.
I checked our your site and you seem like an interesting enough guy.
I would read more of your story. But you are gunna get a warmer
reception here if you treat us like peers and not a class that you
need to enlighten. I don't know your story, which might be
interesting. How about putting down the signs and just talking like
we're just folks.
Tell us about how you got from your daddy's knee to standing around on
Venice Beach spreading a message to strangers. I'm a busker and would
be more than interested in hearing about your experiences.
This can be a friendly place and people will give you an ear if you
show up as yourself behind your message. Ya feel me?
Curtis
why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange
characterization
as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now.
Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A
dialog is
good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2
writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any
thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a
spiritual/conscious
life.
Shalom,
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com,
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Maharishi Group:
Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages,
the last 2 being 'Old People' and
'Reinvent Yourself'
If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group,
and who don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you
should count me out or, offer an explanation.
Here's an explanation: most of your posts are canned, self-promoting,
spiritual pamphlets. In the context of FFL, that constitutes spam, and
this is not the place to do it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
Appreciate your commentary and your noticing that I rap a bit - thank you.
Sorry, am not enlightened and there is a guru on every street corner of
India and it's a rather lowly position. Certainly, you may speak for the
majority, but I like to make friends with
the open minority if there are any and, they have rights too! Try the click
button as I do on most
here. It's easy! This group is but a small minority of where I connect, and I
do it
from passion - preaching is a negative interpretation or quite silly. Not
interested
in teaching - that's an example of judging (and that I might teach!) Perhaps a
positive moderator needs to connect here.
Arhata
PS - Is it my perception, or it this largely male dominated?
Arhata, we're interested in knowing you, not your rap or your
message right now. Don't preach to us. We don't want you to be our guru. You
can be our friend, but that is all.
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ yahoo.com wrote:
From: Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if
you don't stop spamming the group
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 11:02 PM
Curtis
The judgments you make below are fine, but they do befuddle dialog
a bit. My writing is NOT intended as anything but what I feel to espress..
I love to comment on others if I see the opportunity
Anyone who sees it as other has made their own misinterpretation of any
intentions. You see it one way and another sees it otherwise.
For 14 years, I've connected with millions of people of all ages, nationalities,
religions, states of mind and on and on with a mulititude of purposes including
promoting 'free speech' in the world. The biggest block to free speech is
not
the government, but the citizens who are immersed in judgment.
It would create a very different outlook if you were to explore my simple
website
and read the topics that interest
you. My underlying main interest is 'relationships
as a spiritual path {love path} which is the No. 1 path of interest in the
Western
world today. All my writing is an invitation to dialog and from my discerning
experience that I've researched mainly from 'experience' for over 30 years.
People love it and hate it. There is always the click button - no doubt many
on this
site are open - that I know from year of experience. If this is not an open
spiritual/conscious ness site, then it's perhaps not in the groups interest.
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this
judgment is
a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked
insecurities and that's
good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's
intent to question
Arhata,
This rap might work on teenagers on Venice Beach but you are not gunna
get any traction with this technique on this board. Insecurity is not
one of this group's qualities.
I checked our your site and you seem like an interesting enough guy.
I would read more of your story. But you are gunna get a warmer
reception here if you treat us like peers and not a class that you
need to enlighten. I don't know your story, which might be
interesting. How about putting down the signs and just talking like
we're just folks.
Tell us about how you got from your daddy's knee to standing around on
Venice Beach spreading a message to strangers. I'm a busker and would
be more than interested in hearing about your experiences.
This can be a friendly place and people will give you an ear if you
show up as yourself behind your message. Ya feel me?
Curtis
why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange
characterization
as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now.
Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A
dialog is
good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2
writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any
thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a
spiritual/conscious
life.
Shalom,
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com,
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Maharishi Group:
Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages,
the last 2 being 'Old People' and
'Reinvent Yourself'
If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group,
and who don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you
should count me out or, offer an explanation.
Here's an explanation: most of your posts are canned, self-promoting,
spiritual pamphlets. In the context of FFL,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
Perhaps a
positive moderator needs to connect here.
That would not be me.
PS - Is it my perception, or it this largely male dominated?
I'd say no, although some here would say some of the prolific female posters
are the Hillary-type and what's the diff.
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only
love.
- Amma
--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if
you don't stop spamming the group
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 12:48 PM
Appreciate your commentary and your noticing that I rap a bit - thank you.
Sorry, am not enlightened and there is a guru on every street corner of
India and it's a rather lowly position. Certainly, you may speak for the
majority, but I like to make friends with
the open minority if there are any and, they have rights too! Try the click
button as I do on most
here. It's easy! This group is but a small minority of where I connect, and I
do it
from passion - preaching is a negative interpretation or quite silly. Not
interested
in teaching - that's an example of judging (and that I might teach!) Perhaps a
positive moderator needs to connect here.
Arhata
PS - Is it my perception, or it this largely male dominated?
Arhata, we're interested in knowing you, not your rap or your message right
now. Don't preach to us. We don't want you to be our guru. You can be our
friend, but that is all.
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ yahoo.com wrote:
From: Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if
you don't stop spamming the group
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 11:02 PM
Curtis
The judgments you make below are fine, but they do befuddle dialog
a bit. My writing is NOT intended as anything but what I feel to espress.
I love to comment on others if I see the opportunity
Anyone who sees it as other has made their own misinterpretation of any
intentions. You see it one way and another sees it otherwise.
For 14 years, I've connected with millions of people of all ages, nationalities,
religions, states of mind and on and on with a mulititude of purposes including
promoting 'free speech' in the world. The biggest block to free speech is not
the government, but the citizens who are immersed in judgment.
It would create a very different outlook if you were to explore my simple
website
and read the topics that interest you. My underlying main interest is
'relationships
as a spiritual path {love path} which is the No. 1 path of interest in the
Western
world today. All my writing is an invitation to dialog and from my discerning
experience that I've researched mainly from 'experience' for over 30 years.
People love it and hate it. There is always the click button - no doubt many
on this
site are open - that I know from year of experience. If this is not an open
spiritual/conscious ness site, then it's perhaps not in the groups interest.
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this
judgment is
a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked
insecurities and that's
good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's
intent to question
Arhata,
This rap might work on teenagers on Venice Beach but you are not gunna
get any traction with this technique on this board. Insecurity is not
one of this group's qualities.
I checked our your site and you seem like an interesting enough guy.
I would read more of your story. But you are gunna get a warmer
reception here if you treat us like peers and not a class that you
need to enlighten. I don't know your story, which might be
interesting. How about putting down the signs and just talking like
we're just folks.
Tell us about how you got from your daddy's knee to standing around on
Venice Beach spreading a message to strangers. I'm a busker and would
be more than interested in hearing about your experiences.
This can be a friendly place and people will give you an ear if you
show up as yourself behind your message. Ya feel me?
Curtis
why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange
characterization
as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now.
Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A
dialog is
good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2
writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any
thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a
spiritual/conscious
life.
Shalom,
Arhata
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
Arhata,
Here's an offer:
I've written some long pieces herein, and I'll trade ya.
Meaning: I'll read anything you care to post, and I'll prove that I
have by answering one question you include at the end of your post
that pertains to the content. And you do the same for me!
See?
That way you won't be accused of spamming, and instead you and I will
be exchanging POV's in a public forum by regifting. Not spamming!
However, if you refuse this offer, then, in my book, you're merely
reposting blurbifications you've posted elsewhere, and you are not
really interacting with the minds here in the manner preferred by
almost all members.
If you trade with me, you might be surprised at those who'll offer you
the same deal. Several folks here have created posts that are
definitive statements of POV that anyone would be edified by reading
-- if only to have something precise to compare to one's own POV.
Even the trolls here have come up with some nice nutshelling of their
(IMO) twisted POV's that can serve this purpose. Even our beloved
resident troll, Willytex the Marauder, (who has done exactly what
you're doing -- reposting stuff from his Web site) has come up with
scholarly output that forces one to get a jiggier clarity about one's
own truths.
So, get that? You're not being off-handedly rejected here -- but you
are being warned that if the material is already online elsewhere,
then a simple URL at the end of your real time posting would suffice
for those of us who want to be challenged by your mind in a more
saturative manner. If your brand of energy is not alluring, then
folk'll avoid your site, but those who find use for your words will
certainly end up at your Web site sooner or later.
If you're trying to beat the horses here to drink from your trough,
let me echo the advice already given to you: yeah the horses here are
thirsty, but they'd rather die than drink under duress. It is what it is.
Are you willing to be merely another voice here that serves others in
ways you cannot know of or even approve of? That's what it takes to
keep interest here -- willingness to be fodder.
So, In the name of the Fodder, Pun and Holey Boast, I beseech thee!
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
Appreciate your commentary and your noticing that I rap a bit -
thank you.
Sorry, am not enlightened and there is a guru on every street corner of
India and it's a rather lowly position. Certainly, you may speak for
the
majority, but I like to make friends with
the open minority if there are any and, they have rights too! Try
the click
button as I do on most
here. It's easy! This group is but a small minority of where I
connect, and I do it
from passion - preaching is a negative interpretation or quite
silly. Not interested
in teaching - that's an example of judging (and that I might teach!)
Perhaps a
positive moderator needs to connect here.
Arhata
PS - Is it my perception, or it this largely male dominated?
Arhata, we're interested in knowing you, not your rap or
your message right now. Don't preach to us. We don't want you to be
our guru. You can be our friend, but that is all.
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ yahoo.com wrote:
From: Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to
ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 11:02 PM
Curtis
The judgments you make below are fine, but they do befuddle dialog
a bit. My writing is NOT intended as anything but what I feel to
espress..
I love to comment on others if I see the opportunity
Anyone who sees it as other has made their own misinterpretation of any
intentions. You see it one way and another sees it otherwise.
For 14 years, I've connected with millions of people of all ages,
nationalities,
religions, states of mind and on and on with a mulititude of
purposes including
promoting 'free speech' in the world. The biggest block to free
speech is
not
the government, but the citizens who are immersed in judgment.
It would create a very different outlook if you were to explore my
simple website
and read the topics that interest
you. My underlying main interest is 'relationships
as a spiritual path {love path} which is the No. 1 path of interest
in the Western
world today. All my writing is an invitation to dialog and from my
discerning
experience that I've researched mainly from 'experience' for over 30
years.
People love it and hate it. There is always the click button - no
doubt many on this
site are open - that I know from year of experience. If this is not
an open spiritual/conscious ness site, then it's perhaps not in the
groups interest.
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
hey thanks-- former sales guy, eh? :) i hope you find your time well spent hanging out here. from my perspective i don't seperate out the spiritual stuff from my daily life-- the better integrated it is, the better it is. you sound like a very courageous soul, undertaking your life post wall street sales on the basis of a vision. i have acted similarly, though not so dramatically. i wish you well. curious about your current name, since that rajneesh guy was in oregon and also called himself osho. any connection, or just coincidence? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@... wrote: Thank you for your interest I haven't your name? Just a brief response here until later. Brief outline of my background: Graduated at University of Oregon 20 years on Wall st. primarily as an Account Executive in the Financial Field Had a vision to start a spiritual community/center which I did from 1991-2006 while doing the 'world's largest free speech display'(300') located in LA (Venice Beach) with the theme of 'spiritual shock talk writing' -all of it for the learning experience and the passion of doing what I love. Also, had fairly good size meditation groups for the last 20 years. Continue this on a different level above the Olympics in Washington State while hoping to restart a different type of Center. Have material for 7-10 unpublished books waiting for assistance from some one who will edit. My incentive has been a very amazing and successful life of personal intimate relationships, hence my main topic of 'relationships as a spiritual path'. One of my objectives is to influence people around the country to set up small 'freespeech displays' based on any subject, particularly not media-covered and with consciousness. One of my current projects is to connect with 'spiritual yahoo groups' in hopes of making a few friends who are conscious and open. Later and thank you, Arhata hi arhata, i just read some of your billboards on your website, to see what all the fuss is about. what i read were some basic statements about mindfulness and witnessing. what i read were attempts by you to wake people up to a new way of seeing the world. what i read were various essays about facets of mindfulness, such as greater enjoyment through being present and aware. i get all of that. now i want to know more about you. what was your journey to get to this point, where you have come to share what you have learned spiritually, and why you do it? i am much more interested in knowing something about you. otherwise all of your billboards might as well be mildly interesting greeting cards. like for example, you write about a guy you knew who was into meditating and noticing the world. now he is into his job and house and he has bills to pay. are those mutually exclusive ways of being? are you saying that living a fully engaged life in society, paying bills, having a mortgage, raising a family, using credit cards, etc. is antithetical or opposed to living a purely spiritual life, enraptured every moment by the cosmic wonder and immensity of the world within our incomprehensible universe? are material possessions signs to you that i for example, cannot live as a deeply spiritual person, gaining my enlightenment daily, deeply immersed in the profound cosmic wave of life? have at it please. i'm listening.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
Nice to hear from someone here who doesn't stand on a 'tomato pedestal' Basically sales is in my blood but money got to a point that it didn't motivate me knowing there's only so much time and the more 'spiritual' is far more attractive and important for Earth's survival. Being in New York for 20 years, one gets a 'no bullshit' attitude, and since I saw lots of that in the spiritual world, including with Osho followers (I follow no one now, ever, and never) my sister is the top 'religious archeologist' writer in the world uncovering the lies in all major religions (like Jesus was-is pure myth)- if I follow anyone, it's her information which I do write about in my 'flashy way'. Good to meet someone here who has been in the 'real world of sales' (where?) Not sure I got your name Shalom, Arhata hey thanks-- former sales guy, eh? :) i hope you find your time well spent hanging out here. from my perspective i don't seperate out the spiritual stuff from my daily life-- the better integrated it is, the better it is. you sound like a very courageous soul, undertaking your life post wall street sales on the basis of a vision. i have acted similarly, though not so dramatically. i wish you well. curious about your current name, since that rajneesh guy was in oregon and also called himself osho. any connection, or just coincidence? --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote: Thank you for your interest I haven't your name? Just a brief response here until later. Brief outline of my background: Graduated at University of Oregon 20 years on Wall st. primarily as an Account Executive in the Financial Field Had a vision to start a spiritual community/center which I did from 1991-2006 while doing the 'world's largest free speech display'(300' ) located in LA (Venice Beach) with the theme of 'spiritual shock talk writing' -all of it for the learning experience and the passion of doing what I love. Also, had fairly good size meditation groups for the last 20 years. Continue this on a different level above the Olympics in Washington State while hoping to restart a different type of Center. Have material for 7-10 unpublished books waiting for assistance from some one who will edit. My incentive has been a very amazing and successful life of personal intimate relationships, hence my main topic of 'relationships as a spiritual path'. One of my objectives is to influence people around the country to set up small 'freespeech displays' based on any subject, particularly not media-covered and with consciousness. One of my current projects is to connect with 'spiritual yahoo groups' in hopes of making a few friends who are conscious and open. Later and thank you, Arhata hi arhata, i just read some of your billboards on your website, to see what all the fuss is about. what i read were some basic statements about mindfulness and witnessing. what i read were attempts by you to wake people up to a new way of seeing the world. what i read were various essays about facets of mindfulness, such as greater enjoyment through being present and aware. i get all of that. now i want to know more about you. what was your journey to get to this point, where you have come to share what you have learned spiritually, and why you do it? i am much more interested in knowing something about you. otherwise all of your billboards might as well be mildly interesting greeting cards. like for example, you write about a guy you knew who was into meditating and noticing the world. now he is into his job and house and he has bills to pay. are those mutually exclusive ways of being? are you saying that living a fully engaged life in society, paying bills, having a mortgage, raising a family, using credit cards, etc. is antithetical or opposed to living a purely spiritual life, enraptured every moment by the cosmic wonder and immensity of the world within our incomprehensible universe? are material possessions signs to you that i for example, cannot live as a deeply spiritual person, gaining my enlightenment daily, deeply immersed in the profound cosmic wave of life? have at it please. i'm listening.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
You seem to have spent time in Antelope, correct? I think people here would find that experience interesting. Did you also learn TM or even teach it? That would also make your Antelope experience more interesting especially if you contrast the two experiences. Curtis is right that you would get along better here if you treat us as peers. There are lots of people here who have also done more than TM and of course a few who have only done TM and thinks it is the greatest country on earth even though they've never been to another country. In my case I became a TM teacher in 1976. Became, like many here, disenfranchised. Spent a lot of the 1990's hanging out at Jyotish and Ayurveda workshops and symposiums where I made a lot of friends from diverse spiritual backgrounds including some who are famous authors on those subjects. There were even some TM TB'ers on those courses too. Over 8 years ago, through a friend, I made the acquaintance of a Indian Tantric Samrat who resides in my area and I became an initiate of his a few months later (after doing the due diligence every spiritual aspirant should). My guru knew Rajneesh, BTW. He thought he diverged rather dramatically from the path of true tantra. Just some suggestions. Arhata Osho wrote: In response: The message is to 'say heh' to those who are stuck on what you call a spam. No one should read everything of anyone's emails as they may not be applicable, Make a quick decision of discernment, then move on. Surely, new members are welcome - who knows what they will be attracted to. I have sampled by stuff with millions (sorry that that sounds egoistic, it's just the facts), and I know what percentage enjoy reading and who claim it big snip..
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You seem to have spent time in Antelope, correct? No just a 3 day visit after. A best friend 'produced it' and gave Osho the 'theater ideas' to keep thenoodleheads there. I think people here would find that experience interesting. I was too busy living the '70's goodlife in NYC. But, yes very interesting. I have facilitated 50 or so differentmeditations at my Venice Center (and hope to again, as soon as I collect 3 or 4friends to play - have limited budget) Did you also learn TM or even teach it? That would also make your Antelope experience more interesting especially if you contrast the two experiences. Curtis is right that you would get along better here if you treat us as peers. That's actuallyextremely funny as I've spent so much time around the homeless - many artistsand musicians - that's why I reiterate that 'judgment' is dangerous - took me some time to get that - and not an easy one several years ago to write about - as what'sjudgment and not and what's acceptable, etc. Anyway, this is the problem withthe internet and misintepretation - would be good for Curtice to see that - from my viewpoint he appeared as he envisioned me! There are lots of people here who have also done more than TM and of course a few who have only done TM and thinks it is the greatest country on earth even though they've never been to another country. In my case I became a TM teacher in 1976. Became, like many here, disenfranchised. Spent a lot of the 1990's hanging out at Jyotish and Ayurveda workshops and symposiums where I made a lot of friends from diverse spiritual backgrounds including some who are famous authors on those subjects. There were even some TM TB'ers on those courses too. Over 8 years ago, through a friend, I made the acquaintance of a Indian Tantric Samrat who resides in my area and I became an initiate of his a few months later (after doing the due diligence every spiritual aspirant should). My guru knew Rajneesh, BTW. He thought he diverged rather dramatically from the path of true tantra. Osho never was a 'walking tantric' butwas very good at commenting on it better than many who call themselves 'tantra teachers. You've had a great background too.A lot of what I write is 'hail mary spiritual stuff' - I walk it or don't talk it though.Arhata Just some suggestions. Arhata Osho wrote: In response: The message is to 'say heh' to those who are stuck on what you call a spam. No one should read everything of anyone's emails as they may not be applicable, Make a quick decision of discernment, then move on.. Surely, new members are welcome - who knows what they will be attracted to. I have sampled by stuff with millions (sorry that that sounds egoistic, it's just the facts), and I know what percentage enjoy reading and who claim it big snip..
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@... wrote: Nice to hear from someone here who doesn't stand on a 'tomato pedestal' interesting image. yes, the ground has served nicely so far... Basically sales is in my blood but money got to a point that it didn't motivate me knowing there's only so much time and the more 'spiritual' is far more attractive and important for Earth's survival. i figure everyone gets a chance on this sphere; killers, saints, whatever. i respect your decision though. Being in New York for 20 years, one gets a 'no bullshit' attitude, and since I saw lots of that in the spiritual world, including with Osho followers (I follow no one now, ever, and never) yay. my sister is the top 'religious archeologist' writer in the world uncovering the lies in all major religions (like Jesus was- is pure myth) why bother uncovering the lies in all the religions, when all of the religions are basically inefficient, watered down, versions of the truth, that, at best, will lead you in circles? its like studying a dark room. - if I follow anyone, it's her information which I do write about in my 'flashy way'. Good to meet someone here who has been in the 'real world of sales' (where?) i realize when i said i had made similar changes in my life, you could interpret that literally. i have not been in sales, though i am in the 'real world'. Not sure I got your name please call me what you like. Shalom, Arhata cheers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, arhatafreespe...@... wrote: Maharishi Group: Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages, the last 2 being 'Old People' and 'Reinvent Yourself' If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group, and who don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you should count me out or, offer an explanation. Here's an explanation: most of your posts are canned, self-promoting, spiritual pamphlets. In the context of FFL, that constitutes spam, and this is not the place to do it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing this for 15 years with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this judgment is a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked insecurities and that's good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's intent to question why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange characterization as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now. Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A dialog is good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2 writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a spiritual/conscious life. Shalom, Arhata --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote: Maharishi Group: Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages, the last 2 being 'Old People' and 'Reinvent Yourself' If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group, and who don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you should count me out or, offer an explanation. Here's an explanation: most of your posts are canned, self-promoting, spiritual pamphlets. In the context of FFL, that constitutes spam, and this is not the place to do it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@yahoo.comwrote: Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing this for 15 years with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this judgment is a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked insecurities and that's good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's intent to question why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange characterization as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now. Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A dialog is good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2 writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a spiritual/conscious life. Shalom, Arhata Salaam Ah Lakum, Arhata, Me things you are suffering from delusions of grandeur. I privately complained to our moderators because of the canned oversized HTML format, the catchy subject and then the realization that this is yet another pamphlet. Feel free if our gracious hosts will allow you to put these tracts into the Files section. Otherwise, except for an occasional promo from a member, what's prized on FFL is a URL to something that might be of interest to the group or your opinion on something. The views in your pamplets /might/ get someone nervous (but who knows?) if someone actually read one of them. But your pamplets are not read. Please go read the posting guidelines and abide by them or scoot. Ah Lakum Salaam
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@... wrote: Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing this for 15 years with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this judgment is a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked insecurities and that's good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's intent to question Arhata, This rap might work on teenagers on Venice Beach but you are not gunna get any traction with this technique on this board. Insecurity is not one of this group's qualities. I checked our your site and you seem like an interesting enough guy. I would read more of your story. But you are gunna get a warmer reception here if you treat us like peers and not a class that you need to enlighten. I don't know your story, which might be interesting. How about putting down the signs and just talking like we're just folks. Tell us about how you got from your daddy's knee to standing around on Venice Beach spreading a message to strangers. I'm a busker and would be more than interested in hearing about your experiences. This can be a friendly place and people will give you an ear if you show up as yourself behind your message. Ya feel me? Curtis why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange characterization as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now. Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A dialog is good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2 writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a spiritual/conscious life. Shalom, Arhata --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote: Maharishi Group: Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages, the last 2 being 'Old People' and 'Reinvent Yourself' If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group, and who don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you should count me out or, offer an explanation. Here's an explanation: most of your posts are canned, self-promoting, spiritual pamphlets. In the context of FFL, that constitutes spam, and this is not the place to do it.
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Curtis
The judgments you make below are fine, but they do befuddle dialog
a bit. My writing is NOT intended as anything but what I feel to espress..
I love to comment on others if I see the opportunity
Anyone who sees it as other has made their own misinterpretation of any
intentions. You see it one way and another sees it otherwise.
For 14 years, I've connected with millions of people of all ages, nationalities,
religions, states of mind and on and on with a mulititude of purposes including
promoting 'free speech' in the world. The biggest block to free speech is not
the government, but the citizens who are immersed in judgment.
It would create a very different outlook if you were to explore my simple
website
and read the topics that interest you. My underlying main interest is
'relationships
as a spiritual path {love path} which is the No. 1 path of interest in the
Western
world today. All my writing is an invitation to dialog and from my discerning
experience that I've researched mainly from 'experience' for over 30 years.
People love it and hate it. There is always the click button - no doubt many
on this
site are open - that I know from year of experience. If this is not an open
spiritual/consciousness site, then it's perhaps not in the groups interest.
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this
judgment is
a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked
insecurities and that's
good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's
intent to question
Arhata,
This rap might work on teenagers on Venice Beach but you are not gunna
get any traction with this technique on this board. Insecurity is not
one of this group's qualities.
I checked our your site and you seem like an interesting enough guy.
I would read more of your story. But you are gunna get a warmer
reception here if you treat us like peers and not a class that you
need to enlighten. I don't know your story, which might be
interesting. How about putting down the signs and just talking like
we're just folks.
Tell us about how you got from your daddy's knee to standing around on
Venice Beach spreading a message to strangers. I'm a busker and would
be more than interested in hearing about your experiences.
This can be a friendly place and people will give you an ear if you
show up as yourself behind your message. Ya feel me?
Curtis
why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange
characterization
as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now.
Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A
dialog is
good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2
writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any
thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a
spiritual/conscious
life.
Shalom,
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com,
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Maharishi Group:
Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages,
the last 2 being 'Old People' and
'Reinvent Yourself'
If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group,
and who don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you
should count me out or, offer an explanation.
Here's an explanation: most of your posts are canned, self-promoting,
spiritual pamphlets. In the context of FFL, that constitutes spam, and
this is not the place to do it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
Curtis
The judgments you make below are fine, but they do befuddle dialog
a bit.
Asking you to tell your story befuddles you?
My writing is NOT intended as anything but what I feel to espress
So you are not trying to communicate with me, gotcha.
I love to comment on others if I see the opportunity
Anyone who sees it as other has made their own misinterpretation of
any intentions.
Your intentions are for you to clarify. You got some feedback on how
you were coming across.
You see it one way and another sees it otherwise.
For 14 years, I've connected with millions of people of all ages,
nationalities, religions, states of mind and on and on with a
mulititude of purposes including promoting 'free speech' in the
world. The biggest block to free speech is not
the government, but the citizens who are immersed in judgment.
You mean people judging if you are being interesting or boring? Yeah,
that judgment probably isn't going anywhere, you might have to live
with that one.
It would create a very different outlook if you were to explore my
simple website and read the topics that interest you.
I told you I did read your Website, are you reading what I am writing?
My underlying main interest is 'relationships
as a spiritual path {love path} which is the No. 1 path of interest
in the Western world today.
Relationships with whom?
All my writing is an invitation to dialog and from my discerning
experience that I've researched mainly from 'experience' for over 30
years.
Dude we've all been around for a while and have lots of experiences.
I think you are gunna have to focus up a bit if you want to get some
message across.
People love it and hate it.
You haven't gotten either end of intensity out of me yet. I'm still
in befuddlement.
, There is always the click button.
No, really? OMG, there IS a click button! This is gunna save me sooo
much time!
- no doubt many on this site are open
How many. let's see hands...almost everyone!
- that I know from year of experience. If this is not an open
spiritual/consciousness site, then it's perhaps not in the groups
interest.
Oh I get it, if we don't dig what you write it is because we are not
on an open spiritual/consciousness site. Very slick! Personally I
blame Rick for that, he started this site and so far people seem VERY
resistant to people like yourself with 30 years of experiences backing
what they feel to express and not promoting anything at all except
relationships and free speech.
Just one question, should there be free speech? That sounds kind of
like some new fangled concept. I can't see that catching on.
Arhata
Gesundheit!
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this
judgment is
a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked
insecurities and that's
good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's
intent to question
Arhata,
This rap might work on teenagers on Venice Beach but you are not gunna
get any traction with this technique on this board. Insecurity is not
one of this group's qualities.
I checked our your site and you seem like an interesting enough guy.
I would read more of your story. But you are gunna get a warmer
reception here if you treat us like peers and not a class that you
need to enlighten. I don't know your story, which might be
interesting. How about putting down the signs and just talking like
we're just folks.
Tell us about how you got from your daddy's knee to standing around on
Venice Beach spreading a message to strangers. I'm a busker and would
be more than interested in hearing about your experiences.
This can be a friendly place and people will give you an ear if you
show up as yourself behind your message. Ya feel me?
Curtis
why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange
characterization
as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am
now.
Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A
dialog is
good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2
writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any
thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a
spiritual/conscious
life.
Shalom,
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com,
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Maharishi Group:
Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages,
the last 2 being 'Old People' and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Arhata Gesundheit! LOL! Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
Sal Zeit Gesundheit!! On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Arhata Gesundheit! LOL! Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
--Venice Beach, the Rose Cafe, circa early 70's; the place where I first about Swami Muktananda. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ wrote: Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing this for 15 years with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this judgment is a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked insecurities and that's good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's intent to question Arhata, This rap might work on teenagers on Venice Beach but you are not gunna get any traction with this technique on this board. Insecurity is not one of this group's qualities. I checked our your site and you seem like an interesting enough guy. I would read more of your story. But you are gunna get a warmer reception here if you treat us like peers and not a class that you need to enlighten. I don't know your story, which might be interesting. How about putting down the signs and just talking like we're just folks. Tell us about how you got from your daddy's knee to standing around on Venice Beach spreading a message to strangers. I'm a busker and would be more than interested in hearing about your experiences. This can be a friendly place and people will give you an ear if you show up as yourself behind your message. Ya feel me? Curtis why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange characterization as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now. Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A dialog is good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2 writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a spiritual/conscious life. Shalom, Arhata --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote: Maharishi Group: Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages, the last 2 being 'Old People' and 'Reinvent Yourself' If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group, and who don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you should count me out or, offer an explanation. Here's an explanation: most of your posts are canned, self- promoting, spiritual pamphlets. In the context of FFL, that constitutes spam, and this is not the place to do it.
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Curtis
It's ok if you're judgmental, but I haven't the time to go round and round
about misinterpretations that give you away. I'm sure you mean to be
productive in what you
write and if others feel so or not, let them speak up. I only dialog from
the heart and awareness as much as possible. The question remains to me
'are you representative of the general thinking here'?
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Curtis
The judgments you make below are fine, but they do befuddle dialog
a bit.
Asking you to tell your story befuddles you?
My writing is NOT intended as anything but what I feel to espress
So you are not trying to communicate with me, gotcha.
I love to comment on others if I see the opportunity
Anyone who sees it as other has made their own misinterpretation of
any intentions.
Your intentions are for you to clarify. You got some feedback on how
you were coming across.
You see it one way and another sees it otherwise.
For 14 years, I've connected with millions of people of all ages,
nationalities, religions, states of mind and on and on with a
mulititude of purposes including promoting 'free speech' in the
world. The biggest block to free speech is not
the government, but the citizens who are immersed in judgment.
You mean people judging if you are being interesting or boring? Yeah,
that judgment probably isn't going anywhere, you might have to live
with that one.
It would create a very different outlook if you were to explore my
simple website and read the topics that interest you.
I told you I did read your Website, are you reading what I am writing?
My underlying main interest is 'relationships
as a spiritual path {love path} which is the No. 1 path of interest
in the Western world today.
Relationships with whom?
All my writing is an invitation to dialog and from my discerning
experience that I've researched mainly from 'experience' for over 30
years.
Dude we've all been around for a while and have lots of experiences.
I think you are gunna have to focus up a bit if you want to get some
message across.
People love it and hate it.
You haven't gotten either end of intensity out of me yet. I'm still
in befuddlement.
, There is always the click button.
No, really? OMG, there IS a click button! This is gunna save me sooo
much time!
- no doubt many on this site are open
How many. let's see hands...almost everyone!
- that I know from year of experience. If this is not an open
spiritual/conscious ness site, then it's perhaps not in the groups
interest.
Oh I get it, if we don't dig what you write it is because we are not
on an open spiritual/conscious ness site. Very slick! Personally I
blame Rick for that, he started this site and so far people seem VERY
resistant to people like yourself with 30 years of experiences backing
what they feel to express and not promoting anything at all except
relationships and free speech.
Just one question, should there be free speech? That sounds kind of
like some new fangled concept. I can't see that catching on.
Arhata
Gesundheit!
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this
judgment is
a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked
insecurities and that's
good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's
intent to question
Arhata,
This rap might work on teenagers on Venice Beach but you are not gunna
get any traction with this technique on this board. Insecurity is not
one of this group's qualities.
I checked our your site and you seem like an interesting enough guy.
I would read more of your story. But you are gunna get a warmer
reception here if you treat us like peers and not a class that you
need to enlighten. I don't know your story, which might be
interesting. How about putting down the signs and just talking like
we're just folks.
Tell us about how you got from your daddy's knee to standing around on
Venice Beach spreading a message to strangers. I'm a busker and would
be more than interested in hearing about your experiences.
This can be a friendly place and people will give you an ear if you
show up as yourself behind your message. Ya feel me?
Curtis
why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange
characterization
as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am
now.
Self promoting is not a sin, but have no
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--Sorry - first learned about Muktananda. The Mahareeshee uses the term God; but Willytex says people can't use that term. Lakshmanjoo uses it. Swami Lakshmanjoo on karma: The first difference, therefore, between Kashmir Saivism and Vedanta is in their different understanding of karmayoga. This difference, as you have seen, is very great, with the Vedantins believing that karmayoga means doing all actions without asking for their reward and our Kashmir Saivism teaching that yoga in action means doing all actions while maintaining a breakless contemplation of God. ...p. 103,Kashmir Shaivism, the Secret Supreme. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: --Venice Beach, the Rose Cafe, circa early 70's; the place where I first about Swami Muktananda. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ wrote: Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing this for 15 years with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this judgment is a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked insecurities and that's good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's intent to question Arhata, This rap might work on teenagers on Venice Beach but you are not gunna get any traction with this technique on this board. Insecurity is not one of this group's qualities. I checked our your site and you seem like an interesting enough guy. I would read more of your story. But you are gunna get a warmer reception here if you treat us like peers and not a class that you need to enlighten. I don't know your story, which might be interesting. How about putting down the signs and just talking like we're just folks. Tell us about how you got from your daddy's knee to standing around on Venice Beach spreading a message to strangers. I'm a busker and would be more than interested in hearing about your experiences. This can be a friendly place and people will give you an ear if you show up as yourself behind your message. Ya feel me? Curtis why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange characterization as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now. Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A dialog is good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2 writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a spiritual/conscious life. Shalom, Arhata --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote: Maharishi Group: Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages, the last 2 being 'Old People' and 'Reinvent Yourself' If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group, and who don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you should count me out or, offer an explanation. Here's an explanation: most of your posts are canned, self- promoting, spiritual pamphlets. In the context of FFL, that constitutes spam, and this is not the place to do it.
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Curtis Telling me I'm not wanted here is fine. No need to say 'scoot'! It's not exactly the way the Mararishi would respond. You may be representative of consciousness here because of a collective 'belief system' that engenders fear that cloaks as judgment. I get who you are, I'm just into dialog and not judgment. Very interesting that everyone here, as you say, is of one mind. The two essays -'Old People and Reinvent Yourself' hit truth somewhere but truth and denial- fear, are strangers. It's quite amusing that I've never encountered someone 'banned' from a group that wasn't obviously 'abusive'. Thank you for the confirmation of the Zen Stick's value. Arhata On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ yahoo.com wrote: Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing this for 15 years with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this judgment is a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked insecurities and that's good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's intent to question why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange characterization as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now. Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A dialog is good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2 writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a spiritual/conscious life. Shalom, Arhata Salaam Ah Lakum, Arhata, Me things you are suffering from delusions of grandeur. I privately complained to our moderators because of the canned oversized HTML format, the catchy subject and then the realization that this is yet another pamphlet. Feel free if our gracious hosts will allow you to put these tracts into the Files section. Otherwise, except for an occasional promo from a member, what's prized on FFL is a URL to something that might be of interest to the group or your opinion on something. The views in your pamplets /might/ get someone nervous (but who knows?) if someone actually read one of them. But your pamplets are not read. Please go read the posting guidelines and abide by them or scoot. Ah Lakum Salaam
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hi arhata, i just read some of your billboards on your website, to see what all the fuss is about. what i read were some basic statements about mindfulness and witnessing. what i read were attempts by you to wake people up to a new way of seeing the world. what i read were various essays about facets of mindfulness, such as greater enjoyment through being present and aware. i get all of that. now i want to know more about you. what was your journey to get to this point, where you have come to share what you have learned spiritually, and why you do it? i am much more interested in knowing something about you. otherwise all of your billboards might as well be mildly interesting greeting cards. like for example, you write about a guy you knew who was into meditating and noticing the world. now he is into his job and house and he has bills to pay. are those mutually exclusive ways of being? are you saying that living a fully engaged life in society, paying bills, having a mortgage, raising a family, using credit cards, etc. is antithetical or opposed to living a purely spiritual life, enraptured every moment by the cosmic wonder and immensity of the world within our incomprehensible universe? are material possessions signs to you that i for example, cannot live as a deeply spiritual person, gaining my enlightenment daily, deeply immersed in the profound cosmic wave of life? have at it please. i'm listening.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
Curtis
It's ok if you're judgmental, but I haven't the time to go round and
round about misinterpretations that give you away.
Again with the putdowns. You have a great rapport technique.
I'm sure you mean to be productive in what you
write and if others feel so or not, let them speak up.
They already have, I am the village idiot here.
I only dialog from the heart and awareness as much as possible.
And so do I, what a coincidence.
The question remains to me 'are you representative of the general
thinking here'?
No, I am unlike all the other people who will hang on your every word
with ZERO judgment. You should focus on their overwhelmingly positive
feedback...
Arhata
I've run out of jokes here.
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Curtis
The judgments you make below are fine, but they do befuddle dialog
a bit.
Asking you to tell your story befuddles you?
My writing is NOT intended as anything but what I feel to espress
So you are not trying to communicate with me, gotcha.
I love to comment on others if I see the opportunity
Anyone who sees it as other has made their own misinterpretation of
any intentions.
Your intentions are for you to clarify. You got some feedback on how
you were coming across.
You see it one way and another sees it otherwise.
For 14 years, I've connected with millions of people of all ages,
nationalities, religions, states of mind and on and on with a
mulititude of purposes including promoting 'free speech' in the
world. The biggest block to free speech is not
the government, but the citizens who are immersed in judgment.
You mean people judging if you are being interesting or boring? Yeah,
that judgment probably isn't going anywhere, you might have to live
with that one.
It would create a very different outlook if you were to explore my
simple website and read the topics that interest you.
I told you I did read your Website, are you reading what I am writing?
My underlying main interest is 'relationships
as a spiritual path {love path} which is the No. 1 path of interest
in the Western world today.
Relationships with whom?
All my writing is an invitation to dialog and from my discerning
experience that I've researched mainly from 'experience' for over 30
years.
Dude we've all been around for a while and have lots of experiences.
I think you are gunna have to focus up a bit if you want to get some
message across.
People love it and hate it.
You haven't gotten either end of intensity out of me yet. I'm still
in befuddlement.
, There is always the click button.
No, really? OMG, there IS a click button! This is gunna save me sooo
much time!
- no doubt many on this site are open
How many. let's see hands...almost everyone!
- that I know from year of experience. If this is not an open
spiritual/conscious ness site, then it's perhaps not in the groups
interest.
Oh I get it, if we don't dig what you write it is because we are not
on an open spiritual/conscious ness site. Very slick! Personally I
blame Rick for that, he started this site and so far people seem VERY
resistant to people like yourself with 30 years of experiences backing
what they feel to express and not promoting anything at all except
relationships and free speech.
Just one question, should there be free speech? That sounds kind of
like some new fangled concept. I can't see that catching on.
Arhata
Gesundheit!
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this
judgment is
a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked
insecurities and that's
good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's
intent to question
Arhata,
This rap might work on teenagers on Venice Beach but you are not gunna
get any traction with this technique on this board. Insecurity is not
one of this group's qualities.
I checked our your site and you seem like an interesting enough guy.
I would read more of your story. But you are gunna get a warmer
reception here if you treat us like peers and not a class that you
need to enlighten. I don't know your story, which might
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@... wrote: Curtis You are responding to the wrong person. I am the eternal wrote the post you are responding to. Telling me I'm not wanted here is fine. No need to say 'scoot'! It's not exactly the way the Mararishi would respond. You may be representative of consciousness here because of a collective 'belief system' that engenders fear that cloaks as judgment. I get who you are, I'm just into dialog and not judgment. Very interesting that everyone here, as you say, is of one mind. The two essays -'Old People and Reinvent Yourself' hit truth somewhere but truth and denial- fear, are strangers. It's quite amusing that I've never encountered someone 'banned' from a group that wasn't obviously 'abusive'. Thank you for the confirmation of the Zen Stick's value. Arhata On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ yahoo.com wrote: Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing this for 15 years with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this judgment is a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked insecurities and that's good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's intent to question why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange characterization as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now. Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A dialog is good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2 writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a spiritual/conscious life. Shalom, Arhata Salaam Ah Lakum, Arhata, Me things you are suffering from delusions of grandeur. I privately complained to our moderators because of the canned oversized HTML format, the catchy subject and then the realization that this is yet another pamphlet. Feel free if our gracious hosts will allow you to put these tracts into the Files section. Otherwise, except for an occasional promo from a member, what's prized on FFL is a URL to something that might be of interest to the group or your opinion on something. The views in your pamplets /might/ get someone nervous (but who knows?) if someone actually read one of them. But your pamplets are not read. Please go read the posting guidelines and abide by them or scoot. Ah Lakum Salaam
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Thank you for your interest I haven't your name? Just a brief response here until later. Brief outline of my background: Graduated at University of Oregon 20 years on Wall st. primarily as an Account Executive in the Financial Field Had a vision to start a spiritual community/center which I did from 1991-2006 while doing the 'world's largest free speech display'(300') located in LA (Venice Beach) with the theme of 'spiritual shock talk writing' -all of it for the learning experience and the passion of doing what I love. Also, had fairly good size meditation groups for the last 20 years. Continue this on a different level above the Olympics in Washington State while hoping to restart a different type of Center. Have material for 7-10 unpublished books waiting for assistance from some one who will edit. My incentive has been a very amazing and successful life of personal intimate relationships, hence my main topic of 'relationships as a spiritual path'. One of my objectives is to influence people around the country to set up small 'freespeech displays' based on any subject, particularly not media-covered and with consciousness. One of my current projects is to connect with 'spiritual yahoo groups' in hopes of making a few friends who are conscious and open. Later and thank you, Arhata hi arhata, i just read some of your billboards on your website, to see what all the fuss is about. what i read were some basic statements about mindfulness and witnessing. what i read were attempts by you to wake people up to a new way of seeing the world. what i read were various essays about facets of mindfulness, such as greater enjoyment through being present and aware. i get all of that. now i want to know more about you. what was your journey to get to this point, where you have come to share what you have learned spiritually, and why you do it? i am much more interested in knowing something about you. otherwise all of your billboards might as well be mildly interesting greeting cards. like for example, you write about a guy you knew who was into meditating and noticing the world. now he is into his job and house and he has bills to pay. are those mutually exclusive ways of being? are you saying that living a fully engaged life in society, paying bills, having a mortgage, raising a family, using credit cards, etc. is antithetical or opposed to living a purely spiritual life, enraptured every moment by the cosmic wonder and immensity of the world within our incomprehensible universe? are material possessions signs to you that i for example, cannot live as a deeply spiritual person, gaining my enlightenment daily, deeply immersed in the profound cosmic wave of life? have at it please. i'm listening.
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The consensus of this group, Arhata, is, unfortunately, that they want to censor posts. Although I disagree with their rules, it is their right to do it. For example, I believe MY free expression has been curtailed here because I like to post a lot of one or two line responses. But the consensus is that only a maximum of 50 posts a week are allowed. So my type of expression is limited because I would end up doing 100 or more short posts a week whereas those that like to concentrate on only a few but long drawn out posts are comfortable with the 50-a- week rule. I've always argued that for those that are bothered by what they consider spam or your or my type of posting that it is easy enough to, first, switch to the option of only seeing the message list on the Yahoo! page instead of receiving individual emails for each posting. That way one can easily scan about 30 messages at a time and quickly weed out the undesirerables like you and me. Doesn't take a lot of effort and no one is censored. This imposes the very least restriction on one's expression. Sadly, most on this forum don't see it that way so we have to live with their rules. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@... wrote: Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing this for 15 years with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this judgment is a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked insecurities and that's good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's intent to question why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange characterization as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now. Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A dialog is good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2 writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a spiritual/conscious life. Shalom, Arhata --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote: Maharishi Group: Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages, the last 2 being 'Old People' and 'Reinvent Yourself' If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group, and who don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you should count me out or, offer an explanation. Here's an explanation: most of your posts are canned, self- promoting, spiritual pamphlets. In the context of FFL, that constitutes spam, and this is not the place to do it.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@...wrote: Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing this for 15 years with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this judgment is a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked insecurities and that's good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's intent to question why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange characterization as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now. Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A dialog is good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2 writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a spiritual/conscious life. Shalom, Arhata Salaam Ah Lakum, Arhata, Me things you are suffering from delusions of grandeur. I privately complained to our moderators because of the canned oversized HTML format, the catchy subject and then the realization that this is yet another pamphlet. Feel free if our gracious hosts will allow you to put these tracts into the Files section. Otherwise, except for an occasional promo from a member, what's prized on FFL is a URL to something that might be of interest to the group or your opinion on something. The views in your pamplets /might/ get someone nervous (but who knows?) if someone actually read one of them. But your pamplets are not read. Please go read the posting guidelines and abide by them or scoot. Ah Lakum Salaam Tell me, Eternal One, how much of a burden on you is it to simply ignore or delete Aharta's posts? Is it that you've opted to receive all posts as individual emails? If that is the case, why don't you, instead, opt to see all messages -- 30 at a time -- on the Yahoo! page of FFL? That way, you can easily pick and choose whose posts you want to read...and since the message list will give you about 25 words of the post, you can be even more discriminating about who you want to read and who you don't. That way, no one is censored. How about it?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@... wrote: Curtis Telling me I'm not wanted here is fine. No need to say 'scoot'! It's not exactly the way the Mararishi would respond. [snip] Uh, I wouldn't be too sure of that...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: I have asked the moderators to ban you if you don't stop spamming the group
Although, I have no intention, Shem(?) of bowing out or being censored. my yahoo group for anyone open to some really smart kind open people is 'superconsciousn...@yahoogroups.com' The only rules are limit judgment and arguing needlessly and then their is compassion. I suspect many here feel the same way. The number of posts tend to decrease with more thought out emails and with humor and high intelligence. Certainly, there is some of that here and some very good spirits. Arhata The consensus of this group, Arhata, is, unfortunately, that they want to censor posts. Although I disagree with their rules, it is their right to do it. For example, I believe MY free expression has been curtailed here because I like to post a lot of one or two line responses. But the consensus is that only a maximum of 50 posts a week are allowed. So my type of expression is limited because I would end up doing 100 or more short posts a week whereas those that like to concentrate on only a few but long drawn out posts are comfortable with the 50-a- week rule. I've always argued that for those that are bothered by what they consider spam or your or my type of posting that it is easy enough to, first, switch to the option of only seeing the message list on the Yahoo! page instead of receiving individual emails for each posting. That way one can easily scan about 30 messages at a time and quickly weed out the undesirerables like you and me. Doesn't take a lot of effort and no one is censored. This imposes the very least restriction on one's expression. Sadly, most on this forum don't see it that way so we have to live with their rules. --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote: Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing this for 15 years with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this judgment is a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked insecurities and that's good as it's an opportunity for those who see it different than it's intent to question why they see it in a negative light. Canned? Wow - that's a strange characterization as I copy no one and write in a 'stream of consciousness' as I am now. Self promoting is not a sin, but have no idea how that is here? A dialog is good and certainly I hope anyone who feels moved about my last 2 writings (Old People and Reinvent Yourself) will respond with any thoughts! To be open and to 'let go' are routes to a spiritual/conscious life. Shalom, Arhata --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote: Maharishi Group: Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages, the last 2 being 'Old People' and 'Reinvent Yourself' If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group, and who don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you should count me out or, offer an explanation. Here's an explanation: most of your posts are canned, self- promoting, spiritual pamphlets. In the context of FFL, that constitutes spam, and this is not the place to do it.
