Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
In a message dated 9/24/06 10:56:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So far there have been a couple of articles posted here by others that refer to Venezuelan oil as being heavy oil, almost like tar with a higher sulfur content. You might look else where to find out what that means when it comes to refining. I have heard from those in the business it is a longer process and produces more toxic waste than sweet or light crude.There was an article that said that the "mega horde" was in liquid asphald, but that's not what is being used right now, as far as I know. You're the one that claimed that itw as of significantly lower quality than the rest of the world's oils. Why don't YOU back up your claim? Spair, quite frankly, I could care less whether you believe me or not and I'm not going to go to the trouble to research it for you. If you feel compelled to buy CITGO and don't want to feel any guilt , that's fine with me. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
Anything by Thomas Learsy: http://tinyurl.com/hjvlv --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, has anybody here read a good explanation for falling gasoline prices in the United States? I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Other explanations include superradiance and a conspiracy to re-elect Republicans, but I'd prefer to know what mainstream economists are positing. Thanks for any light you can shed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: Hey, has anybody here read a good explanation for falling gasoline prices in the United States? I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Other explanations include superradiance and a conspiracy to re-elect Republicans, but I'd prefer to know what mainstream economists are positing. Thanks for any light you can shed. New source of oil found in Gulf of Mexico; New emphasis on efficient cars; New hydogen cars planned. El Pres. and father are in oil business. They can afford to cut profits a bit before the election; Because in the long run, they will make them back after the election. The current regime, does not want to lose power, Don't ya know... R.G. Despite what uninformed people like Judy Stein say, there is plenty of oil in the world...about 600 years at current consumption levels. Oil should be at about $1.00 a gallon. But we have a cartel artificially controlling the price as well as an outdated distribution system. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Despite what uninformed people like Judy Stein say, there is plenty of oil in the world...about 600 years at current consumption levels. For the record, I've never expressed an opinion here about whether there's plenty of oil in the world. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- shempmcgurk wrote: Anything by Thomas Learsy: http://tinyurl.com/hjvlv Which explains gullible_fool's citation of futures trading... Thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
In a message dated 9/24/06 12:46:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: El Pres. and father are in oil business.They can afford to cut profits a bit before the election;Because in the long run, they will make them back after the election.The current regime, does not want to lose power,Don't ya know... El Presidente has little or no effect on the rise or fall of oil prices. He is not at fault for the rising price of oil nor should he get the credit for it's fall. For some one you have so little respect for and seem to hate you sure give him a lot of credit for manipulating the world's economies. Oh... yeah, I forgot, he's just the puppet, it's Cheney pulling the strings. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Despite what uninformed people like Judy Stein say, there is plenty of oil in the world...about 600 years at current consumption levels. For the record, I've never expressed an opinion here about whether there's plenty of oil in the world. That's right, Judy, you never expressed the opinion that there are only a trillion barrels of consumable oil left in the world and that in less than 30 years it will all be gone. No, you never said any of that...for the record. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
I heard a scientist on Coast to Coast talk show who felt that the production of oil under the earth was the result of a natural 'fermentation/distillation process and NOT from petrified dinosaurs since many of the oil finds never included the existence of dinosaur remains, i.e. the Gulf of Mexico. For this reason, there is an unlimited amount of oil. Personally, because I believe oil with all its by products is perfectly inimical to the life here on earth as we know it, other fuel sources are recommended --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Despite what uninformed people like Judy Stein say, there is plenty of oil in the world...about 600 years at current consumption levels. For the record, I've never expressed an opinion here about whether there's plenty of oil in the world. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Despite what uninformed people like Judy Stein say, there is plenty of oil in the world...about 600 years at current consumption levels. For the record, I've never expressed an opinion here about whether there's plenty of oil in the world. That's right, Judy, you never expressed the opinion that there are only a trillion barrels of consumable oil left in the world and that in less than 30 years it will all be gone. No, you never said any of that...for the record. Never expressed an opinion about whether there's plenty of oil in the world either on or off the record. Don't *have* an opinion about it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/23/06 8:27:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, has anybody here read a good explanation for falling gasoline prices in the United States? I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Other explanations include superradiance and a conspiracy to re-elect Republicans, but I'd prefer to know what mainstream economists are positing. Thanks for any light you can shed. We are over stocked with oil at this time. The Saudi's told us earlier this year they would increase output and we have been buying up every bit we could for many reasons. Some speculated war with Iran, others thought that Hurricanes this year would shut down Gulf of Mexico production, there was a fear at one time that the BP oil pipeline would be shut down for months but none of these things have occurred. I would also bet that refineries have been operating at peak production with the glut of oil reserves we now have. I have also noticed more ethanol blends being sold which would stretch that supply of refined gas causing us to require less crude. The bad news is that it's only tem porary so enjoy it while you can. The good news is that there has been a major oil find in the Gulf of Mexico that is estimated could supply 11% of our current needs and there is more oil out there to be found. Combine that with developing alternative sources of energy and I don't see doom and gloom. But conspiracy theories are more fun, aren't they? P.S. Venezuelan oil is very heavy crude and has a very high sulfur content and requires much more refining to make good gasoline and it also produces more toxic waste from that refining process. That is why I have never bought CITGO. Where di you find this statistic? I checked online. Most curde oil is considered somewhat high in sulfur content. I couldn't find reports saying that Venuzela's crude is signficantly worse than the world average in that regard. BTW, a huge part of our oil comes from Venuzuela. Just because you don't buy driectly from CITCO doesn't mean you're not buying gas refubed frin Venezuelen crude. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, a huge part of our oil comes from Venuzuela. Just because you don't buy driectly from CITCO doesn't mean you're not buying gas refubed frin Venezuelen crude. refubed frin... Lost my home keys for a second--not sure WHAT I was trying to say... refined from? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
In a message dated 9/24/06 11:22:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: conspiracy theories are more fun, aren't they? P.S. Venezuelan oil is very heavy crude and has a very high sulfur content and requires much more refining to make good gasoline and it also produces more toxic waste from that refining process. That is why I have never bought CITGO.Where di you find this statistic? I checked online. Most curde oil is considered somewhat high in sulfur content. I couldn't find reports saying that Venuzela's crude is signficantly worse than the world average in that regard.BTW, a huge part of our oil comes from Venuzuela. Just because you don't buy driectly from CITCO doesn't mean you're not buying gas refubed frin Venezuelen crude. I don't think I provided any statistics in my comment Spair. I repeated what I have heard mentioned many times in the past and more recently by experts in the oil industry. Venezuelan crude is called heavy crude and is harder to pump out of the ground and refine. Oil from the middle east is usually referred to as sweet crude because it is light and easy to pump with less trash in it. As far as being absolutely sure I'm not buying gasoline made from Venezuelan oil, you're right, you never really know , but I do know that CITGO is made from Venezuelan heavy crude. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Despite what uninformed people like Judy Stein say, there is plenty of oil in the world...about 600 years at current consumption levels. For the record, I've never expressed an opinion here about whether there's plenty of oil in the world. Judy, is this relevant on a spiritual board ? That's right, Judy, you never expressed the opinion that there are only a trillion barrels of consumable oil left in the world and that in less than 30 years it will all be gone. No, you never said any of that...for the record. Never expressed an opinion about whether there's plenty of oil in the world either on or off the record. Don't *have* an opinion about it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Despite what uninformed people like Judy Stein say, there is plenty of oil in the world...about 600 years at current consumption levels. For the record, I've never expressed an opinion here about whether there's plenty of oil in the world. Judy, is this relevant on a spiritual board ? Um, this was a response to Shemp. Ask him. That's right, Judy, you never expressed the opinion that there are only a trillion barrels of consumable oil left in the world and that in less than 30 years it will all be gone. No, you never said any of that...for the record. Never expressed an opinion about whether there's plenty of oil in the world either on or off the record. Don't *have* an opinion about it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
Patrick How are you? Gas prices are subject to crude oil prices in that gas is made from crude. As crude prices rises, gas price rise. There is a margin that always exits between the two. The exact spread between the two may flucuate, but there is always a spread. Crude prices have had about a $20 - $30 fear premium built into them for a while due to geopolitical fears of disruptions of supply mostly from the middle east (and the Lebanon War with Isreal and Iran Saber rattling, etc) some disruptions from Nigeria. Opec has also been pumping full out, because at $70 per barrel, they are making a $fortune$. There was also a huge amount of sepculation on crude in the futures market by hedge funds which further exacerbated the price. Now there is a glut of crude on the world markets and hedge funds are liquidateing their long posistions in crude, hence $61.59 crude price close Friday. Opec is also now trying to get producing countries to cut back supply to keep the prices from falling too far and too fast.they ususually do not abide by these quotas, so most likely in the short term OPEC production will remain constant which will help further drive oil prices down. Crude prices will most likely end up somewhere between $40 - $50 per barrel within the next 12 months. (Unless of course there are major supply disruptions by a middle east war etc.) So our gas prices will moderate due to crude prices moderating. Gasoline prices are also subject to a seasonal price flucuations, spring and summer gas prices are higher due to higher demand for gas for the summer driving season. Katrina also knocked out some refineries last year and that had a negative impact on the price of gas too as supplies were disrupted. There has also been a shortage of refineries in the US partially due to the cost of building them and the envirnmental rules and laws that govern them...in other words oil companies and refineries have been not been building them over the past 10 - 20 years to keep up with the pace of growing gas demand. Finally every state has different requirements for pollution standards for gasoline which creates a problem for refineries. It is true as stated by others on the post that the actual wholesale price for gas and crude oil is determined on the futures markets, (and in the cash spot market too). Supply, demand, fear, expectations and speculation get built into the price of oil or any commodity for that matter. I have not addressed all the issues surrounding your question, but these are some of the major points, Regards, David --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, has anybody here read a good explanation for falling gasoline prices in the United States? I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Other explanations include superradiance and a conspiracy to re-elect Republicans, but I'd prefer to know what mainstream economists are positing. Thanks for any light you can shed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/06 11:22:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: conspiracy theories are more fun, aren't they? P.S. Venezuelan oil is very heavy crude and has a very high sulfur content and requires much more refining to make good gasoline and it also produces more toxic waste from that refining process. That is why I have never bought CITGO. Where di you find this statistic? I checked online. Most curde oil is considered somewhat high in sulfur content. I couldn't find reports saying that Venuzela's crude is signficantly worse than the world average in that regard. BTW, a huge part of our oil comes from Venuzuela. Just because you don't buy driectly from CITCO doesn't mean you're not buying gas refubed frin Venezuelen crude. I don't think I provided any statistics in my comment Spair. I repeated what I have heard mentioned many times in the past and more recently by experts in the oil industry. Venezuelan crude is called heavy crude and is harder to pump out of the ground and refine. Oil from the middle east is usually referred to as sweet crude because it is light and easy to pump with less trash in it. As far as being absolutely sure I'm not buying gasoline made from Venezuelan oil, you're right, you never really know , but I do know that CITGO is made from Venezuelan heavy crude. Article on Venezuelan oil in today's SF Chronicle: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/09/24/MNGNSLBRUG1.DTL To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- authfriend wrote: --- nablus108 wrote: Judy, is this relevant on a spiritual board ? Um, this was a response to Shemp. Ask him. Also, nablus, the usual rules about staying on topic don't apply here. We talk about whatever we want. That's why I asked about gas prices here. As you can see from the responses, we have some well- read participants. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/06 11:22:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: conspiracy theories are more fun, aren't they? P.S. Venezuelan oil is very heavy crude and has a very high sulfur content and requires much more refining to make good gasoline and it also produces more toxic waste from that refining process. That is why I have never bought CITGO. Where di you find this statistic? I checked online. Most curde oil is considered somewhat high in sulfur content. I couldn't find reports saying that Venuzela's crude is signficantly worse than the world average in that regard. BTW, a huge part of our oil comes from Venuzuela. Just because you don't buy driectly from CITCO doesn't mean you're not buying gas refubed frin Venezuelen crude. I don't think I provided any statistics in my comment Spair. I repeated what I have heard mentioned many times in the past and more recently by experts in the oil industry. Venezuelan crude is called heavy crude and is harder to pump out of the ground and refine. Oil from the middle east is usually referred to as sweet crude because it is light and easy to pump with less trash in it. As far as being absolutely sure I'm not buying gasoline made from Venezuelan oil, you're right, you never really know , but I do know that CITGO is made from Venezuelan heavy crude. I can't find any site that says its worse than average. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Gillam wrote: Hey, has anybody here read a good explanation for falling gasoline prices in the United States? I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Other explanations include superradiance and a conspiracy to re-elect Republicans, but I'd prefer to know what mainstream economists are positing. Thanks for any light you can shed. I highly doubt superradiance has that much of an effect. Otherwise gas prices would drop every time there is a Kumba Mela. However I am pretty sure that the scumbags that run the oil companies want to see their Republican thug cronies re-elected and have dropped the prices accordingly. Watch them go back up after the election. You're assuming that any Kumba Mela has the same effect as group flying in the domes... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Gillam wrote: Hey, has anybody here read a good explanation for falling gasoline prices in the United States? I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Other explanations include superradiance and a conspiracy to re-elect Republicans, but I'd prefer to know what mainstream economists are positing. Thanks for any light you can shed. I highly doubt superradiance has that much of an effect. Otherwise gas prices would drop every time there is a Kumba Mela. However I am pretty sure that the scumbags that run the oil companies want to see their Republican thug cronies re-elected and have dropped the prices accordingly. Watch them go back up after the election. You're assuming that any Kumba Mela has the same effect as group flying in the domes... Probably a much better effect. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 9/24/06 6:35:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where di you find this statistic? I checked online. Most curde oil is considered somewhat high in sulfur content. I couldn't find reports saying that Venuzela's crude is signficantly worse than the world average in that regard. BTW, a huge part of our oil comes from Venuzuela. Just because you don't buy driectly from CITCO doesn't mean you're not buying gas refubed frin Venezuelen crude. I don't think I provided any statistics in my comment Spair. I repeated what I have heard mentioned many times in the past and more recently by experts in the oil industry. Venezuelan crude is called heavy crude and is harder to pump out of the ground and refine. Oil from the middle east is usually referred to as sweet crude because it is light and easy to pump with less trash in it. As far as being absolutely sure I'm not buying gasoline made from Venezuelan oil, you're right, you never really know , but I do know that CITGO is made from Venezuelan heavy crude.I can't find any site that says its worse than average. So far there have been a couple ofarticles posted hereby others that refer to Venezuelan oil as being heavy oil, almost like tar with a higher sulfur content. You might look else where to find out what that means when it comes to refining. I have heard from those in the business it is a longer process and produces more toxic waste than sweet or light crude. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/06 6:35:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where di you find this statistic? I checked online. Most curde oil is considered somewhat high in sulfur content. I couldn't find reports saying that Venuzela's crude is signficantly worse than the world average in that regard. BTW, a huge part of our oil comes from Venuzuela. Just because you don't buy driectly from CITCO doesn't mean you're not buying gas refubed frin Venezuelen crude. I don't think I provided any statistics in my comment Spair. I repeated what I have heard mentioned many times in the past and more recently by experts in the oil industry. Venezuelan crude is called heavy crude and is harder to pump out of the ground and refine. Oil from the middle east is usually referred to as sweet crude because it is light and easy to pump with less trash in it. As far as being absolutely sure I'm not buying gasoline made from Venezuelan oil, you're right, you never really know , but I do know that CITGO is made from Venezuelan heavy crude. I can't find any site that says its worse than average. So far there have been a couple of articles posted here by others that refer to Venezuelan oil as being heavy oil, almost like tar with a higher sulfur content. You might look else where to find out what that means when it comes to refining. I have heard from those in the business it is a longer process and produces more toxic waste than sweet or light crude. There was an article that said that the mega horde was in liquid asphald, but that's not what is being used right now, as far as I know. You're the one that claimed that itw as of significantly lower quality than the rest of the world's oils. Why don't YOU back up your claim? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14891597/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, has anybody here read a good explanation for falling gasoline prices in the United States? I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Other explanations include superradiance and a conspiracy to re-elect Republicans, but I'd prefer to know what mainstream economists are positing. Thanks for any light you can shed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, has anybody here read a good explanation for falling gasoline prices in the United States? I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Other explanations include superradiance and a conspiracy to re-elect Republicans, but I'd prefer to know what mainstream economists are positing. Thanks for any light you can shed. The three biggest factors in the fluctuation of gas prices are: 1. Futures trading. 2. Futures trading. 3. Futures trading. So what is the biggest factors that influence futures trading? 1. Futures trading. 2. Futures trading. 3. Futures trading. So what influences THAT? It's future's trading all the way down... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- at_man_and_brahman wrote: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14891597/ --- Gillam wrote: I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Okay, now I see. Thanks! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- sparaig wrote: It's future's trading all the way down... ; - ) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, has anybody here read a good explanation for falling gasoline prices in the United States? I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Other explanations include superradiance and a conspiracy to re-elect Republicans, but I'd prefer to know what mainstream economists are positing. Thanks for any light you can shed. Because a massive oil field was recently discovered that is controlled by US companies and allied states in the Gulf of Mexico which will be enough for the North America for the next 20 years and beyondtherefore the oil cartels cannot play the dangerous shortage due to middle east crises' , etc, and dependency on foreign oil anymore. That excuse has disappeared for a very long time to come. http://tinyurl.com/k69e6 http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/050906_massive_oil.html OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, has anybody here read a good explanation for falling gasoline prices in the United States? I don't see how supply is any higher or demand any lower, which would be the purest explanations. Other explanations include superradiance and a conspiracy to re-elect Republicans, but I'd prefer to know what mainstream economists are positing. Thanks for any light you can shed. New source of oil found in Gulf of Mexico; New emphasis on efficient cars; New hydogen cars planned. El Pres. and father are in oil business. They can afford to cut profits a bit before the election; Because in the long run, they will make them back after the election. The current regime, does not want to lose power, Don't ya know... R.G. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
