[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act.

Just as an experiment, replace the word 'guru' in the 
above sentence with other words, and see how you feel
about the guys in question:

I see guys acting just as their Daddy has requested that they act.

I see guys acting just as their Mommy has requested that they act.

I see guys acting just as their gpvernment has requested that they act.

I see guys acting just as their priest has requested that they act.

I see guys acting just as their family has requested that they act.

...etc.

If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys,
who has so little going for him that he just does what
he is told without question, good for you. Some of us
prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do...








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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
   How do you know its faux enlightenment?
  
  Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
  enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not
  acting like a dick?
  
  (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar
  playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses}
 
 Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act.
 
 What's pompous about that?

I don't think anyone held a gun to anyone's head, to wear a crown.
Perhaps they like wearing crowns.
Many monarchs past and present seem to like their crowns...
Besides, who cares?
Look at the Catholic church, and all of their head-dress;
Those Native Americans, were many pretty wild cults...?
Yes? But certain European cults, who considered them inferior-
Like, that cult wiped them out.
Is TM wiping anyone out.
Has any witch been burned at the stack, by the TMO.
Has anyone been beheaded, as they do in the purest Saudi Arabian 
cult...
The Islamic cult, think suicide is cute...
As far as cults, I would think the TMO;
 So, if cults is your study- The TMO is certainly not the weirdest, as 
you say;
Quite the contrary, I would think..
R.G.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
How do you know its faux enlightenment?
   
   Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
   enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include 
   not acting like a dick?
   
   (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the 
   guitar playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous 
   asses}
  
  Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that 
  they act.
  
  What's pompous about that?
 
 I don't think anyone held a gun to anyone's head, to wear a crown.
 Perhaps they like wearing crowns.

It's a kind of peer-pressure gun. These are people
who have decided that being close to the guru or
(even sadder) being *perceived* as being close to
the guru is the most important thing in their lives.

This phenomenon exists in many spiritual trips. But
in most of them, the guru doesn't make someone
pay a million bucks for the privilege of being
perceived as close to him. In the TMO, he does.
And there are people who actually go for it.

As a personal choice, I guess it's acceptable. But
if you're suggesting that they're not *laughable*
to have *made* that choice, I don't think you're
going to find very many people on the planet who
agree with you. The rest would consider these
people fools.

A question for Sparaig the Professional TM Apologist:

Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects*
these people?

If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have 
actually had some experience being around him and 
watching how he treats people would disagree with
you. 

I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers
them fools, too. 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
 How do you know its faux enlightenment?

Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include 
not acting like a dick?

(I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the 
guitar playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous 
asses}
   
   Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that 
   they act.
   
   What's pompous about that?
  
  I don't think anyone held a gun to anyone's head, to wear a crown.
  Perhaps they like wearing crowns.
 
 It's a kind of peer-pressure gun. These are people
 who have decided that being close to the guru or
 (even sadder) being *perceived* as being close to
 the guru is the most important thing in their lives.
 
 This phenomenon exists in many spiritual trips. But
 in most of them, the guru doesn't make someone
 pay a million bucks for the privilege of being
 perceived as close to him. In the TMO, he does.
 And there are people who actually go for it.
 
 As a personal choice, I guess it's acceptable. But
 if you're suggesting that they're not *laughable*
 to have *made* that choice, I don't think you're
 going to find very many people on the planet who
 agree with you. The rest would consider these
 people fools.
 
 A question for Sparaig the Professional TM Apologist:
 
 Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects*
 these people?
 
 If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have 
 actually had some experience being around him and 
 watching how he treats people would disagree with
 you. 
 
 I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers
 them fools, too.

You seem to know all the details of the millionares course. You must 
know that the techniques they received and the new programme was not 
worth the money for these rich people ! Right ?
Ot perhaps you are the fool.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
  It's a kind of peer-pressure gun. These are people
  who have decided that being close to the guru or
  (even sadder) being *perceived* as being close to
  the guru is the most important thing in their lives.
  
  This phenomenon exists in many spiritual trips. But
  in most of them, the guru doesn't make someone
  pay a million bucks for the privilege of being
  perceived as close to him. In the TMO, he does.
  And there are people who actually go for it.
  
  As a personal choice, I guess it's acceptable. But
  if you're suggesting that they're not *laughable*
  to have *made* that choice, I don't think you're
  going to find very many people on the planet who
  agree with you. The rest would consider these
  people fools.
  
  A question for Sparaig the Professional TM Apologist:
  
  Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects*
  these people?
  
  If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have 
  actually had some experience being around him and 
  watching how he treats people would disagree with
  you. 
  
  I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers
  them fools, too.
 
 You seem to know all the details of the millionares course. You must 
 know that the techniques they received and the new programme was not 
 worth the money for these rich people ! Right ?

Not having been foolish enough to pay for such
techniques, I couldn't say for sure. If I were
to guess, I would imagine that the Return On 
Investment was similar to that of the TM Sidhis
(which cost $5000 or so, depending on when/where 
you got them) compared to the $5 paperback copy 
of the Yoga Sutras they were taken from. Using 
the same percentage (0.001%), that makes the 
million dollar techniques) worth about $1000.
 
 Ot perhaps you are the fool.

Very possibly. I did pay 5000 bucks for something
worth 5 bucks, which definitely makes me a fool. 
But I learned from that experience, and stopped 
short of paying 1 million bucks for something 
worth a thousand...if it's worth that much...








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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  It's a kind of peer-pressure gun. These are people
  who have decided that being close to the guru or
  (even sadder) being *perceived* as being close to
  the guru is the most important thing in their lives.
 
  This phenomenon exists in many spiritual trips. But
  in most of them, the guru doesn't make someone
  pay a million bucks for the privilege of being
  perceived as close to him. In the TMO, he does.
  And there are people who actually go for it.
 
  As a personal choice, I guess it's acceptable. But
  if you're suggesting that they're not *laughable*
  to have *made* that choice, I don't think you're
  going to find very many people on the planet who
  agree with you. The rest would consider these
  people fools.
 
  A question for Sparaig the Professional TM Apologist:
 
  Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects*
  these people?
 
  If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have
  actually had some experience being around him and
  watching how he treats people would disagree with
  you.
 
  I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers
  them fools, too.

 You seem to know all the details of the millionares course. You must
 know that the techniques they received and the new programme was not
 worth the money for these rich people ! Right ?

Not having been foolish enough to pay for such
techniques, I couldn't say for sure. If I were
to guess, I would imagine that the Return On
Investment was similar to that of the TM Sidhis
(which cost $5000 or so, depending on when/where
you got them) compared to the $5 paperback copy
of the Yoga Sutras they were taken from. Using
the same percentage (0.1%), that makes the
million dollar techniques worth about $1000.

 Ot perhaps you are the fool.

Very possibly. I did pay 5000 bucks for something
worth 5 bucks, which definitely makes me a fool.
But I learned from that experience, and stopped
short of paying 1 million bucks for something
worth a thousand...if it's worth that much...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not having been foolish enough to pay for such
 techniques, I couldn't say for sure. If I were
 to guess, I would imagine that the Return On
 Investment was similar to that of the TM Sidhis
 (which cost $5000 or so, depending on when/where
 you got them) compared to the $5 paperback copy
 of the Yoga Sutras they were taken from. Using
 the same percentage (0.1%), that makes the
 million dollar techniques worth about $1000.
 
  Ot perhaps you are the fool.
 
 Very possibly. I did pay 5000 bucks for something
 worth 5 bucks, which definitely makes me a fool.
 But I learned from that experience, and stopped
 short of paying 1 million bucks for something
 worth a thousand...if it's worth that much...

Perhaps the perspective of the rajas differs from yours. How could
they not see it as a donation to a cause they believe in. If you have
10 mil+ and are in your 50-60's, and perhaps have no heirs, donating
portions of your estate makes sense, is a pleasure, -- and not a pinch. 

Those that look to spiritual things with a sherp pencil and approach
it whats in it for ME? are perhaps missing something.

 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they 
act.
 
 Just as an experiment, replace the word 'guru' in the 
 above sentence with other words, and see how you feel
 about the guys in question:
 
 I see guys acting just as their Daddy has requested that they act.
 
 I see guys acting just as their Mommy has requested that they act.
 
 I see guys acting just as their gpvernment has requested that they 
act.
 
 I see guys acting just as their priest has requested that they act.
 
 I see guys acting just as their family has requested that they act.
 
 ...etc.
 
 If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys,
 who has so little going for him that he just does what
 he is told without question, good for you. Some of us
 prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do...

Er, without question wasn't part of either
formulation.

It's entirely possible to want to do something
someone has requested that you do, for any
number of reasons, and after extensive questioning.

What Barry seems to be suggesting is that you
should never want to do anything someone has
requested that you do.  Questioning such a 
request, according to Barry, should *always*
result in your deciding you don't want to do
whatever it is.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 4, 2006, at 8:40 AM, authfriend wrote:


 If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys,
 who has so little going for him that he just does what
 he is told without question, good for you. Some of us
 prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do...

 Er, without question wasn't part of either
 formulation.

 It's entirely possible to want to do something
 someone has requested that you do, for any
 number of reasons, and after extensive questioning.

You really think that people *want* to listen to that boring nonsense 
droning on for hour after hour?  Would you?

Sal



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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Oct 4, 2006, at 8:40 AM, authfriend wrote:
 
 
  If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys,
  who has so little going for him that he just does what
  he is told without question, good for you. Some of us
  prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do...
 
  Er, without question wasn't part of either
  formulation.
 
  It's entirely possible to want to do something
  someone has requested that you do, for any
  number of reasons, and after extensive questioning.
 
 You really think that people *want* to listen to that
 boring nonsense droning on for hour after hour?  Would
 you?

I wouldn't, but neither would I rule out that some
others might enjoy it.  Different strokes, and all
that.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Not having been foolish enough to pay for such
  techniques, I couldn't say for sure. If I were
  to guess, I would imagine that the Return On
  Investment was similar to that of the TM Sidhis
  (which cost $5000 or so, depending on when/where
  you got them) compared to the $5 paperback copy
  of the Yoga Sutras they were taken from. Using
  the same percentage (0.1%), that makes the
  million dollar techniques worth about $1000.
  
   Ot perhaps you are the fool.
  
  Very possibly. I did pay 5000 bucks for something
  worth 5 bucks, which definitely makes me a fool.
  But I learned from that experience, and stopped
  short of paying 1 million bucks for something
  worth a thousand...if it's worth that much...
 
 Perhaps the perspective of the rajas differs from yours. 

I would say that that's a given. :-)

 How could
 they not see it as a donation to a cause they believe in? 

I'm sure they do.

 If you have 10 mil+ 
 and are in your 50-60's, and perhaps have no heirs, donating
 portions of your estate makes sense, is a pleasure, -- and 
 not a pinch. 

You left out the part about giving up any semblance
of a normal life, but sure...it's their choice, and
I support their right to make it. I was only saying
that they're pretty darned laughable to have made
that choice, and I stand by that. 

If *I* had 10+ million bucks and felt like donating
some of it to a cause that I believe in, I think 
I'd manage to find a way to do so without having
to wear flowing white robes and a Burger King crown.

The fact that they didn't is what makes them 
laughable. 









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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
 wrote:
 
  On Oct 4, 2006, at 8:40 AM, authfriend wrote:
  
  
   If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys,
   who has so little going for him that he just does what
   he is told without question, good for you. Some of us
   prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do...
  
   Er, without question wasn't part of either
   formulation.
  
   It's entirely possible to want to do something
   someone has requested that you do, for any
   number of reasons, and after extensive questioning.
  
  You really think that people *want* to listen to that
  boring nonsense droning on for hour after hour?  Would
  you?
 
 I wouldn't, but neither would I rule out that some
 others might enjoy it.  Different strokes, and all
 that.

I have been listening since yesterday. In background while I work.
(Yes, the shame! Divided attention and all).

I like parts. Whats on right now: That power is your Self. You are
heaven on Earth

What is strange or wierd about that? Its the message of every saint. I
find this new speak crisper and yet more openly spiritual -- with
lots more vedic references -- than the past. 

To me, its a cleaner, crisper vision and set of talks than many other
spiritual groups / leaders i have heard. 

That is not saying the TMO necessarily has the full goods, nor is it
a comparision between groups. But my sense of what the raja techniques
are -- holding and sustaining awareness of the welfare and blossoming
of an area at finest level -- is nice. I am glad someone, some group,
is doing that. Who knows the effect. Maybe its small, maybe its large.
 No study disproves either. But I like that the rajas (and
raja--eswas) are doing this. As I like that buddhist monks chant. And
christian monks go into silence and pray for the world. etc. 

Its all good. Why the mocking? 

 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If *I* had 10+ million bucks and felt like donating
 some of it to a cause that I believe in, I think 
 I'd manage to find a way to do so without having
 to wear flowing white robes and a Burger King crown.

But then you have established, it appears, that you approach spiritual
choices with a sharp pencil, asking whats in it or me?! Perhaps some
of the rajas long ago figured out that the me is insubstantial and
hollow/empty. 
 
 The fact that they didn't is what makes them 
 laughable.

Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting
others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother
taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of
Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the
thought to laugh at others.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
(Regarding Rajas)
 Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects*
 these people?
 
 If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have 
 actually had some experience being around him and 
 watching how he treats people would disagree with
 you. 
 
 I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers
 them fools, too.

I completely disagree. I think that Maharishi deeply loves and 
respects the Rajas. They may act like fools, but it is still their 
right to do so, and better for them to work it out then stop it as a 
result of outside influences.

Personally though,as a form of inspriration and/or entertainment I 
continue to find it bring...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
I consider making fun of the Rajas to be my civic duty.  Blame it on
my youthful addiction to Mad Magazines.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  If *I* had 10+ million bucks and felt like donating
  some of it to a cause that I believe in, I think 
  I'd manage to find a way to do so without having
  to wear flowing white robes and a Burger King crown.
 
 But then you have established, it appears, that you approach spiritual
 choices with a sharp pencil, asking whats in it or me?! Perhaps some
 of the rajas long ago figured out that the me is insubstantial and
 hollow/empty. 
  
  The fact that they didn't is what makes them 
  laughable.
 
 Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting
 others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother
 taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of
 Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the
 thought to laugh at others.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  If *I* had 10+ million bucks and felt like donating
  some of it to a cause that I believe in, I think 
  I'd manage to find a way to do so without having
  to wear flowing white robes and a Burger King crown.
 
 But then you have established, it appears, that you approach 
 spiritual choices with a sharp pencil, asking whats in it 
 or me?! Perhaps some of the rajas long ago figured out that 
 the me is insubstantial and hollow/empty. 

I honestly think you've got the equation backwards 
here. If I want to give away money, all I'm looking
for is to be able to do so while continuing to live
my life the way I want to. I'm *not* trying to get
anything for myself; I am, in fact, trying to give
something away, and then *walk away*. (In fact, when
I *have* given away money in the past, I've done so
anonymously, *so that* I didn't have to get involved
in any of the egogames that surround charitable
donations to spiritual groups.)

Compare and contrast to the Rajas, who (to their
credit) gave some money to a cause they believe in.
HOWEVER, they *didn't* give the money anonymously
or even quietly. They could have. But they didn't.
What they did instead was to donate the money in
such a way as to buy the right to wear flowing white 
robes and a crown and prance around at TMO functions
as if they were important. 

It seems to me that *they* are the ones you have a 
problem with, not me.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act.
 
 Just as an experiment, replace the word 'guru' in the 
 above sentence with other words, and see how you feel
 about the guys in question:
 
 I see guys acting just as their Daddy has requested that they act.
 
 I see guys acting just as their Mommy has requested that they act.
 
 I see guys acting just as their gpvernment has requested that they act.
 
 I see guys acting just as their priest has requested that they act.
 
 I see guys acting just as their family has requested that they act.
 
 ...etc.
 
 If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys,
 who has so little going for him that he just does what
 he is told without question, good for you. Some of us
 prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do...


Where did *I* say I was doing as my guru requested? I was merely pointing out 
that this 
was a scripted scene contrived by MMY.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects*
 these people?
 

dunno.

 If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have 
 actually had some experience being around him and 
 watching how he treats people would disagree with
 you. 

So MMY doesn't respect anyone around him at all?

 
 I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers
 them fools, too.


Nyah. He's well aware that there are myriad reasons to be doing as he requests.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread new . morning
Well, if its due to a Mad Magazine influence, you get a total pass. My
whole family loved it. It was a regular Christmas stocking stuffer. (A
bountiful gift from our Lord, :))

The daughter of the publisher or editor (Gaines? comes to mind) was a
TM teacher. I think she said he did TM too. It was great talking to
her once about her dad. 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I consider making fun of the Rajas to be my civic duty.  Blame it on
 my youthful addiction to Mad Magazines.

Turq:  
   The fact that they didn't is what makes them 
   laughable.

new.morning: 
  Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting
  others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother
  taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of
  Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the
  thought to laugh at others.
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 Very possibly. I did pay 5000 bucks for something
 worth 5 bucks, which definitely makes me a fool.
 But I learned from that experience, and stopped
 short of paying 1 million bucks for something
 worth a thousand...if it's worth that much...



It's an odd think the sidhis (and TM) are under-priced at the current rate.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 If *I* had 10+ million bucks and felt like donating
 some of it to a cause that I believe in, I think 
 I'd manage to find a way to do so without having
 to wear flowing white robes and a Burger King crown.
 
 The fact that they didn't is what makes them 
 laughable.


The rajas are the ones who are willing to give $1 million in exchange for the 
privilege of 
helping run the TMO.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
Nancy Berg, the daughter of the guy who wrote the Lighter Side of...
was in my class at MIU.  David Berg, nice guy I joined them for lunch
on a parent's day and it was like meetinga rock star of my youth.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, if its due to a Mad Magazine influence, you get a total pass. My
 whole family loved it. It was a regular Christmas stocking stuffer. (A
 bountiful gift from our Lord, :))
 
 The daughter of the publisher or editor (Gaines? comes to mind) was a
 TM teacher. I think she said he did TM too. It was great talking to
 her once about her dad. 
 
 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  I consider making fun of the Rajas to be my civic duty.  Blame it on
  my youthful addiction to Mad Magazines.
 
 Turq:  
The fact that they didn't is what makes them 
laughable.
 
 new.morning: 
   Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting
   others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother
   taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of
   Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the
   thought to laugh at others.
  
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nancy Berg, the daughter of the guy who wrote the Lighter Side of...
 was in my class at MIU.  David Berg, nice guy I joined them for lunch
 on a parent's day and it was like meeting a rock star of my youth.
 

Right. I think thats the one. 

He wrote more than Lighter Side didn't he? 

Did you meet Jack Kramer -- famed tennis player of the late 40's to
early 60's.  I grew up playing tennis with with a wilson Jack Kramer
raquet, as did the majority of my peers. Ken? Kramer, his son, was at
MIU in SB, and I blieve FF too. I think jack attended a parents day or
 graduation.




  Turq:  
 The fact that they didn't is what makes them 
 laughable.
  
  new.morning: 
Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting
others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother
taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of
Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the
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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
The whole counter culture owes a big debt to Mad.  I forget what
else David Berg wrote in Mad, it has been a while.  I remember
discussing with him the age that kids turn off on the magazine.  I
think its formulaic humor just stops working at a certain age.  The
magazine was trying to figure out how to raise the age.  To view
adults as hypocritical just hits the spot for a ten year old.

I don't remember the tennis guy. but I also played with a Kramer
racquet.  That is an interesting connection.  You should include that
little bit of tennis history in your next stalker chat with Maria! 
Unless I get to IM her with it first!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Nancy Berg, the daughter of the guy who wrote the Lighter Side of...
  was in my class at MIU.  David Berg, nice guy I joined them for lunch
  on a parent's day and it was like meeting a rock star of my youth.
  
 
 Right. I think thats the one. 
 
 He wrote more than Lighter Side didn't he? 
 
 Did you meet Jack Kramer -- famed tennis player of the late 40's to
 early 60's.  I grew up playing tennis with with a wilson Jack Kramer
 raquet, as did the majority of my peers. Ken? Kramer, his son, was at
 MIU in SB, and I blieve FF too. I think jack attended a parents day or
  graduation.
 
 
 
 
   Turq:  
  The fact that they didn't is what makes them 
  laughable.
   
   new.morning: 
 Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always
uplifting
 others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your
mother
 taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of
 Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the
 thought to laugh at others.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
ho (to their
 credit) gave some money to a cause they believe in.
 HOWEVER, they *didn't* give the money anonymously
 or even quietly. They could have. But they didn't.
 What they did instead was to donate the money in
 such a way as to buy the right to wear flowing white 
 robes and a crown and prance around at TMO functions
 as if they were important. 
 
 It seems to me that *they* are the ones you have a 
 problem with, not me.


They decided they wanted to be part of the decision-making process. The only 
way to do that 
is to be a long-term,  full-time TM flunky like Bevan or John, or to donate $1 
million and 
wear a crown.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/3/06 12:06 PM, geezerfreak at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Any one else watch (or try to watch) yesterday's Victory Day
  celebrations from Vlodrop?
  We've all seen the Burger king crowns. But what was that they were
  putting on top of the women's (sorry! Ladies) heads? Diamond tiaras?
  Bagpipes, white horse drawn carriages, King Tony sitting there looking
  stupefied, the unbelievably thick sense of self importance and ego
  inflation.
  
 Is it archived? Link? Still shots?

I think it's still there. Go to: www.mou.org
Let's see how much of this you can stomach!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
 
  on 10/3/06 12:06 PM, geezerfreak at geezerfreak@ wrote:
  
   Any one else watch (or try to watch) yesterday's Victory Day
   celebrations from Vlodrop?
   We've all seen the Burger king crowns. But what was that they 
were
   putting on top of the women's (sorry! Ladies) heads? Diamond 
tiaras?
   Bagpipes, white horse drawn carriages, King Tony sitting there 
looking
   stupefied, the unbelievably thick sense of self importance and 
ego
   inflation.
   
  Is it archived? Link? Still shots?
 
 I think it's still there. Go to: www.mou.org
 Let's see how much of this you can stomach!

I just checked-- Bevan M. is speaking but the audio isn't coming 
through-- oddly appropriate...

That whole thing is incomprehensible- how do these people spend all 
of that time rounding and in a powerful spiritual atmosphere, and 
maintain this rediculous notion of faux enlightenment? Its just so 
completely weird!!! What thick hides they must have...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak 
 geezerfreak@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
  
   on 10/3/06 12:06 PM, geezerfreak at geezerfreak@ wrote:
   
Any one else watch (or try to watch) yesterday's Victory Day
celebrations from Vlodrop?
We've all seen the Burger king crowns. But what was that they 
 were
putting on top of the women's (sorry! Ladies) heads? Diamond 
 tiaras?
Bagpipes, white horse drawn carriages, King Tony sitting there 
 looking
stupefied, the unbelievably thick sense of self importance and 
 ego
inflation.

   Is it archived? Link? Still shots?
  
  I think it's still there. Go to: www.mou.org
  Let's see how much of this you can stomach!
 
 I just checked-- Bevan M. is speaking but the audio isn't coming 
 through-- oddly appropriate...
 
 That whole thing is incomprehensible- how do these people spend all 
 of that time rounding and in a powerful spiritual atmosphere, and 
 maintain this rediculous notion of faux enlightenment? Its just so 
 completely weird!!! What thick hides they must have...


How do you know its faux enlightenment?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak 
  geezerfreak@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ 
wrote:
   
on 10/3/06 12:06 PM, geezerfreak at geezerfreak@ wrote:

 Any one else watch (or try to watch) yesterday's Victory 
Day
 celebrations from Vlodrop?
 We've all seen the Burger king crowns. But what was that 
they 
  were
 putting on top of the women's (sorry! Ladies) heads? 
Diamond 
  tiaras?
 Bagpipes, white horse drawn carriages, King Tony sitting 
there 
  looking
 stupefied, the unbelievably thick sense of self importance 
and 
  ego
 inflation.
 
Is it archived? Link? Still shots?
   
   I think it's still there. Go to: www.mou.org
   Let's see how much of this you can stomach!
  
  I just checked-- Bevan M. is speaking but the audio isn't coming 
  through-- oddly appropriate...
  
  That whole thing is incomprehensible- how do these people spend 
all 
  of that time rounding and in a powerful spiritual atmosphere, 
and 
  maintain this rediculous notion of faux enlightenment? Its just 
so 
  completely weird!!! What thick hides they must have...
 
 
 How do you know its faux enlightenment?

Because they would either leave or exhibit normal behavior if it 
weren't.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak 
   geezerfreak@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ 
 wrote:

 on 10/3/06 12:06 PM, geezerfreak at geezerfreak@ wrote:
 
  Any one else watch (or try to watch) yesterday's Victory 
 Day
  celebrations from Vlodrop?
  We've all seen the Burger king crowns. But what was that 
 they 
   were
  putting on top of the women's (sorry! Ladies) heads? 
 Diamond 
   tiaras?
  Bagpipes, white horse drawn carriages, King Tony sitting 
 there 
   looking
  stupefied, the unbelievably thick sense of self importance 
 and 
   ego
  inflation.
  
 Is it archived? Link? Still shots?

I think it's still there. Go to: www.mou.org
Let's see how much of this you can stomach!
   
   I just checked-- Bevan M. is speaking but the audio isn't coming 
   through-- oddly appropriate...
   
   That whole thing is incomprehensible- how do these people spend 
 all 
   of that time rounding and in a powerful spiritual atmosphere, 
 and 
   maintain this rediculous notion of faux enlightenment? Its just 
 so 
   completely weird!!! What thick hides they must have...
  
  
  How do you know its faux enlightenment?
 
 Because they would either leave or exhibit normal behavior if it 
 weren't.


Ah

OK. Snicker.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
 How do you know its faux enlightenment?

Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not
acting like a dick?

(I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar
playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses}


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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
 
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  geezerfreak@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
   
on 10/3/06 12:06 PM, geezerfreak at geezerfreak@ wrote:

 Any one else watch (or try to watch) yesterday's Victory Day
 celebrations from Vlodrop?
 We've all seen the Burger king crowns. But what was that they 
  were
 putting on top of the women's (sorry! Ladies) heads? Diamond 
  tiaras?
 Bagpipes, white horse drawn carriages, King Tony sitting there 
  looking
 stupefied, the unbelievably thick sense of self importance and 
  ego
 inflation.
 
Is it archived? Link? Still shots?
   
   I think it's still there. Go to: www.mou.org
   Let's see how much of this you can stomach!
  
  I just checked-- Bevan M. is speaking but the audio isn't coming 
  through-- oddly appropriate...
  
  That whole thing is incomprehensible- how do these people spend all 
  of that time rounding and in a powerful spiritual atmosphere, and 
  maintain this rediculous notion of faux enlightenment? Its just so 
  completely weird!!! What thick hides they must have...
 
 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  How do you know its faux enlightenment?
 
 Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
 enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not
 acting like a dick?
 
 (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar
 playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses}

Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act.

What's pompous about that?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think you know what I mean.  I don't believe that MMY gave them that
level of specific instruction on how to act.  All the phony
phrases...you know man.

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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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   How do you know its faux enlightenment?
  
  Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
  enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not
  acting like a dick?
  
  (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar
  playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses}
 
 Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act.
 
 What's pompous about that?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I think you know what I mean.  I don't believe that MMY gave them that
 level of specific instruction on how to act.  All the phony
 phrases...you know man.
 

I think the whole thing is mapped out by MMY. Scripted, almost to every word. 
Certainly 
every sanskrit phrase.

For some, it's a test of humilty. For others it's ego gratification --even the 
same phrases 
and costumes are seen as tests by some and as rewards by others, I suspect. 
Either way, it 
is a sample of the hoops you must jump through to be involved with the TMO at 
the 
highest level.

Ain't never going to see Deepak do that stuff. He wants his adulation from the 
masses, not 
the TMO.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
How do you know its faux enlightenment?
   
   Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
   enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not
   acting like a dick?
   
   (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar
   playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses}
  
  Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act.
  
  What's pompous about that?
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin 
jflanegi@ 
  wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak 
geezerfreak@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
groups@ 
  wrote:
 
  on 10/3/06 12:06 PM, geezerfreak at geezerfreak@ wrote:
  
   Any one else watch (or try to watch) 
yesterday's Victory 
  Day
   celebrations from Vlodrop?
   We've all seen the Burger king crowns. But what was 
that 
  they 
were
   putting on top of the women's (sorry! Ladies) heads? 
  Diamond 
tiaras?
   Bagpipes, white horse drawn carriages, King Tony 
sitting 
  there 
looking
   stupefied, the unbelievably thick sense of self 
importance 
  and 
ego
   inflation.
   
  Is it archived? Link? Still shots?
 
 I think it's still there. Go to: www.mou.org
 Let's see how much of this you can stomach!

I just checked-- Bevan M. is speaking but the audio isn't 
coming 
through-- oddly appropriate...

That whole thing is incomprehensible- how do these people 
spend 
  all 
of that time rounding and in a powerful spiritual 
atmosphere, 
  and 
maintain this rediculous notion of faux enlightenment? Its 
just 
  so 
completely weird!!! What thick hides they must have...
   
   
   How do you know its faux enlightenment?
  
  Because they would either leave or exhibit normal behavior if it 
  weren't.
 
 
 Ah
 
 OK. Snicker.

Should be Milky Way, but for those dudes and dudettes its 
Butterfinger all the way...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
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  How do you know its faux enlightenment?
 
 Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
 enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not
 acting like a dick?
 
Ha-Ha-Ha!! definitely Off-The-Programme Curtis! and yeah, if there was 
an enlightenment, no acting like a dick! 

The vibe that comes through from these guys and dolls is that they are 
so boring! Talk about a near total lack of 'creative 
intelligence'! Constantly building castles in the air-- I'd sentence 
them all to a 20 mile hike and a dozen cheeseburgers, with onions.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
   How do you know its faux enlightenment?
  
  Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
  enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not
  acting like a dick?
  
  (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar
  playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses}
 
 Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act.
 
 What's pompous about that?

Its not pompous, its stupid.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread Peter


--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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   How do you know its faux enlightenment?
  
  Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there
 was an
  enlightenment, don't you think that it would at
 least include not
  acting like a dick?
  
 Ha-Ha-Ha!! definitely Off-The-Programme Curtis! and
 yeah, if there was 
 an enlightenment, no acting like a dick! 
 
 The vibe that comes through from these guys and
 dolls is that they are 
 so boring! Talk about a near total lack of
 'creative 
 intelligence'! Constantly building castles in the
 air-- I'd sentence 
 them all to a 20 mile hike and a dozen
 cheeseburgers, with onions.

And a lap dance for all the men.





 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread Peter
Hey Curtis, I don't know about your dick, but my dick
does not act like King Tony in the slightest.

--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  How do you know its faux enlightenment?
 
 Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there
 was an
 enlightenment, don't you think that it would at
 least include not
 acting like a dick?
 
 (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing
 to the guitar
 playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous
 asses}
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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   geezerfreak@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
 Archer groups@ wrote:

 on 10/3/06 12:06 PM, geezerfreak at
 geezerfreak@ wrote:
 
  Any one else watch (or try to watch)
 yesterday's Victory Day
  celebrations from Vlodrop?
  We've all seen the Burger king crowns. But
 what was that they 
   were
  putting on top of the women's (sorry!
 Ladies) heads? Diamond 
   tiaras?
  Bagpipes, white horse drawn carriages,
 King Tony sitting there 
   looking
  stupefied, the unbelievably thick sense of
 self importance and 
   ego
  inflation.
  
 Is it archived? Link? Still shots?

I think it's still there. Go to: www.mou.org
Let's see how much of this you can stomach!
   
   I just checked-- Bevan M. is speaking but the
 audio isn't coming 
   through-- oddly appropriate...
   
   That whole thing is incomprehensible- how do
 these people spend all 
   of that time rounding and in a powerful
 spiritual atmosphere, and 
   maintain this rediculous notion of faux
 enlightenment? Its just so 
   completely weird!!! What thick hides they must
 have...
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread Peter


--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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How do you know its faux enlightenment?
   
   Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If
 there was an
   enlightenment, don't you think that it would at
 least include not
   acting like a dick?
   
   (I know the movement line on this but I am
 appealing to the guitar
   playing Spraig who knows these guys are just
 pompous asses}
  
  Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has
 requested that they act.
  
  What's pompous about that?
 
 Its not pompous, its stupid.

Amen to that. Just massive,massive mood-making.


 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
As long as the supreme intelligence gets mentioned, I am happy!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Curtis, I don't know about your dick, but my dick
 does not act like King Tony in the slightest.
 
 --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   How do you know its faux enlightenment?
  
  Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there
  was an
  enlightenment, don't you think that it would at
  least include not
  acting like a dick?
  
  (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing
  to the guitar
  playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous
  asses}
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig
  sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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geezerfreak@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
  Archer groups@ wrote:
 
  on 10/3/06 12:06 PM, geezerfreak at
  geezerfreak@ wrote:
  
   Any one else watch (or try to watch)
  yesterday's Victory Day
   celebrations from Vlodrop?
   We've all seen the Burger king crowns. But
  what was that they 
were
   putting on top of the women's (sorry!
  Ladies) heads? Diamond 
tiaras?
   Bagpipes, white horse drawn carriages,
  King Tony sitting there 
looking
   stupefied, the unbelievably thick sense of
  self importance and 
ego
   inflation.
   
  Is it archived? Link? Still shots?
 
 I think it's still there. Go to: www.mou.org
 Let's see how much of this you can stomach!

I just checked-- Bevan M. is speaking but the
  audio isn't coming 
through-- oddly appropriate...

That whole thing is incomprehensible- how do
  these people spend all 
of that time rounding and in a powerful
  spiritual atmosphere, and 
maintain this rediculous notion of faux
  enlightenment? Its just so 
completely weird!!! What thick hides they must
  have...
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
You know Jim it is so funny that I can relate to you sooo much more
then these dudes with the crowns.  It is funny cuz I don't have the
internal experiences you have, but I can relate to you as my brother
under the skin.  I am far removed from the language of enlightenment
but I will say that I would love to share a meal with you sometime.  I
cannont say the same for the dudes with the crowns.  I don't want
anything to do with their reality, both internal and external. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
   How do you know its faux enlightenment?
  
  Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
  enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not
  acting like a dick?
  
 Ha-Ha-Ha!! definitely Off-The-Programme Curtis! and yeah, if there was 
 an enlightenment, no acting like a dick! 
 
 The vibe that comes through from these guys and dolls is that they are 
 so boring! Talk about a near total lack of 'creative 
 intelligence'! Constantly building castles in the air-- I'd sentence 
 them all to a 20 mile hike and a dozen cheeseburgers, with onions.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
For some, it's a test of humilty. For others it's ego gratification
--even the
same phrases
and costumes are seen as tests by some and as rewards by others, I
suspect.
Either way, it
is a sample of the hoops you must jump through to be involved with the
TMO at
the
highest level.

I agree. We all choose our lives.  But as an old hippie I will always
throw pies at the pretentious.  I'll bet  you understand.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  I think you know what I mean.  I don't believe that MMY gave them that
  level of specific instruction on how to act.  All the phony
  phrases...you know man.
  
 
 I think the whole thing is mapped out by MMY. Scripted, almost to
every word. Certainly 
 every sanskrit phrase.
 
 For some, it's a test of humilty. For others it's ego gratification
--even the same phrases 
 and costumes are seen as tests by some and as rewards by others, I
suspect. Either way, it 
 is a sample of the hoops you must jump through to be involved with
the TMO at the 
 highest level.
 
 Ain't never going to see Deepak do that stuff. He wants his
adulation from the masses, not 
 the TMO.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
 How do you know its faux enlightenment?

Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not
acting like a dick?

(I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar
playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses}
   
   Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they
act.
   
   What's pompous about that?
  
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
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 You know Jim it is so funny that I can relate to you sooo much more
 then these dudes with the crowns.  It is funny cuz I don't have the
 internal experiences you have, but I can relate to you as my 
brother
 under the skin.  I am far removed from the language of 
enlightenment
 but I will say that I would love to share a meal with you 
sometime.  I
 cannont say the same for the dudes with the crowns.  I don't want
 anything to do with their reality, both internal and external. 

Hi Curtis! If you met me any other time than here, you'd never know 
about my 'secret' (ha-ha)! I lead a really normal life as a middle 
class guy with a family here in California. I don't align myself 
with any spiritual groups including TMers except for the writing I 
do on this forum.  

One place you and I probably connect pretty well is through the 
(bear with me here) 'trancendental meditation' of our respective 
arts; yours musical, mine visual. Just as there is an immediacy 
about art that changes by the second depending on choices the artist 
makes on the way he expresses himself in the moment, and the 
intepretation he makes in staying true to his craft (all elements of 
transcending), so is there the deep thought and comprehension of the 
artist's vision that he works to express (elements of meditation). 
Anyway, keeping it fresh and keeping it real is what that is all 
about, and that is every bit as much a transcendental meditation as, 
well, TM...

A meal is a great idea! Please let me know of any travels to the Bay 
Area and I'll do the same with you if I get near DC. Oh, and you can 
pick the wine...as long as its from California!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread sparaig
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 --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig
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   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
 How do you know its faux enlightenment?

Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If
  there was an
enlightenment, don't you think that it would at
  least include not
acting like a dick?

(I know the movement line on this but I am
  appealing to the guitar
playing Spraig who knows these guys are just
  pompous asses}
   
   Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has
  requested that they act.
   
   What's pompous about that?
  
  Its not pompous, its stupid.
 
 Amen to that. Just massive,massive mood-making.

Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!

2006-10-03 Thread sparaig
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
How do you know its faux enlightenment?
   
   Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks.  If there was an
   enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not
   acting like a dick?
   
   (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar
   playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses}
  
  Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act.
  
  What's pompous about that?
 
 Its not pompous, its stupid.


Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act.







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