[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
I don't think this is a case of my not understanding what an analogy is.I do.I also don't think that Maharishi or anyone else in TMO was in any way consistent is making it clear that they were speaking in terms of analogy when saying things likeconsciousness IS the home of all the laws of nature.I think that you are saying that at a certain state of consciousness an intention can directly affect nature(the siddhis) and in this sense consciousness is the home of all the laws of nature.For me, how consciousness,mind,intention and objective reality are related to each other is still very poorly understood.My own experience would suggest that they are related but I don't know how and I would argue neither does anyone else at least in way that can be irrefutably demonstrated. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: I think the main problem with the TMO's use of unified field theory is ,as I think you pointed out, that there is no empirically supported unified field theory.In addition even if consciousness is somehow related to physical reality(something which the table obviously shows is far from being universally accepted) this does not justify notions such as consciousness is the home of all the laws of nature. In any case thanks for the discussion.Kevin In my experience I think it is a great analogy. Notice the operative word that Maharishi particularly used was 'equivalent'. Take a look at this Britannica discussion of 'analogy'. Seems you're getting lost in the head trying to argue absolutes. May be sit with it some more and you might see. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/22465/analogy -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: however these weird quantum effects have also been observed or recorded by machinery, which we presume is not conscious, at least not in any way like us, and we only find out what the machine recorded sometime after the fact, our consciousness having not been involved in the actual perception of the event, until long after. Actually(and I could be wrong!) I believe that the Bohr et al model (the copenhagen interpretation)would assert that all the possible recordings that the machine could have made are themselves in a superposition state prior to someone (i.e. a conscious observer) checking what the machine said no matter how long the duration of time that has passed since the recording.When a conscious observer does check the probability wave collapses and one possible outcome comes into existence.(most likely the one that is most probable).In this analysis(at least as I understand it) consciousness is considered to be in some sense separate from material reality and thus not part of the probability wave(which is why it collapses?).A recent proponent of this perspective is Robert Lanza in the book Biocentrism I believe that the reason many physicists do not like this model is that it undermines the notion of physical reality being objectively real ,independent of observation .Probably the most favored model is the many worlds hypothesis which preserves objective reality but does so by postulating that there maybe virtually an infinite number of universes. Fortunately I spend most of my time on very macroscopic scales and do not have to deal with QM in either a technical or conceptual manner. Here is the Wikipedia list of QM interpretations. See if it reproduces the table on this forum (probably won't work in text-only emails) [it is also interesting in this table that the Copenhagen interpretation has a collapsing wave function but the observer is stated as having no role, only the von Neumann interpretation has consciouness in an active role in the collapse of the wave function.] [When I pasted this chart into the forum software, two additional columns on the right showed that were not visible in the Wikipedia; perhaps they are being edited, as they seem incomplete.] InterpretationAuthor(s)Deterministic? /wiki/Determinism Wavefunction real?Unique history?Hidden variables /wiki/Hidden_variable_theory ?Collapsing wavefunctions? /wiki/Wavefunction_collapse Observer role?Local /wiki/Locality_principle ?Counterfactual definiteness /wiki/Counterfactual_definiteness ?Ensemble interpretation /wiki/Ensemble_Interpretation Max Born /wiki/Max_Born , 1926AgnosticNoYesAgnosticNoNoneCopenhagen interpretation /wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics Niels Bohr /wiki/Niels_Bohr , Werner Heisenberg /wiki/Werner_Heisenberg , 1927NoNo1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. In meditation, consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. Epistemological-ly, the spiritual practice of meditation unites the knowledge of Natural Law discovered by the objective approach of modern science with a direct experience of Natural Law provided by
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. In meditation, consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. Epistemological-ly, the spiritual practice of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. In meditation, consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. In meditation, consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. In meditation, consciousness is found identified with the Unified
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: since it would appear that consciousness is a subset, a property of material existence, Just a comment, that consciousness can be interpreted to be a subset, a property of material existence does not mean that it has in fact been scientifically established as being a function of a material structure(i.e. the brain). Also in QM there is a group of physicists( e.g N.Bohr) who have argued that the manifestation of physical reality(the collapse of the probability wave function) depends on the presence of a conscious observer. I do agree with your points re the invalidity of trying to connect the subjective experiences of meditation with the laws pf physics.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: since it would appear that consciousness is a subset, a property of material existence, Just a comment, that consciousness can be interpreted to be a subset, a property of material existence does not mean that it has in fact been scientifically established as being a function of a material structure(i.e. the brain). Also in QM there is a group of physicists( e.g N.Bohr) who have argued that the manifestation of physical reality(the collapse of the probability wave function) depends on the presence of a conscious observer. I do agree with your points re the invalidity of trying to connect the subjective experiences of meditation with the laws pf physics. Yes, I said 'interpreted', this is not an established fact as the arguments rage on. It may be that this will always remain paradoxical in that no interpretation will ever be found that is experientially, observably, experimentally, and logically sound. It is interesting how ingesting certain chemicals (food is chemicals by the way), conscious experience can be altered, or when observing others, how easy it is to alter the conscious behaviour of another or eliminate conscious behaviour by various means. There are many interpretations of quantum mechanics, another is that of Richard Feynman wherein a particle travels all possible allowed trajectories, so you never know, especially on the microscopic scales, exactly what the past or future is, and by observation you change the possible past histories. However these weird quantum effects have also been observed or recorded by machinery, which we presume is not conscious, at least not in any way like us, and we only find out what the machine recorded sometime after the fact, our consciousness having not been involved in the actual perception of the event, until long after. During World War II, when the United States was attempting to develop the atomic bomb, Bohr had been invited to give some advice, and the scientists were somewhat in awe of him, except Feynman. Bohr called Feynman in to discuss and sort through his crazy ideas as he called them before he talked with the whole group because he knew Feynman was a good choice to ferret out bad ideas simply because Feynman was not afraid of him. The idea that in quantum mechanics, that consciousness is the mover and shaker of these processes, the interpretation favored by the TMO, does not seem to be the favored interpretation of most physicists. There is also the results of recent neuroscience experiments that seem to indicate consciousness is an after-the-fact process in becoming aware of events, that it actually does not do anything. But whatever the favored understanding of QM, we non-physicists probably don't really get what they are talking about. The results of neuroscience are probably a bit more understandable by the layman.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: however these weird quantum effects have also been observed or recorded by machinery, which we presume is not conscious, at least not in any way like us, and we only find out what the machine recorded sometime after the fact, our consciousness having not been involved in the actual perception of the event, until long after. Actually(and I could be wrong!) I believe that the Bohr et al model (the copenhagen interpretation)would assert that all the possible recordings that the machine could have made are themselves in a superposition state prior to someone (i.e. a conscious observer) checking what the machine said no matter how long the duration of time that has passed since the recording.When a conscious observer does check the probability wave collapses and one possible outcome comes into existence.(most likely the one that is most probable).In this analysis(at least as I understand it) consciousness is considered to be in some sense separate from material reality and thus not part of the probability wave(which is why it collapses?).A recent proponent of this perspective is Robert Lanza in the book Biocentrism I believe that the reason many physicists do not like this model is that it undermines the notion of physical reality being objectively real ,independent of observation .Probably the most favored model is the many worlds hypothesis which preserves objective reality but does so by postulating that there maybe virtually an infinite number of universes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: however these weird quantum effects have also been observed or recorded by machinery, which we presume is not conscious, at least not in any way like us, and we only find out what the machine recorded sometime after the fact, our consciousness having not been involved in the actual perception of the event, until long after. Actually(and I could be wrong!) I believe that the Bohr et al model (the copenhagen interpretation)would assert that all the possible recordings that the machine could have made are themselves in a superposition state prior to someone (i.e. a conscious observer) checking what the machine said no matter how long the duration of time that has passed since the recording.When a conscious observer does check the probability wave collapses and one possible outcome comes into existence.(most likely the one that is most probable).In this analysis(at least as I understand it) consciousness is considered to be in some sense separate from material reality and thus not part of the probability wave(which is why it collapses?).A recent proponent of this perspective is Robert Lanza in the book Biocentrism I believe that the reason many physicists do not like this model is that it undermines the notion of physical reality being objectively real ,independent of observation .Probably the most favored model is the many worlds hypothesis which preserves objective reality but does so by postulating that there maybe virtually an infinite number of universes. Fortunately I spend most of my time on very macroscopic scales and do not have to deal with QM in either a technical or conceptual manner. Here is the Wikipedia list of QM interpretations. See if it reproduces the table on this forum (probably won't work in text-only emails) [it is also interesting in this table that the Copenhagen interpretation has a collapsing wave function but the observer is stated as having no role, only the von Neumann interpretation has consciouness in an active role in the collapse of the wave function.] [When I pasted this chart into the forum software, two additional columns on the right showed that were not visible in the Wikipedia; perhaps they are being edited, as they seem incomplete.] InterpretationAuthor(s)Deterministic? /wiki/Determinism Wavefunction real?Unique history?Hidden variables /wiki/Hidden_variable_theory ?Collapsing wavefunctions? /wiki/Wavefunction_collapse Observer role?Local /wiki/Locality_principle ?Counterfactual definiteness /wiki/Counterfactual_definiteness ?Ensemble interpretation /wiki/Ensemble_Interpretation Max Born /wiki/Max_Born , 1926AgnosticNoYesAgnosticNoNoneCopenhagen interpretation /wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics Niels Bohr /wiki/Niels_Bohr , Werner Heisenberg /wiki/Werner_Heisenberg , 1927NoNo1 #endnote_note1 YesNoYes2 #endnote_note1 NoneNoNode Broglie-Bohm theory /wiki/De_Broglie-Bohm_theory Louis de Broglie /wiki/Louis_de_Broglie , 1927, David Bohm /wiki/David_Bohm , 1952YesYes3 #endnote_note3 Yes4 #endnote_note4 YesNoNoneNoYesvon Neumann interpretation /wiki/Interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics#von_Neumann.2FWigner_interpre\ tation:_consciousness_causes_the_collapse von Neumann /wiki/Von_Neumann , 1932, Wheeler /wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler , Wigner /wiki/Eugene_Wigner NoYesYesNoYesCausalNoNoQuantum logic /wiki/Quantum_logic Garrett Birkhoff /wiki/Garrett_Birkhoff , 1936AgnosticAgnosticYes5 #endnote_note5 NoNoInterpretational6 #endnote_note6 Many-worlds interpretation /wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation Hugh Everett /wiki/Hugh_Everett , 1957YesYesNoNoNoNoneYesNoTime-symmetric theoriesYakir Aharonov /wiki/Yakir_Aharonov , 1964YesYesYesYesNoNoStochastic interpretation /wiki/Stochastic_interpretation Edward Nelson /wiki/Edward_Nelson , 1966NoNoYesNoNoNoneNoNoMany-minds interpretation /wiki/Many-minds_interpretation H. Dieter Zeh /wiki/H._Dieter_Zeh , 1970YesYesNoNoNoInterpretational7 #endnote_note7 YesNoConsistent histories /wiki/Consistent_histories Robert B. Griffiths /wiki/Robert_B._Griffiths , 1984Agnostic8 #endnote_note8 Agnostic8 #endnote_note8 NoNoNoInterpretational6 #endnote_note6 YesNoObjective collapse theories /wiki/Objective_collapse_theory Ghirardi-Rimini-Weber /wiki/Ghirardi-Rimini-Weber_theory , 1986NoYesYesNoYesNoneNoNoTransactional interpretation /wiki/Transactional_interpretation John G. Cramer /wiki/John_G._Cramer , 1986NoYesYesNoYes9 #endnote_note9 NoneRelational interpretation /wiki/Relational_quantum_mechanics Carlo Rovelli /wiki/Carlo_Rovelli , 1994NoYesAgnostic10 #endnote_note10 NoYes11 #endnote_note11 Intrinsic12 #endnote_note12 So perhaps Feynman's comment to the effect that we really can't understand quantum mechanics rules the day. When I meditate, I never think about stuff like is on this chart, if I have thoughts that is. With regard to the TMO, I think it is always wise to check alternate
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
I think the main problem with the TMO's use of unified field theory is ,as I think you pointed out, that there is no empirically supported unified field theory.In addition even if consciousness is somehow related to physical reality(something which the table obviously shows is far from being universally accepted) this does not justify notions such as consciousness is the home of all the laws of nature. In any case thanks for the discussion.Kevin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: however these weird quantum effects have also been observed or recorded by machinery, which we presume is not conscious, at least not in any way like us, and we only find out what the machine recorded sometime after the fact, our consciousness having not been involved in the actual perception of the event, until long after. Actually(and I could be wrong!) I believe that the Bohr et al model (the copenhagen interpretation)would assert that all the possible recordings that the machine could have made are themselves in a superposition state prior to someone (i.e. a conscious observer) checking what the machine said no matter how long the duration of time that has passed since the recording.When a conscious observer does check the probability wave collapses and one possible outcome comes into existence.(most likely the one that is most probable).In this analysis(at least as I understand it) consciousness is considered to be in some sense separate from material reality and thus not part of the probability wave(which is why it collapses?).A recent proponent of this perspective is Robert Lanza in the book Biocentrism I believe that the reason many physicists do not like this model is that it undermines the notion of physical reality being objectively real ,independent of observation .Probably the most favored model is the many worlds hypothesis which preserves objective reality but does so by postulating that there maybe virtually an infinite number of universes. Fortunately I spend most of my time on very macroscopic scales and do not have to deal with QM in either a technical or conceptual manner. Here is the Wikipedia list of QM interpretations. See if it reproduces the table on this forum (probably won't work in text-only emails) [it is also interesting in this table that the Copenhagen interpretation has a collapsing wave function but the observer is stated as having no role, only the von Neumann interpretation has consciouness in an active role in the collapse of the wave function.] [When I pasted this chart into the forum software, two additional columns on the right showed that were not visible in the Wikipedia; perhaps they are being edited, as they seem incomplete.] InterpretationAuthor(s)Deterministic? /wiki/Determinism Wavefunction real?Unique history?Hidden variables /wiki/Hidden_variable_theory ?Collapsing wavefunctions? /wiki/Wavefunction_collapse Observer role?Local /wiki/Locality_principle ?Counterfactual definiteness /wiki/Counterfactual_definiteness ?Ensemble interpretation /wiki/Ensemble_Interpretation Max Born /wiki/Max_Born , 1926AgnosticNoYesAgnosticNoNoneCopenhagen interpretation /wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics Niels Bohr /wiki/Niels_Bohr , Werner Heisenberg /wiki/Werner_Heisenberg , 1927NoNo1 #endnote_note1 YesNoYes2 #endnote_note1 NoneNoNode Broglie-Bohm theory /wiki/De_Broglie-Bohm_theory Louis de Broglie /wiki/Louis_de_Broglie , 1927, David Bohm /wiki/David_Bohm , 1952YesYes3 #endnote_note3 Yes4 #endnote_note4 YesNoNoneNoYesvon Neumann interpretation /wiki/Interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics#von_Neumann.2FWigner_interpre\ tation:_consciousness_causes_the_collapse von Neumann /wiki/Von_Neumann , 1932, Wheeler /wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler , Wigner /wiki/Eugene_Wigner NoYesYesNoYesCausalNoNoQuantum logic /wiki/Quantum_logic Garrett Birkhoff /wiki/Garrett_Birkhoff , 1936AgnosticAgnosticYes5 #endnote_note5 NoNoInterpretational6 #endnote_note6 Many-worlds interpretation /wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation Hugh Everett /wiki/Hugh_Everett , 1957YesYesNoNoNoNoneYesNoTime-symmetric theoriesYakir Aharonov /wiki/Yakir_Aharonov , 1964YesYesYesYesNoNoStochastic interpretation /wiki/Stochastic_interpretation Edward Nelson /wiki/Edward_Nelson , 1966NoNoYesNoNoNoneNoNoMany-minds interpretation /wiki/Many-minds_interpretation H. Dieter Zeh /wiki/H._Dieter_Zeh , 1970YesYesNoNoNoInterpretational7 #endnote_note7 YesNoConsistent histories /wiki/Consistent_histories Robert B. Griffiths /wiki/Robert_B._Griffiths , 1984Agnostic8 #endnote_note8 Agnostic8 #endnote_note8 NoNoNoInterpretational6 #endnote_note6 YesNoObjective collapse theories /wiki/Objective_collapse_theory Ghirardi-Rimini-Weber /wiki/Ghirardi-Rimini-Weber_theory ,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@... wrote: I think the main problem with the TMO's use of unified field theory is ,as I think you pointed out, that there is no empirically supported unified field theory.In addition even if consciousness is somehow related to physical reality(something which the table obviously shows is far from being universally accepted) this does not justify notions such as consciousness is the home of all the laws of nature. In any case thanks for the discussion.Kevin In my experience I think it is a great analogy. Notice the operative word that Maharishi particularly used was 'equivalent'. Take a look at this Britannica discussion of 'analogy'. Seems you're getting lost in the head trying to argue absolutes. May be sit with it some more and you might see. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/22465/analogy -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: however these weird quantum effects have also been observed or recorded by machinery, which we presume is not conscious, at least not in any way like us, and we only find out what the machine recorded sometime after the fact, our consciousness having not been involved in the actual perception of the event, until long after. Actually(and I could be wrong!) I believe that the Bohr et al model (the copenhagen interpretation)would assert that all the possible recordings that the machine could have made are themselves in a superposition state prior to someone (i.e. a conscious observer) checking what the machine said no matter how long the duration of time that has passed since the recording.When a conscious observer does check the probability wave collapses and one possible outcome comes into existence.(most likely the one that is most probable).In this analysis(at least as I understand it) consciousness is considered to be in some sense separate from material reality and thus not part of the probability wave(which is why it collapses?).A recent proponent of this perspective is Robert Lanza in the book Biocentrism I believe that the reason many physicists do not like this model is that it undermines the notion of physical reality being objectively real ,independent of observation .Probably the most favored model is the many worlds hypothesis which preserves objective reality but does so by postulating that there maybe virtually an infinite number of universes. Fortunately I spend most of my time on very macroscopic scales and do not have to deal with QM in either a technical or conceptual manner. Here is the Wikipedia list of QM interpretations. See if it reproduces the table on this forum (probably won't work in text-only emails) [it is also interesting in this table that the Copenhagen interpretation has a collapsing wave function but the observer is stated as having no role, only the von Neumann interpretation has consciouness in an active role in the collapse of the wave function.] [When I pasted this chart into the forum software, two additional columns on the right showed that were not visible in the Wikipedia; perhaps they are being edited, as they seem incomplete.] InterpretationAuthor(s)Deterministic? /wiki/Determinism Wavefunction real?Unique history?Hidden variables /wiki/Hidden_variable_theory ?Collapsing wavefunctions? /wiki/Wavefunction_collapse Observer role?Local /wiki/Locality_principle ?Counterfactual definiteness /wiki/Counterfactual_definiteness ?Ensemble interpretation /wiki/Ensemble_Interpretation Max Born /wiki/Max_Born , 1926AgnosticNoYesAgnosticNoNoneCopenhagen interpretation /wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics Niels Bohr /wiki/Niels_Bohr , Werner Heisenberg /wiki/Werner_Heisenberg , 1927NoNo1 #endnote_note1 YesNoYes2 #endnote_note1 NoneNoNode Broglie-Bohm theory /wiki/De_Broglie-Bohm_theory Louis de Broglie /wiki/Louis_de_Broglie , 1927, David Bohm /wiki/David_Bohm , 1952YesYes3 #endnote_note3 Yes4 #endnote_note4 YesNoNoneNoYesvon Neumann interpretation /wiki/Interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics#von_Neumann.2FWigner_interpre\ tation:_consciousness_causes_the_collapse von Neumann /wiki/Von_Neumann , 1932, Wheeler /wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler , Wigner /wiki/Eugene_Wigner NoYesYesNoYesCausalNoNoQuantum logic /wiki/Quantum_logic Garrett Birkhoff /wiki/Garrett_Birkhoff , 1936AgnosticAgnosticYes5 #endnote_note5 NoNoInterpretational6 #endnote_note6 Many-worlds interpretation /wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation Hugh Everett /wiki/Hugh_Everett , 1957YesYesNoNoNoNoneYesNoTime-symmetric theoriesYakir Aharonov /wiki/Yakir_Aharonov , 1964YesYesYesYesNoNoStochastic interpretation /wiki/Stochastic_interpretation Edward
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote (or copied) : ...These Unified Field[s?] are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field... It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. As no unified field theory of all the currently known forces of nature has successfully been constructed, let alone verified, how can we know that the properties of this unfinished business are the attributes of consciousness? Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Well, if one is really sloppy with logic and loose with facts one could come to this conclusion. For one thing, while we assume everyone (humans at any rate) is conscious, based on an inference from our individual experience, how do we conclude on the basis of our experience that consciousness (without reference to physics) is a field? Maybe it is like a projector lamp in a movie projector, which is definitely not a field, but like an ordinary light bulb, that has a definite location in space, and is not infinite in extent. In other words, how can we differentiate between the idea that consciousness is a non-local field of infinite or unbounded extent and the idea consciousness as an emergent property of matter (which seems to be the way most neuroscientists seem to view the subject); that consciousness emerges from non-conscious processes of the laws of nature, and are localized in the brain? ...This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. This language is interesting, but say one is in a dark room and turns on the light, or turns it on slowly with a rheostat, allowing everything in the room to gradually seem to emerge from darkness; but in this case we cannot say it really emerges from the light, for the light just made what was already there in the room visible to the eye. What is the character of experience, if such an experience exists or can be described, that distinguishes 'emergence' from simply noticing that which was already there? If 'what is already there' is just becoming noticed, rather than emerging, how can we say that the unified field, if it exists, is the same as consciousness, since it would appear that consciousness is a subset, a property of material existence, and if there is a unified field underlying that, then consciousness would be a subset function of that field, not the totality of the field. Epistemological-ly, the spiritual practice of meditation unites the knowledge of Natural Law discovered by the objective approach of modern science with a direct experience of Natural Law provided by the subjective approach of meditation practices. It integrates the knowledge of the Unified Field brought to light by Quantum Physics with the subjective experience of the Unified Field gained through meditation. This integrated approach to knowledge enlivens the Unified Field in the awareness of the individual, My observation is that meditators, other than dedicated physicists in a rather restricted field, do not seem to be able to understand unified physics any better as a result of meditation. I have been meditating for a reasonably long time and I was just looking at the Wikipedia article on Lagrangian. I could not understand most of it at all. Different systems can have a Lagrangian, which is described as 'a function that summarizes the dynamics of the system'. No unified field Lagrangian was discussed in this article, but the Dirac Lagrangian, the quantum electrodynamic Lagrangian, and the quantum chromodynamic Lagrangian were mentioned. How does one equate these equations with consciousness in a meaningful way rather than by verbal slight of mind saying they must somehow be the same? Quantum Chromodynamic Lagrangian: [Lagrangian of the quantum chromodynamic field [from Wikipedia.org]] So far, the quantum electrodynamic field and the quantum chromodynamic field are the only seemingly
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
This was such an excellent post, I wish I could have written it. But I couldn't,and you did. High five and thanks for a great read! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote (or copied) : ...These Unified Field[s?] are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field... It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. As no unified field theory of all the currently known forces of nature has successfully been constructed, let alone verified, how can we know that the properties of this unfinished business are the attributes of consciousness? Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Well, if one is really sloppy with logic and loose with facts one could come to this conclusion. For one thing, while we assume everyone (humans at any rate) is conscious, based on an inference from our individual experience, how do we conclude on the basis of our experience that consciousness (without reference to physics) is a field? Maybe it is like a projector lamp in a movie projector, which is definitely not a field, but like an ordinary light bulb, that has a definite location in space, and is not infinite in extent. In other words, how can we differentiate between the idea that consciousness is a non-local field of infinite or unbounded extent and the idea consciousness as an emergent property of matter (which seems to be the way most neuroscientists seem to view the subject); that consciousness emerges from non-conscious processes of the laws of nature, and are localized in the brain? ...This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. This language is interesting, but say one is in a dark room and turns on the light, or turns it on slowly with a rheostat, allowing everything in the room to gradually seem to emerge from darkness; but in this case we cannot say it really emerges from the light, for the light just made what was already there in the room visible to the eye. What is the character of experience, if such an experience exists or can be described, that distinguishes 'emergence' from simply noticing that which was already there? If 'what is already there' is just becoming noticed, rather than emerging, how can we say that the unified field, if it exists, is the same as consciousness, since it would appear that consciousness is a subset, a property of material existence, and if there is a unified field underlying that, then consciousness would be a subset function of that field, not the totality of the field. Epistemological-ly, the spiritual practice of meditation unites the knowledge of Natural Law discovered by the objective approach of modern science with a direct experience of Natural Law provided by the subjective approach of meditation practices. It integrates the knowledge of the Unified Field brought to light by Quantum Physics with the subjective experience of the Unified Field gained through meditation. This integrated approach to knowledge enlivens the Unified Field in the awareness of the individual, My observation is that meditators, other than dedicated physicists in a rather restricted field, do not seem to be able to understand unified physics any better as a result of meditation. I have been meditating for a reasonably long time and I was just looking at the Wikipedia article on Lagrangian. I could not understand most of it at all. Different systems can have a Lagrangian, which is described as 'a function that summarizes the dynamics of the system'. No unified field Lagrangian was discussed in this article, but the Dirac Lagrangian, the quantum electrodynamic Lagrangian, and the quantum chromodynamic Lagrangian were mentioned. How does one equate these equations with
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. In meditation, consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. Epistemological-ly, the spiritual practice of meditation unites the knowledge of Natural Law discovered by the objective approach of modern science with a direct experience of Natural Law provided by the subjective approach of meditation practices. It integrates the knowledge of the Unified Field brought to light by Quantum Physics with the subjective experience of the Unified Field gained through meditation. This integrated approach to knowledge enlivens the Unified Field in the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: This was such an excellent post, I wish I could have written it. But I couldn't,and you did. High five and thanks for a great read! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: As no unified field theory of all the currently known forces of nature has successfully been constructed, let alone verified, how can we know that the properties of this unfinished business are the attributes of consciousness? Just reminds me of an updated version of fuzzy wuzzy was a bear
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. In meditation, consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. Epistemological-ly, the spiritual practice of meditation unites the knowledge of Natural Law discovered by the objective approach of modern science with a direct experience of Natural Law provided by the subjective approach of meditation practices. It integrates the knowledge of the Unified Field brought to light by Quantum Physics with the subjective
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. I would like to hear more about your understanding of the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula. All this physicy sounding nonsense sounds like a character in a Tyler Perry movie trying to force fit the word bodacious into a sentence. Baby I've got a bodacious need to get behind your bodacious behind and have you back that thing up to my bodaciousness. Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. In meditation, consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields. These developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. These Unified Field are the fountainhead of Natural Law, since all the Laws of Nature expressed in the effective field theories governing Physics at larger distance scales are already contained in seed form in the original super-symmetric Lagrangian of the Unified Field. Since it is the fountainhead of Natural Law, this Unified Field represents the most concentrated field of intelligence in Nature. Fundamental properties of the Unified Field evidently include the property of self-referral or self-interaction, which is reflected in the Lagrangian or fundamental mathematical formula quantifying the Laws of Nature at the level of the Unified Field. It is striking how the properties of the Unified Field are precisely the attributes of consciousness. Consciousness alone is fully self-referral, since only consciousness has the ability to know itself in a completely self-sufficient manner. Moreover, consciousness in its self-referral state, Transcendental Consciousness, is the source of all mental activity and therefore a field of pure intelligence and infinite creative dynamism. Since the fundamental properties of the Unified Field are identical to those of consciousness in its self-referral state, it is natural to conclude that the Unified Field of Natural Law and the field of pure consciousness are equivalent. Equivalent. This is easily verified through meditation, which opens human awareness to the direct experience of a transcendental consciousness, pure consciousness, where consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. In meditation, consciousness is found identified with the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature. During meditation all the subjective and objective qualities of creation are seen to emerge from the field of pure consciousness as modes of one's own self-referral intelligence. Epistemological-ly, the spiritual practice of meditation unites the knowledge of Natural Law discovered by the objective approach of modern science with a direct experience of Natural Law provided by the subjective approach of meditation practices. It integrates the knowledge of the Unified Field brought to light by Quantum Physics with the subjective experience of the Unified Field gained through meditation. This integrated approach to knowledge enlivens the Unified Field in the awareness of the individual,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Vedic Science
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature. This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm) where all the various force and matter fields are unified into one single Unified Field of Natural Law -- the holistic transcendental field underlying all manifest creation. Historically, the analysis of the microscopic structure of matter began with the idea that all substances are composed of tiny particles, like atoms and their subatomic constituents. With the development of Quantum Theory, however, physicists soon had to conclude that the classical particle picture is quite inadequate for the description of these constituents of matter, and realised that the different elementary particles have to be conceived as specific resonant excitations of fundamental quantum fields. Prior to the development of Unified Field Theories scientists had discovered a variety of separate quantum fields, such as the four force fields (of the electromagnetic, the weak, the strong, and the gravitational interactions) as well as the various matter fields. In the last few decades it was realised that with the progression towards finer distance scales an increasing unification of the Laws of Nature takes place so that previously separate quantum fields turn out to be merely different components of underlying unified quantum fields.
