[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-25 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 You can't take that guy serious, noone in his right mind read books by Paul 
Mason. He has a simple agenda; to make money.
 

 I think his agenda is to find and publish what the TM movement wouldn't dare 
or couldn't be bothered with. . Yes, he actually does research, it's a funny 
thing that the TMO won't allow his books in centres. You'd think they'd be 
interested.
 

 And it's done out of devotion not a love of money. Let's face it, if you're 
after a lucrative publishing contract, dead and obscure Indian saints probably 
aren't the way to go. Especially as he publishes it online as well as in print 
form.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote :

 Here are books rich in teachings of Guru Dev. 

 Mason, Paul. 108 Discourses of Guru Dev: The Life and Teachings of Swami 
Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-53). Vol 1. Penzance, 
Cornwall: Premanand, 2009. -- From a book review by Michael Laughrin,  
Michael@... mailto:Michael@...

108 Discourses of Guru Dev by Paul Mason is, in my opinion, the most important 
and BEST spiritual book written in the last 100 years. Swami Brahmananda 
Saraswati was affectionately known as Guru Dev.

Guru Dev was the Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, the northernmost of the 4 
seats of the Shankaracharyas established by Shankara between 1500 and 2000 
years ago. This northernmost seat was vacant for many years until Guru Dev, who 
had been leading the life of a solitary saint living in the forest and 
mountains, finally agreed to take the seat.

These little 'sermons' (none is longer than 4 pages) are exceedingly clear, 
uplifting, and to the point. This volume has the discourses in the original 
Hindi and also in English (thank God, as my Hindi is not what is used to be). 
Of all the modern spiritual books that I have read, this one cuts through the 
junk like a sword and reveals the diamond truth that is at the core of the 
Vedic teachings. Most of the important topics are mentioned, such as 
Enlightenment (moksha), meditation, karma, the caste system, possessions, 
obstacles on the Path, Maya, dharma, and many, many others.
 
 Mason, Paul. The Biography of Guru Dev: The Life and Teachings of Swami 
Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-53). Vol 2. Penzance, 
Cornwall: Premanand, 2009.
 Mason, Paul. Guru Dev as presented by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Life and 
Teachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath 
(1941-53). Vol 3. Penzance, Cornwall: Premanand, 2009.
 Mason, Paul. Guru Dev: Life and Teachings of Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda 
Saraswati. Compiled by Paul Mason. 2012. Online [◦Link] 
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm
 Shriver, LB Trusty. The Sweet Teachings of the Blessed Sankaracarya Swami 
Brahmananda Saraswati.. Tr. and contr. Cynthia Ann Humes. Raleigh, NC: 
Lulu.com, 2013. —— Professor Humes supplied the annotations.
 Tiwari, Rameswar, compiler, LB Trusty Shriver, ed, and Cynthia Ann Humes, ed. 
Rocks Are Melting: The Everyday Teachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati 
Fairfield, IA: Clear River Press, 2000. —— Scanned hard-copy (online) 
manuscript, with annotations. May be tried as a companion to Paul Mason's 108 
Discourses of Guru Dev.
 

In addition, as mentioned in my first post, dedicated folks try to collect, 
preserve and have still more Guru Dev discourses translated. Funds would be 
good. Spreading the news too. A Yahoo group (see first post) is open so one may 
see what happens.

For more information and sermons by the gurudev of the TM movement, there are 
Paul Mason's pages.

 

-- 
 T. Kinnes







[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-24 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
NNY didn't allow himself on the puja table when he was alive 

 And so, now that he is dead, you're going to go against his express wishes 
that he made clear while he was alive because???
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Maharishi originated TM. He was not allowing himself to be on the puja table 
while alive but he should be now. No-one else's teaching is at all needed . 
Good for you to be doing service to Brahmanada Saraswati but there is no 
greater teacher than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is our   Guru 
Dev now.   Maharaja is also our Guru Dev. Jaya Guru Deva.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-24 Thread Tormod Kinnes tkin...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Here are books rich in teachings of Guru Dev.

Mason, Paul. *108 Discourses of Guru Dev: The Life and Teachings of Swami
Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-53). Vol 1*.
Penzance, Cornwall: Premanand, 2009. -- From a book review by Michael
Laughrin,  mich...@jyotish.ws

*108 Discourses of Guru Dev* by Paul Mason is, in my opinion, the most
important and BEST spiritual book written in the last 100 years. Swami
Brahmananda Saraswati was affectionately known as Guru Dev.

Guru Dev was the Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, the northernmost of the 4
seats of the Shankaracharyas established by Shankara between 1500 and 2000
years ago. This northernmost seat was vacant for many years until Guru Dev,
who had been leading the life of a solitary saint living in the forest and
mountains, finally agreed to take the seat.

These little 'sermons' (none is longer than 4 pages) are exceedingly clear,
uplifting, and to the point. This volume has the discourses in the original
Hindi and also in English (thank God, as my Hindi is not what is used to
be). Of all the modern spiritual books that I have read, this one cuts
through the junk like a sword and reveals the diamond truth that is at the
core of the Vedic teachings. Most of the important topics are mentioned,
such as Enlightenment (moksha), meditation, karma, the caste system,
possessions, obstacles on the Path, Maya, dharma, and many, many others.

Mason, Paul. *The Biography of Guru Dev: The Life and Teachings of Swami
Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-53). Vol 2*.
Penzance, Cornwall: Premanand, 2009.

Mason, Paul. *Guru Dev as presented by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Life and
Teachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath
(1941-53). Vol 3*. Penzance, Cornwall: Premanand, 2009.

Mason, Paul. *Guru Dev: Life and Teachings of Shankaracharya Swami
Brahmananda Saraswati.* Compiled by Paul Mason. 2012. Online [◦Link]
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm

Shriver, LB Trusty. *The Sweet Teachings of the Blessed Sankaracarya Swami
Brahmananda Saraswati.*. Tr. and contr. Cynthia Ann Humes. Raleigh, NC:
Lulu.com, 2013. —— Professor Humes supplied the annotations.

Tiwari, Rameswar, compiler, LB Trusty Shriver, ed, and Cynthia Ann Humes,
ed. *Rocks Are Melting: The Everyday Teachings of Swami Brahmananda
Saraswati* Fairfield, IA: Clear River Press, 2000. —— Scanned hard-copy (
*online*) manuscript, with annotations. May be tried as a companion to Paul
Mason's *108 Discourses of Guru Dev*.


In addition, as mentioned in my first post, dedicated folks try to collect,
preserve and have still more Guru Dev discourses translated. Funds would be
good. Spreading the news too. A Yahoo group (see first post) is open so one
may see what happens.

For more information and sermons by the gurudev of the TM movement, there
are Paul Mason's pages.

http://paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm


-- 
T. Kinnes


[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-24 Thread nablusoss1008
You can't take that guy serious, noone in his right mind read books by Paul 
Mason. He has a simple agenda; to make money.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote :

 Here are books rich in teachings of Guru Dev. 

 Mason, Paul. 108 Discourses of Guru Dev: The Life and Teachings of Swami 
Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-53). Vol 1. Penzance, 
Cornwall: Premanand, 2009. -- From a book review by Michael Laughrin,  
Michael@... mailto:Michael@...

108 Discourses of Guru Dev by Paul Mason is, in my opinion, the most important 
and BEST spiritual book written in the last 100 years. Swami Brahmananda 
Saraswati was affectionately known as Guru Dev.

Guru Dev was the Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, the northernmost of the 4 
seats of the Shankaracharyas established by Shankara between 1500 and 2000 
years ago. This northernmost seat was vacant for many years until Guru Dev, who 
had been leading the life of a solitary saint living in the forest and 
mountains, finally agreed to take the seat.

These little 'sermons' (none is longer than 4 pages) are exceedingly clear, 
uplifting, and to the point. This volume has the discourses in the original 
Hindi and also in English (thank God, as my Hindi is not what is used to be). 
Of all the modern spiritual books that I have read, this one cuts through the 
junk like a sword and reveals the diamond truth that is at the core of the 
Vedic teachings. Most of the important topics are mentioned, such as 
Enlightenment (moksha), meditation, karma, the caste system, possessions, 
obstacles on the Path, Maya, dharma, and many, many others.
 
 Mason, Paul. The Biography of Guru Dev: The Life and Teachings of Swami 
Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-53). Vol 2. Penzance, 
Cornwall: Premanand, 2009.
 Mason, Paul. Guru Dev as presented by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Life and 
Teachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath 
(1941-53). Vol 3. Penzance, Cornwall: Premanand, 2009.
 Mason, Paul. Guru Dev: Life and Teachings of Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda 
Saraswati. Compiled by Paul Mason. 2012. Online [◦Link] 
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm
 Shriver, LB Trusty. The Sweet Teachings of the Blessed Sankaracarya Swami 
Brahmananda Saraswati.. Tr. and contr. Cynthia Ann Humes. Raleigh, NC: 
Lulu.com, 2013. —— Professor Humes supplied the annotations.
 Tiwari, Rameswar, compiler, LB Trusty Shriver, ed, and Cynthia Ann Humes, ed. 
Rocks Are Melting: The Everyday Teachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati 
Fairfield, IA: Clear River Press, 2000. —— Scanned hard-copy (online) 
manuscript, with annotations. May be tried as a companion to Paul Mason's 108 
Discourses of Guru Dev.
 

In addition, as mentioned in my first post, dedicated folks try to collect, 
preserve and have still more Guru Dev discourses translated. Funds would be 
good. Spreading the news too. A Yahoo group (see first post) is open so one may 
see what happens.

For more information and sermons by the gurudev of the TM movement, there are 
Paul Mason's pages.

 

-- 
 T. Kinnes
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-24 Thread Tormod Kinnes tkin...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
nablusoss1008,

You can't take that guy serious, noone in his right mind read books by Paul
 Mason. He has a simple agenda; to make money.


He, he, he. Take a hint from me: A fool says, I won't read great books if
they are translated and published.

Maharishi has also been edited, translated, and published by MUM and
others, and not for free. The same goes for so many others.

By the way, I have compared three translations of Guru Dev's 108
discourses. In my view Paul Mason's is the best, translationwise, but LB
Shriver's has good annotations to go for it. And there is one more
translation from India, *for free* on Paul Mason's Guru Dev page.

When one has rid the mind of mean dumbness one is better qualified to study
texts and compare. First study, then speak should hardly be ignored.

-- 
T. Kinnes

-- 
Tormod Kinnes


[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-24 Thread nablusoss1008

 Take a hint from me: only a fool can't see that Masons agenda goes further 
than making Money.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote :

 

 nablusoss1008,

 

 You can't take that guy serious, noone in his right mind read books by Paul 
Mason. He has a simple agenda; to make money. 

 He, he, he. Take a hint from me: A fool says, I won't read great books if 
they are translated and published.
 

 Maharishi has also been edited, translated, and published by MUM and others, 
and not for free. The same goes for so many others. 
 

 By the way, I have compared three translations of Guru Dev's 108 discourses. 
In my view Paul Mason's is the best, translationwise, but LB Shriver's has good 
annotations to go for it. And there is one more translation from India, for 
free on Paul Mason's Guru Dev page. 
 

 When one has rid the mind of mean dumbness one is better qualified to study 
texts and compare. First study, then speak should hardly be ignored.
 

-- 
 T. Kinnes
 

-- 
 Tormod Kinnes
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-24 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Then you should be in love with him since that was Marshy's main agenda too.

  From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are 
waiting to be published
   
    You can't take that guy serious, noone in his right mind read books by Paul 
Mason. He has a simple agenda; to make money.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote :

Here are books rich in teachings of Guru Dev.
Mason, Paul. 108 Discourses of Guru Dev: TheLife and Teachings of Swami 
Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath(1941-53). Vol 1. 
Penzance,Cornwall: Premanand, 2009. -- From a book review by Michael Laughrin,  
Michael@...
108 Discourses of Guru Dev by Paul Mason is, in my opinion, the most important 
and BEST spiritual book written in the last 100 years. Swami Brahmananda 
Saraswati was affectionately known as Guru Dev.

Guru Dev was the Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, the northernmost of the 4 
seats of the Shankaracharyas established by Shankara between 1500 and 2000 
years ago. This northernmost seat was vacant for many years until Guru Dev, who 
had been leading the life of a solitary saint living in the forest and 
mountains, finally agreed to take the seat.

These little 'sermons' (none is longer than 4 pages) are exceedingly clear, 
uplifting, and to the point. This volume has the discourses in the original 
Hindi and also in English (thank God, as my Hindi is not what is used to be). 
Of all the modern spiritual books that I have read, this one cuts through the 
junk like a sword and reveals the diamond truth that is at the core of the 
Vedic teachings. Most of the important topics are mentioned, such as 
Enlightenment (moksha), meditation, karma, the caste system, possessions, 
obstacles on the Path, Maya, dharma, and many, many others.
Mason, Paul. The Biography of Guru Dev: TheLife and Teachings of Swami 
Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath(1941-53). Vol 2. 
Penzance,Cornwall: Premanand, 2009.Mason, Paul. Guru Dev as presented 
byMaharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Life and Teachings of Swami Brahmananda 
Saraswati,Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-53). Vol 3. Penzance, Cornwall: 
Premanand, 2009.Mason, Paul. Guru Dev: Life and Teachings ofShankaracharya 
Swami Brahmananda Saraswati. Compiled by Paul Mason. 2012.Online 
[◦Link]Shriver, LBTrusty. The Sweet Teachings of the Blessed Sankaracarya 
SwamiBrahmananda Saraswati..Tr. and contr. Cynthia Ann Humes. Raleigh, NC: 
Lulu.com, 2013. —— ProfessorHumes supplied the annotations.Tiwari, 
Rameswar,compiler, LB Trusty Shriver, ed, and Cynthia Ann Humes, ed. Rocks Are 
Melting: The EverydayTeachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati Fairfield, IA: 
Clear RiverPress, 2000. —— Scanned hard-copy (online) manuscript, with 
annotations. May be tried asa companion to Paul Mason's 108 Discourses of Guru 
Dev.
In addition, as mentioned in my first post, dedicated folks try to collect, 
preserve and have still more Guru Dev discourses translated. Funds would be 
good. Spreading the news too. A Yahoo group (see first post) is open so one may 
see what happens.

For more information and sermons by the gurudev of the TM movement, there are 
Paul Mason's pages.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2014 07:01 PM, sri...@ymail.com wrote:


Maharishi originated TM.



He repacked traditional meditation for the masses.  In fact it is 
known he only gave out Ram as the mantra in the beginning.  And he 
also gave shaktipat.  He modified it over time and we don't know who 
made the suggestion but there are a lot of people in India who could 
have suggested the changes including maybe his astrologer.


He was not allowing himself to be on the puja table while alive but he 
should be now.




Under tradition we was not an acharya and thus could not be a guru dev.


No-one else's teaching is at all needed .



That mantra set will not work for everyone.  If you really want to learn 
more the TMO doesn't offer that.  You can't become an acharya with TM.


Good for you to be doing service to Brahmanada Saraswati but there is 
no greater teacher than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.




So you say.  There have been many great teachers.  It is not demeaning 
to MMY nor SBS to say so either.  We just seem to have some zealots 
around who want to turn TM into a religion.



Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is our   Guru Dev now.



Not really as explained above.  Don't hold MMY to things he wasn't set 
up for.



  Maharaja is also our Guru Dev. Jaya Guru Deva.



And that would be messing with the purity of the teaching.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote :

 Hi 

 I have been informed in another group that there are about a thousand 
discourses by Guru Dev in Hindi. Some have been published in English, but most 
have not.
 

 It has been stated by author Paul Mason that Maharishi owed most of his core 
ideas to Guru Dev. Maharishi also published a series of Guru Dev renderings.
 

 It would be very good if TM-ers made it clear to TM leaders that here lies an 
opportunity to promote a lot more from Guru Dev, who is the originator of TM, 
the one honoured during the TM initiation, and the one that Maharishi said this 
of: He made me.
 

 Guidance fit for folks - doesn't the TM movement see it?
 

 I would imagine that once you've told everyone that none of Guru Dev's 
teachings survived it's a bit tricky to suddenly account for a few hundred 
books of them. Especially when he contradicts Marshy an awful lot. And isn't 
there a sentence in there about never charging for initiations as it damns both 
the teacher and pupil to hell? Oops...
 

 

 Compare:
 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shankaracharya_Swami_Brahmanand_Ji/info 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shankaracharya_Swami_Brahmanand_Ji/info

 

 Regards,
-- 
 T. Kinnes






[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread srijau
Maharishi originated TM. He was not allowing himself to be on the puja table 
while alive but he should be now. No-one else's teaching is at all needed . 
Good for you to be doing service to Brahmanada Saraswati but there is no 
greater teacher than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is our   Guru 
Dev now.   Maharaja is also our Guru Dev. Jaya Guru Deva.