Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi
I think the poor lady has gotten confused with Yifu Xero's posts.


On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:01 PM, "whynotnow7"  wrote:

> "It was the semi-pornographic imagery" (wrt Ravi's "research article")
> 
> Sal, what on earth are you referring to? I missed this in his spoof the first 
> time I read it, or so I thought, and just now went back and couldn't find 
> anything including in all of his Wikipedia links, that comes remotely close 
> to what you are claiming - have you read the definition of pornography? 
> 
> I mentioned turquoiseb's similar imagery earlier, which was at least as 
> graphic as anything in Ravi's post. If you want to ban people using this type 
> of language, why not be fair about it? 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > 
> > > I agree. It's a parody, written to appear as a scientific paper. Many 
> > > genuine scientific papers contain the word "penis" and aren't 
> > > pornographic. Others use that word here, or vulgar synonyms of it, and 
> > > still don't cross the line. So I don't have a problem with Ravi's post.
> > 
> > Rick, I don't have any objection to the word either, of course.
> > It was the semi-pornographic imagery along with the 
> > personal attack that I felt crossed the line.
> > 
> > Then again, I didn't read the whole thing either.
> > Sal
> >
> 
> 
> 


[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi

LOL..

But his refusal to respond to my posts haven't hampered my research but in fact 
has greatly helped it.

I'm glad you enjoyed it.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> "Uncle Barry...never responds to me anymore"
> 
> I noticed today too that among us regulars, his group he will not interact 
> with anymore here on FFL is larger than the one he interacts with. He holds 
> that unique distinction among those here. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi"  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Sally,
> > 
> > Thank you for your input, I'm humbled and touched by your loving guidance. 
> > I know I behave like a petulant child (I'm sure this can be classified as 
> > some disorder , I would love your input here, banking on your wisdom and 
> > equanimity here).
> > 
> > Since you love and admire Uncle Barry so much can you please suggest an 
> > alternative name for this disorder so we don't violate the rules? I had a 
> > fallout with Uncle Barry, though I love him so much (I still read every 
> > email of his - is this an obsession of mine?), he never responds to me 
> > anymore which makes me sad, lonely and depressed :-(
> > 
> > Love - Ravi Yogi
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I 
> > > > would really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> > > 
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > 
> > > > Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> > > > 
> > > > Anatomy of the Turqster
> > > > 
> > > > Small Penis Disorder
> > > 
> > > Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
> > > If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.
> > > 
> > > Sal
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread whynotnow7
"It was the semi-pornographic imagery" (wrt Ravi's "research article")

Sal, what on earth are you referring to? I missed this in his spoof the first 
time I read it, or so I thought, and just now went back and couldn't find 
anything including in all of his Wikipedia links, that comes remotely close to 
what you are claiming - have you read the definition of pornography? 

I mentioned turquoiseb's similar imagery earlier, which was at least as graphic 
as anything in Ravi's post. If you want to ban people using this type of 
language, why not be fair about it?  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > I agree. It's a parody, written to appear as a scientific paper. Many 
> > genuine scientific papers contain the word "penis" and aren't pornographic. 
> > Others use that word here, or vulgar synonyms of it, and still don't cross 
> > the line. So I don't have a problem with Ravi's post.
> 
> Rick, I don't have any objection to the word either, of course.
> It was the semi-pornographic imagery along with the 
> personal attack that I felt crossed the line.
> 
> Then again, I didn't read the whole thing either.
> Sal
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread whynotnow7
"Uncle Barry...never responds to me anymore"

I noticed today too that among us regulars, his group he will not interact with 
anymore here on FFL is larger than the one he interacts with. He holds that 
unique distinction among those here. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi"  wrote:
>
> Dear Sally,
> 
> Thank you for your input, I'm humbled and touched by your loving guidance. I 
> know I behave like a petulant child (I'm sure this can be classified as some 
> disorder , I would love your input here, banking on your wisdom and 
> equanimity here).
> 
> Since you love and admire Uncle Barry so much can you please suggest an 
> alternative name for this disorder so we don't violate the rules? I had a 
> fallout with Uncle Barry, though I love him so much (I still read every email 
> of his - is this an obsession of mine?), he never responds to me anymore 
> which makes me sad, lonely and depressed :-(
> 
> Love - Ravi Yogi
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I 
> > > would really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> > 
> > > Thank you,
> > > 
> > > Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> > > 
> > > Anatomy of the Turqster
> > > 
> > > Small Penis Disorder
> > 
> > Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
> > If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.
> > 
> > Sal
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi



Dear wgm4u,

Well my research has shown that it's not about the physical size but the mental 
perception of it. However he is welcome to submit his size, I think it does add 
a new exciting dimension to this research and I look forward to working with 
him on this!!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> Turq_Please don't submit the size of your penis! :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
> > really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> > 
> > Anatomy of the Turqster
> > 
> > Small Penis Disorder
> > 
> > Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined by 
> > Dr. 
> > Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder characterized 
> > by a 
> > pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
> > references 
> > to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority 
> > complex and 
> > results in the person spending their entire time in various online 
> > spiritual 
> > chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
> > believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had arisen 
> > from 
> > their philosophy of "no practice" or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
> > 
> > Characteristics
> > People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and interpersonal 
> > skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and 
> > become 
> > the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
> > following symptoms
> > 
> > 1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
> > 2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
> > states 
> > of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
> > 3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
> > portrayals of 
> > religion.
> > 4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
> > respond 
> > and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
> > 5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
> > fear and 
> > retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
> > morals.
> > 6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
> > subjective 
> > experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective experiences 
> > in 
> > other matters.
> > 7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
> > achieved 
> > through "no" practice" practice which could include references to atheism, 
> > Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
> > 8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.
> > 
> > Causes
> > The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in 
> > religious 
> > cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and isolated 
> > in 
> > cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small 
> > Penis 
> > Disorder [4].
> > 
> > Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using Dr. 
> > Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
> > SOCIAL 
> > ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
> >  INSTABILITY   (AB).
> > 
> > Diagnosis
> > The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles especially 
> > their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological 
> > evaluation, 
> > are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often 
> > prompted 
> > by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by family 
> > and 
> > friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual online 
> > portals.
> > 
> > Treatment
> > Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders 
> > and 
> > long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the 
> > treatment 
> > of these disorders remain based on the case report method and not on 
> > clinical 
> > trials.
> > 
> > Dr. Ravi Yogi, the pioneer in SPC recommends the following.
> > 
> > * Schema Therapy
> > * Cognitive behavioral therapy
> > * Dr. Ravi Yogi's TTWFAR Therapy (TTWFAR - Taking the world for a 
> > ride™)
> > 
> > References
> > 1. Dr. Ravi Yogi (formerly Ravi Chivukula), Psy.D, U.C Berkeley is one 
> > of the 
> > leading researchers of SPC and is lobbying to include SPC in DSM V - 
> > Diagnostic 
> > and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) the fifth edition.
> > 2. See Histrionic Personality Disorder
> > 3. Frederick Lenz, former Cult leader on Amazon
> > 4. Seekers, Gurus, SPC and the rise of Skeptic Gurus by Dr. Ravi Yogi, 
> > Psy.D, 
> > U.C Berkeley
> > 5. Schema Therapy
> >
>



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

> I agree. It’s a parody, written to appear as a scientific paper. Many genuine 
> scientific papers contain the word “penis” and aren’t pornographic. Others 
> use that word here, or vulgar synonyms of it, and still don’t cross the line. 
> So I don’t have a problem with Ravi’s post.

Rick, I don't have any objection to the word either, of course.
It was the semi-pornographic imagery along with the 
personal attack that I felt crossed the line.

Then again, I didn't read the whole thing either.
Sal





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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Alex Stanley
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:26 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

 

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , Sal Sunshine 
wrote:
>
> On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I
would really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> > 
> > Anatomy of the Turqster
> > 
> > Small Penis Disorder
> 
> Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
> If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.

Trollish dumbassery that happens to contain the word 'penis' is not what I
would define as pornography. As I understand it, what would make Yahoo
classify FFL as an adult group (which is what we're trying to avoid and the
reason why we have the porno rule) is the posting of pornographic imagery.
Ravi's post did not contain any images or links to images. It also contained
no written descriptions of sexual acts or other overt sexual vulgarity,
which, as I recall, got some troll in a bit of hot water with Rick a while
back. As always, Rick has the final say, but I don't see Ravi's post as
being in violation of FFL rules.

I agree. It's a parody, written to appear as a scientific paper. Many
genuine scientific papers contain the word "penis" and aren't pornographic.
Others use that word here, or vulgar synonyms of it, and still don't cross
the line. So I don't have a problem with Ravi's post.



[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi

Dear tartbrain,

You have made 2 excellent observations

Why not use the cleverness for dissolving boundaries?

I have come to realize that intellect is a whore, it can only be used to 
analyze, dissect and divide. Though it has a great practical utility it cannot 
be used to dissolve boundaries - however it can help you to reach to the verge 
of realizing the futility of using intellect to dissolve boundaries which 
itself is a great achievement. I have decided to use my intellect like a car, 
never again will I let it deceive me.

What is the point?
I asked this myself several times. I have reached to a state that I never 
imagined was possible, I felt  I had nothing left to do now. So I got depressed 
for a while constantly asking myself - "what now". Then I realized I let my 
mind deceive myself and that the whole world is just a leela - a divine play 
and I just promised myself to just be playful and have fun. Meaning can only be 
attributed to practical things like a car or a house and not to existence or 
life, it is just meant to be enjoyed. So there is no point!!!

Though I pick on Barry I have nothing against him, I know I need to be careful 
with my choice of words but then I'm really not serious.

Love - Ravi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Dear tartbrain,
> > 
> > Thank you, I was feeling very depressed, lonely and downright needy. I knew 
> > I could count on your love, kindness and support.
> > 
> > You have literally saved a life by responding !! May God bless you !!!
> I thought your piece was clever, well researched, and well done. While I 
> chuckled, I also thought "whats the point?" why not use such cleverness for 
> dissolving boundaries, not creating them. It was more a message to myself 
> than to you. I am not immune to attempting creative dings, but I ask my self, 
> "whats the point".
> 
> Besides, Turq is a national treasure. Though its tough sometimes to figure 
> out which nation he is a treasure of -- being that he adheres to the vedic, 
> christian and buddhist ideal that "the world is my home".
> 
> And dick size is so arbitrary. Anyone can perform the great tapas of some 
> indian sadhus who tie heavy weights to such and let it seek infinite size.   
> 
> 
>  
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain  wrote:
> > >
> > > OK. And how does that make you feel?
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I 
> > > > would 
> > > > really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > 
> > > > Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> > > > 
> > > > Anatomy of the Turqster
> > > > 
> > > > Small Penis Disorder
> > > > 
> > > > Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined 
> > > > by Dr. 
> > > > Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder 
> > > > characterized by a 
> > > > pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
> > > > references 
> > > > to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority 
> > > > complex and 
> > > > results in the person spending their entire time in various online 
> > > > spiritual 
> > > > chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
> > > > believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had 
> > > > arisen from 
> > > > their philosophy of "no practice" or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
> > > > 
> > > > Characteristics
> > > > People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and 
> > > > interpersonal 
> > > > skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people 
> > > > and become 
> > > > the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
> > > > following symptoms
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat 
> > > > circles.
> > > > 2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or 
> > > > altered states 
> > > > of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
> > > > 3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or 
> > > > one-sided portrayals of 
> > > > religion.
> > > > 4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by 
> > > > stopping to respond 
> > > > and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
> > > > 5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by 
> > > > accusations of fear and 
> > > > retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
> > > > morals.
> > > > 6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
> > > > subjective 
> > > > experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective 
> > > > experiences in 
> > > > other matters.
> > > > 7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and 
> > > > happiness achieved 
> > > > t

[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi
Dear Sally,

Thank you for your input, I'm humbled and touched by your loving guidance. I 
know I behave like a petulant child (I'm sure this can be classified as some 
disorder , I would love your input here, banking on your wisdom and equanimity 
here).

Since you love and admire Uncle Barry so much can you please suggest an 
alternative name for this disorder so we don't violate the rules? I had a 
fallout with Uncle Barry, though I love him so much (I still read every email 
of his - is this an obsession of mine?), he never responds to me anymore which 
makes me sad, lonely and depressed :-(

Love - Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
> > really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> > 
> > Anatomy of the Turqster
> > 
> > Small Penis Disorder
> 
> Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
> If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.
> 
> Sal
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi

Dear docwhammo,

Thank you for your resonse.


There seems to be lot of confusion in this list on my last name. I have 
clarified this several times in the past. Since you are new I don't mind 
repeating it again. My last name is spelled Y-O-G-I, but pronounced yoo-gee-oh.

Aah..I love and hate the English language..LOL..hope this clarifies everything.

Love - Ravi Yugeeoh


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "docwhammo"  wrote:
>
> Yogi?  as in what?  yogi bear?
> 
> Wow, what a forum
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
> > really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> > 
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread tartbrain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi"  wrote:
>
> 
> Dear tartbrain,
> 
> Thank you, I was feeling very depressed, lonely and downright needy. I knew I 
> could count on your love, kindness and support.
> 
> You have literally saved a life by responding !! May God bless you !!!
I thought your piece was clever, well researched, and well done. While I 
chuckled, I also thought "whats the point?" why not use such cleverness for 
dissolving boundaries, not creating them. It was more a message to myself than 
to you. I am not immune to attempting creative dings, but I ask my self, "whats 
the point".

Besides, Turq is a national treasure. Though its tough sometimes to figure out 
which nation he is a treasure of -- being that he adheres to the vedic, 
christian and buddhist ideal that "the world is my home".

And dick size is so arbitrary. Anyone can perform the great tapas of some 
indian sadhus who tie heavy weights to such and let it seek infinite size.   


 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain  wrote:
> >
> > OK. And how does that make you feel?
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I 
> > > would 
> > > really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thank you,
> > > 
> > > Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> > > 
> > > Anatomy of the Turqster
> > > 
> > > Small Penis Disorder
> > > 
> > > Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined 
> > > by Dr. 
> > > Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder 
> > > characterized by a 
> > > pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
> > > references 
> > > to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority 
> > > complex and 
> > > results in the person spending their entire time in various online 
> > > spiritual 
> > > chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
> > > believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had 
> > > arisen from 
> > > their philosophy of "no practice" or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
> > > 
> > > Characteristics
> > > People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and 
> > > interpersonal 
> > > skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and 
> > > become 
> > > the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
> > > following symptoms
> > > 
> > >   1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
> > >   2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
> > > states 
> > > of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
> > >   3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
> > > portrayals of 
> > > religion.
> > >   4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
> > > respond 
> > > and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
> > >   5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
> > > fear and 
> > > retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
> > > morals.
> > >   6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
> > > subjective 
> > > experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective 
> > > experiences in 
> > > other matters.
> > >   7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
> > > achieved 
> > > through "no" practice" practice which could include references to 
> > > atheism, 
> > > Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
> > >   8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.
> > > 
> > > Causes
> > > The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in 
> > > religious 
> > > cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and 
> > > isolated in 
> > > cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small 
> > > Penis 
> > > Disorder [4].
> > > 
> > > Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using 
> > > Dr. 
> > > Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
> > > SOCIAL 
> > > ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
> > >  INSTABILITY   (AB).
> > > 
> > > Diagnosis
> > > The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles 
> > > especially 
> > > their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological 
> > > evaluation, 
> > > are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often 
> > > prompted 
> > > by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by 
> > > family and 
> > > friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual 
> > > online 
> > > portals.
> > > 
> > > Treatment
> > > Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders 
> > > and 
> > > long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the 
> > > treatment 
> > > of thes

[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread WillyTex
> > Small Penis Disorder
> >
Sal:
> Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
> 
4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw 
by stopping to respond and adopting a holier-than-thou 
attitude.



[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi

Dear tartbrain,

Thank you, I was feeling very depressed, lonely and downright needy. I knew I 
could count on your love, kindness and support.

You have literally saved a life by responding !! May God bless you !!!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain  wrote:
>
> OK. And how does that make you feel?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
> > really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> > 
> > Anatomy of the Turqster
> > 
> > Small Penis Disorder
> > 
> > Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined by 
> > Dr. 
> > Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder characterized 
> > by a 
> > pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
> > references 
> > to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority 
> > complex and 
> > results in the person spending their entire time in various online 
> > spiritual 
> > chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
> > believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had arisen 
> > from 
> > their philosophy of "no practice" or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
> > 
> > Characteristics
> > People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and interpersonal 
> > skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and 
> > become 
> > the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
> > following symptoms
> > 
> > 1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
> > 2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
> > states 
> > of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
> > 3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
> > portrayals of 
> > religion.
> > 4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
> > respond 
> > and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
> > 5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
> > fear and 
> > retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
> > morals.
> > 6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
> > subjective 
> > experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective experiences 
> > in 
> > other matters.
> > 7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
> > achieved 
> > through "no" practice" practice which could include references to atheism, 
> > Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
> > 8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.
> > 
> > Causes
> > The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in 
> > religious 
> > cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and isolated 
> > in 
> > cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small 
> > Penis 
> > Disorder [4].
> > 
> > Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using Dr. 
> > Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
> > SOCIAL 
> > ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
> >  INSTABILITY   (AB).
> > 
> > Diagnosis
> > The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles especially 
> > their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological 
> > evaluation, 
> > are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often 
> > prompted 
> > by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by family 
> > and 
> > friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual online 
> > portals.
> > 
> > Treatment
> > Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders 
> > and 
> > long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the 
> > treatment 
> > of these disorders remain based on the case report method and not on 
> > clinical 
> > trials.
> > 
> > Dr. Ravi Yogi, the pioneer in SPC recommends the following.
> > 
> > * Schema Therapy
> > * Cognitive behavioral therapy
> > * Dr. Ravi Yogi's TTWFAR Therapy (TTWFAR - Taking the world for a 
> > ride™)
> > 
> > References
> > 1. Dr. Ravi Yogi (formerly Ravi Chivukula), Psy.D, U.C Berkeley is one 
> > of the 
> > leading researchers of SPC and is lobbying to include SPC in DSM V - 
> > Diagnostic 
> > and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) the fifth edition.
> > 2. See Histrionic Personality Disorder
> > 3. Frederick Lenz, former Cult leader on Amazon
> > 4. Seekers, Gurus, SPC and the rise of Skeptic Gurus by Dr. Ravi Yogi, 
> > Psy.D, 
> > U.C Berkeley
> > 5. Schema Therapy
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 10, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

> Trollish dumbassery 

LOL!  Another great expression...

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
> > really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> > 
> > Anatomy of the Turqster
> > 
> > Small Penis Disorder
> 
> Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
> If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.

Trollish dumbassery that happens to contain the word 'penis' is not what I 
would define as pornography. As I understand it, what would make Yahoo classify 
FFL as an adult group (which is what we're trying to avoid and the reason why 
we have the porno rule) is the posting of pornographic imagery. Ravi's post did 
not contain any images or links to images. It also contained no written 
descriptions of sexual acts or other overt sexual vulgarity, which, as I 
recall, got some troll in a bit of hot water with Rick a while back. As always, 
Rick has the final say, but I don't see Ravi's post as being in violation of 
FFL rules.



[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread whynotnow7
lol- I assume you are joking Sal, right? At least I hope you are. turquoiseb 
talks about "big dicks" (as in penises) regularly and you've never asked for 
the moderators to intervene on your behalf regarding his remarks. 

I recall the last time he did this was in reference to that fellow Mario who 
was pestering people for the advanced techniques and turquoiseb said something 
about a side effect being the guy would grow a gigantic dick. Crickets from you 
Sal at that time. 

I thought Ravi's article was pretty good satire.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
> > really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> > 
> > Anatomy of the Turqster
> > 
> > Small Penis Disorder
> 
> Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
> If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.
> 
> Sal
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread docwhammo
Yogi?  as in what?  yogi bear?

Wow, what a forum



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
> really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> 
> 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 10, 2011, at 9:43 AM, tartbrain wrote:

> OK. And how does that make you feel?

I hope it makes him feel like he's about to
get his ass suspended.  At least that
would be my inclination, if it were up to
me.  Which it's not.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread tartbrain
OK. And how does that make you feel?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
> really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> 
> Anatomy of the Turqster
> 
> Small Penis Disorder
> 
> Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined by 
> Dr. 
> Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder characterized by 
> a 
> pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
> references 
> to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority complex 
> and 
> results in the person spending their entire time in various online spiritual 
> chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
> believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had arisen 
> from 
> their philosophy of "no practice" or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
> 
> Characteristics
> People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and interpersonal 
> skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and 
> become 
> the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
> following symptoms
> 
>   1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
>   2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
> states 
> of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
>   3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
> portrayals of 
> religion.
>   4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
> respond 
> and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
>   5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
> fear and 
> retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
> morals.
>   6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
> subjective 
> experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective experiences 
> in 
> other matters.
>   7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
> achieved 
> through "no" practice" practice which could include references to atheism, 
> Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
>   8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.
> 
> Causes
> The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in religious 
> cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and isolated 
> in 
> cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small 
> Penis 
> Disorder [4].
> 
> Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using Dr. 
> Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
> SOCIAL 
> ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
>  INSTABILITY   (AB).
> 
> Diagnosis
> The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles especially 
> their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological evaluation, 
> are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often 
> prompted 
> by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by family 
> and 
> friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual online 
> portals.
> 
> Treatment
> Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders and 
> long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the 
> treatment 
> of these disorders remain based on the case report method and not on clinical 
> trials.
> 
> Dr. Ravi Yogi, the pioneer in SPC recommends the following.
> 
>   * Schema Therapy
>   * Cognitive behavioral therapy
>   * Dr. Ravi Yogi's TTWFAR Therapy (TTWFAR - Taking the world for a 
> ride™)
> 
> References
>   1. Dr. Ravi Yogi (formerly Ravi Chivukula), Psy.D, U.C Berkeley is one 
> of the 
> leading researchers of SPC and is lobbying to include SPC in DSM V - 
> Diagnostic 
> and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) the fifth edition.
>   2. See Histrionic Personality Disorder
>   3. Frederick Lenz, former Cult leader on Amazon
>   4. Seekers, Gurus, SPC and the rise of Skeptic Gurus by Dr. Ravi Yogi, 
> Psy.D, 
> U.C Berkeley
>   5. Schema Therapy
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread wgm4u
Turq_Please don't submit the size of your penis! :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
> really appreciate your input and blessings. 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Much Love - Ravi Yogi
> 
> Anatomy of the Turqster
> 
> Small Penis Disorder
> 
> Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined by 
> Dr. 
> Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder characterized by 
> a 
> pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
> references 
> to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority complex 
> and 
> results in the person spending their entire time in various online spiritual 
> chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
> believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had arisen 
> from 
> their philosophy of "no practice" or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
> 
> Characteristics
> People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and interpersonal 
> skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and 
> become 
> the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
> following symptoms
> 
>   1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
>   2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
> states 
> of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
>   3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
> portrayals of 
> religion.
>   4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
> respond 
> and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
>   5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
> fear and 
> retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
> morals.
>   6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
> subjective 
> experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective experiences 
> in 
> other matters.
>   7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
> achieved 
> through "no" practice" practice which could include references to atheism, 
> Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
>   8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.
> 
> Causes
> The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in religious 
> cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and isolated 
> in 
> cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small 
> Penis 
> Disorder [4].
> 
> Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using Dr. 
> Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
> SOCIAL 
> ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
>  INSTABILITY   (AB).
> 
> Diagnosis
> The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles especially 
> their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological evaluation, 
> are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often 
> prompted 
> by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by family 
> and 
> friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual online 
> portals.
> 
> Treatment
> Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders and 
> long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the 
> treatment 
> of these disorders remain based on the case report method and not on clinical 
> trials.
> 
> Dr. Ravi Yogi, the pioneer in SPC recommends the following.
> 
>   * Schema Therapy
>   * Cognitive behavioral therapy
>   * Dr. Ravi Yogi's TTWFAR Therapy (TTWFAR - Taking the world for a 
> ride™)
> 
> References
>   1. Dr. Ravi Yogi (formerly Ravi Chivukula), Psy.D, U.C Berkeley is one 
> of the 
> leading researchers of SPC and is lobbying to include SPC in DSM V - 
> Diagnostic 
> and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) the fifth edition.
>   2. See Histrionic Personality Disorder
>   3. Frederick Lenz, former Cult leader on Amazon
>   4. Seekers, Gurus, SPC and the rise of Skeptic Gurus by Dr. Ravi Yogi, 
> Psy.D, 
> U.C Berkeley
>   5. Schema Therapy
>