Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Netherlands: the crime of questioning
On 11/14/2014 9:37 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The Soviets (remember them?) excelled in just this type of psychological suppression. The State existed to liberate us from our misery at the hands of the bloated lackeys of capitalism, Anyone challenging this was obviously mentally and emotionally disturbed beyond any self-control. To remedy this, the Soviets devised psychiatric gulags to house and confine the disturbed and protect them from the harshness of civilian life among their comrades. Just like then, questioning has now become the crime that reveals a comrade's mental disturbance. The Low-Landers have seen the light and it is Red. Bari2 will be pleased that the commissars have finally pounded their fists upon the gilded walls and Bari1 will proclaim it final justice delivered to the legacy of styoopid and greedy 'smearicans. I say let the muslims have it all. Like Charles Lindbergh, I say give Europe to the highest takers. Rock back and forth as you recite the Quran motherfuckers and recall how you were repressed by the Crusaders. After we nuke Mecca you all can all toke on the hash in your hookahs and praise Allah ... The Merciful, The Compassionate. You'll feel so much better about everything. /Apparently a few FFL informants are opposed Wilder's goal of a five-year moratorium on the immigration of non-Western foreigners who intend to stay in the Netherlands. /
[FairfieldLife] Re: Netherlands: the crime of questioning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : While I may agree that trying to stifle free speech is a bad idea, it's good for people to know that this particular Ass Clown has as much credibility in the Netherlands as the now-dead leader of the Westboro Baptist Church did in America. When he supposedly innocently asked Do you want more Moroccans? it was *intended* to incite hatred, as he has done more overtly on many other occasions. The question was as innocent as asking Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes, but the issue is: who decides whether or not Wilders is an Ass Clown; who decides whether or not he has any credibility; who decides whether or not he's inciting hatred? I say that I'll decide for myself, thank you very much. I don't want the state, the law and the police deciding for me. That's why hate-speech laws are essentially illiberal. The Netherlands definitely has a few bigots and Ass Clowns like this one, but *on the whole* common sense tends to win out in the end. It's just that the Ass Clowns capture news headlines and make it seem as if they are more important and more numerous than they are. From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 2:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Netherlands: the crime of questioning Netherlands: When the Questions Become the Crime http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech Netherlands: When the Questions Become the Crime http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech More problematic is that it reaches a point where discussion or debate is impossible because the questions themselves become a crime. Such law... View on www.gatestoneinsti... http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Netherlands: the crime of questioning
The Soviets (remember them?) excelled in just this type of psychological suppression. The State existed to liberate us from our misery at the hands of the bloated lackeys of capitalism, Anyone challenging this was obviously mentally and emotionally disturbed beyond any self-control. To remedy this, the Soviets devised psychiatric gulags to house and confine the disturbed and protect them from the harshness of civilian life among their comrades. Just like then, questioning has now become the crime that reveals a comrade's mental disturbance. The Low-Landers have seen the light and it is Red. Bari2 will be pleased that the commissars have finally pounded their fists upon the gilded walls and Bari1 will proclaim it final justice delivered to the legacy of styoopid and greedy 'smearicans. I say let the muslims have it all. Like Charles Lindbergh, I say give Europe to the highest takers. Rock back and forth as you recite the Quran motherfuckers and recall how you were repressed by the Crusaders. After we nuke Mecca you all can all toke on the hash in your hookahs and praise Allah ... The Merciful, The Compassionate. You'll feel so much better about everything.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Netherlands: the crime of questioning
Like you I hate hate speech laws. There are laws already in place against incitement which can deal with anyone who held aloft a burning brand and said: Follow me lads and let's incinerate the synagogue. If someone is not advocating violence they should be free to say what they like without having their collar felt by the boys in blue. Wilders thinks that Muslim immigration into the Netherlands is a potential threat; Barry thinks that there is nothing to worry about. Here's an idea: why don't Wilders and Barry have an open debate about the issue? We can listen to what they both have to say and decide for ourselves whose view makes the most sense. I've sometimes idly thought about whether terrorism could ever be justified. (No - WTC assaults or indiscriminately exploding bombs in public spaces are *never* acceptable.) But what about targetted assassinations of agents of the state - magistrates, policemen, politicians . . ? Could that ever be justifiable? I came to the conclusion that in only one case could such terrorism be acceptable: when the individual was forbidden to express his opinions. To submit to a law which proclaimed that you were not allowed to say what you passionately believed in would be to accept being a slave. If anyone tried to stop me from saying what I thought I'd slit their throat from ear to ear. That'll learn 'em. These hate-crime laws are essentially thought-crime laws. If you regard a religion (for example) as idiotic then you're implying that an adherent of said religion is an idiot so could be prosecuted for incitement of popular hatred. And as far as old-skool prejudice goes (blacks/Jews/gays/women), why not let someone make a fool of himself - or damn herself out of her own mouth? We're better off bringing the bigots into the light of day. (Batten down the hatches for troll attack.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Netherlands: When the Questions Become the Crime http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech Netherlands: When the Questions Become the Crime http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech More problematic is that it reaches a point where discussion or debate is impossible because the questions themselves become a crime. Such law... View on www.gatestoneinsti... http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Netherlands: the crime of questioning
According to Islam, anyone speaking ill of the prophet, the Quran or Islam in general is not just a kufir (non-believer). Rather, they are considered any enemy of Islam and can be murdered at will by any right-believing Muslim without regard to time, place or event. Murdered without legal or moral repercussions in Muslim countries and glorified in paradise if prosecuted by non-muslim kufirs.
