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. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up
[FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome
with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through to the finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSl-6aC6GEQ Spoiler: spot Orb to the end! -Buck From: Buck To: FairfieldLife
[FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: It's very important the environment that we keep. Group meditations are really important. In group meditations you get the advantage of the energy of the other person, and the devotion of the other person, and the perseverance, and the will of the other person, and you are absolutely inspired. So, group meditations, seek them out! Can't argue with Buck's logic here, if what you want in a spiritual movement and out of life is (to reference the Bertrand Russell quote on the FFL Home Page) to cultivate the will to believe, as opposed to the wish to find out. By all means, if the most important thing to you is to think the way the people around you think, believe the things they believe, and act the way they act, file into the Domes twice a day and immerse yourself in these other people's energy and devotion. After all, we all know that coherence, as the term is used in physics, involves lots of electrons lining up and marching in lock-step together, not one of them acting as if they had any individuality or personality or worth on their own. The only important thing is that they all do exactly what the other electrons are doing. So it is with coherence in the social/sociological setting of the Domes. If your highest goal in life is to be just like everybody else around you, you simply MUST meditate in groups with them every day. Skip a day, and you risk shudder having ideas of your own, or doing things that might be considered by your Betters as Off The Program. Can't have that... More seriously, although almost everyone (even me) might admit that there is a perceptible value in meditating with a group, it might be of interest to some here that some spiritual teachers in traditions other than TM *discourage* participating in group meds more often than, say, once or twice a month. The reason is that they have found over time that those who do it more often become lazy about their own meditations, and rarely make any progress in being able to have deep meditations when *not* in a group. They ride the energy that they pick up from the group, and coast with it, rather than doing what might be necessary to have just as deep and profound a meditation on their own.
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It's very important the environment that we keep. Group meditations are really important. In group meditations you get the advantage of the energy of the other person, and the devotion of the other person, and the perseverance, and the will of the other person, and you are absolutely inspired. So, group meditations, seek them out! turquoise: Can't argue with Buck's logic here, if what you want in a spiritual movement and out of life is (to reference the Bertrand Russell quote on the FFL Home Page) to cultivate the will to believe, as opposed to the wish to find out. By all means, if the most important thing to you is to think the way the people around you think, believe the things they believe, and act the way they act, file into the Domes twice a day and immerse yourself in these other people's energy and devotion. Or, you could file into a French café twice a day and immerse yourself in these other people's energy and devotion, and you can be just like every one else. LoL! After all, we all know that coherence, as the term is used in physics, involves lots of electrons lining up and marching in lock-step together, not one of them acting as if they had any individuality or personality or worth on their own. The only important thing is that they all do exactly what the other electrons are doing. So it is with coherence in the social/sociological setting of the Domes. If your highest goal in life is to be just like everybody else around you, you simply MUST meditate in groups with them every day. Skip a day, and you risk shudder having ideas of your own, or doing things that might be considered by your Betters as Off The Program. Can't have that... More seriously, although almost everyone (even me) might admit that there is a perceptible value in meditating with a group, it might be of interest to some here that some spiritual teachers in traditions other than TM *discourage* participating in group meds more often than, say, once or twice a month. The reason is that they have found over time that those who do it more often become lazy about their own meditations, and rarely make any progress in being able to have deep meditations when *not* in a group. They ride the energy that they pick up from the group, and coast with it, rather than doing what might be necessary to have just as deep and profound a meditation on their own.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: It's very important the environment that we keep. Group meditations are really important. In group meditations you get the advantage of the energy of the other person, and the devotion of the other person, and the perseverance, and the will of the other person, and you are absolutely inspired. So, group meditations, seek them out! Can't argue with Buck's logic here, if what you want in a spiritual movement and out of life is (to reference the Bertrand Russell quote on the FFL Home Page) to cultivate the will to believe, as opposed to the wish to find out. By all means, if the most important thing to you is to think the way the people around you think, believe the things they believe, and act the way they act, file into the Domes twice a day and immerse yourself in these other people's energy and devotion. After all, we all know that coherence, as the term is used in physics, involves lots of electrons lining up and marching in lock-step together, not one of them acting as if they had any individuality or personality or worth on their own. The only important thing is that they all do exactly what the other electrons are doing. So it is with coherence in the social/sociological setting of the Domes. If your highest goal in life is to be just like everybody else around you, you simply MUST meditate in groups with them every day. Skip a day, and you risk having ideas of your own, or doing things that might be considered by your Betters as Off The Program. Can't have that... More seriously, although almost everyone (even me) might admit that there is a perceptible value in meditating with a group, it might be of interest to some here that some spiritual teachers in traditions other than TM *discourage* participating in group meds more often than, say, once or twice a month. The reason is that they have found over time that those who do it more often become lazy about their own meditations, and rarely make any progress in being able to have deep meditations when *not* in a group. They ride the energy that they pick up from the group, and coast with it, rather than doing what might be necessary to have just as deep and profound a meditation on their own. I don't buy that. You're either having a deep meditation or you're not at whatever time you're having it. Those riding the energy of a group aren't going to get lazy in their ability to have deep meditations on their own. Maybe in the case of riding a bike and drafting behind some truck you could say this. You don't and can't build meditation muscles especially with TM where it is purportedly effortless anyway. Lazy or not lazy is not a factor, fit or not fit, alone or in a group is not going to enable or disable anyone from transcending. Isn't it as easy as falling off a cliff? (And while on the subject of herds, a nod to Alfred Jacob Miller.) [File:Alfred Jacob Miller - Hunting Buffalo - Walters 371940190.jpg]
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turq, with regards to Bertrand Russell's *wish to find out* I reply that at MUM, TM and TMSP is not called Belief in Consciousness but rather Development of Consciousness and students receive academic credit for it. And this credit is recognized by the regional accrediting agency as well as by graduate programs at universities all over the US and even as far away as China. In fact, this summer I've noticed that the number of young Chinese women in the Dome is increasing. I mention this because I find the Chinese in general to be very smart and very practical. With regards to Russell's *will to believe* just in the simplest way we don't find uniformity with TMers, even long term TMers and recert govs. Meaning that in all these groups we find devout Jews and Catholics and Protestants and Hindus. Don't know about Muslims. As for uniformity of TM related beliefs, there are probably those who actually do believe 100% and there are those who believe less and there are those who simply go by their own experience. A woman who sits near me is what I call on the TM straight and narrow, as is her husband. I am not. I'm sure such variance can be found in the rest of the Dome. And lastly, if clothing is any indication, and personally I think that it is, then there's plenty of individuality in the women's Dome: some wear jogging outfits; some wear beautiful punjabis; some like me wear regular casual clothes; some of the students wear tank tops and shorts; some women in the evening come straight from work in skirts or dresses. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: It's very important the environment that we keep. Group meditations are really important. In group meditations you get the advantage of the energy of the other person, and the devotion of the other person, and the perseverance, and the will of the other person, and you are absolutely inspired. So, group meditations, seek them out! Can't argue with Buck's logic here, if what you want in a spiritual movement and out of life is (to reference the Bertrand Russell quote on the FFL Home Page) to cultivate the will to believe, as opposed to the wish to find out.
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reckon these are some of the Asian gals who were trading sex for grades and money with the professor who was just fired for same, according to the posts on MUM Secrets? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome turq, with regards to Bertrand Russell's *wish to find out* I reply that at MUM, TM and TMSP is not called Belief in Consciousness but rather Development of Consciousness and students receive academic credit for it. And this credit is recognized by the regional accrediting agency as well as by graduate programs at universities all over the US and even as far away as China. In fact, this summer I've noticed that the number of young Chinese women in the Dome is increasing. I mention this because I find the Chinese in general to be very smart and very practical. With regards to Russell's *will to believe* just in the simplest way we don't find uniformity with TMers, even long term TMers and recert govs. Meaning that in all these groups we find devout Jews and Catholics and Protestants and Hindus. Don't know about Muslims. As for uniformity of TM related beliefs, there are probably those who actually do believe 100% and there are those who believe less and there are those who simply go by their own experience. A woman who sits near me is what I call on the TM straight and narrow, as is her husband. I am not. I'm sure such variance can be found in the rest of the Dome. And lastly, if clothing is any indication, and personally I think that it is, then there's plenty of individuality in the women's Dome: some wear jogging outfits; some wear beautiful punjabis; some like me wear regular casual clothes; some of the students wear tank tops and shorts; some women in the evening come straight from work in skirts or dresses. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: It's very important the environment that we keep. Group meditations are really important. In group meditations you get the advantage of the energy of the other person, and the devotion of the other person, and the perseverance, and the will of the other person, and you are absolutely inspired. So, group meditations, seek them out! Can't argue with Buck's logic here, if what you want in a spiritual movement and out of life is (to reference the Bertrand Russell quote on the FFL Home Page) to cultivate the will to believe, as opposed to the wish to find out.
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MJ, I have no idea. What I do know, having lived 65 years, is that this is a place of yin and yang, up and down, positive and negative. IMO anyone and anything on this planet is gonna be a mix. So maybe it's wise not to throw the baby out with the bath water. I'm not saying that's what you did. I'm simply saying that some have experienced the good and bad of the TMO and decided that the good is good enough to hang in here. AND some of us also think that that good will make the bad less horrific as time goes by. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome reckon these are some of the Asian gals who were trading sex for grades and money with the professor who was just fired for same, according to the posts on MUM Secrets? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome turq, with regards to Bertrand Russell's *wish to find out* I reply that at MUM, TM and TMSP is not called Belief in Consciousness but rather Development of Consciousness and students receive academic credit for it. And this credit is recognized by the regional accrediting agency as well as by graduate programs at universities all over the US and even as far away as China. In fact, this summer I've noticed that the number of young Chinese women in the Dome is increasing. I mention this because I find the Chinese in general to be very smart and very practical. With regards to Russell's *will to believe* just in the simplest way we don't find uniformity with TMers, even long term TMers and recert govs. Meaning that in all these groups we find devout Jews and Catholics and Protestants and Hindus. Don't know about Muslims. As for uniformity of TM related beliefs, there are probably those who actually do believe 100% and there are those who believe less and there are those who simply go by their own experience. A woman who sits near me is what I call on the TM straight and narrow, as is her husband. I am not. I'm sure such variance can be found in the rest of the Dome. And lastly, if clothing is any indication, and personally I think that it is, then there's plenty of individuality in the women's Dome: some wear jogging outfits; some wear beautiful punjabis; some like me wear regular casual clothes; some of the students wear tank tops and shorts; some women in the evening come straight from work in skirts or dresses. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: It's very important the environment that we keep. Group meditations are really important. In group meditations you get the advantage of the energy of the other person, and the devotion of the other person, and the perseverance, and the will of the other person, and you are absolutely inspired. So, group meditations, seek them out! Can't argue with Buck's logic here, if what you want in a spiritual movement and out of life is (to reference the Bertrand Russell quote on the FFL Home Page) to cultivate the will to believe, as opposed to the wish to find out.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: turq, with regards to Bertrand Russell's *wish to find out* I reply that at MUM, TM and TMSP is not called Belief in Consciousness but rather Development of Consciousness and students receive academic credit for it. And this credit is recognized by the regional accrediting agency as well as by graduate programs at universities all over the US and even as far away as China. In fact, this summer I've noticed that the number of young Chinese women in the Dome is increasing. I mention this because I find the Chinese in general to be very smart and very practical. With regards to Russell's *will to believe* just in the simplest way we don't find uniformity with TMers, even long term TMers and recert govs. Meaning that in all these groups we find devout Jews and Catholics and Protestants and Hindus. Don't know about Muslims. As for uniformity of TM related beliefs, there are probably those who actually do believe 100% and there are those who believe less and there are those who simply go by their own experience. A woman who sits near me is what I call on the TM straight and narrow, as is her husband. I am not. I'm sure such variance can be found in the rest of the Dome. And lastly, if clothing is any indication, and personally I think that it is, then there's plenty of individuality in the women's Dome: some wear jogging outfits; some wear beautiful punjabis; some like me wear regular casual clothes; some of the students wear tank tops and shorts; some women in the evening come straight from work in skirts or dresses. Interesting that in all of your examples of individuality that you illustrate above you lump the entire Chinese population into one generalization. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: It's very important the environment that we keep. Group meditations are really important. In group meditations you get the advantage of the energy of the other person, and the devotion of the other person, and the perseverance, and the will of the other person, and you are absolutely inspired. So, group meditations, seek them out! Can't argue with Buck's logic here, if what you want in a spiritual movement and out of life is (to reference the Bertrand Russell quote on the FFL Home Page) to cultivate the will to believe, as opposed to the wish to find out.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: reckon these are some of the Asian gals who were trading sex for grades and money with the professor who was just fired for same, according to the posts on MUM Secrets? This is the point in the discussion that the informants fink on the Asian gals. Next you'll be outing all the gays and lesbians. Go figure. turq, with regards to Bertrand Russell's *wish to find out* I reply that at MUM, TM and TMSP is not called Belief in Consciousness but rather Development of Consciousness and students receive academic credit for it. And this credit is recognized by the regional accrediting agency as well as by graduate programs at universities all over the US and even as far away as China. In fact, this summer I've noticed that the number of young Chinese women in the Dome is increasing. I mention this because I find the Chinese in general to be very smart and very practical. With regards to Russell's *will to believe* just in the simplest way we don't find uniformity with TMers, even long term TMers and recert govs. Meaning that in all these groups we find devout Jews and Catholics and Protestants and Hindus. Don't know about Muslims. As for uniformity of TM related beliefs, there are probably those who actually do believe 100% and there are those who believe less and there are those who simply go by their own experience. A woman who sits near me is what I call on the TM straight and narrow, as is her husband. I am not. I'm sure such variance can be found in the rest of the Dome. And lastly, if clothing is any indication, and personally I think that it is, then there's plenty of individuality in the women's Dome: some wear jogging outfits; some wear beautiful punjabis; some like me wear regular casual clothes; some of the students wear tank tops and shorts; some women in the evening come straight from work in skirts or dresses. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: It's very important the environment that we keep. Group meditations are really important. In group meditations you get the advantage of the energy of the other person, and the devotion of the other person, and the perseverance, and the will of the other person, and you are absolutely inspired. So, group meditations, seek them out! Can't argue with Buck's logic here, if what you want in a spiritual movement and out of life is (to reference the Bertrand Russell quote on the FFL Home Page) to cultivate the will to believe, as opposed to the wish to find out.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, with regards to Bertrand Russell's *wish to find out* I reply that at MUM, TM and TMSP is not called Belief in Consciousness but rather Development of Consciousness and students receive academic credit for it. And this credit is recognized by the regional accrediting agency as well as by graduate programs at universities all over the US and even as far away as China. In fact, this summer I've noticed that the number of young Chinese women in the Dome is increasing. I mention this because I find the Chinese in general to be very smart and very practical. With regards to Russell's *will to believe* just in the simplest way we don't find uniformity with TMers, even long term TMers and recert govs. Meaning that in all these groups we find devout Jews and Catholics and Protestants and Hindus. Don't know about Muslims. As for uniformity of TM related beliefs, there are probably those who actually do believe 100% and there are those who believe less and there are those who simply go by their own experience. A woman who sits near me is what I call on the TM straight and narrow, as is her husband. I am not. I'm sure such variance can be found in the rest of the Dome. And lastly, if clothing is any indication, and personally I think that it is, then there's plenty of individuality in the women's Dome: some wear jogging outfits; some wear beautiful punjabis; some like me wear regular casual clothes; some of the students wear tank tops and shorts; some women in the evening come straight from work in skirts or dresses. Interesting that in all of your examples of individuality that you illustrate above you lump the entire Chinese population into one generalization. Not hard when we have an anthem like this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH2P_pVze6s :) From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: It's very important the environment that we keep. Group meditations are really important. In group meditations you get the advantage of the energy of the other person, and the devotion of the other person, and the perseverance, and the will of the other person, and you are absolutely inspired. So, group meditations, seek them out! Can't argue with Buck's logic here, if what you want in a spiritual movement and out of life is (to reference the Bertrand Russell quote on the FFL Home Page) to cultivate the will to believe, as opposed to the wish to find out.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: For what it is worth, the long-term EEG of TMers tends to be different than that found in people practicing concentrative (generic mantra meditation, such as the RR, compassion meditation, etc) or mindfulness practices. As well, these two practices tend to suppress the parts of the brain thought to be associated with sense of self, so on these measures, at least, TM and most other forms of meditation have opposite effects. Perhaps on some more fundamental level, all meditation practices lead to the same place, and group meditation involving more than one school of meditation will indeed be beneficial for all concerned, but based on the theory that group meditation leads to synergy between practitioners, the current physiological evidence suggests that TMers and practitioners of other types of meditation aren't really going to reinforce any known aspect of their respective practices by getting together and practicing in groups. Yet another reason to keep the access to the Domes strictly limited to people we know are doing TM. The valid points you bring forward are only scratching the surface, further research will show the dramatic uniqueness of Transcendental Meditation compared to other techniques. And who knows, on day even Buck will understand the need for the strictess possible rules of access to the Domes :-)
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magnetism. ��Paramahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. ��Paramahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite
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: Great quote on group meditation, the invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. Yes certainly, the spirituality of the Meissner Effect [ME] of meditation in group meditation practice. Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. ��Paramahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. ��Paramahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging
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to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through to the finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSl-6aC6GEQ Spoiler: spot Orb to the end! -Buck From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome àDear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM and its leaders, MJ given the science and experience of meditation now I am concerned that you are not in a group meditating. I have noticed that the Yogananda people are open to having people meditate along with them in their group
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Thanks - Glad it rang true for you, Ravi. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:43 PM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** It is interesting how, when Yogananda said this, probably in the 1920's or 30's, it was a big deal in the West to recognize such a thing, 'the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them'. All sorts of psychic stuff, and 'mystery from the East' was starting to break loose. Nowadays, and since the 1970's, everybody in the West recognizes 'vibes'. As far as group meditation goes, it does work in providing a stronger experience for the participants. As if the teachers from the East became necessary, once the West began its headlong rush into technology. Grow a fuller human being, first, before speeding up time and its consequences, beyond anyone's ability to calculate a result. Now their time, The Gurus, as a social force, appears to be over, and it is up to each of us, to make our choices. Bon Voyage! âReally well stated Jim - loved it !!! â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: We become like the people we mingle with, not only through their conversation, but through the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them. When we come into the range of their magnetism we are affected. âParamahansa Yogananda snip
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Thanks - Glad it rang true for you, Ravi. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:43 PM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** It is interesting how, when Yogananda said this, probably in the 1920's or 30's, it was a big deal in the West to recognize such a thing, 'the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them'. All sorts of psychic stuff, and 'mystery from the East' was starting to break loose. Nowadays, and since the 1970's, everybody in the West recognizes 'vibes'. As far as group meditation goes, it does work in providing a stronger experience for the participants. As if the teachers from the East became necessary, once the West began its headlong rush into technology. Grow a fuller human being, first, before speeding up time and its consequences, beyond anyone's ability to calculate a result. Now their time, The Gurus, as a social force, appears to be over, and it is up to each of us, to make our choices. Bon Voyage! âReally well stated Jim - loved it !!! â Dear Doctor; Om no, there is still room for spiritual revolution. Every 10 or 15 years another articulate transcendentalist will come along. Mysticism always provides the commentary on materialism. Extreme materialism deserves extreme criticism and by nature will bring along greater teachers of mysticism. Eastern mysticism is so much more standardized, studied and disciplined in this area that it becomes a standard by a default compared to the Western mind confused by Maya. We'll continue to see our Western mystic lecturers influenced by the East, like an Emerson was or the more recent giant and modern luminary, Dr. D.R. Hawkins, and even your own writings here. Seems always room for teachers who point the way out for the ignorant. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: We become like the people we mingle with, not only through their conversation, but through the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them. When we come into the range of their magnetism we are affected. âParamahansa Yogananda snip
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Thanks - Glad it rang true for you, Ravi. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:43 PM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** It is interesting how, when Yogananda said this, probably in the 1920's or 30's, it was a big deal in the West to recognize such a thing, 'the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them'. All sorts of psychic stuff, and 'mystery from the East' was starting to break loose. Nowadays, and since the 1970's, everybody in the West recognizes 'vibes'. As far as group meditation goes, it does work in providing a stronger experience for the participants. As if the teachers from the East became necessary, once the West began its headlong rush into technology. Grow a fuller human being, first, before speeding up time and its consequences, beyond anyone's ability to calculate a result. Now their time, The Gurus, as a social force, appears to be over, and it is up to each of us, to make our choices. Bon Voyage! âReally well stated Jim - loved it !!! â Dear Doctor; Om no, there is still room for spiritual revolution. Every 10 or 15 years another articulate transcendentalist will come along. Mysticism always provides the commentary on materialism. Extreme materialism deserves extreme criticism and by nature will bring along greater teachers of mysticism. Eastern mysticism is so much more standardized, studied and disciplined in this area that it becomes a standard by a default compared to the Western mind confused by Maya. We'll continue to see our Western mystic lecturers influenced by the East, like an Emerson was or the more recent giant and modern luminary, Dr. D.R. Hawkins, and even your own writings here. Seems always room for teachers who point the way out for the ignorant. -Buck Dear Buck, Om, I agree. For society to even function there has to be knowledge of Silence, somewhere. But there is no longer the singular focus in the West, on teachers from the East. It was a wave that lasted about twenty five years, in which specific teachers became very popular in this culture. Nowadays, such teachers may still be around, and they will attract their adherents, but the social momentum, in general, is far more diverse. Much of Eastern consciousness has already been integrated into the West. We have gone from a few central figures, to a broad array of sustainable choices. The knowledge that emerged from just a few minds, mouths, and hands, is soaking in.:-) -Jai Guru Dev- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: We become like the people we mingle with, not only through their conversation, but through the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them. When we come into the range of their magnetism we are affected. âParamahansa Yogananda snip
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Doctor, I do agree with thee. In cultural trend this may be so though some Eastern saints and spiritual teachers will carry a certain currency of authority of life invested in spirituality that Western religious people may still only strive to have. But either way also by human nature the need for broad collective action looms large now in reaction. Generally in Eastern or Western mysticism, Standardization is defined as best technical application consentual wisdom inclusive of processes for selection in making appropriate choices for ratification coupled with consistent decisions for maintaining obtained standards. This view includes the case of spontaneous standardization processes, to produce de facto standards. The East seems to have the standards down by experience. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Thanks - Glad it rang true for you, Ravi. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:43 PM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** It is interesting how, when Yogananda said this, probably in the 1920's or 30's, it was a big deal in the West to recognize such a thing, 'the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them'. All sorts of psychic stuff, and 'mystery from the East' was starting to break loose. Nowadays, and since the 1970's, everybody in the West recognizes 'vibes'. As far as group meditation goes, it does work in providing a stronger experience for the participants. As if the teachers from the East became necessary, once the West began its headlong rush into technology. Grow a fuller human being, first, before speeding up time and its consequences, beyond anyone's ability to calculate a result. Now their time, The Gurus, as a social force, appears to be over, and it is up to each of us, to make our choices. Bon Voyage! âReally well stated Jim - loved it !!! â Dear Doctor; Om no, there is still room for spiritual revolution. Every 10 or 15 years another articulate transcendentalist will come along. Mysticism always provides the commentary on materialism. Extreme materialism deserves extreme criticism and by nature will bring along greater teachers of mysticism. Eastern mysticism is so much more standardized, studied and disciplined in this area that it becomes a standard by a default compared to the Western mind confused by Maya. We'll continue to see our Western mystic lecturers influenced by the East, like an Emerson was or the more recent giant and modern luminary, Dr. D.R. Hawkins, and even your own writings here. Seems always room for teachers who point the way out for the ignorant. -Buck Dear Buck, Om, I agree. For society to even function there has to be knowledge of Silence, somewhere. But there is no longer the singular focus in the West, on teachers from the East. It was a wave that lasted about twenty five years, in which specific teachers became very popular in this culture. Nowadays, such teachers may still be around, and they will attract their adherents, but the social momentum, in general, is far more diverse. Much of Eastern consciousness has already been integrated into the West. We have gone from a few central figures, to a broad array of sustainable choices. The knowledge that emerged from just a few minds, mouths, and hands, is soaking in.:-) -Jai Guru Dev- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: We become like the people we mingle with, not only through their conversation, but through the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them. When we come into the range of their magnetism we are affected. âParamahansa Yogananda snip
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Generally in Eastern or Western mysticism, Standardization is defined as best technical application consentual wisdom inclusive of processes for selection in making appropriate choices for ratification coupled with consistent decisions for maintaining obtained standards. This view includes the case of spontaneous standardization processes, to produce de facto standards. The East seems to have the standards down by experience. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Thanks - Glad it rang true for you, Ravi. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:43 PM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** It is interesting how, when Yogananda said this, probably in the 1920's or 30's, it was a big deal in the West to recognize such a thing, 'the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them'. All sorts of psychic stuff, and 'mystery from the East' was starting to break loose. Nowadays, and since the 1970's, everybody in the West recognizes 'vibes'. As far as group meditation goes, it does work in providing a stronger experience for the participants. As if the teachers from the East became necessary, once the West began its headlong rush into technology. Grow a fuller human being, first, before speeding up time and its consequences, beyond anyone's ability to calculate a result. Now their time, The Gurus, as a social force, appears to be over, and it is up to each of us, to make our choices. Bon Voyage! âReally well stated Jim - loved it !!! â Dear Doctor; Om no, there is still room for spiritual revolution. Every 10 or 15 years another articulate transcendentalist will come along. Mysticism always provides the commentary on materialism. Extreme materialism deserves extreme criticism and by nature will bring along greater teachers of mysticism. Eastern mysticism is so much more standardized, studied and disciplined in this area that it becomes a standard by a default compared to the Western mind confused by Maya. We'll continue to see our Western mystic lecturers influenced by the East, like an Emerson was or the more recent giant and modern luminary, Dr. D.R. Hawkins, and even your own writings here. Seems always room for teachers who point the way out for the ignorant. -Buck Dear Buck, Om, I agree. For society to even function there has to be knowledge of Silence, somewhere. But there is no longer the singular focus in the West, on teachers from the East. It was a wave that lasted about twenty five years, in which specific teachers became very popular in this culture. Nowadays, such teachers may still be around, and they will attract their adherents, but the social momentum, in general, is far more diverse. Much of Eastern consciousness has already been integrated into the West. We have gone from a few central figures, to a broad array of sustainable choices. The knowledge that emerged from just a few minds, mouths, and hands, is soaking in.:-) -Jai Guru Dev- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: We become like the people we mingle with, not only through their conversation, but through the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them. When we come into the range of their magnetism we are affected. âParamahansa Yogananda snip
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Why shouldn't you strengthen your own vibrations through fellowship with people seeking Self-realization, and by group meditation with them? This practice will fortify your own spiritual convictions; you will find that many seemingly insuperable barriers in your life will crumble and dissolve in the waters of meditation. Your devotion and love for God [The Unified Field] will commingle with the devotion and love of others. Divine bliss will radiate from you, helping all persons you meet. [Meissner Effect]. Paramahansa Yogananda We become like the people we mingle with, not only through their conversation, but through the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them. When we come into the range of their magnetism we are affected. Paramahansa Yogananda MJ, I would bet there are old style silent [what they call un-programmed] Quaker meetings to sit with near you in the South. They are group meditation founded by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism as we would recognize now to be the spiritual Meissner Effect [ME] of meditating in groups. Group meetings to practice the techniques of meditation are vitally important. Group meetings strengthen the individual Self-realization that one has acquired in private at home. Paramahansa Yogananda Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. Well sadly, it is about proper values. Conservative meditator that I am, I should have these lost people at reading the discourses of Brahmananda Saraswati. Really MJ, these people's time should be so much better spent if only just sitting reading the discourses of Brahmananda Saraswati. Studying at: http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ Jai Guru Dev [SBS], -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Great quote on group meditation, the invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. Yes certainly, the spirituality of the Meissner Effect [ME] of meditation in group meditation practice. Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating
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far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through to the finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSl-6aC6GEQ Spoiler: spot Orb to the end! -Buck From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome àDear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM and its leaders, MJ given the science and experience of meditation now I am concerned that you are not in a group meditating. I have noticed that the Yogananda people are open to having people meditate along with them in their group meditations. They can have very powerful group meditations [field effect] that one can sit with when traveling away. Look for SRF on the web. I was just up in Minneapolis and they have a real nice meditation place. Turns out that Yogananda taught there in the 1920's for some time and they have had a group meditation since. They have a silent practice that other meditators can sit in with so long as you are not disturbing
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cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. ��Paramahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through to the finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSl-6aC6GEQ Spoiler: spot Orb to the end! -Buck From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome àDear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM and its leaders, MJ given the science and experience of meditation now I am
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Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. Paramahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through to the finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSl-6aC6GEQ Spoiler: spot Orb to the end! -Buck From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Dear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM and its leaders, MJ given the science and experience of meditation now I am concerned that you are not in a group meditating. I have noticed that the Yogananda people are open to having people meditate along with them in their group meditations. They can have very powerful group meditations [field effect] that one can sit with when traveling away. Look for SRF on the web. I was just up in Minneapolis and they have a real nice meditation place. Turns out that Yogananda taught there in the 1920's for some time and they have had a group meditation since. They have a silent practice that other meditators can sit in with so long as you are not disturbing their practice. Look on the web for a place. SRF group meditations might be a good tip for other notable disaffected meditators here too. Kind Regards, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: and you believed him? What did you expect him to say that they are a bunch of elitist lying thieving crooks? From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome àReally nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death
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I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. —Paramahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through to the finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSl-6aC6GEQ Spoiler: spot Orb to the end! -Buck From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Dear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM and its leaders, MJ given the science and experience of meditation now I am concerned that you are not in a group meditating. I have noticed that the Yogananda people are open to having people meditate along with them in their group meditations. They can have very powerful group meditations [field effect] that one can sit with when traveling away. Look for SRF on the web. I was just up in Minneapolis and they have a real nice meditation place. Turns out that Yogananda taught there in the 1920's for some time and they have had a group meditation since. They have a silent practice that other meditators can sit in with so long as you are not disturbing their practice. Look on the web for a place. SRF group meditations might be a good tip for other notable disaffected meditators here too. Kind
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The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. ...though tickling him, until he giggled uncontrollably, would still be acceptable. Great image!!! Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. **though tickling him until he giggled uncontrollably, would still be acceptable. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through to the finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSl-6aC6GEQ Spoiler: spot Orb to the end! -Buck From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome àDear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM and its leaders, MJ given the science and experience of meditation now I am concerned that you are not in a group meditating. I have noticed that the Yogananda people are open to having people meditate along
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through to the finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSl-6aC6GEQ Spoiler: spot Orb to the end! -Buck From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome àDear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM
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An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. Buck you are kidding, surely! From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. â€Paramahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through
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Great quote on group meditation, the invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. Yes certainly, the spirituality of the Meissner Effect [ME] of meditation in group meditation practice. Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However
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Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. Well sadly, it is about proper values. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Great quote on group meditation, the invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. Yes certainly, the spirituality of the Meissner Effect [ME] of meditation in group meditation practice. Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump
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Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. Well sadly, it is about proper values. Conservative meditator that I am, I should have these lost people at reading the discourses of Brahmananda Saraswati. Really MJ, these people's time should be so much better spent if only just sitting reading the discourses of Brahmananda Saraswati. Studying at: http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ Jai Guru Dev [SBS], -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Great quote on group meditation, the invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. Yes certainly, the spirituality of the Meissner Effect [ME] of meditation in group meditation practice. Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs
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Group meetings to practice the techniques of meditation are vitally important. Group meetings strengthen the individual Self-realization that one has acquired in private at home. Paramahansa Yogananda Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. Well sadly, it is about proper values. Conservative meditator that I am, I should have these lost people at reading the discourses of Brahmananda Saraswati. Really MJ, these people's time should be so much better spent if only just sitting reading the discourses of Brahmananda Saraswati. Studying at: http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ Jai Guru Dev [SBS], -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Great quote on group meditation, the invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. Yes certainly, the spirituality of the Meissner Effect [ME] of meditation in group meditation practice. Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications
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MJ, I would bet there are old style silent [what they call un-programmed] Quaker meetings to sit with near you in the South. They are group meditation founded by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism as we would recognize now to be the spiritual Meissner Effect [ME] of meditating in groups. Group meetings to practice the techniques of meditation are vitally important. Group meetings strengthen the individual Self-realization that one has acquired in private at home. Paramahansa Yogananda Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. Well sadly, it is about proper values. Conservative meditator that I am, I should have these lost people at reading the discourses of Brahmananda Saraswati. Really MJ, these people's time should be so much better spent if only just sitting reading the discourses of Brahmananda Saraswati. Studying at: http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ Jai Guru Dev [SBS], -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Great quote on group meditation, the invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. Yes certainly, the spirituality of the Meissner Effect [ME] of meditation in group meditation practice. Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda
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We become like the people we mingle with, not only through their conversation, but through the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them. When we come into the range of their magnetism we are affected. Paramahansa Yogananda MJ, I would bet there are old style silent [what they call un-programmed] Quaker meetings to sit with near you in the South. They are group meditation founded by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism as we would recognize now to be the spiritual Meissner Effect [ME] of meditating in groups. Group meetings to practice the techniques of meditation are vitally important. Group meetings strengthen the individual Self-realization that one has acquired in private at home. Paramahansa Yogananda Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. Well sadly, it is about proper values. Conservative meditator that I am, I should have these lost people at reading the discourses of Brahmananda Saraswati. Really MJ, these people's time should be so much better spent if only just sitting reading the discourses of Brahmananda Saraswati. Studying at: http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ Jai Guru Dev [SBS], -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Great quote on group meditation, the invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. Yes certainly, the spirituality of the Meissner Effect [ME] of meditation in group meditation practice. Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming over to him while he was resting after the flying to ask him questions was ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making crop circles, but so far no luck. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. âParamahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am
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It is interesting how, when Yogananda said this, probably in the 1920's or 30's, it was a big deal in the West to recognize such a thing, 'the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them'. All sorts of psychic stuff, and 'mystery from the East' was starting to break loose. Nowadays, and since the 1970's, everybody in the West recognizes 'vibes'. As far as group meditation goes, it does work in providing a stronger experience for the participants. As if the teachers from the East became necessary, once the West began its headlong rush into technology. Grow a fuller human being, first, before speeding up time and its consequences, beyond anyone's ability to calculate a result. Now their time, The Gurus, as a social force, appears to be over, and it is up to each of us, to make our choices. Bon Voyage! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: We become like the people we mingle with, not only through their conversation, but through the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them. When we come into the range of their magnetism we are affected. Paramahansa Yogananda snip
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On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:43 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** It is interesting how, when Yogananda said this, probably in the 1920's or 30's, it was a big deal in the West to recognize such a thing, 'the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them'. All sorts of psychic stuff, and 'mystery from the East' was starting to break loose. Nowadays, and since the 1970's, everybody in the West recognizes 'vibes'. As far as group meditation goes, it does work in providing a stronger experience for the participants. As if the teachers from the East became necessary, once the West began its headlong rush into technology. Grow a fuller human being, first, before speeding up time and its consequences, beyond anyone's ability to calculate a result. Now their time, The Gurus, as a social force, appears to be over, and it is up to each of us, to make our choices. Bon Voyage! Really well stated Jim - loved it !!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: We become like the people we mingle with, not only through their conversation, but through the silent magnetic vibration that emanates from them. When we come into the range of their magnetism we are affected. —Paramahansa Yogananda snip
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As Judy would say: guffaw or horse laugh. As Emily would say: tee hee. As I would say: ha ha. As Richard would say: go figure! From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: You're right, Dan. Buck is making a mountain out of a mole hill. I got two people on the list who wanted to go with me to Guru Purnima. No problem. One phone call, two people, two minutes. It's understandable why you'd now want to take a couple of bodyguards with you to the dome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote: The Announcement actually read: *If you or a family member does not have a current program badge, please telephone the Invincible America Department (472-1212) in the afternoon or send an email to iadept@ mailto:iadept@ x-msg://1011/toiadept@ to ask that you be added to the Guru Purnima list. This list will be available at the entry door of the Dome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Really nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death [2008]. The movement is doing quite well in modern retrofit. You all should take another look at http://www.tm.org/about-usTM.org.TM is on a comeback and that is very exciting regardless of any of the past controversies. Moving forward, -Buck in the Dome Very nice, thanks for the report Buck :-) Yup the meeting invitation was quite so emblematic of the two long-term elements of TM, progressives as practitioners who in good faith would like to see it work out and then the more strict faith-based preservationists who want to test people against their faith. Inclusive v exclusive. The interesting thing is that evidently by this invitation and the usual 'fuck ewe' ending there has been no effective change of balance at the top about this. The hardline or strict preservationists seem still have a stronger hand than the progressives. The interesting thing is that there has not been a change of feeling about this at the top on the Bevan side. This is not new. -Buck Yep not new. This elemental split in TM shows back even in the beginning posts on FFL.
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Dear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM and its leaders, MJ given the science and experience of meditation now I am concerned that you are not in a group meditating. I have noticed that the Yogananda people are open to having people meditate along with them in their group meditations. They can have very powerful group meditations [field effect] that one can sit with when traveling away. Look for SRF on the web. I was just up in Minneapolis and they have a real nice meditation place. Turns out that Yogananda taught there in the 1920's for some time and they have had a group meditation since. They have a silent practice that other meditators can sit in with so long as you are not disturbing their practice. Look on the web for a place. SRF group meditations might be a good tip for other notable disaffected meditators here too. Kind Regards, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: and you believed him? What did you expect him to say that they are a bunch of elitist lying thieving crooks? From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Really nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death [2008]. The movement is doing quite well in modern retrofit. You all should take another look at http://www.tm.org/about-us TM.org.TM is on a comeback and that is very exciting regardless of any of the past controversies. Moving forward, -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are 100% right on this, Buck. Guru Purnima should be open to all. I don't know what their problem is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Reconciliation with its meditators?? The leadership has lost itself once again. Incredible. This is a no-brainier, there are two easy days to invite people in on and Guru Purnima is one of them. Instead the leadership wants to split and be contentious with people? It is badly incredible that at a time they are wanting for people they hold out for an exclusivity over this! Shame on them. They seem determined to bury the old meditating movement in the exclusivity of their own fealty testing. This could have been one of the easiest meetings to host in the Domes for everyone and anyone wanting to celebrate Maharishi, meditating, or the work of the movement. They have failed once again. TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome Dear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM and its leaders, MJ given the science and experience of meditation now I am concerned that you are not in a group meditating. I have noticed that the Yogananda people are open to having people meditate along with them in their group meditations. They can have very powerful group meditations [field effect] that one can sit with when traveling away. Look for SRF on the web. I was just up in Minneapolis and they have a real nice meditation place. Turns out that Yogananda taught there in the 1920's for some time and they have had a group meditation since. They have a silent practice that other meditators can sit in with so long as you are not disturbing their practice. Look on the web for a place. SRF group meditations might be a good tip for other notable disaffected meditators here too. Kind Regards, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: and you believed him? What did you expect him to say that they are a bunch of elitist lying thieving crooks? From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Really nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death [2008]. The movement is doing quite well in modern retrofit. You all should take another look at http://www.tm.org/about-us TM.org.TM is on a comeback and that is very exciting regardless of any of the past controversies. Moving forward, -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are 100% right on this, Buck. Guru Purnima should be open to all. I don't know what their problem is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Reconciliation with its meditators?? The leadership has lost itself once again. Incredible. This is a no-brainier, there are two easy days to invite people in on and Guru Purnima is one of them. Instead the leadership wants to split and be contentious with people? It is badly incredible that at a time they are wanting for people they hold out for an exclusivity over this! Shame on them. They seem determined to bury the old meditating movement in the exclusivity of their own fealty testing. This could have been one of the easiest meetings to host in the Domes for everyone and anyone wanting to celebrate Maharishi, meditating, or the work of the movement. They have failed once again. TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: ...until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? OK, I have to ask. That's a wonderfully odd metaphor, one that I neither heard during my years in Morocco, nor can find on Google. Where's it from?
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Supposedly it is an Arab, possibly Turkish legend or tradition, that when death approaches, it takes the form of a Black Camel, the fact that it kneels is indicative of the fact that it is about to take on its burden or rider, carrying the soul to wherever. http://theoldproverbialrecovery.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/death-is-a-black-camel-which-kneels-at-every-mans-gate-turkish-the-camel-kneels-to-receive-its-burden-here-death-is-represented-as-a-camel-that-is-sure-at-some-time-to-stop-before-every-mans/ There was also a Charley Chan novel called The Black Camel Death is a black camel that kneels unbidden at every gate. Tonight black camel has knelt here, Chan tells the suspects. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: ...until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? OK, I have to ask. That's a wonderfully odd metaphor, one that I neither heard during my years in Morocco, nor can find on Google. Where's it from?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on this. All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through to the finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSl-6aC6GEQ Spoiler: spot Orb to the end! -Buck From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome  Dear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM and its leaders, MJ given the science and experience of meditation now I am concerned that you are not in a group meditating. I have noticed that the Yogananda people are open to having people meditate along with them in their group meditations. They can have very powerful group meditations [field effect] that one can sit with when traveling away. Look for SRF on the web. I was just up in Minneapolis and they have a real nice meditation place. Turns out that Yogananda taught there in the 1920's for some time and they have had a group meditation since. They have a silent practice that other meditators can sit in with so long as you are not disturbing their practice. Look on the web for a place. SRF group meditations might be a good tip for other notable disaffected meditators here too. Kind Regards, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: and you believed him? What did you expect him to say that they are a bunch of elitist lying thieving crooks? From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome àReally nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death [2008]. The movement is doing quite well in modern retrofit. You all should take another look at http://www.tm.org/about-us TM.org.TM is on a comeback and that is very exciting regardless of any of the past controversies. Moving forward, -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are 100% right on this, Buck. Guru Purnima should
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Really nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death [2008]. The movement is doing quite well in modern retrofit. You all should take another look at http://www.tm.org/about-usTM.org.TM is on a comeback and that is very exciting regardless of any of the past controversies. Moving forward, -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: You are 100% right on this, Buck. Guru Purnima should be open to all. I don't know what their problem is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Reconciliation with its meditators?? The leadership has lost itself once again. Incredible. This is a no-brainier, there are two easy days to invite people in on and Guru Purnima is one of them. Instead the leadership wants to split and be contentious with people? It is badly incredible that at a time they are wanting for people they hold out for an exclusivity over this! Shame on them. They seem determined to bury the old meditating movement in the exclusivity of their own fealty testing. This could have been one of the easiest meetings to host in the Domes for everyone and anyone wanting to celebrate Maharishi, meditating, or the work of the movement. They have failed once again. TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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and you believed him? What did you expect him to say that they are a bunch of elitist lying thieving crooks? From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome Really nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death [2008]. The movement is doing quite well in modern retrofit. You all should take another look at http://www.tm.org/about-us TM.org.TM is on a comeback and that is very exciting regardless of any of the past controversies. Moving forward, -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: You are 100% right on this, Buck. Guru Purnima should be open to all. I don't know what their problem is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Reconciliation with its meditators?? The leadership has lost itself once again. Incredible. This is a no-brainier, there are two easy days to invite people in on and Guru Purnima is one of them. Instead the leadership wants to split and be contentious with people? It is badly incredible that at a time they are wanting for people they hold out for an exclusivity over this! Shame on them. They seem determined to bury the old meditating movement in the exclusivity of their own fealty testing. This could have been one of the easiest meetings to host in the Domes for everyone and anyone wanting to celebrate Maharishi, meditating, or the work of the movement. They have failed once again. TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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You are 100% right on this, Buck. Guru Purnima should be open to all. I don't know what their problem is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Reconciliation with its meditators?? The leadership has lost itself once again. Incredible. This is a no-brainier, there are two easy days to invite people in on and Guru Purnima is one of them. Instead the leadership wants to split and be contentious with people? It is badly incredible that at a time they are wanting for people they hold out for an exclusivity over this! Shame on them. They seem determined to bury the old meditating movement in the exclusivity of their own fealty testing. This could have been one of the easiest meetings to host in the Domes for everyone and anyone wanting to celebrate Maharishi, meditating, or the work of the movement. They have failed once again. TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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It actually said, are warm invited? What's with the English here? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@... wrote: The Announcement actually read: *If you or a family member does not have a current program badge, please telephone the Invincible America Department (472-1212) in the afternoon or send an email to iadept@ mailto:iadept@... x-msg://1011/toiadept@ to ask that you be added to the Guru Purnima list. This list will be available at the entry door of the Dome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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You're right, Dan. Buck is making a mountain out of a mole hill. I got two people on the list who wanted to go with me to Guru Purnima. No problem. One phone call, two people, two minutes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@... wrote: The Announcement actually read: *If you or a family member does not have a current program badge, please telephone the Invincible America Department (472-1212) in the afternoon or send an email to iadept@ mailto:iadept@... x-msg://1011/toiadept@ to ask that you be added to the Guru Purnima list. This list will be available at the entry door of the Dome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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There needs to be an ly at the end of warm; that's what's wrong with the English. I hope this helped. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: It actually said, are warm invited? What's with the English here? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote: The Announcement actually read: *If you or a family member does not have a current program badge, please telephone the Invincible America Department (472-1212) in the afternoon or send an email to iadept@ mailto:iadept@ x-msg://1011/toiadept@ to ask that you be added to the Guru Purnima list. This list will be available at the entry door of the Dome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: You're right, Dan. Buck is making a mountain out of a mole hill. I got two people on the list who wanted to go with me to Guru Purnima. No problem. One phone call, two people, two minutes. It's understandable why you'd now want to take a couple of bodyguards with you to the dome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote: The Announcement actually read: *If you or a family member does not have a current program badge, please telephone the Invincible America Department (472-1212) in the afternoon or send an email to iadept@ mailto:iadept@ x-msg://1011/toiadept@ to ask that you be added to the Guru Purnima list. This list will be available at the entry door of the Dome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Really nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death [2008]. The movement is doing quite well in modern retrofit. You all should take another look at http://www.tm.org/about-us TM.org.TM is on a comeback and that is very exciting regardless of any of the past controversies. Moving forward, -Buck in the Dome Very nice, thanks for the report Buck :-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: You're right, Dan. Buck is making a mountain out of a mole hill. I got two people on the list who wanted to go with me to Guru Purnima. No problem. One phone call, two people, two minutes. It's understandable why you'd now want to take a couple of bodyguards with you to the dome. http://youtu.be/ilrQg_0hvDY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote: The Announcement actually read: *If you or a family member does not have a current program badge, please telephone the Invincible America Department (472-1212) in the afternoon or send an email to iadept@ mailto:iadept@ x-msg://1011/toiadept@ to ask that you be added to the Guru Purnima list. This list will be available at the entry door of the Dome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Really nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death [2008]. The movement is doing quite well in modern retrofit. You all should take another look at http://www.tm.org/about-usTM.org.TM is on a comeback and that is very exciting regardless of any of the past controversies. Moving forward, -Buck in the Dome Very nice, thanks for the report Buck :-) Yup the meeting invitation was quite so emblematic of the two long-term elements of TM, progressives as practitioners who in good faith would like to see it work out and then the more strict faith-based preservationists who want to test people against their faith. Inclusive v exclusive. The interesting thing is that evidently by this invitation and the usual 'fuck ewe' ending there has been no effective change of balance at the top about this. The hardline or strict preservationists seem still have a stronger hand than the progressives. The interesting thing is that there has not been a change of feeling about this at the top on the Bevan side. This is not new. -Buck
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mjackson74: What did you expect him to say that they are a bunch of elitist lying thieving crooks? So, you're thinking that a bunch of elitist lying thieving crooks can't participate in Guru Purnima? Go figure. Really nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death [2008]. The movement is doing quite well in modern retrofit. You all should take another look at http://www.tm.org/about-us TM.org.TM is on a comeback and that is very exciting regardless of any of the past controversies. Moving forward, -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are 100% right on this, Buck. Guru Purnima should be open to all. I don't know what their problem is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Reconciliation with its meditators?? The leadership has lost itself once again. Incredible. This is a no-brainier, there are two easy days to invite people in on and Guru Purnima is one of them. Instead the leadership wants to split and be contentious with people? It is badly incredible that at a time they are wanting for people they hold out for an exclusivity over this! Shame on them. They seem determined to bury the old meditating movement in the exclusivity of their own fealty testing. This could have been one of the easiest meetings to host in the Domes for everyone and anyone wanting to celebrate Maharishi, meditating, or the work of the movement. They have failed once again. TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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Reconciliation with its meditators?? The leadership has lost itself once again. Incredible. This is a no-brainier, there are two easy days to invite people in on and Guru Purnima is one of them. Instead the leadership wants to split and be contentious with people? It is badly incredible that at a time they are wanting for people they hold out for an exclusivity over this! Shame on them. They seem determined to bury the old meditating movement in the exclusivity of their own fealty testing. This could have been one of the easiest meetings to host in the Domes for everyone and anyone wanting to celebrate Maharishi, meditating, or the work of the movement. They have failed once again. TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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The Announcement actually read: *If you or a family member does not have a current program badge, please telephone the Invincible America Department (472-1212) in the afternoon or send an email to iadept@... mailto:iad...@mum.edu x-msg://1011/toiadept@... to ask that you be added to the Guru Purnima list. This list will be available at the entry door of the Dome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
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Why are you surprised at this Buck? After all these years you expect them to change? If you would just accept that their agenda has NEVER been high Dome numbers, but rather an obedient, pliable preferable affluent and willingly generous to the TM Movement group of followers you will be better off and save yourself a bunch of stress. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome Reconciliation with its meditators?? The leadership has lost itself once again. Incredible. This is a no-brainier, there are two easy days to invite people in on and Guru Purnima is one of them. Instead the leadership wants to split and be contentious with people? It is badly incredible that at a time they are wanting for people they hold out for an exclusivity over this! Shame on them. They seem determined to bury the old meditating movement in the exclusivity of their own fealty testing. This could have been one of the easiest meetings to host in the Domes for everyone and anyone wanting to celebrate Maharishi, meditating, or the work of the movement. They have failed once again. TM Guru Purnima; All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please bring your current program badge* http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg
