[FairfieldLife] Re: OffWorld annhilates Vaj and Cardemeister---------was/// TM puja is religious

2009-01-31 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@...
wrote:
 I can't believe you are still quoting Monier-Williams.
 Do you realize that quoting Monier-Williams is like quoting the Bible as
 fact.
 
 Apachiti = The movement that is the waters that protect from abuse
 and disease

Taijat olla huumormiehii? : )

Yeah, right!

 Forceps = Power Post Script.
Window = be victorious on the stock market!

Troll over, Beethoven! LOL!
 

 
 OffWorld
 
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: OffWorld annhilates Vaj and Cardemeister---------was/// TM puja is religious

2009-01-30 Thread Vaj


On Jan 29, 2009, at 10:24 PM, off_world_beings wrote:


 It's interesting because if I'm reading you right, 

No, you are not reading me right, as you conjectured above. You are  
reading me with the brain of a religiously brainwashed and  
completely cultist mindset.


Well kinda. I'm LISTENING to the brain of a religiously brainwashed  
and completely cultist mindset: you! Interesting how you try to push  
your projection of yourself onto me. Makes me think at some level,  
you know you are this way.



I translated it clearly as The beginning of the life of cleansing


Kinda like a Vedic John the Baptist! I love it. Thanks Off!



That is its meaning.


No that's your twisting of it's meaning through your attempt at  
nirukta. A clearer examination of the TM puja reveals it's real  
nature. Perhaps when I have more posts we can go over it so it'll be  
clear to you the nature of this religious ritual and what it really,  
truly is. In any event we already have a first rate Hindu scholar in  
line for the McCartney concert, who will be explaining the true  
nature of the puja. Stay tuned. :-)


This is a practical thing, but your religious fervor made you see a  
snake when only a twig was there. It is very embarrassing for you  
how you make such blunders again and again based on your religious  
brainwashing. It is IDENTICAL to the way the Neocons and Republican  
talk show hosts act. They do not see what is written, but  
superimpose their distorted worldview over it.


How ironic. You are destined to be a Neocon at this rate Vaj.

PuJa means 'the beginning of the purifying life' This is not a  
religious term, and you have tied yourself in knots again, proving  
only that you are a fanatic, so brainwashed by your religeous  
upbringing that you cannot see the woods for the trees. Lol, what  
an idiotic interpretation you made !




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: OffWorld annhilates Vaj and Cardemeister---------was/// TM puja is religious

2009-01-30 Thread Kirk


PuJa means 'the beginning of the purifying life' This is not a religious term, 
and you have tied yourself in knots again, proving only that you are a fanatic, 
so brainwashed by your religeous upbringing that you cannot see the woods for 
the trees. Lol, what an idiotic interpretation you made !


---I personally recognize in this sort of voice something of religious 
persecution mentality and/or parenting issues. I recognize these issues since I 
have them, as a modicum for understanding at least. I am guessing that 
Nondualism can have a value in behaviour and personality understanding or else 
it wouldn't be a cross cultural medium. Essentially the medium is the message.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: OffWorld annhilates Vaj and Cardemeister---------was/// TM puja is religious

2009-01-30 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@...
wrote:

 

 
 
 Cardemeister you  just tie yourself in knots with your misunderstanding
 of Sanskrit and Indo-European. You are all still working with outdated
 19th century etymology. What a joke !
 

Ever heard of Amarakosha?

http://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_z_misc_amarakosha.html


(2\.6\.880)  puujaa namasyaapachitiH saparyaarchaarhaNaaH samaaH

Attempt at sandhi-vigraha:

puujaa namasya apachitiH saparyaa+archaa+arhaNaaH samaaH

The word 'samaaH' above prolly means that 'apachiti', etc.
are synonymous with 'puujaa'.

Monier-Williams:

apac[h]iti  1 f. honouring , reverence S3is3.

saparyA f. (also pl.) worship , homage , adoration

arc[h]A f. (Pa1n2. 2-3 , 43 and 2 , 101) worship , adoration S3Br. xi
Mn. c.

arhaNa  mfn. having a claim to , being entitled to (in comp.) BhP. ;
(%{am}) n. deserving , meriting Pa1n2. 3-3 , 111 , worship , honour ,
treating any one (gen.) with respect Mn. iii , 54 BhP.



[FairfieldLife] Re: OffWorld annhilates Vaj and Cardemeister---------was/// TM puja is religious

2009-01-30 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , cardemaister no_re...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
 

  
 
  Cardemeister you  just tie yourself in knots with your
misunderstanding
  of Sanskrit and Indo-European. You are all still working with
outdated
  19th century etymology. What a joke !
 

 Ever heard of Amarakosha?

 http://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_z_misc_amarakosha.html
http://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_z_misc_amarakosha.html


 (2\.6\.880)  puujaa namasyaapachitiH saparyaarchaarhaNaaH samaaH

 Attempt at sandhi-vigraha:

 puujaa namasya apachitiH saparyaa+archaa+arhaNaaH samaaH

 The word 'samaaH' above prolly means that 'apachiti', etc.
 are synonymous with 'puujaa'.

 Monier-Williams:


I can't believe you are still quoting Monier-Williams.
Do you realize that quoting Monier-Williams is like quoting the Bible as
fact.

Apachiti = The movement that is the waters that protect from abuse
and disease

OffWorld



 apac[h]iti  1 f. honouring , reverence S3is3.

 saparyA  f. (also pl.) worship , homage , adoration

 arc[h]A  f. (Pa1n2. 2-3 , 43 and 2 , 101) worship , adoration S3Br. xi
 Mn. c.

 arhaNa  mfn. having a claim to , being entitled to (in comp.) BhP. ;
 (%{am}) n. deserving , meriting Pa1n2. 3-3 , 111 , worship , honour ,
 treating any one (gen.) with respect Mn. iii , 54 BhP.





[FairfieldLife] Re: OffWorld annhilates Vaj and Cardemeister---------was/// TM puja is religious

2009-01-30 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Kirk kirk_bernha...@...
wrote:



 PuJa means 'the beginning of the purifying life' This is not a
religious term, and you have tied yourself in knots again, proving only
that you are a fanatic, so brainwashed by your religeous upbringing that
you cannot see the woods for the trees. Lol, what an idiotic
interpretation you made !


 ---I personally recognize in this sort of voice something of
religious persecution mentality and/or parenting issues.

No, that would be your paranoia speaking.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: OffWorld annhilates Vaj and Cardemeister---------was/// TM puja is religious

2009-01-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:


 On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:01 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@
  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
  no_reply@
 wrote:
 
 
  The word 'puja' either means 'preparing for purifying', or
  'the
birth
  (begining) of the purifying life' . That is its ACTUAL
  meaning.
 
  OffWorld
 
 

 Sorry Off, but I think that's a bit like claiming, for
instance,
 that 'purpose' is equivalent to 'poor pose'
   
You need to check your sanskrit.
'Pu' is 'purifying'; cleansing.
'Ja' is 'born' or 'beginning'.
   
OffWorld
   
  
   ROTFLMFFLOFFOLLOWMAOi!  ;D
  
 
  Cardemeister you  just tie yourself in knots with your
  misunderstanding of Sanskrit and Indo-European. You are all still
  working with outdated 19th century etymology. What a joke !
 
   You and Vaj are completely boxed in and cannot get around it.
 
  *pu- clean
 
  VMPSIE
pu:-to clean Sanskrit
pu:rus  pure Latin
pu:ta   cleaned  Sanskrit
pu:ti   cleaning Sanskrit
p�tih   whiteMalay
putih   whiteJavanese
futsi, futchi   whiteMadagascar
maputi  whiteTagalog
ma-pute whiteBuginese
 
  UEL 23, 24, 25:
*pewH-  clean, purifyProto-
  IndoEuropean
  + nominalising *-eno-
*pewH-eno-
Proto-IndoEuopean
p�vana (n.) sieveSanskrit
   (n., m.) cleaning (by threshing)  Sanskrit
pavana   id.   Pali
pona: (m.)  perforated iron ladle for
 skimming or strainingHindi
 
  loaned into
 
*pe(w)s^enVProto-Permian
puz^, p�z^  sieveVotyak
puz^ni_ sift Votyak
poz^sieveZyryan
po,z^   sieveZyryan
(SE-dial.)
puz^sieveZyryan (East
  Permian)
poz^n-al-   sift Zyryan
 
o-grade + causative suffix *-eye/o-
*owH-eye/o-Proto-
  IndoEuropean
*fauja Proto-Germanic
fewen (fouwen)  sift (cereal), clean Old High German
v�uwen   id.   Middle
High
  German
fe.ibm, veben   sift German dial.
  (Tyrol.)
f�ensift finely (cereal), winnow German
dial.
  (Styrian)
pay�vaticleans, purifies Sanskrit
 
  loaned into
 
*pows^e-   Early Proto-
  Finnic
  + causative suffix *-ta-
*pows^ta 
*pos^taProto-Finnic
pohta
(inf. pohtoa)   winnow   Finnish
  
pohti-  consider Finnish
puohtua (inf.)  winnow   Carelian
pohtta  (inf.)   id.   Vepsian
pohta:  (inf.)   id.   Votic
  ma-inf.
pohetama,
puhetama id.   Estonian dial.
 
 
*pu-ne-H-,
*pu-n-H- (v.)  Proto-
  IndoEuropean
*pu-ne-H-ti 
pun�ti  he cleans, winnows   Sanskrit
*pu-n-H-mes 
puni:m�h.   we clean, winnow Sanskrit
*pu-n-H-enti 
pun�nti they clean, winnow   Sanskrit
puna:ti cleans, siftsPa:li
pun.a�  cleans, winnows  Pra:krit
 
  loaned into
 
*pons^e-   BalticFinnic-
  Mordvin
  + Mordvin causative suffix -vt(o)- (Ersa)
ponz^avto-  winnow (cereal)  Mordvin (Ersa)
  + Mordvin causative suffix -ft(^)- (Moks^a)
pon�dz^aft^-   winnow (cereal)  Mordvin
(Moks^a)
 
zero-grade + participal *-to-
*puH-to-s  Proto-
  IndoEuropean
pu:t�-h.cleaned, purifiedSanskrit
 
  loaned into
 
*pus^tas   Proto-Finnic
  common