[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: Guessing again: It's possible she was embarrassed about having a non-TMer boyfriend (see above), and before you met them, she had done some kind of number on them that made them feel self-conscious and awkward around you. I mean, she really does sound like kind of a fruitcake, bless her heart. I'll bet you a buck that if she had been involved with something else, the same nuttiness would have come out in that context. But you know what? You sound like you're becoming as obsessed with TM as she is. You seem to be more interested in dishing dirt on TM and MMY than in figuring out if there's anything you can do to help her. I think that's why some of us are a bit skeptical about your real agenda here (and it's not just TMers who are skeptical). Of course you are right Judy,,,I became and still am admittedly bitter surrounding the whole TMO MMY thing. I can't deny that. The truth is I really did like a number of her TM friends. They seemed sweet and gentle. It is one of the reasons I have been searching for answers. This was a nice response from you,,, thank you. Bill ps I know we've bantered back and forth I hope I haven't offended you to much. I will be leaving the board shortly. keep well. Hi Bill- one thing to keep in mind regarding TM is that you can do it and still lead a sane and balanced life. It does sound to me like your ex would've become sold out to almost anything- depends on the person's need I guess. Thanks for visiting! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So can anyone tell me, regarding the question of Earl Kaplan. Is he a real person and was this a letter written by him? Did he contribute Millions of dollars to Maharishi and the TMO? How many millions and over what time frame? Did he know Maharishi personally? Could any some or all of he story be true? SOME of his his claims are almost certainly true, some are almost cerainly only partly true, some are almost certainly false. They've been rumored for 50 years, so all that happened was that he got upset with MMY and the TMO and started believing and repeating every rumor. Or you you only interested in my testosterone levels and who pays me. P.S. He let me add my own twist for you to debatepssst maybe I'm really with the IRS. Ah Sweet Mother of God the paranoia. Everyone knows that MMY has been a compensated spokesguru for the IRS anyway... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was sitting around my X's living room once. We had be talking about her meeting with some TM'rs to do their program together. It was going to mess up our plans for part of the day. So I suggested I just come along and read a book or something while they went off and did there thing. I didn't think it was a big deal. I was told no absolutely not. I asked why not what's the big secret? She said something like, they discuss different things that non TM'rs just can't know about. And then made a reference to the CIA and the FBI. I thought, wow, how bizarre and paranoid a comment to make. Is this girl wierd or what. We had only been dating awhile and I let it side. During the course of the last few months I have wondered more and more whether she was mentally ill or if part of her problem was brain washing from the organisation she belonged to. Funny how things happen and now here I am posting on FFL and have become the source of debate wondering if I might secretly be this other person and references to CIA and whose payroll I might be on. I did like the Satan reference though and have always considered myself to be a little devilish at times. Even when I did meet with some of her friends from the movement, there just seemed to be this vague whisp of mis-trust in the air. Kind of like, oh he's an outsider. He's not one of us attitude. And since I've always been an out going open minded and kind hearted do anything for you type I found the behaviour dis-heartening and mildly hurtful. Afterall, why would such spiritual people treat me of all guys with contempt. A man who enjoys a very deep and loving connection with God and sees All humanity, life and existance for that matter as part of a single conscious being. I am beginning to understand now, thanks in part to some folks here and their responses to my queiries. I've always felt the truth to the mysteries of what is incorporates both the sciences of existance and the love and wisdoms of a divine consciousness. In addition to searching for answers regarding why my X GF was the way she is I had also hope that perhaps I'd pick up a tid bit or two of something new that I could use to enhence my own spiritual journey. Clearly that will not be the case from the TM'rs I have encountered here. Fear, insecurities and paranoia fill your minds and perhaps even your hearts. How sad I feel for you,,,how sad I feel for my X GF. How do you get to be this way??? So can anyone tell me, regarding the question of Earl Kaplan. Is he a real person and was this a letter written by him? Did he contribute Millions of dollars to Maharishi and the TMO? How many millions and over what time frame? Did he know Maharishi personally? Could any some or all of he story be true? Or you you only interested in my testosterone levels and who pays me. P.S. He let me add my own twist for you to debatepssst maybe I'm really with the IRS. Ah Sweet Mother of God the paranoia. unclewas You are quite good at posing as the friendly neighbour, but you are not good at posing as someone who is telling the truth about yourself, your family or the TM-movement. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: I was sitting around my X's living room once. We had be talking about her meeting with some TM'rs to do their program together. It was going to mess up our plans for part of the day. So I suggested I just come along and read a book or something while they went off and did there thing. I didn't think it was a big deal. I was told no absolutely not. I asked why not what's the big secret? She said something like, they discuss different things that non TM'rs just can't know about. And then made a reference to the CIA and the FBI. I thought, wow, how bizarre and paranoid a comment to make. Is this girl wierd or what. We had only been dating awhile and I let it side. During the course of the last few months I have wondered more and more whether she was mentally ill or if part of her problem was brain washing from the organisation she belonged to. Funny how things happen and now here I am posting on FFL and have become the source of debate wondering if I might secretly be this other person and references to CIA and whose payroll I might be on. I did like the Satan reference though and have always considered myself to be a little devilish at times. Even when I did meet with some of her friends from the movement, there just seemed to be this vague whisp of mis-trust in the air. Kind of like, oh he's an outsider. He's not one of us attitude. And since I've always been an out going open minded and kind hearted do anything for you type I found the behaviour dis-heartening and mildly hurtful. Afterall, why would such spiritual people treat me of all guys with contempt. A man who enjoys a very deep and loving connection with God and sees All humanity, life and existance for that matter as part of a single conscious being. I am beginning to understand now, thanks in part to some folks here and their responses to my queiries. I've always felt the truth to the mysteries of what is incorporates both the sciences of existance and the love and wisdoms of a divine consciousness. In addition to searching for answers regarding why my X GF was the way she is I had also hope that perhaps I'd pick up a tid bit or two of something new that I could use to enhence my own spiritual journey. Clearly that will not be the case from the TM'rs I have encountered here. Fear, insecurities and paranoia fill your minds and perhaps even your hearts. How sad I feel for you,,,how sad I feel for my X GF. How do you get to be this way??? So can anyone tell me, regarding the question of Earl Kaplan. Is he a real person and was this a letter written by him? Did he contribute Millions of dollars to Maharishi and the TMO? How many millions and over what time frame? Did he know Maharishi personally? Could any some or all of he story be true? Or you you only interested in my testosterone levels and who pays me. P.S. He let me add my own twist for you to debatepssst maybe I'm really with the IRS. Ah Sweet Mother of God the paranoia. unclewas You are quite good at posing as the friendly neighbour, but you are not good at posing as someone who is telling the truth about yourself, your family or the TM-movement. ...and what difference would that make, you paranoid nutcase? Suppose for one minute that he was NOT telling the truth about himself or his family and that he was posing as someone who he is not? Would that negate any of the points he makes? Does that prevent you from addressing his concerns? Even if he made up all that stuff about his ex girlfriend, haven't we all met at least one person who is like that? I know I have. By the way, nablus, I don't think you're too far off from the description he gives of his girlfriend, what with your talk about attempts on MMY's life and conspiracies against the TMO. Maybe YOU'RE the one who is posing...maybe YOU'RE his ex- girlfriend... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was sitting around my X's living room once. We had be talking about her meeting with some TM'rs to do their program together. It was going to mess up our plans for part of the day. So I suggested I just come along and read a book or something while they went off and did there thing. I didn't think it was a big deal. I was told no absolutely not. I asked why not what's the big secret? She said something like, they discuss different things that non TM'rs just can't know about. And then made a reference to the CIA and the FBI. I thought, wow, how bizarre and paranoid a comment to make. Is this girl wierd or what. We had only been dating awhile and I let it side. During the course of the last few months I have wondered more and more whether she was mentally ill or if part of her problem was brain washing from the organisation she belonged to. FWIW, I've never encountered anything like that. TM-Sidhis practitioners probably wouldn't want to let you watch them do their program--or maybe be in a room close enough to hear them doing it; sometimes it gets noisy--but the CIA/FBI business is just off the wall. When TMers do program together, discussing TM secrets isn't usually part of the occasion anyway, at least in my experience. I'm guessing at that point she was nervous about having you meet her TM friends (or having them meet you), and that was just an excuse. Funny how things happen and now here I am posting on FFL and have become the source of debate wondering if I might secretly be this other person and references to CIA and whose payroll I might be on. I did like the Satan reference though and have always considered myself to be a little devilish at times. Even when I did meet with some of her friends from the movement, there just seemed to be this vague whisp of mis-trust in the air. Kind of like, oh he's an outsider. He's not one of us attitude. Guessing again: It's possible she was embarrassed about having a non-TMer boyfriend (see above), and before you met them, she had done some kind of number on them that made them feel self-conscious and awkward around you. I mean, she really does sound like kind of a fruitcake, bless her heart. I'll bet you a buck that if she had been involved with something else, the same nuttiness would have come out in that context. But you know what? You sound like you're becoming as obsessed with TM as she is. You seem to be more interested in dishing dirt on TM and MMY than in figuring out if there's anything you can do to help her. I think that's why some of us are a bit skeptical about your real agenda here (and it's not just TMers who are skeptical). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/15/06 3:11 PM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So can anyone tell me, regarding the question of Earl Kaplan. Is he a real person and was this a letter written by him? Yes and yes. Did he contribute Millions of dollars to Maharishi and the TMO? Yes. How many millions and over what time frame? Probably about $100 million over 5-10 years. Did he know Maharishi personally? Yes. Could any some or all of he story be true? It¹s all true, to the best of his knowledge, but some of the stuff about Maharishi employing astral beings to suck your life force seems rather far-fetched to me. Or you you only interested in my testosterone levels and who pays me. P.S. He let me add my own twist for you to debatepssst maybe I'm really with the IRS. They¹re employing Canadians now? I wouldn't be surprised...didn't Maharishi go through a phase where he gave all the top jobs to Canadians? Well, if he can do it, so can the IRS! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: I was sitting around my X's living room once. We had be talking about her meeting with some TM'rs to do their program together. It was going to mess up our plans for part of the day. So I suggested I just come along and read a book or something while they went off and did there thing. I didn't think it was a big deal. I was told no absolutely not. I asked why not what's the big secret? She said something like, they discuss different things that non TM'rs just can't know about. And then made a reference to the CIA and the FBI. I thought, wow, how bizarre and paranoid a comment to make. Is this girl wierd or what. We had only been dating awhile and I let it side. During the course of the last few months I have wondered more and more whether she was mentally ill or if part of her problem was brain washing from the organisation she belonged to. Funny how things happen and now here I am posting on FFL and have become the source of debate wondering if I might secretly be this other person and references to CIA and whose payroll I might be on. I did like the Satan reference though and have always considered myself to be a little devilish at times. Even when I did meet with some of her friends from the movement, there just seemed to be this vague whisp of mis-trust in the air. Kind of like, oh he's an outsider. He's not one of us attitude. And since I've always been an out going open minded and kind hearted do anything for you type I found the behaviour dis-heartening and mildly hurtful. Afterall, why would such spiritual people treat me of all guys with contempt. A man who enjoys a very deep and loving connection with God and sees All humanity, life and existance for that matter as part of a single conscious being. I am beginning to understand now, thanks in part to some folks here and their responses to my queiries. I've always felt the truth to the mysteries of what is incorporates both the sciences of existance and the love and wisdoms of a divine consciousness. In addition to searching for answers regarding why my X GF was the way she is I had also hope that perhaps I'd pick up a tid bit or two of something new that I could use to enhence my own spiritual journey. Clearly that will not be the case from the TM'rs I have encountered here. Fear, insecurities and paranoia fill your minds and perhaps even your hearts. How sad I feel for you,,,how sad I feel for my X GF. How do you get to be this way??? So can anyone tell me, regarding the question of Earl Kaplan. Is he a real person and was this a letter written by him? Did he contribute Millions of dollars to Maharishi and the TMO? How many millions and over what time frame? Did he know Maharishi personally? Could any some or all of he story be true? Or you you only interested in my testosterone levels and who pays me. P.S. He let me add my own twist for you to debatepssst maybe I'm really with the IRS. Ah Sweet Mother of God the paranoia. unclewas You are quite good at posing as the friendly neighbour, but you are not good at posing as someone who is telling the truth about yourself, your family or the TM-movement. ...and what difference would that make, you paranoid nutcase? Suppose for one minute that he was NOT telling the truth about himself or his family and that he was posing as someone who he is not? Would that negate any of the points he makes? Does that prevent you from addressing his concerns? Even if he made up all that stuff about his ex girlfriend, haven't we all met at least one person who is like that? I know I have. By the way, nablus, I don't think you're too far off from the description he gives of his girlfriend, what with your talk about attempts on MMY's life and conspiracies against the TMO. Maybe YOU'RE the one who is posing...maybe YOU'RE his ex- girlfriend... Oh Christ! bite your tongue shepmccgurk,,,nablus,,,my girlfriend. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/15/06 3:11 PM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So can anyone tell me, regarding the question of Earl Kaplan. Is he a real person and was this a letter written by him? Yes and yes. Did he contribute Millions of dollars to Maharishi and the TMO? Yes. How many millions and over what time frame? Probably about $100 million over 5-10 years. Did he know Maharishi personally? Yes. Could any some or all of he story be true? It¹s all true, to the best of his knowledge, but some of the stuff about Maharishi employing astral beings to suck your life force seems rather far-fetched to me. Or you you only interested in my testosterone levels and who pays me. P.S. He let me add my own twist for you to debatepssst maybe I'm really with the IRS. They¹re employing Canadians now? Damn,,, busted and I was s careful not to use the word eh in any of my posts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: Guessing again: It's possible she was embarrassed about having a non-TMer boyfriend (see above), and before you met them, she had done some kind of number on them that made them feel self-conscious and awkward around you. I mean, she really does sound like kind of a fruitcake, bless her heart. I'll bet you a buck that if she had been involved with something else, the same nuttiness would have come out in that context. But you know what? You sound like you're becoming as obsessed with TM as she is. You seem to be more interested in dishing dirt on TM and MMY than in figuring out if there's anything you can do to help her. I think that's why some of us are a bit skeptical about your real agenda here (and it's not just TMers who are skeptical). Of course you are right Judy,,,I became and still am admittedly bitter surrounding the whole TMO MMY thing. I can't deny that. The truth is I really did like a number of her TM friends. They seemed sweet and gentle. It is one of the reasons I have been searching for answers. This was a nice response from you,,, thank you. Bill ps I know we've bantered back and forth I hope I haven't offended you to much. I will be leaving the board shortly. keep well. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I know we've bantered back and forth I hope I haven't offended you to much. I've weathered far worse, believe me! I will be leaving the board shortly. keep well. Keep your knees loose, as Keith Olbermann would say. Hope things work out for you one way or the other. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/15/06 3:11 PM, Bill (William)Simmons at unclewas@ wrote: So can anyone tell me, regarding the question of Earl Kaplan. Is he a real person and was this a letter written by him? Yes and yes. Did he contribute Millions of dollars to Maharishi and the TMO? Yes. How many millions and over what time frame? Probably about $100 million over 5-10 years. Did he know Maharishi personally? Yes. Could any some or all of he story be true? It¹s all true, to the best of his knowledge, but some of the stuff about Maharishi employing astral beings to suck your life force seems rather far-fetched to me. Or you you only interested in my testosterone levels and who pays me. P.S. He let me add my own twist for you to debatepssst maybe I'm really with the IRS. They¹re employing Canadians now? Damn,,, busted and I was s careful not to use the word eh in any of my posts. Doh! (maybe they're only using residents of Springfield these days? We won't go into what would be a sign of residents of Southpark...) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh such delicious paranoia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: Guessing again: It's possible she was embarrassed about having a non-TMer boyfriend (see above), and before you met them, she had done some kind of number on them that made them feel self-conscious and awkward around you. I mean, she really does sound like kind of a fruitcake, bless her heart. I'll bet you a buck that if she had been involved with something else, the same nuttiness would have come out in that context. But you know what? You sound like you're becoming as obsessed with TM as she is. You seem to be more interested in dishing dirt on TM and MMY than in figuring out if there's anything you can do to help her. I think that's why some of us are a bit skeptical about your real agenda here (and it's not just TMers who are skeptical). Of course you are right Judy,,,I became and still am admittedly bitter surrounding the whole TMO MMY thing. I can't deny that. The truth is I really did like a number of her TM friends. They seemed sweet and gentle. It is one of the reasons I have been searching for answers. This was a nice response from you,,, thank you. Bill ps I know we've bantered back and forth I hope I haven't offended you to much. I will be leaving the board shortly. keep well. Meaning we can expect Vaj back from vacation shortly... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
