[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF

2009-01-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... 
wrote:
 
 There is nothing wrong with choosing your favorite delicacy from the
 smorgasbord, but once you have chosen, eat what is on your plate.
 Dilettantes sample endlessly, are never satisfied and end up 
confused
 with whom to go home with after the party. The shills hype the
 purveyor's soup and both cash in. Meanwhile, your date for the 
dance,
 the prettiest of all the girls, (you lucky dog) was voted queen of 
the
 ball and stupid you, enchanted by all the other girls, danced like 
and
 fool with all but her. Eventually the music stopped, now weary of
 dancing and too old to care, you gently fade unnoticed into the wall
 of regret, a wilted flower denied of fragrance, too late to recover
 the magic. 
 
 Absolutely schmaltzy absolutist, 
 raunchydog

Beautiful, thank you !





[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF

2009-01-03 Thread enlightened_dawn11
very succinctly stated, eat what is on your plate. 

i fear many of the non TMers here are suffering from intense 
indigestion- (lol)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ 
wrote:
  
   This is the perfect object lesson in how the knowledge was 
lost. MMY
   knew it was inevitable. Sample the spiritual soup folks. Close 
your
   eyes to meditate and wonder, What spiritual practice should I 
do
   today?  Mantra, silent, or chant? Felt sense of third eye, 
navel, or
   anus? Take your pick and while you're at it, imagine the bubble
   diagram refining your thoughts to the source of thought. TRY 
to keep
   the mind from jumping around like a monkey on crack, TRY to be 
in
   UNITY, and TRY to be innocent. Don't mind the confusion, it's 
all the
   SELF, RIGHT? Whatever floats your boat. Enjoy.
  
  
  This is the core topic of Maharishi's teachings, 
  and the reason for the kerfuffle that is Fairfield 
  Life, whether in its physical or cyberspace forms. 
  If you accept Maharishi's position that knowledge 
  gets lost and Guru Dev restored vedic wisdom in 
  its purity, you pretty much have to be a TM absolutist. 
  If you believe different people are suited to different 
  paths, or that Maharishi made up an ineffective or even 
  harmful meditation technique, then the MMY orthodoxy 
  falls by the wayside. That's the fundamental argument 
  around here.
 
 There is nothing wrong with choosing your favorite delicacy from 
the
 smorgasbord, but once you have chosen, eat what is on your plate.
 Dilettantes sample endlessly, are never satisfied and end up 
confused
 with whom to go home with after the party. The shills hype the
 purveyor's soup and both cash in. Meanwhile, your date for the 
dance,
 the prettiest of all the girls, (you lucky dog) was voted queen of 
the
 ball and stupid you, enchanted by all the other girls, danced like 
and
 fool with all but her. Eventually the music stopped, now weary of
 dancing and too old to care, you gently fade unnoticed into the 
wall
 of regret, a wilted flower denied of fragrance, too late to recover
 the magic. 
 
 Absolutely schmaltzy absolutist, 
 raunchydog





[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF

2009-01-02 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 This is the perfect object lesson in how the knowledge was lost. MMY
 knew it was inevitable. Sample the spiritual soup folks. Close your
 eyes to meditate and wonder, What spiritual practice should I do
 today?  Mantra, silent, or chant? Felt sense of third eye, navel, or
 anus? Take your pick and while you're at it, imagine the bubble
 diagram refining your thoughts to the source of thought. TRY to keep
 the mind from jumping around like a monkey on crack, TRY to be in
 UNITY, and TRY to be innocent. Don't mind the confusion, it's all the
 SELF, RIGHT? Whatever floats your boat. Enjoy.


This is the core topic of Maharishi's teachings, 
and the reason for the kerfuffle that is Fairfield 
Life, whether in its physical or cyberspace forms. 
If you accept Maharishi's position that knowledge 
gets lost and Guru Dev restored vedic wisdom in 
its purity, you pretty much have to be a TM absolutist. 
If you believe different people are suited to different 
paths, or that Maharishi made up an ineffective or even 
harmful meditation technique, then the MMY orthodoxy 
falls by the wayside. That's the fundamental argument 
around here.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF

2009-01-02 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  This is the perfect object lesson in how the knowledge was lost. MMY
  knew it was inevitable. Sample the spiritual soup folks. Close your
  eyes to meditate and wonder, What spiritual practice should I do
  today?  Mantra, silent, or chant? Felt sense of third eye, navel, or
  anus? Take your pick and while you're at it, imagine the bubble
  diagram refining your thoughts to the source of thought. TRY to keep
  the mind from jumping around like a monkey on crack, TRY to be in
  UNITY, and TRY to be innocent. Don't mind the confusion, it's all the
  SELF, RIGHT? Whatever floats your boat. Enjoy.
 
 
 This is the core topic of Maharishi's teachings, 
 and the reason for the kerfuffle that is Fairfield 
 Life, whether in its physical or cyberspace forms. 
 If you accept Maharishi's position that knowledge 
 gets lost and Guru Dev restored vedic wisdom in 
 its purity, you pretty much have to be a TM absolutist. 
 If you believe different people are suited to different 
 paths, or that Maharishi made up an ineffective or even 
 harmful meditation technique, then the MMY orthodoxy 
 falls by the wayside. That's the fundamental argument 
 around here.

There is nothing wrong with choosing your favorite delicacy from the
smorgasbord, but once you have chosen, eat what is on your plate.
Dilettantes sample endlessly, are never satisfied and end up confused
with whom to go home with after the party. The shills hype the
purveyor's soup and both cash in. Meanwhile, your date for the dance,
the prettiest of all the girls, (you lucky dog) was voted queen of the
ball and stupid you, enchanted by all the other girls, danced like and
fool with all but her. Eventually the music stopped, now weary of
dancing and too old to care, you gently fade unnoticed into the wall
of regret, a wilted flower denied of fragrance, too late to recover
the magic. 

Absolutely schmaltzy absolutist, 
raunchydog



[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF

2009-01-01 Thread raunchydog
This is the perfect object lesson in how the knowledge was lost. MMY
knew it was inevitable. Sample the spiritual soup folks. Close your
eyes to meditate and wonder, What spiritual practice should I do
today?  Mantra, silent, or chant? Felt sense of third eye, navel, or
anus? Take your pick and while you're at it, imagine the bubble
diagram refining your thoughts to the source of thought. TRY to keep
the mind from jumping around like a monkey on crack, TRY to be in
UNITY, and TRY to be innocent. Don't mind the confusion, it's all the
SELF, RIGHT? Whatever floats your boat. Enjoy.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  Makes it clear why Maharishi wants the meditators out of 
Fairfield. 
  You call it rich I call it a mess. It used to be full of 
finders, 
  now full of spiritual shoppers and seekers. Sincerely hope The 
  Movement finds a new location soon.
 
 Ahh, welcome to Fairfield, Nablusos! It's good to see another 
 dedicated follower of Maharishi here. Before we give you your Dome 
 badge, let's just check your file ... Hmmm. It says here you're a 
TM 
 teacher, a representative of Maharishi and his knowledge, yet 
you've 
 gone on record as recently as last week publically espousing the 
 spiritual teachings of someone else Well, we're reasonable 
people 
 here. Please obtain references from three Governors in good 
standing, 
 and sign this paper disavowing all future support of this Benjamin 
 Creme and his 'Maitreya', or...NO DOME FOR YOU!
 
 :-)

Wouldn't want to go there anyway - too many americans either 
sleeping/snoring or dreaming of SodomaGomorra in those premises :-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/1/2007 4:20:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
  Fairfieild is the second wave of expansion and flexibility in 
regards  to 
 different teachings and a home for those who have tried so hard to 
work with  
 the TMO but were rejected because of a need to control other 
people's spiritual 
  evolution. Fairfield will continue to be an ever expanding vision 
of what 
 MMY  could have had if he was more open minded. I believe Bevan 
Morris is also  
 responsible for the very closed minded approach to India's 
philosophies. Many  
 meditators have walked away feeling forgotten because of the narrow 
focus of  
 recruiting more Sidha's. The quick fix mentality for world peace 
has 
 backfired  on the TMO and all they have left is MMY. The question 
comes soon. WHAT 
 WILL  THEY DO WITHOUT HIM? I think the TMO gets more
 conservative and hundreds if not thousands move more in the 
direction of  
 Fairfield Iowa (downtown) and less
 interested in MUM or Vedic City. Jai Guru Deva. Lsoma.

 
I doubdt very much that MIU or Vedic City will be found in Fairfield 
in the future. The town will be left to itself and the anarchists who 
will be more than happy to have Domes as partyplaces, if it is not 
torn down - which is my prediction. I'm sure Curtis will be more than 
happy to arrange the first rudraksha on condom party there 
convinced that that would be a sign that 200% of life finally is 
achieved. 

The first sign of Fairfields future came when Maharishi move 
MD/Purusha out. That they are now back, sort of, is only temporarily.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I am *very* happy with the way Fairfield has been evolving; it 
feels 
 more and more free, spontaneous, conscious and loving -- as if 
large 
 numbers of people are freeing themselves of the fear-filled belief 
 that they must pretend to be someone they are not in order to 
realize 
 the Self. If their further growth entails exploring other avenues 
of 
 spiritual inquiry, great! The more the merrier. Fairfield is indeed 
 enriched by all the new currents of spirituality here.
 
 I have nothing but gratitude for the TMO however; they are doing 
 their thing, and it's a very good thing indeed for those who wish 
to 
 avail themselves of it. My post was only intended to point out the 
 irony that Nablusos is apparently advocating the continued monopoly 
 of an exclusive club that he himself would not be allowed to join 

So you think Maharishi and Benjamin Creme are not on the same team ? 
Think again. 

If the US of A was not in such a mess I would be happy to go there 
and fly in the Domes for a while. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread Peter

--- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Makes it clear why Maharishi wants the meditators
 out of Fairfield. 
  You call it rich I call it a mess. It used to be
 full of finders, 
  now full of spiritual shoppers and seekers.
 Sincerely hope The 
  Movement finds a new location soon.
 
 Ahh, welcome to Fairfield, Nablusos! It's good to
 see another 
 dedicated follower of Maharishi here. Before we give
 you your Dome 
 badge, let's just check your file ... Hmmm. It says
 here you're a TM 
 teacher, a representative of Maharishi and his
 knowledge, yet you've 
 gone on record as recently as last week publically
 espousing the 
 spiritual teachings of someone else Well, we're
 reasonable people 
 here. Please obtain references from three Governors
 in good standing, 
 and sign this paper disavowing all future support of
 this Benjamin 
 Creme and his 'Maitreya', or...NO DOME FOR YOU!
 
 :-)

We don't need no stinkin' badges!
-Maitreya (Lecture 12867, November 23, 2005)



 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 Wouldn't want to go there anyway - too many americans either 
 sleeping/snoring or dreaming of SodomaGomorra in those premises :-)

The world is as you are -- You Know Who :-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ 
 wrote:
 
  I am *very* happy with the way Fairfield has been evolving; it 
 feels 
  more and more free, spontaneous, conscious and loving -- as if 
 large 
  numbers of people are freeing themselves of the fear-filled 
belief 
  that they must pretend to be someone they are not in order to 
 realize 
  the Self. If their further growth entails exploring other avenues 
 of 
  spiritual inquiry, great! The more the merrier. Fairfield is 
indeed 
  enriched by all the new currents of spirituality here.
  
  I have nothing but gratitude for the TMO however; they are doing 
  their thing, and it's a very good thing indeed for those who wish 
 to 
  avail themselves of it. My post was only intended to point out 
the 
  irony that Nablusos is apparently advocating the continued 
monopoly 
  of an exclusive club that he himself would not be allowed to join 
 
 So you think Maharishi and Benjamin Creme are not on the same 
team ? 
 Think again. 

No; personally, I think *everyone* is on the same team, whether 
they know it or not. I am just saying that as far as the TMO here in 
FF is concerned, if you're a TM Teacher advocating *any* spiritual 
teaching other than MMY's, you are not welcome in the Dome. And 
again, I have no problem with that; they have a perfect right to 
operate in any way they please. 
 
 If the US of A was not in such a mess I would be happy to go there 
 and fly in the Domes for a while.

Again, at present *you are not welcome in the Dome* if you are a TM 
Teacher publicly advocating any teaching other than MMY's -- whether 
you or I think they are on the same team or not is not relevant to 
the badge-keepers :-)







[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I doubdt very much that MIU or Vedic City will be found in Fairfield 
 in the future. The town will be left to itself and the anarchists who 
 will be more than happy to have Domes as partyplaces, if it is not 
 torn down - which is my prediction. I'm sure Curtis will be more than 
 happy to arrange the first rudraksha on condom party there 
 convinced that that would be a sign that 200% of life finally is 
 achieved. 
 
 The first sign of Fairfields future came when Maharishi move 
 MD/Purusha out. That they are now back, sort of, is only temporarily.

I spent three hours yesterday, attending a yagya being performed by
~25 of the Indian pandits over on the pandit campus in Vedic City, and
from listening to Raja Wynne, VC is looking to expand even further.
Obviously, the only constant in the relative world is change, but the
current trend in FF/VC is expansion, not contraction.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread Lsoma
 
In a message dated 7/2/2007 4:15:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 7/1/2007 4:20:17  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  Fairfieild is the second wave of expansion and flexibility in  
regards to 
 different teachings and a home for those who have  tried so hard to 
work with 
 the TMO but were rejected because of a  need to control other 
people's spiritual 
 evolution. Fairfield  will continue to be an ever expanding vision 
of what 
 MMY could  have had if he was more open minded. I believe Bevan 
Morris is also  
 responsible for the very closed minded approach to India's  
philosophies. Many 
 meditators have walked away feeling forgotten  because of the narrow 
focus of 
 recruiting more Sidha's. The quick  fix mentality for world peace 
has 
 backfired on the TMO and all  they have left is MMY. The question 
comes soon. WHAT 
 WILL THEY DO  WITHOUT HIM? I think the TMO gets more
 conservative and hundreds if  not thousands move more in the 
direction of 
 Fairfield Iowa  (downtown) and less
 interested in MUM or Vedic City. Jai Guru Deva.  Lsoma.

I doubdt very much that MIU or Vedic City will be found in  Fairfield 
in the future.  
I did not say that MUM or Vedic City would be found in  Fairfield. I said 
that many 
people will gravitate towards the town of Fairfield  from MUM or Vedic City 
because MMY is not going to be around anymore by the  end of August 2007 and 
the TMO will become more conservative and less  comfortable for those who 
already have one foot out the door. That Fairfield  (town) will continue to 
expand 
rather than contract. Lsoma. 
The town will be left to itself and the anarchists who 
will be more  than happy to have Domes as partyplaces, if it is not 
torn down - which is  my prediction. I'm sure Curtis will be more than 
happy to arrange the  first rudraksha on condom party there 
convinced that that would be a  sign that 200% of life finally is 
achieved. 

The first sign of  Fairfields future came when Maharishi move 
MD/Purusha out. That they are  now back, sort of, is only temporarily.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread Lsoma
 
In a message dated 7/2/2007 10:12:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I doubdt very  much that MIU or Vedic City will be found in Fairfield 
 in the future.  The town will be left to itself and the anarchists who 
 will be more  than happy to have Domes as partyplaces, if it is not 
 torn down -  which is my prediction. I'm sure Curtis will be more than 
 happy to  arrange the first rudraksha on condom party there 
 convinced that  that would be a sign that 200% of life finally is 
 achieved. 
  
 The first sign of Fairfields future came when Maharishi move 
  MD/Purusha out. That they are now back, sort of, is only temporarily.

I  spent three hours yesterday, attending a yagya being performed by
~25 of  the Indian pandits over on the pandit campus in Vedic City, and
from  listening to Raja Wynne, VC is looking to expand even further.
Obviously,  the only constant in the relative world is change, but the
current trend in  FF/VC is expansion, not contraction.  
Yes. While MMY is alive it will continue to expand. But  after he is no 
longer in physical embodiment it will be hard for Mr. Raja  Wynne to keep the 
millionaires funding the project. Look for a decline of  interest by the summer 
of 
2008. If the TMO wants to move in the direction of  relaxing their guidelines 
then the organization would expand. The fact is SSRS  had 2.5 million people 
in India last year. Many of them who left MMY. I don't  see the TMO changing 
after MMY passes and the guidelines will get even more  conservative as Bevan 
Morris takes over. God help us.  Lsoma.


 


 



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/2/2007 4:15:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  
  
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
 ,  Lsoma@ wrote:
 
  
  In a message dated 7/1/2007 4:20:17  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
  rorygoff@ writes:
  
   
   Fairfieild is the second wave of expansion and flexibility in  
 regards to 
  different teachings and a home for those who have  tried so hard 
to 
 work with 
  the TMO but were rejected because of a  need to control other 
 people's spiritual 
  evolution. Fairfield  will continue to be an ever expanding 
vision 
 of what 
  MMY could  have had if he was more open minded. I believe Bevan 
 Morris is also  
  responsible for the very closed minded approach to India's  
 philosophies. Many 
  meditators have walked away feeling forgotten  because of the 
narrow 
 focus of 
  recruiting more Sidha's. The quick  fix mentality for world peace 
 has 
  backfired on the TMO and all  they have left is MMY. The question 
 comes soon. WHAT 
  WILL THEY DO  WITHOUT HIM? I think the TMO gets more
  conservative and hundreds if  not thousands move more in the 
 direction of 
  Fairfield Iowa  (downtown) and less
  interested in MUM or Vedic City. Jai Guru Deva.  Lsoma.
 
 I doubdt very much that MIU or Vedic City will be found in  
Fairfield 
 in the future. 

 
 I did not say that MUM or Vedic City would be found in  Fairfield. 
I said 
 that many 
 people will gravitate towards the town of Fairfield  from MUM or 
Vedic City 

I did not say that you said, Lsoma.  Anyway; my point is that there 
will be no MUM/MIU in Fairfield or IOWA in the future. For a short 
while after the univerity has moved out there will be an influx of 
hippies and anarchists who are looking for a party. But since the 
coherence is gone the party will go wrong. In the end the 
fairfielders will go back to tending to what they enjoy; raising pigs 
for example.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ 
  wrote:
  
   I am *very* happy with the way Fairfield has been evolving; it 
  feels 
   more and more free, spontaneous, conscious and loving -- as if 
  large 
   numbers of people are freeing themselves of the fear-filled 
 belief 
   that they must pretend to be someone they are not in order to 
  realize 
   the Self. If their further growth entails exploring other 
avenues 
  of 
   spiritual inquiry, great! The more the merrier. Fairfield is 
 indeed 
   enriched by all the new currents of spirituality here.
   
   I have nothing but gratitude for the TMO however; they are 
doing 
   their thing, and it's a very good thing indeed for those who 
wish 
  to 
   avail themselves of it. My post was only intended to point out 
 the 
   irony that Nablusos is apparently advocating the continued 
 monopoly 
   of an exclusive club that he himself would not be allowed to 
join 
  
  So you think Maharishi and Benjamin Creme are not on the same 
 team ? 
  Think again. 
 
 No; personally, I think *everyone* is on the same team, whether 
 they know it or not. I am just saying that as far as the TMO here 
in 
 FF is concerned, if you're a TM Teacher advocating *any* spiritual 
 teaching other than MMY's, you are not welcome in the Dome. And 
 again, I have no problem with that; they have a perfect right to 
 operate in any way they please. 
  
  If the US of A was not in such a mess I would be happy to go 
there 
  and fly in the Domes for a while.
 
 Again, at present *you are not welcome in the Dome* if you are a TM 
 Teacher publicly advocating any teaching other than MMY's -- 
whether 
 you or I think they are on the same team or not is not relevant 
to 
 the badge-keepers :-)

Another reason not to enter that strange country. 
The americans always comes through as extraordinary rigid anyway, and 
the americans in the Movement are no exceptions. Could be a national 
disease, and one that gradually is driving USA into international 
isolation. 
The rest of the world is just getting more and more fed up with the 
rigid, stupid and rough american foreign policy I suppose. The world 
is moving on, but the americans do not seem to have grasped this 
simple fact.

Just for the record; Benjamin Creme's views are not other than 
MMY's 
For more information, please see: http://www.shareintl.org



[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Another reason not to enter that strange country. 
 The americans always comes through as extraordinary rigid anyway, and 
 the americans in the Movement are no exceptions. 

Ahh, good! So now perhaps you can see why so many TM-ers have left the 
TMO -- like you, they were drawn to appreciate avenues of spiritual 
inquiry other than MMY himself, and thus were no longer allowed to 
attend the Domes.

Could be a national 
 disease, and one that gradually is driving USA into international 
 isolation. 
 The rest of the world is just getting more and more fed up with the 
 rigid, stupid and rough american foreign policy I suppose. The world 
 is moving on, but the americans do not seem to have grasped this 
 simple fact.

Perhaps some few have not yet; I would say that apparently many if not 
most actually have.
 
 Just for the record; Benjamin Creme's views are not other than 
 MMY's 
 For more information, please see: http://www.shareintl.org

You have no argument with me; I am just pointing out that according to 
the current stance of the TMO, Benjamin Creme is not MMY, and is not a 
follower of MMY, ergo he is other than MMY.

LLL,

R.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread qntmpkt
---MMY is the real thing - person. Maitreya is an imposter, posing as 
Maitreya; thus, an invading spirit who has taken over the unwitting 
dupe, Benjamin Creme. 


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  Another reason not to enter that strange country. 
  The americans always comes through as extraordinary rigid anyway, 
and 
  the americans in the Movement are no exceptions. 
 
 Ahh, good! So now perhaps you can see why so many TM-ers have left 
the 
 TMO -- like you, they were drawn to appreciate avenues of spiritual 
 inquiry other than MMY himself, and thus were no longer allowed to 
 attend the Domes.
 
 Could be a national 
  disease, and one that gradually is driving USA into international 
  isolation. 
  The rest of the world is just getting more and more fed up with 
the 
  rigid, stupid and rough american foreign policy I suppose. The 
world 
  is moving on, but the americans do not seem to have grasped this 
  simple fact.
 
 Perhaps some few have not yet; I would say that apparently many if 
not 
 most actually have.
  
  Just for the record; Benjamin Creme's views are not other than 
  MMY's 
  For more information, please see: http://www.shareintl.org
 
 You have no argument with me; I am just pointing out that according 
to 
 the current stance of the TMO, Benjamin Creme is not MMY, and is 
not a 
 follower of MMY, ergo he is other than MMY.
 
 LLL,
 
 R.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ---MMY is the real thing - person. Maitreya is an imposter, posing as 
 Maitreya; thus, an invading spirit who has taken over the unwitting 
 dupe, Benjamin Creme. 

 
I believe you are mistaken. You could be right, but I think not. In 
this business everything is possible ofcourse. I hope Maitreya soon 
will start His open work in the world - then we will see things in a 
better perspective.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-02 Thread nablusoss1008

  
  Just for the record; Benjamin Creme's views are not other than 
  MMY's 
  For more information, please see: http://www.shareintl.org
 
 You have no argument with me; I am just pointing out that according 
to 
 the current stance of the TMO, Benjamin Creme is not MMY, and is not 
a 
 follower of MMY, ergo he is other than MMY.
 
 LLL,
 
 R.

How can you be so sure about that ? Benjamin Creme has on several 
occasions, both publically and in print endorsed TM as a safe and 
beneficial personal meditation-technique.
Given the climate in the USA these days however I surely would not 
travel there to start an argument with some of the most rigid people on 
the planet at the door of the Domes. Do you think for example the 
French would bother, or the italians ? No, Sir !




[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Spiritual Practice Groups of Fairfield
 
 
 
 Directory of Active Fairfield Spiritual Practice Groups
 
 Outside of Fairfield, people intently ask, What is going on in
 Fairfield?
 The spiritual, utopian side of Fairfield is something they are
 wondering
 about. Fairfield has become recognized as a spiritual Mecca of 
sorts,
 ranking with Sedona, Arizona, Boulder and Crestone, Colorado,
 Ashville,
 North Carolina and the like. Within these past three decades,
 Fairfield
 spiritual practice groups have matured, giving this community a
 rich, new
 face.
 The long-time Fairfield meditating community today is its own center
 for
 spiritual practice. The breadth of spiritual practice groups in
 Fairfield is
 now a unique feature of our town in the 21st Century.
 
 ___Alphabetical:
 
 A Course in Miracles, Mondays 7:30 pm. Local contact: 472-7148.
 
 Ammachi Fairfield Satsang
 Ammachi Fairfield weekly schedule of meditation, chanting, and
 bhajans
 contact: 472-8563
 
 Art of Living Foundation -Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Meditation and 
program
 schedule in Fairfield. 472-2053
 
 Babaji Group: Local contact: 472-9952
 
 Bapuji Group Shri Avadoot, better known as ³Bapuji². Local contact:
 472-9260
 
 Chalanda Sai Maa Satang in Fairfield
 Group meditations based on the teachings of Chalanda Sai Maa Lakshmi
 Devi.
 First and third Monday of the month at 7:30 PM. Call for location 
 information: 472-5175.
 
 Circle of Sophia a holy order for women at St. Gabriel and All
 Angels, the
 Liberal Catholic Church. Original worship celebration, written from
 sources
 in ancient Christianity, enlivens the Feminine Divine for both men
 and
 women. Celebrations monthly. 300 E. Burlington. www.stgabe.org, 472-
 1645,
 for information and calendar.
 
 Deeksha Darshan and teachings of Bhagavan Kalki  Padmavati Amma
 Fairfield contact for local program: 472-6948
 
 Divine Mother Church in Fairfield
 ³We don¹t talk about God, we commune with God². Sundays 10 AM; 409 
W.
 Broadway; 472-0662.
 
 
 Fairfield Vedic Pujas, Yagyas and Ceremonies
 Scheduled public events always open to interested persons. By Vedic
 Scholar
 and Priest, Pandit Dhruv Narain Sharma: 630-240-3368
 
 
 Fellowship of the Holy Spirit in Fairfield
 ³Consciousness, Joy, and Devotion: Christianity that works.²
 Sundays, 11 AM,
 Gateridge Building, 1100 N. 4th. 472-8737.
 
 Friends Meeting Fairfield Society of Friends (Quakers) Un-programmed
 silent meeting for worship. 472-8422.
 
 Gangaji Group Local contact: 472-9476.
 
 Golden Shield Qi Gong Fairfield practice: 641-919-3913.
 
 Hatha Yoga classes. Sue Berkey: 472-6577
 
 Henry Hertzberger Chanting, Pujas  Yagyas. Mahaganapati Temple
 Schedule:
 
 Fairfield Shri Karunamayi Satsang
 Fairfield Group Meditation and Program. 472-8422
 
 
 Liberal Catholic Church in Fairfield
 St Gabriel and all Angels, 300 E. Burlington. 472-1625
 
 Manavata Mandir Vedic Temple
 800 W. Burlington in Fairfield. 469-6041.
 
 Mother Meera: 641.472.5149
 
 Saniel Bonder, `Waking Down' in Fairfield. Sittings calendar: call
 472-7182.
 
 Scalar Group Meditation Programs
 facilitated by Lilli Botchis. A unique opportunity as a group to
 research in
 mind/body consciousness the universal themes of pure energy and
 manifestation potential of HHFe Scalar wave regeneration system.
 Programs
 designed to clear, balance and open the chakra system. 472-0129.
 
 Shivabalayogi Group All are welcome. There is never any charge for
 Swamiji's blessings. For further information, contact: 641-233-1025.
 
 Svaroopa Yoga (641) 472-7499.
 
 Tetra Building TM-Sidhi Meditation Practice Room. Daily morning and
 afternoon
 meditation facility for the practice of the TM-Sidhi meditation
 program. A
 quiet, clean and convenient place (to do program). Contact David
 Hawthorne
 for use and membership information: 472-3799.
 
 Transcendental Meditation Programs: 641-919.8188 or 472-1174
 
 Transformational Prayer in Fairfield
 For information on Fairfield activities, call 472-0662.
 
 Wednesday Night Satsang - Every Wednesday starting at 8pm Central
 Time.
 Kirkwood Apartments just east of Sidha Insurance near 4th and
 Kirkwood.
 First apartment on the right, up the stairs.
 The mechanics of what happens in the Wednesday Night Satsang is as
 follows.
 With anywhere from a dozen or more awake people in the room there
 begins a
 sharing of how the wholeness of the awakening has or is being
 experienced/lived by one or more awake people. This sharing stirs 
the
 wholeness into activity. Those in the room feel it in a palpable
 way. The
 sharing of the experience of how it is gives everyone in the room
 direct and
 complete understanding of what this wholeness is. Any one who is in
 the room
 then has the direct physical experience of wholeness and the
 intellectual
 understanding of how and why wholeness is lived. This completes the
 fullness
 of both the experience and 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-01 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Makes it clear why Maharishi wants the meditators out of Fairfield. 
 You call it rich I call it a mess. It used to be full of finders, 
 now full of spiritual shoppers and seekers. Sincerely hope The 
 Movement finds a new location soon.

Ahh, welcome to Fairfield, Nablusos! It's good to see another 
dedicated follower of Maharishi here. Before we give you your Dome 
badge, let's just check your file ... Hmmm. It says here you're a TM 
teacher, a representative of Maharishi and his knowledge, yet you've 
gone on record as recently as last week publically espousing the 
spiritual teachings of someone else Well, we're reasonable people 
here. Please obtain references from three Governors in good standing, 
and sign this paper disavowing all future support of this Benjamin 
Creme and his 'Maitreya', or...NO DOME FOR YOU!

:-)




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-01 Thread Lsoma
 
In a message dated 7/1/2007 4:20:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 Fairfieild is the second wave of expansion and flexibility in regards  to 
different teachings and a home for those who have tried so hard to work with  
the TMO but were rejected because of a need to control other people's spiritual 
 evolution. Fairfield will continue to be an ever expanding vision of what 
MMY  could have had if he was more open minded. I believe Bevan Morris is also  
responsible for the very closed minded approach to India's philosophies. Many  
meditators have walked away feeling forgotten because of the narrow focus of  
recruiting more Sidha's. The quick fix mentality for world peace has 
backfired  on the TMO and all they have left is MMY. The question comes soon. 
WHAT 
WILL  THEY DO WITHOUT HIM? I think the TMO gets more
conservative and hundreds if not thousands move more in the direction of  
Fairfield Iowa (downtown) and less
interested in MUM or Vedic City. Jai Guru Deva. Lsoma.

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Makes it clear why  Maharishi wants the meditators out of Fairfield. 
 You call it rich I  call it a mess. It used to be full of finders, 
 now full of spiritual  shoppers and seekers. Sincerely hope The 
 Movement finds a new  location soon.

Ahh, welcome to Fairfield, Nablusos! It's good to see  another 
dedicated follower of Maharishi here. Before we give you your Dome  
badge, let's just check your file ... Hmmm. It says here you're a TM  
teacher, a representative of Maharishi and his knowledge, yet you've  
gone on record as recently as last week publically espousing the  
spiritual teachings of someone else Well, we're reasonable people  
here. Please obtain references from three Governors in good standing,  
and sign this paper disavowing all future support of this Benjamin  
Creme and his 'Maitreya', or...NO DOME FOR  YOU!

:-)


 


 



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

2007-07-01 Thread Rory Goff
I am *very* happy with the way Fairfield has been evolving; it feels 
more and more free, spontaneous, conscious and loving -- as if large 
numbers of people are freeing themselves of the fear-filled belief 
that they must pretend to be someone they are not in order to realize 
the Self. If their further growth entails exploring other avenues of 
spiritual inquiry, great! The more the merrier. Fairfield is indeed 
enriched by all the new currents of spirituality here.

I have nothing but gratitude for the TMO however; they are doing 
their thing, and it's a very good thing indeed for those who wish to 
avail themselves of it. My post was only intended to point out the 
irony that Nablusos is apparently advocating the continued monopoly 
of an exclusive club that he himself would not be allowed to join :-)

*L*L*L*

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/1/2007 4:20:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
  Fairfieild is the second wave of expansion and flexibility in 
regards  to 
 different teachings and a home for those who have tried so hard to 
work with  
 the TMO but were rejected because of a need to control other 
people's spiritual 
  evolution. Fairfield will continue to be an ever expanding vision 
of what 
 MMY  could have had if he was more open minded. I believe Bevan 
Morris is also  
 responsible for the very closed minded approach to India's 
philosophies. Many  
 meditators have walked away feeling forgotten because of the narrow 
focus of  
 recruiting more Sidha's. The quick fix mentality for world peace 
has 
 backfired  on the TMO and all they have left is MMY. The question 
comes soon. WHAT 
 WILL  THEY DO WITHOUT HIM? I think the TMO gets more
 conservative and hundreds if not thousands move more in the 
direction of  
 Fairfield Iowa (downtown) and less
 interested in MUM or Vedic City. Jai Guru Deva. Lsoma.
 
  
  
  
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
 ,  nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Makes it clear why  Maharishi wants the meditators out of 
Fairfield. 
  You call it rich I  call it a mess. It used to be full of 
finders, 
  now full of spiritual  shoppers and seekers. Sincerely hope The 
  Movement finds a new  location soon.
 
 Ahh, welcome to Fairfield, Nablusos! It's good to see  another 
 dedicated follower of Maharishi here. Before we give you your Dome  
 badge, let's just check your file ... Hmmm. It says here you're a 
TM  
 teacher, a representative of Maharishi and his knowledge, yet 
you've  
 gone on record as recently as last week publically espousing the  
 spiritual teachings of someone else Well, we're reasonable 
people  
 here. Please obtain references from three Governors in good 
standing,  
 and sign this paper disavowing all future support of this Benjamin  
 Creme and his 'Maitreya', or...NO DOME FOR  YOU!
 
 :-)
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
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