[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: please waste your time and dig out my answer to your last post. My last post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352908 Your answer to it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352918 I'll await your apology. You didn't post the last post of that discussion I just posted the link to it above, headed Your answer to it. Yours was the last post of that discussion. My last post in the discussion was the one linked to above headed My last post. nor my answer since I didn't bother. You did bother. See the Your answer to it link above. Now, who's dishonest You are, unquestionably. I just documented it. Now I've had it with this. You didn't document anything except post posts, What?? nor did you post the last one. Yours was the last one, as I keep saying. What did you do with it, delete it so you could prove to be right ? That's an inexcusable accusation, Nabby. I didn't delete a thing. I don't pull dishonest crap like that, and you know it. You are lying AND demanding an apology. It doesn't suit you nor your reputation here very well. I'm not lying. You made a bad mistake, and you can't admit it, so you try to blame it on me. Your reputation here, such as it was, has just gone straight down the tubes. You are not a person of integrity. BTW, posts deleted from Yahoo do not get deleted from the independent MailArchive: http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/ See if you can find it there. You can order the list by thread title or by date. And when you see that it's not there--because there never was any such post from me--you can come back and tell us you were wrong. Only you aren't going to look, because you know you won't find it, just as you couldn't find it in the Yahoo archive. You'll just keep trying to stonewall. Really, really crappy, shameful behavior, Nabs. You're the one that is lying by claiming I replied to all your posts, which I clearly didn't. And for good reason, one has to be fairly obsessed to bother about details that happened decades ago. As for shameful behavior you have been caught lying about this but refuse to admit it. That's shameful behavior in my book.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: (snip) You're the one that is lying by claiming I replied to all your posts, which I clearly didn't. You clearly did reply to all my posts. I didn't reply to *your* last post. You know it, I know it, you know I know it. I posted the links. You couldn't come up with a post from me in our discussion that you hadn't answered, from either the Yahoo archive or the independent Mail Archive. That's because no such post ever existed. And for good reason, one has to be fairly obsessed to bother about details that happened decades ago. You seemed to have quite an interest in discussing those details yourself, Nabby. As for shameful behavior you have been caught lying about this but refuse to admit it. That's shameful behavior in my book. It's you who has been caught lying about this but refuses to admit it. Nabby, it's just silly, because anybody can check for themselves to determine who is lying. Plus which, they know I don't lie, and they know you *do* lie. The shameful behavior is all yours. I hope it keeps you warm at night. And I'm sorry your ego is so fragile that you can't admit having made a mistake.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: (snip) You're the one that is lying by claiming I replied to all your posts, which I clearly didn't. You clearly did reply to all my posts. I didn't reply to *your* last post. You know it, I know it, you know I know it. I posted the links. You couldn't come up with a post from me in our discussion that you hadn't answered, from either the Yahoo archive or the independent Mail Archive. That's because no such post ever existed. And for good reason, one has to be fairly obsessed to bother about details that happened decades ago. You seemed to have quite an interest in discussing those details yourself, Nabby. As for shameful behavior you have been caught lying about this but refuse to admit it. That's shameful behavior in my book. It's you who has been caught lying about this but refuses to admit it. Nabby, it's just silly, because anybody can check for themselves to determine who is lying. Plus which, they know I don't lie, and they know you *do* lie. Perhaps they have gotten a different opinion over time. I also was under the impression that Judy always told the truth. Not anymore. You are trying to manipulate the fact that I didn't answer your last post but has failed. I doubt anyone is interested but if they are they can look up all the posts and see for themselves whether I answered it or not. I didn't, you know it and I know it. Your insistence of always being correct is ridiculous.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: (snip) It's you who has been caught lying about this but refuses to admit it. Nabby, it's just silly, because anybody can check for themselves to determine who is lying. Plus which, they know I don't lie, and they know you *do* lie. Perhaps they have gotten a different opinion over time. Don't think so, because I haven't changed my behavior. I also was under the impression that Judy always told the truth. Not anymore. Your new impression is wrong. And you know why it's wrong. You are trying to manipulate the fact that I didn't answer your last post Since that's not a fact, there's nothing to be manipulated. You *did* answer my last post. I already proved that. but has failed. You have failed *totally* to make your case. I doubt anyone is interested but if they are they can look up all the posts and see for themselves whether I answered it or not. Indeed they can, as I've said all along, but you'd better pray they don't. There was no post to *be* answered after my last post. Your answer to that post is the final post in our discussion. Nothing, no more posts in the discussion, after your response to my last post. I didn't You did. you know it and I know it. We both know you did (as would anyone who checked). Your insistence of always being correct is ridiculous. You think I should let you get away with a lie?? I genuinely don't know whether you believe what you're saying or are just compulsively trying to brazen it out with this falsehood, hoping against hope folks will believe you rather than me, because...because what? Why on earth should they? Especially when you are unable to produce the one piece of evidence that could make your case rock-solid if it existed? If it did exist, you could prove me a liar and exonerate yourself. If it existed, why on earth wouldn't you post it? Why do you think repeating your claim over and over again is going to *convince* anybody when you have no evidence to back it up? Life doesn't work like that, Nabby. Again, you've sealed yourself inside a little box you can't get out of, all because you can't bring yourself to admit a mistake. It wasn't even a very *important* mistake. You could have just admitted it when I first pointed it out, and that would have been that. Probably nobody but me would have noticed. The longer you refuse to admit what's obviously true, the harder it will become to do so.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Life doesn't work like that, Nabby. Again, you've sealed yourself inside a little box you can't get out of, all because you can't bring yourself to admit a mistake. It wasn't even a very *important* mistake. You could have just admitted it when I first pointed it out, and that would have been that. Probably nobody but me would have noticed. The longer you refuse to admit what's obviously true, the harder it will become to do so. I guess it's impossible for someone who in her own eyes are impeccable to admit having made false accusations. You continue to do so by keep making the same claims over and over again. If this has any value at all for other readers it will be that more persons than myself see that the Judy is not the Queen of Impeccability we thought she was.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: [I wrote:] Life doesn't work like that, Nabby. Again, you've sealed yourself inside a little box you can't get out of, all because you can't bring yourself to admit a mistake. It wasn't even a very *important* mistake. You could have just admitted it when I first pointed it out, and that would have been that. Probably nobody but me would have noticed. The longer you refuse to admit what's obviously true, the harder it will become to do so. I guess it's impossible for someone who in her own eyes are impeccable to admit having made false accusations. You continue to do so by keep making the same claims over and over again. No, because everything I've said about this has been true and documented. You, in stark contrast, cannot offer any evidence for your claims, because they're flat-out false. And you know it. If this has any value at all for other readers it will be that more persons than myself see that the Judy is not the Queen of Impeccability we thought she was. I'm not the Queen of anything, but as you know, Nabby, I don't lie and haven't in this case. No, you have been the one telling the falsehoods, as anyone who checks out our respective claims will discover. I know you're very anxious to get this off your back without having to make that admission, but the only way that's gonna happen is if you give me the last word. Understand?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: [I wrote:] Life doesn't work like that, Nabby. Again, you've sealed yourself inside a little box you can't get out of, all because you can't bring yourself to admit a mistake. It wasn't even a very *important* mistake. You could have just admitted it when I first pointed it out, and that would have been that. Probably nobody but me would have noticed. The longer you refuse to admit what's obviously true, the harder it will become to do so. I guess it's impossible for someone who in her own eyes are impeccable to admit having made false accusations. You continue to do so by keep making the same claims over and over again. No, because everything I've said about this has been true and documented. No is isn't. You, in stark contrast, cannot offer any evidence for your claims, because they're flat-out false. And you know it. You haven't shown any evidence of me answering your last post. That's a fact, one that probably has dawn on you long ago. If this has any value at all for other readers it will be that more persons than myself see that the Judy is not the Queen of Impeccability we thought she was. I'm not the Queen of anything, but as you know, Nabby, I don't lie and haven't in this case. Yes you have. No, you have been the one telling the falsehoods, as anyone who checks out our respective claims will discover. I know you're very anxious to get this off your back without having to make that admission, I'm not, I couldn't care less. But my pitta gets aggravated when seeing someone lying through her teeth while trying to get away with it. but the only way that's gonna happen is if you give me the last word. Understand? So it's all about Judy getting the last word ? Well I have news for you; you want have it because in this case you don't deserve it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: [I wrote:] Life doesn't work like that, Nabby. Again, you've sealed yourself inside a little box you can't get out of, all because you can't bring yourself to admit a mistake. It wasn't even a very *important* mistake. You could have just admitted it when I first pointed it out, and that would have been that. Probably nobody but me would have noticed. The longer you refuse to admit what's obviously true, the harder it will become to do so. I guess it's impossible for someone who in her own eyes are impeccable to admit having made false accusations. You continue to do so by keep making the same claims over and over again. No, because everything I've said about this has been true and documented. No is isn't. Yes, it is. You, in stark contrast, cannot offer any evidence for your claims, because they're flat-out false. And you know it. You haven't shown any evidence of me answering your last post. That's a fact, one that probably has dawn on you long ago. I linked to both my last post and your answer to it about four or five rounds ago, Nabby, as you well know. If this has any value at all for other readers it will be that more persons than myself see that the Judy is not the Queen of Impeccability we thought she was. I'm not the Queen of anything, but as you know, Nabby, I don't lie and haven't in this case. Yes you have. No, I have not. You have. No, you have been the one telling the falsehoods, as anyone who checks out our respective claims will discover. I know you're very anxious to get this off your back without having to make that admission, I'm not, I couldn't care less. But my pitta gets aggravated when seeing someone lying through her teeth while trying to get away with it. Except that isn't what you're seeing. You're seeing somebody refusing to let you get away with your accusation that *they* are lying when, as you know, it's you. but the only way that's gonna happen is if you give me the last word. Understand? So it's all about Judy getting the last word ? In this case it is. I do not let accusations that I am dishonest stand. Well I have news for you; you want have it because in this case you don't deserve it. You don't have any choice.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: [I wrote:] Life doesn't work like that, Nabby. Again, you've sealed yourself inside a little box you can't get out of, all because you can't bring yourself to admit a mistake. It wasn't even a very *important* mistake. You could have just admitted it when I first pointed it out, and that would have been that. Probably nobody but me would have noticed. The longer you refuse to admit what's obviously true, the harder it will become to do so. I guess it's impossible for someone who in her own eyes are impeccable to admit having made false accusations. You continue to do so by keep making the same claims over and over again. No, because everything I've said about this has been true and documented. No is isn't. Yes, it is. You, in stark contrast, cannot offer any evidence for your claims, because they're flat-out false. And you know it. You haven't shown any evidence of me answering your last post. That's a fact, one that probably has dawn on you long ago. I linked to both my last post and your answer to it about four or five rounds ago, Nabby, as you well know. If this has any value at all for other readers it will be that more persons than myself see that the Judy is not the Queen of Impeccability we thought she was. I'm not the Queen of anything, but as you know, Nabby, I don't lie and haven't in this case. Yes you have. No, I have not. You have. No, you have been the one telling the falsehoods, as anyone who checks out our respective claims will discover. I know you're very anxious to get this off your back without having to make that admission, I'm not, I couldn't care less. But my pitta gets aggravated when seeing someone lying through her teeth while trying to get away with it. Except that isn't what you're seeing. You're seeing somebody refusing to let you get away with your accusation that *they* are lying when, as you know, it's you. but the only way that's gonna happen is if you give me the last word. Understand? So it's all about Judy getting the last word ? In this case it is. I do not let accusations that I am dishonest stand. Well I have news for you; you want have it because in this case you don't deserve it. You don't have any choice. So just carry on this I never lie conversation with yourself. I don't believe you and your failure to produce anything other than I am right you are wrong probably will make more people question you self-proclaimed authority regarding facts in the future.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: [I wrote:] Life doesn't work like that, Nabby. Again, you've sealed yourself inside a little box you can't get out of, all because you can't bring yourself to admit a mistake. It wasn't even a very *important* mistake. You could have just admitted it when I first pointed it out, and that would have been that. Probably nobody but me would have noticed. The longer you refuse to admit what's obviously true, the harder it will become to do so. I guess it's impossible for someone who in her own eyes are impeccable to admit having made false accusations. You continue to do so by keep making the same claims over and over again. No, because everything I've said about this has been true and documented. No is isn't. Yes, it is. No it isn't. You, in stark contrast, cannot offer any evidence for your claims, because they're flat-out false. And you know it. You haven't shown any evidence of me answering your last post. That's a fact, one that probably has dawn on you long ago. I linked to both my last post and your answer to it about four or five rounds ago, Nabby, as you well know. And carefully omitted, perhaps even deleted, your last post to make it look like I did answer your last post, which I did not. If this has any value at all for other readers it will be that more persons than myself see that the Judy is not the Queen of Impeccability we thought she was. I'm not the Queen of anything, but as you know, Nabby, I don't lie and haven't in this case. Yes you have. No, I have not. You have. No I haven't but you consistently lie about this topic. No, you have been the one telling the falsehoods, as anyone who checks out our respective claims will discover. I know you're very anxious to get this off your back without having to make that admission, I'm not, I couldn't care less. But my pitta gets aggravated when seeing someone lying through her teeth while trying to get away with it. Except that isn't what you're seeing. You're seeing somebody refusing to let you get away with your accusation that *they* are lying when, as you know, it's you. but the only way that's gonna happen is if you give me the last word. Understand? So it's all about Judy getting the last word ? In this case it is. I do not let accusations that I am dishonest stand. Well I have news for you; you want have it because in this case you don't deserve it. You don't have any choice. So just carry on this I never lie conversation with yourself. I don't believe you and your failure to produce anything other than I am right you are wrong probably will make more people question you self-proclaimed authority regarding facts in the future.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: (snip) I guess it's impossible for someone who in her own eyes are impeccable to admit having made false accusations. You continue to do so by keep making the same claims over and over again. No, because everything I've said about this has been true and documented. No is isn't. Yes, it is. No it isn't. Yes, it is. (giggle) You, in stark contrast, cannot offer any evidence for your claims, because they're flat-out false. And you know it. You haven't shown any evidence of me answering your last post. That's a fact, one that probably has dawn on you long ago. I linked to both my last post and your answer to it about four or five rounds ago, Nabby, as you well know. And carefully omitted, perhaps even deleted, your last post to make it look like I did answer your last post, which I did not. No, Nabby, as you know, the post I linked to was my last post. There were none after that, none to omit, none to delete. It looks like you answered my last post because that is exactly what you did. That's the other post I linked to. *That* was the last post in the discussion, the one from you answering my last post. You see, those stubborn ol' facts just don't change. If this has any value at all for other readers it will be that more persons than myself see that the Judy is not the Queen of Impeccability we thought she was. I'm not the Queen of anything, but as you know, Nabby, I don't lie and haven't in this case. Yes you have. No, I have not. You have. No I haven't but you consistently lie about this topic. Nope, you've consistently lied, and I've consistently told the truth. No, you have been the one telling the falsehoods, as anyone who checks out our respective claims will discover. I know you're very anxious to get this off your back without having to make that admission, I'm not, I couldn't care less. But my pitta gets aggravated when seeing someone lying through her teeth while trying to get away with it. Except that isn't what you're seeing. You're seeing somebody refusing to let you get away with your accusation that *they* are lying when, as you know, it's you. but the only way that's gonna happen is if you give me the last word. Understand? So it's all about Judy getting the last word ? In this case it is. I do not let accusations that I am dishonest stand. Well I have news for you; you want have it because in this case you don't deserve it. You don't have any choice. So just carry on this I never lie conversation with yourself. After my last word, it won't be necessary. See how that works? I don't believe you and your failure to produce anything other than I am right you are wrong probably will make more people question you self-proclaimed authority regarding facts in the future. You let me worry about that, OK? What you need to worry about is the fact that you lied and I'm not letting you get away with it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
Here America means the West in general --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: [FB Share] org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-the-pesticides-america [Email This Page] [add comment] e-pesticides-america#addcomments [Print] e-pesticides-america?tmpl=componentprint=1page= Mascagni reports: While the media has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported is the role that the United States has played - and continues to play - in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. [A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey)] A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey) [go to original article] Thanks for the Pesticides, America! By Evan Mascagni, Salon 11 August 13 fter eating a school lunch that was made with cooking oil tainted with the toxic pesticide monocrotophos, 23 Indian children were recently killed. While themedia has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals -indias-struggle-with-pesticides/?_r=1 in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported isthe role that the United States has played and continues to play in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. Monocrotophos is an organophosphorus insecticide developed by Ciba-Geigy (now Novartis) and first registered for use in the United States in 1965.Shortly thereafter, it was discovered to be extremely toxic, and was linked gerous-pesticide/ to massive bee die-offs, thousands of bird deaths and extreme risks to human health and the environment. This ultimately led the Environmental Protection Agency to restrictand eventually banits use in 1989 . But, even though monocrotophos was prohibited for use domestically, corporations were permitted to continue making the chemical for export only. In fact, in the five years after this insecticide was banned in the U.S., more than 1 million pounds were exported from U.S. ports , often arriving in some of the poorest countries in the world. This practice was and continues to be allowed under the federal law that states, pesticides that are not approved or registered for use in the U.S. may be manufactured in the U.S. and exported. In what became the ultimate irony, after the U.S. banned monocrotophos but continued to export it, traces of the chemical were found on produce imported back into the country. The U.S. General Accounting Office examined results of tests on imported produce for traces of unregistered pesticides between 1989-91, and monocrotophos accounted for 69 of the 88 violations s.html it discovered.This finding completed what David Weir and Mark Schapiro originally called QC the Circle of Poison,in which banned pesticides first harm American workers who help produce them for export, then travel abroad where they are routinely sprayed on workers in the fields and nearby communities, and ultimately return to the U.S. on imported food. Fast forward to 2013, where under current U.S. law it is still perfectly legal for a company to manufacture monocrotophos for export only. While current export data is difficult and costly to obtain and analyze, we do know that for some reason monocrotophos continues to be imported to the United States, but not for domestic use. In general, pesticides not approved for use in the United States are not allowed to be imported for use in the United States, but if that pesticide is coming into the U.S. for the sole purpose of formulation or packaging for export, its arrival is permitted . Whether it's for formulation, packaging or just a pit stop before ultimately landing somewhere else in the world, U.S. Customs and Census import data for 2013 shows that monocrotophos continues to be imported to the United States. The deaths of the 23 Indian schoolchildren happened more than twenty years after the pesticide's ban in the United States. It's time to reexamine our archaic export laws on chemicals not approved for use in the United States. Until we do so, we remain a crucial player in continuing the circle of poison. http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-the\ \ -pesticides-america e-pesticides-america
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Two outgoing energies and one incoming. You may choose which ones Share :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there. No I wasn't. But Judy is too arrogant to admit it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there. No I wasn't. But Judy is too arrogant to admit it. (guffaw) C'mon, Nabs. You got many of your facts wrong. You got yourself twisted up into a pretzel trying to refute me, and even so you couldn't address many of my points. Anybody who's interested can check out the discussion. It begins here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352762
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
The US has the greatest influence in the world, of any country. Unfortunately, that means when we have a bad idea, it spreads. When living in SE Asia, I had DDT sprayed into my bedroom every night for five years, late 50's, early 60's, for mosquito eradication. Thankfully no long term health effects for me. Also used to drink a lot of untreated water. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: [FB Share] http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http://readersupportednews.\ org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-the-pesticides-america [Email This Page] http://readersupportednews.org/staf2 [add comment] http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-th\ e-pesticides-america#addcomments [Print] http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/18851-thanks-for-th\ e-pesticides-america?tmpl=componentprint=1page= Mascagni reports: While the media has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported is the role that the United States has played - and continues to play - in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. [A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey)] A farmer sprays pesticide containing monocrotophos at Mohanpur village, about 28 miles west of Agartala, the capital of India's northeastern state of Tripura, 07/25/13. (photo: Reuters/Jayanta Dey) [go to original article] http://www.salon.com/2013/08/09/thanks_for_pesticides_america/ Thanks for the Pesticides, America! By Evan Mascagni, Salon 11 August 13 fter eating a school lunch that was made with cooking oil tainted with the toxic pesticide monocrotophos, 23 Indian children were recently killed. While themedia has highlighted the widespread use of highly hazardous chemicals http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/30/bihar-school-deaths-highlight\ -indias-struggle-with-pesticides/?_r=1 in India and subsequent health effects, what's largely unreported isthe role that the United States has played and continues to play in the tragic but preventable deaths from monocrotophos around the world. Monocrotophos is an organophosphorus insecticide developed http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Actives/monocrot.htm by Ciba-Geigy (now Novartis) and first registered for use in the United States in 1965.Shortly thereafter, it was discovered to be extremely toxic, and was linked http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/07/india-dead-children-and-a-dan\ gerous-pesticide/ to massive bee die-offs, thousands of bird deaths and extreme risks to human health and the environment. This ultimately led the Environmental Protection Agency to restrictand eventually banits use in 1989 http://www.fao.org/docrep/w5715e/w5715e04.htm . But, even though monocrotophos was prohibited for use domestically, corporations were permitted to continue making the chemical for export only. In fact, in the five years after this insecticide was banned in the U.S., more than 1 million pounds were exported from U.S. ports http://fasenet.org/pesticide.html , often arriving in some of the poorest countries in the world. This practice was and continues to be allowed under the federal law http://www.epa.gov/oppfead1/international/trade/ that states, pesticides that are not approved or registered for use in the U.S. may be manufactured in the U.S. and exported. In what became the ultimate irony, after the U.S. banned monocrotophos but continued to export it, traces of the chemical were found on produce imported back into the country. The U.S. General Accounting Office examined results of tests on imported produce for traces of unregistered pesticides between 1989-91, and monocrotophos accounted for 69 of the 88 violations http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/toxins/profiles/monocrotopho\ s.html it discovered.This finding completed what David Weir and Mark Schapiro originally called http://books.google.com/books/about/Circle_of_Poison.html?id=Ho4ZiTa2fR\ QC the Circle of Poison,in which banned pesticides first harm American workers who help produce them for export, then travel abroad where they are routinely sprayed on workers in the fields and nearby communities, and ultimately return to the U.S. on imported food. Fast forward to 2013, where under current U.S. law it is still perfectly legal for a company to manufacture monocrotophos for export only. While current export data is difficult and costly to obtain and analyze, we do know that for some reason monocrotophos continues to be imported to the United States, but not for domestic use. In general, pesticides not approved for use in the United States are not allowed to be imported for use in the United
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there. No I wasn't. But Judy is too arrogant to admit it. (guffaw) C'mon, Nabs. You got many of your facts wrong. No I didn't. You got yourself twisted up into a pretzel trying to refute me, and even so you couldn't address many of my points. You are gravely mistaken if you believe that all the points you raise here are of interest. That is a misunderstanding of how important your points are. Anybody who's interested can check out the discussion. It begins here: And it didn't end because 1) I find many of your post uninteresting and not worth answering to, and 2)Some people here actually have a job and friends and dog (!) to be with and simply don't bother to answer every little point you raise, and 3) Some people here might also be disinterested in endless discussions without an end. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352762
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there. No I wasn't. But Judy is too arrogant to admit it. (guffaw) C'mon, Nabs. You got many of your facts wrong. No I didn't. You absolutely did, Nabs. You got yourself twisted up into a pretzel trying to refute me, and even so you couldn't address many of my points. You are gravely mistaken if you believe that all the points you raise here are of interest. It's not a matter of interest, it's that they rebutted many of the things you said. That is a misunderstanding of how important your points are. Anybody who's interested can check out the discussion. It begins here: And it didn't end because Toots, it didn't end because I didn't bother responding to your last post. 1) I find many of your post uninteresting and not worth answering to, You answered all my posts in this discussion. and 2)Some people here actually have a job and friends and dog (!) to be with and simply don't bother to answer every little point you raise, and 3) Some people here might also be disinterested in endless discussions without an end. Nabby, don't embarrass yourself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks for posting this article Nabby, as horrific as it is. Thanks too for the beautiful crop circle this morning. I enjoyed a lot of what you wrote yesterday in your exchange with Judy. Even though he was wrong just about all the way down the line. No surprise there. No I wasn't. But Judy is too arrogant to admit it. (guffaw) C'mon, Nabs. You got many of your facts wrong. No I didn't. You absolutely did, Nabs. You got yourself twisted up into a pretzel trying to refute me, and even so you couldn't address many of my points. You are gravely mistaken if you believe that all the points you raise here are of interest. It's not a matter of interest, it's that they rebutted many of the things you said. That is a misunderstanding of how important your points are. Anybody who's interested can check out the discussion. It begins here: And it didn't end because Toots, it didn't end because I didn't bother responding to your last post. 1) I find many of your post uninteresting and not worth answering to, You answered all my posts in this discussion. No I didn't. Please waist more time to find out if you so please. and 2)Some people here actually have a job and friends and dog (!) to be with and simply don't bother to answer every little point you raise, and 3) Some people here might also be disinterested in endless discussions without an end. Nabby, don't embarrass yourself. Ditto
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: (snip) 1) I find many of your post uninteresting and not worth answering to, You answered all my posts in this discussion. No I didn't. Please waist more time to find out if you so please. I don't know what your problem is, but you did indeed answer all my posts in this discussion. You didn't answer everything in them, but you answered at least some things in all of them. It's on the record; check the archives. Better still, show me one post in our discussion that you didn't respond to. You won't, because you can't. This sort of really petty, obvious dishonesty isn't like you, Nabby.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: (snip) 1) I find many of your post uninteresting and not worth answering to, You answered all my posts in this discussion. No I didn't. Please waist more time to find out if you so please. I don't know what your problem is, but you did indeed answer all my posts in this discussion. You didn't answer everything in them, but you answered at least some things in all of them. It's on the record; check the archives. Well Judy, it looks like you haven't checked the record yourself this time, I did'nt even answer your last post in that discussion because I found your points repetitive and boring. Better still, show me one post in our discussion that you didn't respond to. You won't, because you can't. No you're the one obsessed with this stuff, please waste your time and dig out my answer to your last post. This sort of really petty, obvious dishonesty isn't like you, Nabby.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
Nabby! Thank God you're back! Dudy's about to drive me bananas. So I went looking for Bananagrams ha ha. No luck. RoryG, what happened? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: (snip) 1) I find many of your post uninteresting and not worth answering to, You answered all my posts in this discussion. No I didn't. Please waist more time to find out if you so please. I don't know what your problem is, but you did indeed answer all my posts in this discussion. You didn't answer everything in them, but you answered at least some things in all of them. It's on the record; check the archives. Well Judy, it looks like you haven't checked the record yourself this time, I did'nt even answer your last post in that discussion because I found your points repetitive and boring. Better still, show me one post in our discussion that you didn't respond to. You won't, because you can't. No you're the one obsessed with this stuff, please waste your time and dig out my answer to your last post. This sort of really petty, obvious dishonesty isn't like you, Nabby.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Nabby! Thank God you're back! We never left :-) Dudy's about to drive me bananas. So I went looking for Bananagrams ha ha. No luck. RoryG, what happened?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: (snip) 1) I find many of your post uninteresting and not worth answering to, You answered all my posts in this discussion. No I didn't. Please waist more time to find out if you so please. I don't know what your problem is, but you did indeed answer all my posts in this discussion. You didn't answer everything in them, but you answered at least some things in all of them. It's on the record; check the archives. Well Judy, it looks like you haven't checked the record yourself this time, I did'nt even answer your last post in that discussion because I found your points repetitive and boring. That's very funny, Nabby. You don't expect to get away with that claim, do you? Better still, show me one post in our discussion that you didn't respond to. You won't, because you can't. No you're the one obsessed with this stuff, Yes, I think people should be honest. You aren't being honest. please waste your time and dig out my answer to your last post. My last post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352908 Your answer to it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352918 I'll await your apology.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: (snip) 1) I find many of your post uninteresting and not worth answering to, You answered all my posts in this discussion. No I didn't. Please waist more time to find out if you so please. I don't know what your problem is, but you did indeed answer all my posts in this discussion. You didn't answer everything in them, but you answered at least some things in all of them. It's on the record; check the archives. Well Judy, it looks like you haven't checked the record yourself this time, I did'nt even answer your last post in that discussion because I found your points repetitive and boring. That's very funny, Nabby. You don't expect to get away with that claim, do you? Better still, show me one post in our discussion that you didn't respond to. You won't, because you can't. No you're the one obsessed with this stuff, Yes, I think people should be honest. You aren't being honest. Nor are you by doing some pretty creative snipping. please waste your time and dig out my answer to your last post. My last post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352908 Your answer to it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352918 I'll await your apology. You didn't post the last post of that discussion nor my answer since I didn't bother. Now, who's dishonest and how boring is all this ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: please waste your time and dig out my answer to your last post. My last post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352908 Your answer to it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352918 I'll await your apology. You didn't post the last post of that discussion I just posted the link to it above, headed Your answer to it. Yours was the last post of that discussion. My last post in the discussion was the one linked to above headed My last post. nor my answer since I didn't bother. You did bother. See the Your answer to it link above. Now, who's dishonest You are, unquestionably. I just documented it. Your only hope is to find a post from me to you in that discussion made after the one I linked to above. But there isn't any such post, and you are SOL. and how boring is all this ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: please waste your time and dig out my answer to your last post. My last post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352908 Your answer to it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352918 I'll await your apology. You didn't post the last post of that discussion I just posted the link to it above, headed Your answer to it. Yours was the last post of that discussion. My last post in the discussion was the one linked to above headed My last post. nor my answer since I didn't bother. You did bother. See the Your answer to it link above. Now, who's dishonest You are, unquestionably. I just documented it. Now I've had it with this. You didn't document anything except post posts, nor did you post the last one. What did you do with it, delete it so you could prove to be right ? You are lying AND demanding an apology. It doesn't suit you nor your reputation here very well.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for the Pesticides, America!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: please waste your time and dig out my answer to your last post. My last post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352908 Your answer to it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352918 I'll await your apology. You didn't post the last post of that discussion I just posted the link to it above, headed Your answer to it. Yours was the last post of that discussion. My last post in the discussion was the one linked to above headed My last post. nor my answer since I didn't bother. You did bother. See the Your answer to it link above. Now, who's dishonest You are, unquestionably. I just documented it. Now I've had it with this. You didn't document anything except post posts, What?? nor did you post the last one. Yours was the last one, as I keep saying. What did you do with it, delete it so you could prove to be right ? That's an inexcusable accusation, Nabby. I didn't delete a thing. I don't pull dishonest crap like that, and you know it. You are lying AND demanding an apology. It doesn't suit you nor your reputation here very well. I'm not lying. You made a bad mistake, and you can't admit it, so you try to blame it on me. Your reputation here, such as it was, has just gone straight down the tubes. You are not a person of integrity. BTW, posts deleted from Yahoo do not get deleted from the independent MailArchive: http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/ See if you can find it there. You can order the list by thread title or by date. And when you see that it's not there--because there never was any such post from me--you can come back and tell us you were wrong. Only you aren't going to look, because you know you won't find it, just as you couldn't find it in the Yahoo archive. You'll just keep trying to stonewall. Really, really crappy, shameful behavior, Nabs.
