Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
On Oct 8, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Tom wrote: Damn, I missed the 2 best moments, the handshake refusal as well as the "that one" moment...had the debate on but also had to deal with my kids. Hello, Youtube. Sal And you say *I* make excuses? ;-) Get on the stick girl. Are your kids old enough to appreciate history being made before their eyes? I was 5 years old when JFK was murdered. I remember it clearly but in sepia colored images. Sepia? I thought you were born in the 20th century, Tom, not the 19th. The emotions of the adults are still vivid. I was 10 when RJK & MLK fell and 11 when Apollo 11 landed. TV generation huh? To this day I carry the contrasting shock and wonder of those memories. I think the emotions expressed by the adults around me as the events occurred are in large part responsible for the lasting nature of the memories. Watching McCain's actions did not make me ashamed to be white. I was, however, surprised at how inept he is in his attempt to attain his goal. Potomac fever can reveal some strange things. The handshake thing was clearly a misunderstanding. And I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that "That one" was a poorly-worded choice and not reflective of some inherent prejudice on McCain's part. Actually, now I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he's so clearly out of his depth. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
On Oct 8, 2008, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote: At the bottom, you see where they DO shake hands at the very end of the debate. In the top video, McCain kinda avoids shaking his hand again, but he redirects obama to shake Cindy McCain's hand. Watch how she holds her hands as she moves around the room. She has her hands like that the entire time unless she's shaking someone's hand (Brokaw and Obama only, not even Michelle). The explanation they had up on TPM was that since they had already shaken hands, McCain was presenting his wife to Obama. That makes a lot more sense, since it was McCain who initiated the contact, and appeared to simply be redirecting Obama to his wife rather than refusing to acknowledge him. In fact, they not only shook hands previous to that but even embraced. Group hug, everyone! :) Cindy is probably so uncomfortable in these situations she doesn't really know what to do... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
On Oct 8, 2008, at 11:54 AM, do.rflex wrote: McCain refers to Obama as "that one" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNzA9LfMlmU McCain wouldn't shake Obama's hand here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak Thanks. Wow, unbelievable... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
Rick Archer wrote: > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Bhairitu > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:43 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy > as Judy and Raunchydog... > > > > To me it just says the RNC felt they couldn't win this election > and let McCain have his last hurrah. Otherwise they probably would have > run Romney. > > Did the RNC choose? Seems to me the voters did, in the primary. You're probably right but usually elephants get herded a certain direction. ;-) And then there would have been the caucuses which are not like primaries. And I think Romney and others dropped out before the convention. CNN showed a view of Republicans somewhere watching the debate and Democrats somewhere watching the debate. I'd love to have had a picture of those two views side by side. In years past you would have seen a bunch of business like people at the Republican gatherings whereas last night it looked like a Beavis and Butthead crowd. The Democrat's crowd looked way smarter.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:43 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog... To me it just says the RNC felt they couldn't win this election and let McCain have his last hurrah. Otherwise they probably would have run Romney. Did the RNC choose? Seems to me the voters did, in the primary.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
Sal Sunshine wrote: > On Oct 8, 2008, at 8:36 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > >> So consider it a shock on my part as well that John >> McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during >> a Presidential debate. He *has* to have known how >> that would look, and his disdain for Obama and his >> sense of superiority to him is so strong that he did >> it anyway. That made me ashamed to be white. > > Damn, I missed the 2 best moments, the handshake refusal > as well as the "that one" moment...had the debate on but > also had to deal with my kids. Hello, Youtube. > > Sal I didn't see the handshake refusal but did see the "that one" reference and thought it was abhorrent. I thought maybe he had a senior moment and couldn't remember Obama's name (these days were all getting there). But the 11 o'clock news even used that moment in clips of they showed. McCain shouldn't be running. He just looked like a tired and grumpy old man. To me it just says the RNC felt they couldn't win this election and let McCain have his last hurrah. Otherwise they probably would have run Romney. I think it's all downhill for the Republicans from here. And damn well time for those scum.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
On Oct 8, 2008, at 11:00 AM, sparaig wrote: McCain DID shake hands with Obama. However, watch Cindy McCain's body language as she strolls among the peons. Got a link? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
On Oct 8, 2008, at 8:36 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: So consider it a shock on my part as well that John McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during a Presidential debate. He *has* to have known how that would look, and his disdain for Obama and his sense of superiority to him is so strong that he did it anyway. That made me ashamed to be white. Damn, I missed the 2 best moments, the handshake refusal as well as the "that one" moment...had the debate on but also had to deal with my kids. Hello, Youtube. Sal
