Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
There is a lot of truth in what you say Ann - yet I think it is ignoring a great deal of evidence to believe that years of TM practice and TMSP practice ESPECIALY when done in a close knit community of other TMSP'ers does not lead to certain types of mentality. I'll just leave it at that. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
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On 10/4/2014 3:37 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: The semitic race includes Arabs, so if we blast Saudi Arabia are we being anti-semitics? /You are incorrect: the word semitic refers to a language group, not a race of people. You may have confused race and an ethno-religious group that originated from the Israelites in the ancient Near East./ And someone said to bash Zionism is being anti-Jewish. /When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You are talking anti-Semitism./ - Martin Luther King That's like saying all Christians are Republicans. /Non sequitur. Judaism is the religion, philosophy, and way of life of the Jewish people./ Zionists are a right wing political faction. /Non sequitur. Antisemitism is prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as a national, ethnic, religious or racial group. / As far as Dan goes I had him in my Dangeon anyway for being an abusive poster and only replied to comments he started indirectly about TV or movies. /So, you had Dan in your Jew folder. You realize you have just posted an anti-Semitic message, right?/ On 10/04/2014 12:07 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Let's face it, Rick is being practical. The Jews are very aggressive about any antisemitism and could get someone at Yahoo freaked enough to close FFL down. It may not be right to surrender, but it does avoid the danger not yet come. If Yahoo closed FFL, the lost would be significant, but if Rick bans antisemitism, the lost to the world's ability to have free speech would be hardly noticed. An easy call for Rick, methinks. Now if the various communities around the world got as aggressively defensive, hoo boy, who could then say anything about anything? Think of all the downtrodden folks who could equally claim the world has smacked them as badly as were the Jews. I've never confronted my Jewish friends about this.might have to do so, cuz this shit's gotta stop. And, hey, for what Israel is doing to Palestine while Jews around the world remain mostly silent, I say they've lost their right to bitch about Hitler. They should go back to dissing the Pharaoh.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
On 10/4/2014 3:23 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. /It has already been established that you are not following the FFL Guidelines. / You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words /Non sequitur. You are showing some definite signs of amti-Semitism with regards to Dan, the fact that he was Jewish and a proponent of TM makes the issue more complicated than you acknowledge. Also, there seems to be some gender bias directed toward Share. ///Apparently your supervisor at MIU was female. Go figure.// But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? /Non sequitur. It has already been established that you were the low man working in food service at MIU./// Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain /Non sequitur. It has already been established that the only person to report a glow in their brain after practicing TM was Barry, who claimed that at a Rama show the whole room turned golden and even the security guards saw it. Nobody has claimed to have seen a glowing brain in a Golden Dome at MUM - that's just the color of the roof material. Go figure. / that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? /Non sequitur. There are no TM bashers on this list//. It has already been established that TM is a religion.//The bashing of someone's religion is not allowed on FFL. Therefore you should refrain from bashing anyone's religion on FFL and avoid posting any anti-Semitic messages./ Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. /Non sequitur. It has already been established that the TMSP has no effect on a person's personal behavior. / *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Michael, imo Dan was often kind and or courteous to you and also imo your remark to Rick was low given that he was; also low in that Dan was no longer here to defend himself. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:56 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: since he never was courteous to me, as you claimed, and your assertion that I was behaving in a low manner based on his (nonexistent) courtesy to me, then my behavior was not low in any respect, so you did not address the scurrilous nature of your false allegation towards me, but its not unusual for a TM junkie to behave in such a fashion - I mean after all Marshy taught everyone to ignore the truth, say whatever you like and then tell everyone to pay no attention to what you said before. So I won't hold it against you - its just the upbringing you had in the Movement *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule So Michael, does this not count?! Share to Ann at 7:11 am: Ann, maybe courteous wasn't the best word. I think Dan brought a lot of fun and intelligence and sometimes gentleness to FFL. And actually I thoroughly enjoyed some of jedi's posts too. IMO, it's a loss that they're gone. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set. *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is that there is no TMO ADL! On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
On 10/4/2014 3:42 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael, anyone who takes such obvious pleasure in, as you did when Steve and Dan were arguing, such a person imo, has no credibility when it comes to saying what is or isn't WONDERFUL behavior. Maybe it's time to review the definition of a Troll - /A person who sends duplicitous messages to get angry responses./ Also the fact that though you've been shown, even by an objective lurker, how wrong you were about TMO and suicide, you have not recanted your original statement that the TMO ignores it. Plus the fact that you continue to make such negative allegations about people and an organization with whom you've had no contact in decades. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:23 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Michael, imo Dan was often kind and or courteous to you and also imo your remark to Rick was low given that he was; also low in that Dan was no longer here to defend himself. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:56 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: since he never was courteous to me, as you claimed, and your assertion that I was behaving in a low manner based on his (nonexistent) courtesy to me, then my behavior was not low in any respect, so you did not address the scurrilous nature of your false allegation towards me, but its not unusual for a TM junkie to behave in such a fashion - I mean after all Marshy taught everyone to ignore the truth, say whatever you like and then tell everyone to pay no attention to what you said before. So I won't hold it against you - its just the upbringing you had in the Movement *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule So Michael, does this not count?! Share to Ann at 7:11 am: Ann, maybe courteous wasn't the best word. I think Dan brought a lot of fun and intelligence and sometimes gentleness to FFL. And actually I thoroughly enjoyed some of jedi's posts too. IMO, it's a loss that they're gone. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set. *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is that there is no TMO ADL! On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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On 10/4/2014 4:35 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am only wrong about TM and suicide and the TMO and suicide in your mind. In what way did ANYONE negate what I said about the TMO NOT being inthe forefront of ANY attempts at providing succor for those suffering in Fairfield? /Non sequitur. It has already been established that you have not been within 1000 miles of Iowa in decades. Therefore you would have no idea what the residents of Fairfield are currently attempting in providing succor for those suffering. It has already been established that Rick Archer instigated this discussion group in an effort to help people with suicidal tendencies, case in point./ In fact, the lady who gave that very informative post affirmed the effort in Fairfield was NOT being led by the Movement. You really are a TM junkie aren't you? /Non sequitur. It has already been established that the practice of TM or TMSP has zero effects on suicide rates in Iowa. It has not been established that the practice of TM is addictive. Case in point./ *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 4:42 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Michael, anyone who takes such obvious pleasure in, as you did when Steve and Dan were arguing, such a person imo, has no credibility when it comes to saying what is or isn't WONDERFUL behavior. Also the fact that though you've been shown, even by an objective lurker, how wrong you were about TMO and suicide, you have not recanted your original statement that the TMO ignores it. Plus the fact that you continue to make such negative allegations about people and an organization with whom you've had no contact in decades. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:23 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Michael, imo Dan was often kind and or courteous to you and also imo your remark to Rick was low given that he was; also low in that Dan was no longer here to defend himself. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:56 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: since he never was courteous to me, as you claimed, and your assertion that I was behaving in a low manner based on his (nonexistent) courtesy to me, then my behavior was not low in any respect, so you did not address the scurrilous nature of your false allegation towards me, but its not unusual for a TM junkie to behave in such a fashion - I mean after all Marshy taught everyone to ignore the truth, say whatever you like and then tell everyone to pay no attention to what you said before. So I won't hold it against you - its just the upbringing you had in the Movement *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule So Michael, does this not count?! Share to Ann at 7:11 am: Ann, maybe courteous wasn't the best word. I think Dan brought a lot of fun and intelligence and sometimes gentleness to FFL. And actually I thoroughly enjoyed some of jedi's posts too. IMO, it's a loss that they're gone. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There is a lot of truth in what you say Ann - yet I think it is ignoring a great deal of evidence to believe that years of TM practice and TMSP practice ESPECIALY when done in a close knit community of other TMSP'ers does not lead to certain types of mentality. I'll just leave it at that. Now, here is where I think you are correct but I also think there is the chicken and the egg thing going on here. When you get too many people of like minds or of similar interest together in a community (let alone a room) you are definitely going to get a kind of homogenous aspect that arises. There will be a tendency for many of these like-minded folks to tow and to proselytize along the party lines. And this will be self perpetuating. I look at some of my old acquaintances on FB and their interaction with each other and there are a lot of JGD's spoken amid the platitudes we are all familiar with - platitudes about health and death and knowledge and MMY. I mean, I lived in FF for 4 years and have seen it and been part of it so I recognize that it is still going on, not that it is all bad or all mush brained but there is a mentality, as you say, that exists. I don't, however, necessarily think TM creates this mentality (and not every person in FF is like what I have described, BTW) I think those who are followers and wanna-be-believers are drawn to communities or at least to movements that encourage mass homogeneity or simply find themselves nestling down in the aspects of these interest groups that allow for a kind of think/speak and way of life that is firmly ensconced in whatever those movements support. I'm getting lost in my words here but do you see what I am trying to say? The video someone posted of the old MIU recruitment tape or whatever it was is a typical example. All these soft spoken and rather naive (but well intentioned) people speaking the same lingo and making sure they sound like everyone else who believes what they do. You'll see it in church groups, the military, the RCMP, sports teams etc, etc. It is everywhere. TM has its own flavor and lingo but similar aspects of this is everywhere on the planet. I guess my point is that people gravitate towards like minded others where they feel safe and understood and liked. In order to accomplish this we all conform a little bit to make our acceptance with others happen. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand
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I find it fascinating that those hell bent on knocking TM are simply the other side of the coin. Anti-TBs, as fundamentalist in their beliefs as they were, as cult fanatics. It is a process to grow out of one thing and into another, but those trying to escape their own cult mentality, accuse everyone else of having it too. What they don't recognize is that the TM practice has a goal, and that goal is spiritual liberation, established in Being, enlightenment. So, they point out all the mood making in the MUM community, and feel good about themselves for as long as it takes to write their screed. But at the end of the day, there is a fundamental (there's that word again) realization, that they have failed, and simply pointing fingers now, will never ensure their success. It is a sad thing, to see those locked in waking state, actually champion it, because they cannot imagine living any other way. Solution: Apologize to yourselves, for wasting so much of your life, and start TM, again. Otherwise, their blindness just overtakes them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There is a lot of truth in what you say Ann - yet I think it is ignoring a great deal of evidence to believe that years of TM practice and TMSP practice ESPECIALY when done in a close knit community of other TMSP'ers does not lead to certain types of mentality. I'll just leave it at that. Now, here is where I think you are correct but I also think there is the chicken and the egg thing going on here. When you get too many people of like minds or of similar interest together in a community (let alone a room) you are definitely going to get a kind of homogenous aspect that arises. There will be a tendency for many of these like-minded folks to tow and to proselytize along the party lines. And this will be self perpetuating. I look at some of my old acquaintances on FB and their interaction with each other and there are a lot of JGD's spoken amid the platitudes we are all familiar with - platitudes about health and death and knowledge and MMY. I mean, I lived in FF for 4 years and have seen it and been part of it so I recognize that it is still going on, not that it is all bad or all mush brained but there is a mentality, as you say, that exists. I don't, however, necessarily think TM creates this mentality (and not every person in FF is like what I have described, BTW) I think those who are followers and wanna-be-believers are drawn to communities or at least to movements that encourage mass homogeneity or simply find themselves nestling down in the aspects of these interest groups that allow for a kind of think/speak and way of life that is firmly ensconced in whatever those movements support. I'm getting lost in my words here but do you see what I am trying to say? The video someone posted of the old MIU recruitment tape or whatever it was is a typical example. All these soft spoken and rather naive (but well intentioned) people speaking the same lingo and making sure they sound like everyone else who believes what they do. You'll see it in church groups, the military, the RCMP, sports teams etc, etc. It is everywhere. TM has its own flavor and lingo but similar aspects of this is everywhere on the planet. I guess my point is that people gravitate towards like minded others where they feel safe and understood and liked. In order to accomplish this we all conform a little bit to make our acceptance with others happen. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually
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Jesus, Feste! If you take Willy Tex the Texan whack-o as any kind of authority on anything except being a nut job then I would have to say your years of TMSP have really done a number on you. Most on FFL have Willy posts routed automatically to the trash. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what
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I figure Rick took the initiative to set this place up, and moderate it, and it is his call. I certainly would not want the responsibility for maintaining FFL, and I consider it a service of his, that I really enjoy. As long as no one gets too serious about it, FFL is fine as it stands. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. On 10/4/2014 8:42 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous /Considering that MJ was posting anti-Semitic messages about Dan's religion and personal faith, I would rate Dan's responses to MJ pretty constrained and courteous, in context. How can you have a conversation with someone like MJ who constantly posts non sequiturs using inferences or conclusions that do not follow from the premises or evidence presented. There is no evidence that Dan's teacher was a charlatan, con-man, thief, or seducer of women, or that his religion is fake. Dan should have the right to post here his opinion on the spiritual life without personal attacks.//It was pretty obvious who was breaking the FFL Guidelines./ /It has already been established that Jedi_Spock was banned just for defaming the Torah./ /Go figure./ and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
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On 10/4/2014 9:21 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. /Everyone does realize that Dan is probably reading every message posted here, right?The conversation with Dan might not be over if he chooses to joins us on Google Groups or another Yahoo Group. Not that he cares anymore - he's probably already reached conclusions about the integrity of the current respondents on FFL. Sometimes, silence says more about people than what they do say. Go figure./ Usenet Archives: http://tinyurl.com/m3gjw3r On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
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Richard, thank you for helping me find the words. That's what I meant when I
said Dan was courteous to MJ. I meant compared to MJ's continual and
inflammatory remarks, Dan was courteous and sometimes even gentle with him.
On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:28 AM, 'Richard J. Williams'
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been
courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous
wasn't the right choice of words
But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what
Danny Boy said or did, eh?
Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe
that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are
doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior.
On 10/4/2014 8:42 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ.
First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous
Considering that MJ was posting anti-Semitic messages about Dan's religion and
personal faith, I would rate Dan's responses to MJ pretty constrained and
courteous, in context.
How can you have a conversation with someone like MJ who constantly posts non
sequiturs using inferences or conclusions that do not follow from the premises
or evidence presented. There is no evidence that Dan's teacher was a
charlatan, con-man, thief, or seducer of women, or that his religion is
fake. Dan should have the right to post here his opinion on the spiritual
life without personal attacks. It was pretty obvious who was breaking the FFL
Guidelines. It has already been established that Jedi_Spock was banned just for
defaming the Torah. Go figure.
and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling
on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that
Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM
induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into
kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back
her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here
and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see
beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she
writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends
bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by
all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL.
Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably
leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This
is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
feste, I agree with all you say here. Or at least, make their banishment temporary, say for one week. I think people should be given a warning and probationary time before being banned completely. On Sunday, October 5, 2014 7:47 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic.Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way.Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end.Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive.Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Well, I think someone who has it, should send me a check for a million dollars. Make that two million. Why do some here act as if they are members of congress, finalizing legislation? Good luck with that Share, unless you are willing to issue the warning, track those on probation, and determine when they have violated same, all with Rick and Alex's blessing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : feste, I agree with all you say here. Or at least, make their banishment temporary, say for one week. I think people should be given a warning and probationary time before being banned completely. On Sunday, October 5, 2014 7:47 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
On 10/4/2014 10:20 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. /Non sequitur. All we need to know is Rick's rule. //What is Rick's rule? Just explain it to us using good grammar in plain English. It's not complicated - or is it?/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Ann, first of all, there is also Seraphita, so three women. Secondly, I think
there are valid reasons why I'm more comfortable with the FFL men rather than
the women. Finally, my main point was that after Dan's booting, your initial
comments about him were not positive. And yet, you had just been having what
seemed like a friendly exchange with him!
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:01 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I
would worry if they were to like me.
Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards
me would positively alarm me.
I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality
wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his.
Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could
respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk?
He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far
as the accuracy of your statement goes.
As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was
booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say
nothing positive about him.
I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll
assume you said yes.
Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He
doesn't appear in the least misogynistic.Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I
mean this in a positive way.Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to
the end.Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him
because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten
him alive.Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes
some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One
thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw
Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his
wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his
Cheerios?
As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician.
Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on
this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here.
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous
to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the
right choice of words
But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what
Danny Boy said or did, eh?
Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that
attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are
doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior.
I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not
for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a
good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but
not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not
responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort
of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with
others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is
careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair
enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a
friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for
what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and
she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is
unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can
understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less
confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a
condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Are you really as weak as you appear? All we NEED to know is Rick's rule... Really? A pair of balls would be an ample substitute, Richard. I hope all your whining is in jest. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/4/2014 10:20 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. Non sequitur. All we need to know is Rick's rule. What is Rick's rule? Just explain it to us using good grammar in plain English. It's not complicated - or is it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
On 10/5/2014 7:47 AM, feste37 wrote: I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. /So, we are agreed./ But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. /And agreed./ I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. /The entire thread is viewable in the FFL Mail Archives:// // //http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/info.html/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I find it fascinating that those hell bent on knocking TM are simply the other side of the coin. Anti-TBs, as fundamentalist in their beliefs as they were, as cult fanatics. It is a process to grow out of one thing and into another, but those trying to escape their own cult mentality, accuse everyone else of having it too. What they don't recognize is that the TM practice has a goal, and that goal is spiritual liberation, established in Being, enlightenment. True enough. I mean, I read bawee and MJ and others who are so anti-belief in belief and it astounds me that they don't see they have replaced one thing for another. bawee is positively aglow with it and yet - he can't see the substitution he has made. He still wallows in deep-seated beliefs and talks the talk that he does. He has simply taken off his rose-colored glasses and replaced them with green-tinted models. So, they point out all the mood making in the MUM community, and feel good about themselves for as long as it takes to write their screed. But at the end of the day, there is a fundamental (there's that word again) realization, that they have failed, and simply pointing fingers now, will never ensure their success. It is a sad thing, to see those locked in waking state, actually champion it, because they cannot imagine living any other way. Solution: Apologize to yourselves, for wasting so much of your life, and start TM, again. Otherwise, their blindness just overtakes them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Willy who? :-D On 10/05/2014 07:03 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Jesus, Feste! If you take Willy Tex the Texan whack-o as any kind of authority on anything except being a nut job then I would have to say your years of TMSP have really done a number on you. Most on FFL have Willy posts routed automatically to the trash. *From:* feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame
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On 10/5/2014 9:03 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Jesus, Feste! If you take Willy Tex the Texan whack-o /Obviously you are prejudiced against Texans./ as any kind of authority on anything except being a nut job then I would have to say your years of TMSP have really done a number on you. /Non sequitur. You have in a previous message already established that the TMSP has zero effect on an individuals personality//./ Most on FFL have Willy posts routed automatically to the trash. /You realize that creating folders and filters in Yahoo Mail in order to read FFL discussion messages is evidence of prejudice, right?// Yahoo FFL is supposed to be a threaded discussion. When readers view FFL messages in email they don't get the benefit of sequential, threaded message structure. Often people can't follow along with the conversation and take things out of context when messages are posted as mail replies. Case in point./ *From:* feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might
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That's rich and typically TM-ish. Like saying TM leads to enlightenment if you compare it to how unenlightened a heroin addict is. The TM-er's aren't really enlightened, but by comparison, we can SAY that its LIKE enlightenment. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Richard, thank you for helping me find the words. That's what I meant when I said Dan was courteous to MJ. I meant compared to MJ's continual and inflammatory remarks, Dan was courteous and sometimes even gentle with him. On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:28 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. On 10/4/2014 8:42 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous Considering that MJ was posting anti-Semitic messages about Dan's religion and personal faith, I would rate Dan's responses to MJ pretty constrained and courteous, in context. How can you have a conversation with someone like MJ who constantly posts non sequiturs using inferences or conclusions that do not follow from the premises or evidence presented. There is no evidence that Dan's teacher was a charlatan, con-man, thief, or seducer of women, or that his religion is fake. Dan should have the right to post here his opinion on the spiritual life without personal attacks.It was pretty obvious who was breaking the FFL Guidelines. It has already been established that Jedi_Spock was banned just for defaming the Torah. Go figure. and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
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On 10/5/2014 11:53 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Willy who? :-D /The Willy who sent you running over to Yahoo Groups? / /Subject: The Rainbow Body// //Author: Willytex// //Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental// //Date: 8/10/13// //https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/KEFNDD8uka0 https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/KEFNDD8uka0/ /So, why do almost all of your messages all end on one line, and all begin with RE?/ On 10/05/2014 07:03 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Jesus, Feste! If you take Willy Tex the Texan whack-o as any kind of authority on anything except being a nut job then I would have to say your years of TMSP have really done a number on you. Most on FFL have Willy posts routed automatically to the trash. *From:* feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse
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On 10/5/2014 3:11 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: That's rich and typically TM-ish. /Non sequitur. There are no TM-ish - that's just an acronym you made up for the purposes of confusing the issue. / Like saying TM leads to enlightenment if you compare it to how unenlightened a heroin addict is. /Non sequitur. It has not been established that TM leads to enlightenment./ The TM-er's aren't really enlightened, but by comparison, we can SAY that its LIKE enlightenment. /Non sequitur. There are no TM-er's - that's just an acronym you made up for the purposes of confusing the issue. / *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 5, 2014 10:33 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Richard, thank you for helping me find the words. That's what I meant when I said Dan was courteous to MJ. I meant compared to MJ's continual and inflammatory remarks, Dan was courteous and sometimes even gentle with him. On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:28 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. On 10/4/2014 8:42 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com mailto:awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous /Considering that MJ was posting anti-Semitic messages about Dan's religion and personal faith, I would rate Dan's responses to MJ pretty constrained and courteous, in context. How can you have a conversation with someone like MJ who constantly posts non sequiturs using inferences or conclusions that do not follow from the premises or evidence presented. There is no evidence that Dan's teacher was a charlatan, con-man, thief, or seducer of women, or that his religion is fake. Dan should have the right to post here his opinion on the spiritual life without personal attacks.//It was pretty obvious who was breaking the FFL Guidelines./ /It has already been established that Jedi_Spock was banned just for defaming the Torah./ /Go figure./ and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
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Exactly. They are still dealing with their same cult-addled mindset, only pointing it in the opposite direction. No transcendence, and a lot of attachment. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I find it fascinating that those hell bent on knocking TM are simply the other side of the coin. Anti-TBs, as fundamentalist in their beliefs as they were, as cult fanatics. It is a process to grow out of one thing and into another, but those trying to escape their own cult mentality, accuse everyone else of having it too. What they don't recognize is that the TM practice has a goal, and that goal is spiritual liberation, established in Being, enlightenment. True enough. I mean, I read bawee and MJ and others who are so anti-belief in belief and it astounds me that they don't see they have replaced one thing for another. bawee is positively aglow with it and yet - he can't see the substitution he has made. He still wallows in deep-seated beliefs and talks the talk that he does. He has simply taken off his rose-colored glasses and replaced them with green-tinted models. So, they point out all the mood making in the MUM community, and feel good about themselves for as long as it takes to write their screed. But at the end of the day, there is a fundamental (there's that word again) realization, that they have failed, and simply pointing fingers now, will never ensure their success. It is a sad thing, to see those locked in waking state, actually champion it, because they cannot imagine living any other way. Solution: Apologize to yourselves, for wasting so much of your life, and start TM, again. Otherwise, their blindness just overtakes them.
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Poor Michael, there he goes again, now, in the tradition of Salyavin, telling us whose posts we should read, and even upping the ante, by informing us of our reading habits. And yet, it is the Michaels and Salyavins who claim to be the most clear eyed and objective observers. Don't it just always work out like that? Those who rail against supposed misplaced trust and authority, and the first to display those autocratic tendencies when an opportunity arises.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Jesus, Feste! If you take Willy Tex the Texan whack-o as any kind of authority on anything except being a nut job then I would have to say your years of TMSP have really done a number on you. Most on FFL have Willy posts routed automatically to the trash. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes
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forget ebola. foot in mouth disease, Michael? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That's rich and typically TM-ish. Like saying TM leads to enlightenment if you compare it to how unenlightened a heroin addict is. The TM-er's aren't really enlightened, but by comparison, we can SAY that its LIKE enlightenment. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Richard, thank you for helping me find the words. That's what I meant when I said Dan was courteous to MJ. I meant compared to MJ's continual and inflammatory remarks, Dan was courteous and sometimes even gentle with him. On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:28 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. On 10/4/2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous Considering that MJ was posting anti-Semitic messages about Dan's religion and personal faith, I would rate Dan's responses to MJ pretty constrained and courteous, in context. How can you have a conversation with someone like MJ who constantly posts non sequiturs using inferences or conclusions that do not follow from the premises or evidence presented. There is no evidence that Dan's teacher was a charlatan, con-man, thief, or seducer of women, or that his religion is fake. Dan should have the right to post here his opinion on the spiritual life without personal attacks. It was pretty obvious who was breaking the FFL Guidelines. It has already been established that Jedi_Spock was banned just for defaming the Torah. Go figure. and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
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I think it was highly inappropriate for Dan to go all nuclear over Jedi's comment. There was no threat. Just an opinion Dan found offensive. That said, I'd like also, to see them both reinstated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : feste, I agree with all you say here. Or at least, make their banishment temporary, say for one week. I think people should be given a warning and probationary time before being banned completely. On Sunday, October 5, 2014 7:47 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't
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You like you god WIlly Tex have reading comprehension problems - in no way does my post tell anyone whose post to read, nor has Sal ever done so to my knowledge. But it is in the TM tradition to make shit up, so I'll cut you some slack since even tho you claim not to do TM much anymore, you still do all things TM-ish. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Poor Michael, there he goes again, now, in the tradition of Salyavin, telling us whose posts we should read, and even upping the ante, by informing us of our reading habits. And yet, it is the Michaels and Salyavins who claim to be the most clear eyed and objective observers. Don't it just always work out like that? Those who rail against supposed misplaced trust and authority, and the first to display those autocratic tendencies when an opportunity arises.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Jesus, Feste! If you take Willy Tex the Texan whack-o as any kind of authority on anything except being a nut job then I would have to say your years of TMSP have really done a number on you. Most on FFL have Willy posts routed automatically to the trash. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words
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Here's the great mystery Michael, and yes, it is hard to get your head around it. Life is Bliss, even when it's not. It's still bliss. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You like you god WIlly Tex have reading comprehension problems - in no way does my post tell anyone whose post to read, nor has Sal ever done so to my knowledge. But it is in the TM tradition to make shit up, so I'll cut you some slack since even tho you claim not to do TM much anymore, you still do all things TM-ish. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Poor Michael, there he goes again, now, in the tradition of Salyavin, telling us whose posts we should read, and even upping the ante, by informing us of our reading habits. And yet, it is the Michaels and Salyavins who claim to be the most clear eyed and objective observers. Don't it just always work out like that? Those who rail against supposed misplaced trust and authority, and the first to display those autocratic tendencies when an opportunity arises.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Jesus, Feste! If you take Willy Tex the Texan whack-o as any kind of authority on anything except being a nut job then I would have to say your years of TMSP have really done a number on you. Most on FFL have Willy posts routed automatically to the trash. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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On 10/5/2014 7:49 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You like you god WIlly Tex have reading comprehension problems - in no way does my post tell anyone whose post to read, nor has Sal ever done so to my knowledge. But it is in the TM tradition to make shit up, so I'll cut you some slack since even tho you claim not to do TM much anymore, you still do all things TM-ish. /Non sequitur. There is no TM tradition. You are trying to mind-control everyone by posting cult propaganda to the group. We will cut you some slack because you have a comprehension problem.//There is no TM/ - e/veryone meditates and we are all transcending all the time, even without a technique. / *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 5, 2014 6:38 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Poor Michael, there he goes again, now, in the tradition of Salyavin, telling us whose posts we should read, and even upping the ante, by informing us of our reading habits. And yet, it is the Michaels and Salyavins who claim to be the most clear eyed and objective observers. Don't it just always work out like that? Those who rail against supposed misplaced trust and authority, and the first to display those autocratic tendencies when an opportunity arises.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Jesus, Feste! If you take Willy Tex the Texan whack-o as any kind of authority on anything except being a nut job then I would have to say your years of TMSP have really done a number on you. Most on FFL have Willy posts routed automatically to the trash. *From:* feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule I think that both Dan and jedi should be reinstated, since they were unjustly removed. But also, I think Dan should drop his ridiculous complaint to the ADL, which has no substance and is a waste of their time. I suggest that if anyone wants the best commentary on this incident he or she should read the posts of Richard J. Williams, since every one of them is spot-on in its analysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize
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On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as /anti-Semetic/, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. / Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure./ P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
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Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure. P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
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feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is
that there is no TMO ADL!
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of
Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old
Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous,
vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary
criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his
hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and
libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very
curious double standards operating here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
H,Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty ofanti-religion to
go around -- not just against the Jews. Ifsomeone says TM is of the devil etc.
with ALL CAPS etcwill yougive equal warnings?
Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock'smessage as
anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock'sopinion about the Jewish
religion. It looks like Rick panicked andgot really scared when Dan threatened
to file a report to the ADL,so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on
him posting.
Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's beendeleted. This
should be notice to you: you could be banned fromFFL for expressing your
opinion and all you messages deleted forever.Go figure.
P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficultto follow the
conversation, and when you fail to click on Showmessage history, other
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
On 10/3/2014 12:13 PM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ... imagine a White Supremacist were in here spewing outrageous nastiness on a regular basis. It looks like Rick hasn't been reading the messages on his own discussion group. Go figure. /Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting. If you wouldn't say it in public or with a group of friends, don't post it./ https://info.yahoo.com/guidelines/us/yahoo/groups/ I think most all would agree that he should be banned. So it’s a matter of degree, and when someone moves a bit too far in that direction, in my opinion, he should be warned and if he ignores the warning, banned. *From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Duveyoung *Sent:* Friday, October 3, 2014 11:36 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Free speech allows the negativity addicts to expose themselves for what they are, see? Don't get me wrongly -- I'd toss out about half of the folks posting here regularly for their vile trolling and personal attacks. But that's just me as if it were Edg's Party. If you were throwing an actual real world party and these folks showed up, I'd never come to one of your parties again. But now that they're here, lemonade can be made by pointing out that these broken psyches were never helped by TM -- a strong warning to any who are being sucked into the promised-heavens. Imagine if you'd attended a 1st lecture and Nabby and Willy were there saying, I'm a long time TMer! -- would you have started? Ugh, huh? Oh, maybe YOU would, but not meI'd judge the technique by the results. Of course, if your party were the ideal conversation pit with everyone being civil, informed, logical -- I wouldn't be allowed, because I love to scream. Sigh..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
two birds, one stone. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure. P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
It seems I have replaced Turq as the most reviled person here on FFL - ahh, the company I keep, Curtis, Turq and all the other gods! I don't hate Marshy and Company, just disgusted by their behavior - so now tell me Feste, what sort of libel have I committed, eh? Tell me what I have said that is libelous, given the accepted definition of libel, which is a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation It is only libel if it is written and published, and if it is false. If true, it cannot be libel and if it is unclear whether or not it is true, but the author as clearly identified the statement as opinion then it is not libel. Much of what I have written here has been identified by me as my opinion and the rest, well, I invite the Movement to sue me anytime it likes. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure. P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
It seems I have replaced Turq as the most reviled person here on FFL Spellcheck, dude. It's spelled r-i-d-i-c-u-l-e-d. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It seems I have replaced Turq as the most reviled person here on FFL - ahh, the company I keep, Curtis, Turq and all the other gods! I don't hate Marshy and Company, just disgusted by their behavior - so now tell me Feste, what sort of libel have I committed, eh? Tell me what I have said that is libelous, given the accepted definition of libel, which is a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation It is only libel if it is written and published, and if it is false. If true, it cannot be libel and if it is unclear whether or not it is true, but the author as clearly identified the statement as opinion then it is not libel. Much of what I have written here has been identified by me as my opinion and the rest, well, I invite the Movement to sue me anytime it likes. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure. P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is that there is no TMO ADL! On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure. P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Good one Fleet! From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule It seems I have replaced Turq as the most reviled person here on FFL Spellcheck, dude. It's spelled r-i-d-i-c-u-l-e-d. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It seems I have replaced Turq as the most reviled person here on FFL - ahh, the company I keep, Curtis, Turq and all the other gods! I don't hate Marshy and Company, just disgusted by their behavior - so now tell me Feste, what sort of libel have I committed, eh? Tell me what I have said that is libelous, given the accepted definition of libel, which is a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation It is only libel if it is written and published, and if it is false. If true, it cannot be libel and if it is unclear whether or not it is true, but the author as clearly identified the statement as opinion then it is not libel. Much of what I have written here has been identified by me as my opinion and the rest, well, I invite the Movement to sue me anytime it likes. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure. P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
I agree with Feste. As much as I don't care much for Jedi due to his having been creepy and offensive in private emails to me in the past, I don't think his comment about the Torah and Judaism warranted a ban from FFL. As for booting Dan, I don't really care one way or the other. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure. P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
So Michael, does this not count?!
Share to Ann at 7:11 am: Ann, maybe courteous wasn't the best word. I think Dan
brought a lot of fun and intelligence and sometimes gentleness to FFL. And
actually I thoroughly enjoyed some of jedi's posts too. IMO, it's a loss that
they're gone.
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson
mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any
willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made
a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly
exposed.
But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is
just really alright.
Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable
action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set.
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference
is that there is no TMO ADL!
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of
Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old
Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous,
vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary
criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his
hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and
libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very
curious double standards operating here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
H,Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty ofanti-religion to
go around -- not just against the Jews. Ifsomeone says TM is of the devil etc.
with ALL CAPS etcwill yougive equal warnings?
Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock'smessage as
anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock'sopinion about the Jewish
religion. It looks like Rick panicked andgot really scared when Dan threatened
to file a report to the ADL,so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on
him posting.
Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's beendeleted. This
should be notice to you: you could be banned fromFFL for expressing your
opinion and all you messages deleted forever.Go figure.
P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficultto follow the
conversation, and when you fail to click on Showmessage history, other
informants don't even know what Rick's ruleis about posting messages.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Michael, I do realize that you twice called me a liar in this post. Plus you
implied that I said or wrote what you put in quotation marks in the last
paragraph.
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson
mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any
willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made
a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly
exposed.
But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is
just really alright.
Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable
action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set.
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference
is that there is no TMO ADL!
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of
Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old
Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous,
vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary
criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his
hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and
libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very
curious double standards operating here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
H,Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty ofanti-religion to
go around -- not just against the Jews. Ifsomeone says TM is of the devil etc.
with ALL CAPS etcwill yougive equal warnings?
Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock'smessage as
anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock'sopinion about the Jewish
religion. It looks like Rick panicked andgot really scared when Dan threatened
to file a report to the ADL,so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on
him posting.
Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's beendeleted. This
should be notice to you: you could be banned fromFFL for expressing your
opinion and all you messages deleted forever.Go figure.
P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficultto follow the
conversation, and when you fail to click on Showmessage history, other
informants don't even know what Rick's ruleis about posting messages.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
I viewed it as burning a flag. It's too bad, because something like that is usually in the rearview mirror in a matter minutes unless someone overreacts, as Dan did. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I agree with Feste. As much as I don't care much for Jedi due to his having been creepy and offensive in private emails to me in the past, I don't think his comment about the Torah and Judaism warranted a ban from FFL. As for booting Dan, I don't really care one way or the other. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure. P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
since he never was courteous to me, as you claimed, and your assertion that I was behaving in a low manner based on his (nonexistent) courtesy to me, then my behavior was not low in any respect, so you did not address the scurrilous nature of your false allegation towards me, but its not unusual for a TM junkie to behave in such a fashion - I mean after all Marshy taught everyone to ignore the truth, say whatever you like and then tell everyone to pay no attention to what you said before. So I won't hold it against you - its just the upbringing you had in the Movement From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule So Michael, does this not count?! Share to Ann at 7:11 am: Ann, maybe courteous wasn't the best word. I think Dan brought a lot of fun and intelligence and sometimes gentleness to FFL. And actually I thoroughly enjoyed some of jedi's posts too. IMO, it's a loss that they're gone. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is that there is no TMO ADL! On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure. P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Let's face it, Rick is being practical. The Jews are very aggressive about any antisemitism and could get someone at Yahoo freaked enough to close FFL down. It may not be right to surrender, but it does avoid the danger not yet come. If Yahoo closed FFL, the lost would be significant, but if Rick bans antisemitism, the lost to the world's ability to have free speech would be hardly noticed. An easy call for Rick, methinks. Now if the various communities around the world got as aggressively defensive, hoo boy, who could then say anything about anything? Think of all the downtrodden folks who could equally claim the world has smacked them as badly as were the Jews. I've never confronted my Jewish friends about this.might have to do so, cuz this shit's gotta stop. And, hey, for what Israel is doing to Palestine while Jews around the world remain mostly silent, I say they've lost their right to bitch about Hitler. They should go back to dissing the Pharaoh.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Michael, imo Dan was often kind and or courteous to you and also imo your
remark to Rick was low given that he was; also low in that Dan was no longer
here to defend himself.
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:56 PM, Michael Jackson
mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
since he never was courteous to me, as you claimed, and your assertion
that I was behaving in a low manner based on his (nonexistent) courtesy to
me, then my behavior was not low in any respect, so you did not address the
scurrilous nature of your false allegation towards me, but its not unusual for
a TM junkie to behave in such a fashion - I mean after all Marshy taught
everyone to ignore the truth, say whatever you like and then tell everyone to
pay no attention to what you said before.
So I won't hold it against you - its just the upbringing you had in the Movement
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
So Michael, does this not count?!
Share to Ann at 7:11 am: Ann, maybe courteous wasn't the best word. I think Dan
brought a lot of fun and intelligence and sometimes gentleness to FFL. And
actually I thoroughly enjoyed some of jedi's posts too. IMO, it's a loss that
they're gone.
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson
mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any
willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made
a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly
exposed.
But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is
just really alright.
Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable
action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set.
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference
is that there is no TMO ADL!
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of
Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old
Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous,
vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary
criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his
hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and
libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very
curious double standards operating here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
H,Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty ofanti-religion to
go around -- not just against the Jews. Ifsomeone says TM is of the devil etc.
with ALL CAPS etcwill yougive equal warnings?
Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock'smessage as
anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock'sopinion about the Jewish
religion. It looks like Rick panicked andgot really scared when Dan threatened
to file a report to the ADL,so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on
him posting.
Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's beendeleted. This
should be notice to you: you could be banned fromFFL for expressing your
opinion and all you messages deleted forever.Go figure.
P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficultto follow the
conversation, and when you fail to click on Showmessage history, other
informants don't even know what Rick's ruleis about posting messages.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
On 10/4/2014 10:08 AM, feste37 wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. /It looks like the forum has lost it's moral compass and without Judy to moderate, the group has fallen further into disrepute. To make matters worse, now the apparent victim has been banned too. Obviously there's some prejudice when a religious belief can't even be discussed.// // //This all could have been settled with just a few words in a private email or two. // // //It looks like attention has been called to the rampant anti-Semitism and libelous accusations posted to the FFL forum - and now the cover-up with the deletion of the offending message. While the informants get to continue posting their negative propaganda and gend//er bias. / ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as /anti-Semetic/, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. / Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure./ P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Michael, imo Dan was often kind and or courteous to you and also imo your remark to Rick was low given that he was; also low in that Dan was no longer here to defend himself. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:56 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: since he never was courteous to me, as you claimed, and your assertion that I was behaving in a low manner based on his (nonexistent) courtesy to me, then my behavior was not low in any respect, so you did not address the scurrilous nature of your false allegation towards me, but its not unusual for a TM junkie to behave in such a fashion - I mean after all Marshy taught everyone to ignore the truth, say whatever you like and then tell everyone to pay no attention to what you said before. So I won't hold it against you - its just the upbringing you had in the Movement From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule So Michael, does this not count?! Share to Ann at 7:11 am: Ann, maybe courteous wasn't the best word. I think Dan brought a lot of fun and intelligence and sometimes gentleness to FFL. And actually I thoroughly enjoyed some of jedi's posts too. IMO, it's a loss that they're gone. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is that there is no TMO ADL! On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as anti-Semetic, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure. P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
On 10/4/2014 11:53 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: two birds, one stone. /That's one solution - stone the victim complaining; remove the offending message; and then ban the informant so he can't post a rebuttal.//Go figure./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as /anti-Semetic/, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. / Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure./ P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
The semitic race includes Arabs, so if we blast Saudi Arabia are we being anti-semitics? And someone said to bash Zionism is being anti-Jewish. That's like saying all Christians are Republicans. Zionists are a right wing political faction. As far as Dan goes I had him in my Dangeon anyway for being an abusive poster and only replied to comments he started indirectly about TV or movies. On 10/04/2014 12:07 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Let's face it, Rick is being practical. The Jews are very aggressive about any antisemitism and could get someone at Yahoo freaked enough to close FFL down. It may not be right to surrender, but it does avoid the danger not yet come. If Yahoo closed FFL, the lost would be significant, but if Rick bans antisemitism, the lost to the world's ability to have free speech would be hardly noticed. An easy call for Rick, methinks. Now if the various communities around the world got as aggressively defensive, hoo boy, who could then say anything about anything? Think of all the downtrodden folks who could equally claim the world has smacked them as badly as were the Jews. I've never confronted my Jewish friends about this.might have to do so, cuz this shit's gotta stop. And, hey, for what Israel is doing to Palestine while Jews around the world remain mostly silent, I say they've lost their right to bitch about Hitler. They should go back to dissing the Pharaoh.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Michael, anyone who takes such obvious pleasure in, as you did when Steve and Dan were arguing, such a person imo, has no credibility when it comes to saying what is or isn't WONDERFUL behavior. Also the fact that though you've been shown, even by an objective lurker, how wrong you were about TMO and suicide, you have not recanted your original statement that the TMO ignores it. Plus the fact that you continue to make such negative allegations about people and an organization with whom you've had no contact in decades. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:23 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Michael, imo Dan was often kind and or courteous to you and also imo your remark to Rick was low given that he was; also low in that Dan was no longer here to defend himself. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:56 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: since he never was courteous to me, as you claimed, and your assertion that I was behaving in a low manner based on his (nonexistent) courtesy to me, then my behavior was not low in any respect, so you did not address the scurrilous nature of your false allegation towards me, but its not unusual for a TM junkie to behave in such a fashion - I mean after all Marshy taught everyone to ignore the truth, say whatever you like and then tell everyone to pay no attention to what you said before. So I won't hold it against you - its just the upbringing you had in the Movement From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule So Michael, does this not count?! Share to Ann at 7:11 am: Ann, maybe courteous wasn't the best word. I think Dan brought a lot of fun and intelligence and sometimes gentleness to FFL. And actually I thoroughly enjoyed some of jedi's posts too. IMO, it's a loss that they're gone. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is that there is no TMO ADL! On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H,Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty ofanti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. Ifsomeone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill yougive equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock'smessage as anti-Semetic, when in fact
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On 10/4/2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. /Non sequitur.//The term Low comment has not been defined.//It has already been established that you are mean to Share, but your age or gender, in the context of //Danny Boy, has not been established./ But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. /Non sequitur. Apparently you don't even understand Rick's rule:/ /1) Please refrain from personal attacks, insults and excessive venting. / Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set. /Non sequitur.//There are no TMers - that's just a derogatory and prejudiced term you made up./ *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is that there is no TMO ADL! On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as /anti-Semetic/, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. / Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure./ P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
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On 10/4/2014 12:04 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It seems I have replaced Turq as the most reviled person here on FFL Spellcheck, dude. It's spelled r-i-d-i-c-u-l-e-d. ahh, the company I keep, Curtis, Turq and all the other gods! /Trolls - Individuals who sends duplicitous messages to get angry responses./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It seems I have replaced Turq as the most reviled person here on FFL - ahh, the company I keep, Curtis, Turq and all the other gods! I don't hate Marshy and Company, just disgusted by their behavior - so now tell me Feste, what sort of libel have I committed, eh? Tell me what I have said that is libelous, given the accepted definition of libel, which is a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation It is only libel if it is written and published, and if it is false. If true, it cannot be libel and if it is unclear whether or not it is true, but the author as clearly identified the statement as opinion then it is not libel. Much of what I have written here has been identified by me as my opinion and the rest, well, I invite the Movement to sue me anytime it likes. *From:* feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:08 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as /anti-Semetic/, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. / Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure./ P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
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I am only wrong about TM and suicide and the TMO and suicide in your mind. In what way did ANYONE negate what I said about the TMO NOT being inthe forefront of ANY attempts at providing succor for those suffering in Fairfield? In fact, the lady who gave that very informative post affirmed the effort in Fairfield was NOT being led by the Movement. You really are a TM junkie aren't you? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Michael, anyone who takes such obvious pleasure in, as you did when Steve and Dan were arguing, such a person imo, has no credibility when it comes to saying what is or isn't WONDERFUL behavior. Also the fact that though you've been shown, even by an objective lurker, how wrong you were about TMO and suicide, you have not recanted your original statement that the TMO ignores it. Plus the fact that you continue to make such negative allegations about people and an organization with whom you've had no contact in decades. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:23 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule Michael, imo Dan was often kind and or courteous to you and also imo your remark to Rick was low given that he was; also low in that Dan was no longer here to defend himself. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:56 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: since he never was courteous to me, as you claimed, and your assertion that I was behaving in a low manner based on his (nonexistent) courtesy to me, then my behavior was not low in any respect, so you did not address the scurrilous nature of your false allegation towards me, but its not unusual for a TM junkie to behave in such a fashion - I mean after all Marshy taught everyone to ignore the truth, say whatever you like and then tell everyone to pay no attention to what you said before. So I won't hold it against you - its just the upbringing you had in the Movement From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule So Michael, does this not count?! Share to Ann at 7:11 am: Ann, maybe courteous wasn't the best word. I think Dan brought a lot of fun and intelligence and sometimes gentleness to FFL. And actually I thoroughly enjoyed some of jedi's posts too. IMO, it's a loss that they're gone. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is that there is no TMO ADL! On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti
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On 10/4/2014 12:14 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I agree with Feste. As much as I don't care much for Jedi due to his having been creepy and offensive in private emails to me in the past, I don't think his comment about the Torah and Judaism warranted a ban from FFL. /The Jedi already had received a warning from Rick, but before Jedi could post a response, Rick banned him. The moderator should at least give the guy a chance to post a rebuttal if he is being falsely accused./ / Somehow Rick convicted Jedi as guilty of posting anti-Semitism when the Jedi was just posting an opinion of the Torah. //Go figure./ /As for Dan, I can't see any reason to boot him just because he sent a complaint to the ADL. Why didn't Rick send a complaint to the ADL - he's supposed to be the moderator. There's even a button to click on Yahoo Groups to send a complaint to the Yahoo administrators if anyone breaks the Yahoo Groups protocols.// / As for booting Dan, I don't really care one way or the other. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as /anti-Semetic/, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. / Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure./ P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
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On 10/4/2014 12:37 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael, I do realize that you twice called me a liar in this post. Plus you implied that I said or wrote what you put in quotation marks in the last paragraph. /It is against the FFL rules to call an individual a liar - if he had any integrity, he would ban himself./ On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set. *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is that there is no TMO ADL! On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as /anti-Semetic/, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. / Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure./ P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
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On 10/4/2014 1:56 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: since he never was courteous to me, as you claimed, and your assertion that I was behaving in a low manner based on his (nonexistent) courtesy to me, then my behavior was not low in any respect, /Non sequitur. / so you did not address the scurrilous nature of your false allegation towards me, but its not unusual for a TM junkie /Non sequitur. You just broke Rick's rule number 1), which was a low thing to do. You are breaking the FFL rules and you are guilty as charged.//As a courtesy to Share and to the group, you should apologize and refrain from further rule-breaking. Thank you./ to behave in such a fashion - I mean after all Marshy taught everyone to ignore the truth, say whatever you like and then tell everyone to pay no attention to what you said before. /Non sequitur./ So I won't hold it against you - its just the upbringing you had in the Movement /Prejudice is a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience./ *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule So Michael, does this not count?! Share to Ann at 7:11 am: Ann, maybe courteous wasn't the best word. I think Dan brought a lot of fun and intelligence and sometimes gentleness to FFL. And actually I thoroughly enjoyed some of jedi's posts too. IMO, it's a loss that they're gone. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ohhh, Share thinks I am a mean old man - yet I have not seen you show any willingness to take back the false statement you made about me, claiming I made a low comment since Danny Boy was so courteous to me - a lie which Ann kindly exposed. But I guess since you have the TM glow around you, your unpleasant behavior is just really alright. Any action done by a TM'er cannot by definition be a wrong or objectionable action in and of itself since it was performed by a TM'er. - Share's mind set. *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2014 11:17 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule feste, thank you for saying this about MJ. I agree. I guess the difference is that there is no TMO ADL! On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:08 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as /anti-Semetic/, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. / Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure./ P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages.
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On 10/4/2014 2:07 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Let's face it, Rick is being practical. The Jews are very aggressive about any antisemitism and could get someone at Yahoo freaked enough to close FFL down. It may not be right to surrender, but it does avoid the danger not yet come. /It has not been established that antisemitism has been posted to FFL - that's just Rick's opinion.//It has also not been established that ant-Semitism is rampant on FFL. // We have not yet received a report from the ADL or from the Yahoo administrators, so the jury is still out on the nature of the original //message. / If Yahoo closed FFL, the lost would be significant, but if Rick bans antisemitism, the lost to the world's ability to have free speech would be hardly noticed. An easy call for Rick, methinks. /Non sequitur. //If Yahoo were to close down FFL it wouldn't be because of a few anti-Semitic messages, it would probably be because of your posting about the private sex life of the MUM faculty members./ Now if the various communities around the world got as aggressively defensive, hoo boy, who could then say anything about anything? Think of all the downtrodden folks who could equally claim the world has smacked them as badly as were the Jews. /Non sequitur. / I've never confronted my Jewish friends about this.might have to do so, cuz this shit's gotta stop. /Non sequitur. / And, hey, for what Israel is doing to Palestine while Jews around the world remain mostly silent, I say they've lost their right to bitch about Hitler. They should go back to dissing the Pharaoh. /You realize that you've just posted an anti-Semitic remark, right?/
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
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Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I
would worry if they were to like me.
I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality
wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his.
As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was
booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say
nothing positive about him.
As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician.
On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous
to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the
right choice of words
But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what
Danny Boy said or did, eh?
Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that
attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are
doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior.
I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not
for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a
good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but
not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not
responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort
of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with
others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is
careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair
enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a
friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for
what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and
she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is
unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can
understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less
confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a
condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Dan obviously enjoyed his righteous indignation, but it gave him a blind spot you could fly a 747 through. His grammar and writing, in general, was atrocious, which always sends up a flag, for me, since I doubt very much he was that sloppy with his superiors, during his career. Same as people who, despite being punctual for work, cannot show up on time, socially. An arrogant attitude, masking as casualness. Pretty average fellow, overall, despite his need to have us think otherwise. All the best to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, there are several people here whose dislike I am very happy to have. I would worry if they were to like me. Yes, I can relate, I have my own personal top charters whose affection towards me would positively alarm me. I have not defended turq in quite some time. Nor do I engage in mob mentality wrt him. But you react in knee jerk fashion to almost every post of his. Not knee jerk. I think carefully about how I respond and I certainly could respond to more of his posts than I do. Why do you describe it as knee jerk? He might be a jerk and I do possess a couple of knees but that's about as far as the accuracy of your statement goes. As for your being straight up, now it's my turn to giggle. Right before he was booted off, you and Dan were joshing back and forth. And yet you now say nothing positive about him. I certainly can say lots of things positive about him. Wanna hear? I'll assume you said yes. Dan loves women, all sorts of women - sisters, mothers, wives, daughters. He doesn't appear in the least misogynistic. Dan is smart. Very, very smart. And I mean this in a positive way. Dan is loyal. He would defend his family and TM to the end. Dan is a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I told him that I admired him because he lives in one of the coolest cities in the world and it hasn't eaten him alive. Is this okay with you? I have another perception of Dan that includes some not-so-glowing attributes. But what do I know? This is the internet. One thing I would say is that I understand why Rick did what he did once he saw Dan's last post to him. BTW, what did you think of Dan's post to Mac about his wife and the game shows, the one where Mac asked him who had pissed in his Cheerios? As I said to you some time ago, I think you could do quite well as a politician. Did you realize you are for more deferential to the males than the females on this forum? Of course, we are the only two left here. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:42 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Ann busted you when she said that in fact Dan had not been courteous to me at all. You back peddled and said Oh uh, maybe courteous wasn't the right choice of words But you just can't let go of the idea of me being a low person no matter what Danny Boy said or did, eh? Is it part of your TM induced glow in your brain that leads you to believe that attacking a TM basher is actually a courteous thing and that's why you are doing it now? Ahh, TMSP leads to such WONDERFUL behavior. I think you might be barking up the wrong, but usual, tree here MJ. First, not for one moment did Dan's discourse with you ever seem courteous and he had a good time playing with most of us here, sometimes smiling on the outside but not necessarily on the inside. But the point is, is that Share is not responding the way she is because of TM or the fact that TM induces some sort of glow. Share is Share, MJ. She doesn't like to get into kerfuffles with others unless she feels that enough others are ready to back her up. She is careful to court favor, in her innocuous way, with the guys here and fair enough. I don't blame her but this leads to her unwillingness to see beyond a friendly pat on the back or superficial endorsement of what she writes for what it is - internet trolling or camouflaged ill will. She defends bawee and she is defending Dan and that is her MO; she wants to be liked by all, and is unwilling to look past the facade that some present here at FFL. Again, I can understand this - it is not the way I operate but it probably leads to less confrontation than I get in my life for being straight up. This is not a condemnation of Share, it is simply my take on things YMMV.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
You make good points, although TM folks haven’t been persecuted the way Jews have, so anti-semitism is a touchier issue, as racism would be too. As with all such things, there’s no clear-cut demarkation. No absolute right or wrong. Hard to judge wisely, especially with my drive-by style of moderating. But again to your point, imagine a White Supremacist were in here spewing outrageous nastiness on a regular basis. I think most all would agree that he should be banned. So it’s a matter of degree, and when someone moves a bit too far in that direction, in my opinion, he should be warned and if he ignores the warning, banned. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 11:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Free speech allows the negativity addicts to expose themselves for what they are, see? Don't get me wrongly -- I'd toss out about half of the folks posting here regularly for their vile trolling and personal attacks. But that's just me as if it were Edg's Party. If you were throwing an actual real world party and these folks showed up, I'd never come to one of your parties again. But now that they're here, lemonade can be made by pointing out that these broken psyches were never helped by TM -- a strong warning to any who are being sucked into the promised-heavens. Imagine if you'd attended a 1st lecture and Nabby and Willy were there saying, I'm a long time TMer! -- would you have started? Ugh, huh? Oh, maybe YOU would, but not meI'd judge the technique by the results. Of course, if your party were the ideal conversation pit with everyone being civil, informed, logical -- I wouldn't be allowed, because I love to scream. Sigh..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Free speech allows the negativity addicts to expose themselves for what they are, see? Don't get me wrongly -- I'd toss out about half of the folks posting here regularly for their vile trolling and personal attacks. But that's just me as if it were Edg's Party. If you were throwing an actual real world party and these folks showed up, I'd never come to one of your parties again. But now that they're here, lemonade can be made by pointing out that these broken psyches were never helped by TM -- a strong warning to any who are being sucked into the promised-heavens. Imagine if you'd attended a 1st lecture and Nabby and Willy were there saying, I'm a long time TMer! -- would you have started? Ugh, huh? Oh, maybe YOU would, but not meI'd judge the technique by the results. /So, I wonder where Edg's head was when the subject of anti-semitism came up on FFL?// // //http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg118714.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg180549.html/ / //http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg118724.html/ Of course, if your party were the ideal conversation pit with everyone being civil, informed, logical -- I wouldn't be allowed, because I love to scream. Sigh..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Imagine if you'd attended a 1st lecture and Nabby and Willy were there saying, I'm a long time TMer! -- would you have started? Ugh, huh? Oh, maybe YOU would, but not meI'd judge the technique by the results. Ha ha! If only they had been at my intro - would-a saved me a lot of foolishness. And even tho Nabby would never admit it, the Movement would NEVER allow him to be at any public PR about the Movement were they to know of his Benjy Creme proclivities. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 12:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Free speech allows the negativity addicts to expose themselves for what they are, see? Don't get me wrongly -- I'd toss out about half of the folks posting here regularly for their vile trolling and personal attacks. But that's just me as if it were Edg's Party. If you were throwing an actual real world party and these folks showed up, I'd never come to one of your parties again. But now that they're here, lemonade can be made by pointing out that these broken psyches were never helped by TM -- a strong warning to any who are being sucked into the promised-heavens. Imagine if you'd attended a 1st lecture and Nabby and Willy were there saying, I'm a long time TMer! -- would you have started? Ugh, huh? Oh, maybe YOU would, but not meI'd judge the technique by the results. Of course, if your party were the ideal conversation pit with everyone being civil, informed, logical -- I wouldn't be allowed, because I love to scream. Sigh..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Imagine if you'd attended a 1st lecture and Nabby and Willy were there saying, I'm a long time TMer! -- would you have started? Ugh, huh? Oh, maybe YOU would, but not meI'd judge the technique by the results. On 10/3/2014 1:02 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ha ha! If only they had been at my intro - would-a saved me a lot of foolishness. /You still have not retracted your statement accusing Nabby of being a Nazi Jew Killer. Why not?/ And even tho Nabby would never admit it, the Movement would NEVER allow him to be at any public PR about the Movement were they to know of his Benjy Creme proclivities. /The Nazis murdered over five million Jews and ISIS murders hundreds of Christians, Jews, and other minorities including women children - but your enemy is the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Go figure./
RE: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule
Having a conversation about TM right now with a friend in Brazil. The point I made to him seems relevant. TM has two ways of affecting people (hopefully for the good): 1) rest during TM may make some condition better; 2) the growing stability of the relaxed EEG trait outside of TM may tend to slow the progression of some problem. If a person's problems aren't affected in any way by the above, then there's no obvious way that TM would help their specific problem, personality or physical. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : You make good points, although TM folks haven’t been persecuted the way Jews have, so anti-semitism is a touchier issue, as racism would be too. As with all such things, there’s no clear-cut demarkation. No absolute right or wrong. Hard to judge wisely, especially with my drive-by style of moderating. But again to your point, imagine a White Supremacist were in here spewing outrageous nastiness on a regular basis. I think most all would agree that he should be banned. So it’s a matter of degree, and when someone moves a bit too far in that direction, in my opinion, he should be warned and if he ignores the warning, banned. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 11:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Free speech allows the negativity addicts to expose themselves for what they are, see? Don't get me wrongly -- I'd toss out about half of the folks posting here regularly for their vile trolling and personal attacks. But that's just me as if it were Edg's Party. If you were throwing an actual real world party and these folks showed up, I'd never come to one of your parties again. But now that they're here, lemonade can be made by pointing out that these broken psyches were never helped by TM -- a strong warning to any who are being sucked into the promised-heavens. Imagine if you'd attended a 1st lecture and Nabby and Willy were there saying, I'm a long time TMer! -- would you have started? Ugh, huh? Oh, maybe YOU would, but not meI'd judge the technique by the results. Of course, if your party were the ideal conversation pit with everyone being civil, informed, logical -- I wouldn't be allowed, because I love to scream. Sigh..
