Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-29 Thread Emily Reyn
Yes sir...will do...

Carry on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP0VBB7BO64




 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
:-)


No need to meditate, stop watching those videos and just wallow in the anger, 
guilt, shame and self-centeredness. The worst thing people do is to cheer up a 
sad person, by giving them medication, alcohol, spiritual teachings and or 
other band-aids. Spiritual teachings being the most horrible and the worst 
because people have ready made, second hand beliefs out of it like canned, 
frozen food.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 11:15:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
snip
I still remain tamasic without the emotions of anger, guilt, shame, 
self-centeredness which are predominant weaknesses of Tamas.


Damn, I have all those weaknesses.  You are enlightened in my book, Ravi.  
Maybe if I watch more BatGap interviews the heavens will open up and shine a 
ray of light on my head (how self-centered is that?).  I started the latest 
one today.  I should have meditated today...am stuck in the aftermath of this 
year's Thanksgiving battle and am dreading Christmas.  Nite. 




 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
What the hell does purity mean anyway?


As in Satva (clarity, equanimity) seems an inner quality and Tamas, Rajas 
outer manifestations of it somehow. I still remain tamasic without the 
emotions of anger, guilt, shame, self-centeredness which are predominant 
weaknesses of Tamas as opposed to say pride, greed, power/domination, 
jealousy, selfishness which could be the weaknesses of Rajas.




From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:55:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Yep - Rajas for activity and Tamas for inertia.


For me Sattva is something that pervades both - so you can be satva-tmas or 
satva-rajas. I don't really buy the dictionary, scriptural references. What 
the hell does purity mean anyway?


For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal 
to be reached.


For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression with awareness.


I was pretty tamasic, and like I said I could indulge in my 3 S's of 
spirituality any time of the day. My struggle most of my life was with my 
energy, no issues with restless mind, no need for any goals, need to quieten 
my mind. If I didn't have existence doing everything for me I would have 
ended up as the most laziest loser on this planet. 




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:49:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Huh?  I have to look everything up.  Today I learned some latin from 
Judy...casus bellijustification for war.  Now

Darkness, inertia and resistance to action---praying to fulfill base desires? 
 I need context :)

* In the Samkhya school of philosophy, tamas (Sanskrit / तमस् tamas 
darkness) is one of the three gunas (or qualities), the other two being 
rajas (passion and activity) and sattva or purity). Tamas is the template for 
inertia or resistance to action. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamasic

* Tamasic desire resulting in worship typically has the worshiper praying to 
fulfill base desires and dispel fear.
www.hindupedia.com/en/Worship


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any 
mantra for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-29 Thread Ravi Yogi
Yaay..no to band-aids, yes to surgery.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 29, 2011 12:15:29 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Yes sir...will do...

Carry on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP0VBB7BO64


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
:-)


No need to meditate, stop watching those videos and just wallow in the anger, 
guilt, shame and self-centeredness. The worst thing people do is to cheer up a 
sad person, by giving them medication, alcohol, spiritual teachings and or 
other 
band-aids. Spiritual teachings being the most horrible and the worst because 
people have ready made, second hand beliefs out of it like canned, frozen food.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 11:15:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
snip
I still remain tamasic without the emotions of anger, guilt, shame, 
self-centeredness which are predominant weaknesses of Tamas.


Damn, I have all those weaknesses.  You are enlightened in my book, Ravi.  
Maybe 
if I watch more BatGap interviews the heavens will open up and shine a ray of 
light on my head (how self-centered is that?).  I started the latest one 
today. 
 I should have meditated today...am stuck in the aftermath of this year's 
Thanksgiving battle and am dreading Christmas.  Nite. 




 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
What the hell does purity mean anyway?


As in Satva (clarity, equanimity) seems an inner quality and Tamas, Rajas 
outer 
manifestations of it somehow. I still remain tamasic without the emotions of 
anger, guilt, shame, self-centeredness which are predominant weaknesses of 
Tamas 
as opposed to say pride, greed, power/domination, jealousy, selfishness which 
could be the weaknesses of Rajas.




From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:55:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Yep - Rajas for activity and Tamas for inertia.


For me Sattva is something that pervades both - so you can be satva-tmas or 
satva-rajas. I don't really buy the dictionary, scriptural references. What 
the 
hell does purity mean anyway?


For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal 
to 
be reached.


For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression 
with awareness.


I was pretty tamasic, and like I said I could indulge in my 3 S's of 
spirituality any time of the day. My struggle most of my life was with my 
energy, no issues with restless mind, no need for any goals, need to quieten 
my 
mind. If I didn't have existence doing everything for me I would have ended 
up 
as the most laziest loser on this planet. 




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:49:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Huh?  I have to look everything up.  Today I learned some latin from 
Judy...casus bellijustification for war.  Now

Darkness, inertia and resistance to action---praying to fulfill base desires? 
 I 
need context :)

* In the Samkhya school of philosophy, tamas (Sanskrit / तमस् tamas 
darkness) 
is one of the three gunas (or qualities), the other two being rajas (passion 
and 
activity) and sattva or purity). Tamas is the template for inertia or 
resistance 
to action. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamasic

* Tamasic desire resulting in worship typically has the worshiper praying to 
fulfill base desires and dispel fear.
www.hindupedia.com/en/Worship


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they 
can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva 
and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or caste but the pure 
shakti infused by a self realized master.

Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even though I got a 
mantra from my Guru during my first meeting upon the insistence of my ex I 
never chanted it for too long and discontinued it soon after.


On Nov 28, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com wrote:

 right...; the essential workability criterion ime is the Shakti that enlivens 
 the mantra; not linguistic origins. However, not all people report on this 
 property. I've been initiated into other mantras but none of them have much 
 power, compared to my TM mantra.
 ...
 The fact that Shakti can be attached to mantras or (other things such as 
 buildings) is somewhat magical to me; not in the sense of violating natural 
 Laws, but simply manifesting as unknown laws. Maybe somebody will discovery a 
 Law for levitation.
 ...
 Smooth:
 http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g37/268137/268137_1196735282_large.jpg
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote:
  
   by this Vag would have all the commonly used Buddhist mantras as spoiled 
   mantras as they come from non-Brahmins and have been given to more than 6 
   ears... this is the worst most destructive and discriminatory form of 
   caste-ism but he is happy to propagate it if he thinks it suits his sick 
   purpose. 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
   
Spoiled mantras

H.H. Jagadguru Swami Swaroopananda, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math 
interviewed by David Sieveking

Translator: When he did the TM course of Mahesh Yogi he was asked to 
pay $2500. He was then seated in front of Gurudev's photo and given a 
mantra. He wishes to know Shankaracharyaji's thoughts on this...

Tell him your mantra...

David: Shring.

Translator: Shring?

David: Shring...they say it is the meaningless word but I found out 
that it invokes...


Translator: How do you spell it?
David: I'll write it for you...

2nd translator: He has also been told that the mantra has no meaning  
and that he simply has to recite it [mentally].

HH Swarupananda: This is not a mantra. Had it been Shrim i.e. S-H-R-I- 
M, then it would have been a mantra.

Translator: He was given this mantra in front of Gurudev`s photo. So 
he wants to know whether this has been the tradition from long time ago?

HH Swarupananda: Mahesh Yogi was not a brahnman and hence did not 
have the right to give anybody any mantra's hence he would place the  
Gurudev's picture so as to symbolise that the mantra was being given  
through Gurudev.

The tradition is such that the mantra is a very private and secretive 
conversation between a Guru and a disciple. It is said that when it 
goes in 6 ears the mantra's powers are lost...it has to remain in 
between the two ears of the Guru and the two ears of the Shishya or 
disciple any other person is not to be party to it.

2nd translator: First of all this mantra was not a mantra. The 
procedure for giving it was a guru can give it to the shishya but as 
Maharishi was not a brahman maybe he was keeping a picture of Gurudev 
to give the mantra...but according to tradition it has to be between 
the 2 ears of yours and the two ears of Guru, if it goes to six ears 
[i.e. via a TM teacher] then its a spoiled mantra.


Jai Guru Dev
   
  
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Ravi Yogi




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)

Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise. 
 I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty sleepy. As I 
have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are Sadhana, Satsang and 
Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these any time of the day 
effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Emily Reyn
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra 
for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  




 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise.  I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty 
sleepy. As I have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are Sadhana, 
Satsang and Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these any time of 
the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.


 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they 
can transcend faster.

Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva 
and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

   
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra 
for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise. 
 I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty sleepy. As I 
have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are Sadhana, Satsang and 
Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these any time of the day 
effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.


 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Emily Reyn
Huh?  I have to look everything up.  Today I learned some latin from 
Judy...casus bellijustification for war.  Now


Darkness, inertia and resistance to action---praying to fulfill base desires?  
I need context :)

* In the Samkhya school of philosophy, tamas (Sanskrit / तमस् tamas 
darkness) is one of the three gunas (or qualities), the other two being rajas 
(passion and activity) and sattva or purity). Tamas is the template for inertia 
or resistance to action. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamasic

* Tamasic desire resulting in worship typically has the worshiper 
praying to fulfill base desires and dispel fear.
www.hindupedia.com/en/Worship




 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra 
for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise.  I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty 
sleepy. As I have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are 
Sadhana, Satsang and Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these 
any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.


 



 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal to 
be reached.

For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression 
with awareness.




From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:44:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

   
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they 
can transcend faster.

Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva 
and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra 
for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise. 
 I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty sleepy. As I 
have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are Sadhana, Satsang and 
Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these any time of the day 
effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.


 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Emily Reyn
I think I resonate better with the indulge with awareness...no goal to be 
reached.  I've given up on goals.





 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal 
to be reached.


For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression with awareness.




From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:44:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra 
for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise.  I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty 
sleepy. As I have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are 
Sadhana, Satsang and Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these 
any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.


 



 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
Yep - Rajas for activity and Tamas for inertia.

For me Sattva is something that pervades both - so you can be satva-tmas or 
satva-rajas. I don't really buy the dictionary, scriptural references. What the 
hell does purity mean anyway?

For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal to 
be reached.

For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression 
with awareness.

I was pretty tamasic, and like I said I could indulge in my 3 S's of 
spirituality any time of the day. My struggle most of my life was with my 
energy, no issues with restless mind, no need for any goals, need to quieten my 
mind. If I didn't have existence doing everything for me I would have ended up 
as the most laziest loser on this planet. 




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:49:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

   
Huh?  I have to look everything up.  Today I learned some latin from 
Judy...casus bellijustification for war.  Now

Darkness, inertia and resistance to action---praying to fulfill base desires?  
I 
need context :)

* In the Samkhya school of philosophy, tamas (Sanskrit / तमस् tamas darkness) 
is one of the three gunas (or qualities), the other two being rajas (passion 
and 
activity) and sattva or purity). Tamas is the template for inertia or 
resistance 
to action. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamasic

* Tamasic desire resulting in worship typically has the worshiper praying to 
fulfill base desires and dispel fear.
www.hindupedia.com/en/Worship


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they 
can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva 
and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra 
for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise. 
 I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty sleepy. As I 
have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are Sadhana, Satsang and 
Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these any time of the day 
effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.


 



 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
Well you have to determine that, if you are rajasic or tamasic - goal oriented 
or laid back in simple terms. Most people are rajasic or at least this culture 
trains everyone to be rajasic. 




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:53:12 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

   
I think I resonate better with the indulge with awareness...no goal to be 
reached.  I've given up on goals.





 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just  dishonest,much worse
 

  
For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal 
to 
be reached.


For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression 
with awareness.




From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:44:08 PM
Subject: Re:  [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they 
can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva 
and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon,  November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra 
for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise. 
 I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty sleepy. As I 
have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are Sadhana, Satsang and 
Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these any time of the day 
effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.


 





 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Emily Reyn
I'm in training to be the laziest loser I know.  Laid back is my new goal 
and I am pursuing it with gusto, like a rajasic (sick) person :)




 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
Well you have to determine that, if you are rajasic or tamasic - goal oriented 
or laid back in simple terms. Most people are rajasic or at least this culture 
trains everyone to be rajasic. 




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:53:12 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
I think I resonate better with the indulge with awareness...no goal to be 
reached.  I've given up on goals.





 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal 
to be reached.


For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression with awareness.




From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:44:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any 
mantra for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise.  I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty 
sleepy. As I have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are 
Sadhana, Satsang and Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these 
any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.


 





 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
What the hell does purity mean anyway?

As in Satva (clarity, equanimity) seems an inner quality and Tamas, Rajas outer 
manifestations of it somehow. I still remain tamasic without the emotions of 
anger, guilt, shame, self-centeredness which are predominant weaknesses of 
Tamas 
as opposed to say pride, greed, power/domination, jealousy, selfishness which 
could be the weaknesses of Rajas.




From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:55:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

   
Yep - Rajas for activity and Tamas for inertia.

For me Sattva is something that pervades both - so you can be satva-tmas or 
satva-rajas. I don't really buy the dictionary, scriptural references. What the 
hell does purity mean anyway?

For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal to 
be reached.

For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression 
with awareness.

I was pretty tamasic, and like I said I could indulge in my 3 S's of 
spirituality any time of the day. My  struggle most of my life was with my 
energy, no issues with restless mind, no need for any goals, need to quieten my 
mind. If I didn't have existence doing everything for me I would have ended up 
as the most laziest loser on this planet. 




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:49:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Huh?  I have to look everything up.  Today I learned some latin from 
Judy...casus bellijustification for war.  Now

Darkness, inertia and resistance to action---praying to fulfill base desires?  
I 
need context :)

* In the Samkhya school of philosophy, tamas (Sanskrit / तमस् tamas darkness) 
is one of the three gunas (or qualities), the other two being rajas (passion 
and 
activity) and sattva or purity). Tamas is the template for inertia or 
resistance 
to action. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamasic

* Tamasic desire resulting in worship typically has the worshiper praying to 
fulfill base desires and dispel fear.
www.hindupedia.com/en/Worship


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they 
can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva 
and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any mantra 
for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise. 
 I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty sleepy. As I 
have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are Sadhana, Satsang and 
Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these any time of the day 
effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.


 



 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
LOL..well that's OK. You would have to be perfectly content what comes in your 
way and a certain trust in the existence. I remember I ran out of money during 
my Master's degree and I just had no money to continue. Someone just met me and 
offered to pay the entire tuition for the next semester, and another that found 
scholarship at school. I have to tell you I very much rejected the offer for 
the 
money, checking several times to make sure it was OK with him and the person 
just insisted.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 11:05:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

   
I'm in training to be the laziest loser I know.  Laid back is my new goal 
and I am pursuing it with gusto, like a rajasic (sick) person :)




 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]  Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
Well you have to determine that, if you are rajasic or tamasic - goal oriented 
or laid back in simple terms. Most people are rajasic or at least this culture 
trains everyone to be rajasic. 




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:53:12 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
I think I resonate better with the indulge with awareness...no goal to be 
reached.  I've given up on goals.





 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just  dishonest,much worse
 

  
For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal 
to 
be reached.


For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression 
with awareness.




From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:44:08 PM
Subject: Re:  [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they 
can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva 
and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon,  November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any 
mantra 
for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have clarified that before - I wouldn't have known 
otherwise. 
 I was never restless so mantras or chanting them made me pretty sleepy. As 
 I 
have said before for fools the 3 S's of spirituality are Sadhana, Satsang 
and 
Seva. Mine were Sex, Sleep and Smoke and I could these any time of the day 
effortlessly and didn't need any mantra for that.


 







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Emily Reyn
snip
I still remain tamasic without the emotions of anger, guilt, shame, 
self-centeredness which are predominant weaknesses of Tamas.


Damn, I have all those weaknesses.  You are enlightened in my book, Ravi.  
Maybe if I watch more BatGap interviews the heavens will open up and shine a 
ray of light on my head (how self-centered is that?).  I started the latest one 
today.  I should have meditated today...am stuck in the aftermath of this 
year's Thanksgiving battle and am dreading Christmas.  Nite. 




 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
What the hell does purity mean anyway?


As in Satva (clarity, equanimity) seems an inner quality and Tamas, Rajas 
outer manifestations of it somehow. I still remain tamasic without the 
emotions of anger, guilt, shame, self-centeredness which are predominant 
weaknesses of Tamas as opposed to say pride, greed, power/domination, 
jealousy, selfishness which could be the weaknesses of Rajas.




From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:55:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Yep - Rajas for activity and Tamas for inertia.


For me Sattva is something that pervades both - so you can be satva-tmas or 
satva-rajas. I don't really buy the dictionary, scriptural references. What 
the hell does purity mean anyway?


For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal 
to be reached.


For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression with awareness.


I was pretty tamasic, and like I said I could indulge in my 3 S's of 
spirituality any time of the day. My struggle most of my life was with my 
energy, no issues with restless mind, no need for any goals, need to quieten 
my mind. If I didn't have existence doing everything for me I would have ended 
up as the most laziest loser on this planet. 




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:49:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Huh?  I have to look everything up.  Today I learned some latin from 
Judy...casus bellijustification for war.  Now

Darkness, inertia and resistance to action---praying to fulfill base desires?  
I need context :)

* In the Samkhya school of philosophy, tamas (Sanskrit / तमस् tamas 
darkness) is one of the three gunas (or qualities), the other two being 
rajas (passion and activity) and sattva or purity). Tamas is the template for 
inertia or resistance to action. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamasic

* Tamasic desire resulting in worship typically has the worshiper praying to 
fulfill base desires and dispel fear.
www.hindupedia.com/en/Worship


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva and satsang.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any 
mantra for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  




From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:22:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or
 caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
 
 Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even
 though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting
 upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long
 and discontinued it soon after.

For the record, with TM one doesn't chant the mantra but
entertains it mentally. (But some TMers say even that makes
them sleepy and bored...)


Yes of course, you have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

2011-11-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
:-)

No need to meditate, stop watching those videos and just wallow in the anger, 
guilt, shame and self-centeredness. The worst thing people do is to cheer up a 
sad person, by giving them medication, alcohol, spiritual teachings and or 
other 
band-aids. Spiritual teachings being the most horrible and the worst because 
people have ready made, second hand beliefs out of it like canned, frozen food.




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 11:15:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

   
snip
I still remain tamasic without the emotions of anger, guilt, shame, 
self-centeredness which are predominant weaknesses of Tamas.

Damn, I have all those weaknesses.  You are enlightened in my book, Ravi.  
Maybe 
if I watch more BatGap interviews the heavens will open up and shine a ray of 
light on my head (how self-centered  is that?).  I started the latest one 
today. 
 I should have meditated today...am stuck in the aftermath of this year's 
Thanksgiving battle and am dreading Christmas.  Nite. 




 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse
 

  
What the hell does purity mean anyway?


As in Satva (clarity, equanimity) seems an inner quality and Tamas, Rajas 
outer 
manifestations of it somehow. I still remain tamasic without the emotions of 
anger, guilt, shame, self-centeredness which are predominant weaknesses of 
Tamas 
as opposed to say pride, greed, power/domination, jealousy, selfishness which 
could be the weaknesses of Rajas.




From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 28, 2011 10:55:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag worse than just dishonest,much worse

  
Yep - Rajas for activity and Tamas for inertia.


For me Sattva is something that pervades both - so you can be satva-tmas or 
satva-rajas. I don't really buy the dictionary, scriptural references. What 
the 
hell does purity mean anyway?


For people with predominant tamas, tantra - indulge with awareness - no goal 
to 
be reached.


For one with Rajas - yoga, path of perfection, goals to be reached - 
suppression 
with awareness.


I was pretty tamasic, and like I said I could indulge in my 3 S's of 
spirituality any time of the day. My  struggle most of my life was with my 
energy, no issues with restless mind, no need for any goals, need to quieten 
my 
mind. If I didn't have existence doing everything for me I would have ended up 
as the most laziest loser on this planet. 




From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
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Huh?  I have to look everything up.  Today I learned some latin from 
Judy...casus bellijustification for war.  Now

Darkness, inertia and resistance to action---praying to fulfill base desires?  
I 
need context :)

* In the Samkhya school of philosophy, tamas (Sanskrit / तमस् tamas 
darkness) 
is one of the three gunas (or qualities), the other two being rajas (passion 
and 
activity) and sattva or purity). Tamas is the template for inertia or 
resistance 
to action. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamasic

* Tamasic desire resulting in worship typically has the worshiper praying to 
fulfill base desires and dispel fear.
www.hindupedia.com/en/Worship


 From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
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Oops..yes as in I can smoke, have sex and sleep at any time of the day 
effortlessly, I'm utterly tamasic. Blessed are the tamasics, with awareness 
they 
can transcend faster.


Cursed are the rajasic who need to quiet their restless minds with sadhana, 
seva 
and satsang.




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and I could these any time of the day effortlessly and didn't need any 
mantra 
for that.

And you could _(fill in the blank) these any time of the day.?  


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