Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life
Dear Ann, I gave it my last shot this year. My father went after me, got nowhere, and then went after my daughter. That was the final straw and I stood up for her. I see no other way it could have turned out. I look forward to taking responsibility in the future for creating my own holiday traditions for myself and my children. Thank you for your cogent thoughts as you are on the mark, as usual. Compassionately, Emily. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Share:  This post of yours below is very dismissive and demeaning.  Raunchy was being very up front and considerate in her post to you and you provided no information at all about what you think.  You exited stage left again.  Are you one of those people who hold grudges for life?  Thank you for your kind thoughts for my Thanksgiving.  It was absolute hell despite the advance preparations I made and I will never do another one with either of my beloved parents in this lifetime, quite seriously.  There is something about a dinner table in our family that is not a good thing. Don't despair. I no longer have either of my parents left alive or one of my sisters and although I miss them at various times for different reasons there are times when it is a kind of a relief to be spared the hideous dynamics that sometimes accompany family life. And holiday get togethers and meals could certainly be one of those types of dynamics which I do not miss. The combination of old wounds, alcohol, pent-up emotion all enter the cauldron and it can produce a mighty unsavoury brew. I think it is very common for people to feel this way after a family gathering and not something you should feel terrible about other than you could hope it could have been otherwise. Sometimes/mostly these things are not in your control and all you can do is live through them and figure more stuff out about life. Maybe you'll feel differently next year and want to give it another shot or maybe not.  Luckily, I have gained immeasurable perspective from participating and reading everyone here at FFL, including you.  Luckily, raunchy posted that lovely poem about rutabagas.  Compassionately, Emily.   From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life  dear RD, glitch equals stress. Everybody excepts saints, etc. has such to greater or lesser degree. And they got it right when they said that the later ones to go are the real biggies. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving. You too, Emily in case your lurking. From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: LG, finally there's an opportunity to say something I've been wanting to say to you for a few days. Which is, I think a lot of us in Fairfield are living a new kind of good life. Consequently I rarely if ever feel like a victim. Even childhood traumas I recognize as opportunities to balance out karmic debts. Nonetheless such traumas leave their influence in the form of chemical and or structural glitches in the physical body, even in the physical component of the psychology, the brain and nervous system. Share, I'd like to better understand what you tell us in this post. Are you saying that due to childhood traumas you have a chemical/physical glitch that effects your psychology and physiology? Do you believe the research you cite indicating parental abandonment causing elevated stress hormones permanently effecting the brain applies to you? These are issues that seem personally important to you, enough so, that you would raise them. I understand if you want to keep your medical history private. I get the part about Fairfield being a place to heal and you are doing your very best to do so. I guess what it comes down to is that I don't know what your gliches are and how exactly you believe this effects your life. Are you offering this post to help us understand your interactions with people on FFLife or in real life? If so, how so? To cite just one example, there is research which indicates that in a child whose father goes away for a year, the level of stress hormones in the body stays elevated for a year even after the father has returned. In turn
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life
Dear Barry: You are highly addicted to FFL and cannot see the forest beyond the trees. You have lost perspective. Please feel free to exercise your right not to read or comment on any of my posts. Compassionately, Emily. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I was gone for a week... We noticed. And during that time, the Eternal Bitchfest died down and more interesting topics started to be discussed. Guess that was a coincidence, eh? ...and I am most definitely not trying to start a fight. Bullshit. That's *exactly* what you're trying to do. You're trying to get in the last word and hopefully lure Share into feeling as if she has to do the same thing. Hopefully she's smarter than you are, and won't fall for it. If what it takes for the Bitchfest to end is you going away, please do so again. Please try and figure out the difference between bitchfests and conversations Barry. It would save you having to post unnecessarily. Now maybe you should just ignore Emily and go back to doing what you want to do, which is presumably not arguing with her or any of the other 'attention vampires' around here. Suggestion: read Robin's excellent two posts he wrote yesterday.
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Yes, we do. What do you think forgiveness means? Compassionately, Emily. From: seventhray1 lurkernomore20002...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life We all have blind spots, don't we? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I was gone for a week and I am most definitely not trying to start a fight.  Please don't participate in creating such an us against them reality - this is a farce that most have bought into, dolt-like in my opinion.  I most definitely am farther along the understanding of compassion than your last post to Share. I won't deign to repost it here.  I am stating my understanding and reality around the host of posts that she left unanswered and unaccounted for.  There is no need for her to respond unless she wants to.  Compassionately, Emily From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 11:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life  Five posts in a row, all trying to restart fights that blessedly had died down, all signed Compassionately, Emily. Someone doesn't understand compassion. Let it go. Discussions here have moved on, even if you haven't. The person trying to get in the bitchy last word and restart things is YOU, Emily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share:  This post of yours below is very dismissive and demeaning.  Raunchy was being very up front and considerate in her post to you and you provided no information at all about what you think.  You exited stage left again.  Are you one of those people who hold grudges for life?  Thank you for your kind thoughts for my Thanksgiving.  It was absolute hell despite the advance preparations I made and I will never do another one with either of my beloved parents in this lifetime, quite seriously.  There is something about a dinner table in our family that is not a good thing.  Luckily, I have gained immeasurable perspective from participating and reading everyone here at FFL, including you.  Luckily, raunchy posted that lovely poem about rutabagas.  Compassionately, Emily.   From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life  dear RD, glitch equals stress. Everybody excepts saints, etc. has such to greater or lesser degree. And they got it right when they said that the later ones to go are the real biggies. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving. You too, Emily in case your lurking. From: raunchydog raunchydog@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: LG, finally there's an opportunity to say something I've been wanting to say to you for a few days. Which is, I think a lot of us in Fairfield are living a new kind of good life. Consequently I rarely if ever feel like a victim. Even childhood traumas I recognize as opportunities to balance out karmic debts. Nonetheless such traumas leave their influence in the form of chemical and or structural glitches in the physical body, even in the physical component of the psychology, the brain and nervous system. Share, I'd like to better understand what you tell us in this post. Are you saying that due to childhood traumas you have a chemical/physical glitch that effects your psychology and physiology? Do you believe the research you cite indicating parental abandonment causing elevated stress hormones permanently effecting the brain applies to you? These are issues that seem personally important to you, enough so, that you would raise them. I understand if you want to keep your medical history private. I get the part about Fairfield being a place to heal and you are doing your very best to do so. I guess what it comes down to is that I don't know what your gliches are and how exactly you believe this effects your life. Are you offering this post to help us understand your interactions with people on FFLife or in real life? If so, how so? To cite just one example, there is research which indicates that in a child whose father goes away for a year, the level of stress hormones in the body stays
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life
Steve, I understand how you could have come to the conclusions below. With Share's love of words and logic, I thought she had the ability to take raunchy's questions more seriously, so I figured that this response was a choice on her part and I perceived it as a blow-off. It is likely she was in a hurry and she has explained to me that I do not understand the word stress correctly in TM-speak. This is undoubtedly true. I apologize for using the words dismissive and demeaning - that was impolite of me. Perhaps she can invoke the hopopo prayer for me; it's been awhile since that graced the forum. Compassionately, Emily. P.S. I have to go, but I will hold kind thoughts of you today in my heart. From: seventhray1 lurkernomore20002...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Share:  This post of yours below is very dismissive and demeaning.  Raunchy was being very up front and considerate in her post to you and you provided no information at all about what you think. Are you referring to Share's reply to RD about stresses which accrue due to childhood, or any other trauma one experiences? And you are saying that Share did not adequately answer this question? Is is not clear to you that this question from Raunchy, (which I assume was sincere) was answered in a completely reasonable fashion. Even from TM protocol we know that stress has a physiological component. This is not a matter of conjecture right? What more needs to be said.? And of course this is just what Share said. For some reason you seem to be keeping up a full court press on Share, Em, which is fine. But it should be of something material, not a trivial matter that makes it look like it is you who are harboring a grudge.  You exited stage left again.  Are you one of those people who hold grudges for life?  Thank you for your kind thoughts for my Thanksgiving.  It was absolute hell despite the advance preparations I made and I will never do another one with either of my beloved parents in this lifetime, quite seriously.  There is something about a dinner table in our family that is not a good thing.  Luckily, I have gained immeasurable perspective from participating and reading everyone here at FFL, including you.  Luckily, raunchy posted that lovely poem about rutabagas.  Compassionately, Emily.   From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life  dear RD, glitch equals stress. Everybody excepts saints, etc. has such to greater or lesser degree. And they got it right when they said that the later ones to go are the real biggies. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving. You too, Emily in case your lurking. From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: LG, finally there's an opportunity to say something I've been wanting to say to you for a few days. Which is, I think a lot of us in Fairfield are living a new kind of good life. Consequently I rarely if ever feel like a victim. Even childhood traumas I recognize as opportunities to balance out karmic debts. Nonetheless such traumas leave their influence in the form of chemical and or structural glitches in the physical body, even in the physical component of the psychology, the brain and nervous system. Share, I'd like to better understand what you tell us in this post. Are you saying that due to childhood traumas you have a chemical/physical glitch that effects your psychology and physiology? Do you believe the research you cite indicating parental abandonment causing elevated stress hormones permanently effecting the brain applies to you? These are issues that seem personally important to you, enough so, that you would raise them. I understand if you want to keep your medical history private. I get the part about Fairfield being a place to heal and you are doing your very best to do so. I guess what it comes down to is that I don't know what your gliches are and how exactly you believe this effects your life. Are you offering this post to help us understand your interactions with people on FFLife or in real life? If so, how so? To cite just one example, there is research which indicates that in a child whose father goes away for a year
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life
Dear Share: This post of yours below is very dismissive and demeaning. Raunchy was being very up front and considerate in her post to you and you provided no information at all about what you think. You exited stage left again. Are you one of those people who hold grudges for life? Thank you for your kind thoughts for my Thanksgiving. It was absolute hell despite the advance preparations I made and I will never do another one with either of my beloved parents in this lifetime, quite seriously. There is something about a dinner table in our family that is not a good thing. Luckily, I have gained immeasurable perspective from participating and reading everyone here at FFL, including you. Luckily, raunchy posted that lovely poem about rutabagas. Compassionately, Emily. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life dear RD, glitch equals stress. Everybody excepts saints, etc. has such to greater or lesser degree. And they got it right when they said that the later ones to go are the real biggies. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving. You too, Emily in case your lurking. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: LG, finally there's an opportunity to say something I've been wanting to say to you for a few days. Which is, I think a lot of us in Fairfield are living a new kind of good life. Consequently I rarely if ever feel like a victim. Even childhood traumas I recognize as opportunities to balance out karmic debts. Nonetheless such traumas leave their influence in the form of chemical and or structural glitches in the physical body, even in the physical component of the psychology, the brain and nervous system. Share, I'd like to better understand what you tell us in this post. Are you saying that due to childhood traumas you have a chemical/physical glitch that effects your psychology and physiology? Do you believe the research you cite indicating parental abandonment causing elevated stress hormones permanently effecting the brain applies to you? These are issues that seem personally important to you, enough so, that you would raise them. I understand if you want to keep your medical history private. I get the part about Fairfield being a place to heal and you are doing your very best to do so. I guess what it comes down to is that I don't know what your gliches are and how exactly you believe this effects your life. Are you offering this post to help us understand your interactions with people on FFLife or in real life? If so, how so? To cite just one example, there is research which indicates that in a child whose father goes away for a year, the level of stress hormones in the body stays elevated for a year even after the father has returned. In turn that long term elevated level does something seemingly permanent to the brain. I say seemingly because I do believe there are powerful and natural techniques for healing even such seemingly permanent damage. Anyway, these glitches must first be recognized before they can be addressed and healed. This is all simply to say that I don't feel like a victim of anyone or anything. But I do recognize my glitches and I pursue healing them. But because I can pursue healing them, I don't feel like a victim at all. Just the opposite, I feel very fortunate. Now to fold in the Antifragile post: I feel grateful for Fairfield because it is a place where I can fairly easily deal with these glitches and still make something of a contribution to others. Obviously some people have few glitches. Perhaps they are the ones who thrive in places like NYC. But I believe that the world needs all kinds of people. FF has all kinds, including Jeffrey Smith who is world renowned opponent of GMO and those who are in the Dome 7-8 hours a day and those who are retired and frequent the cafes. FF offers a new and very good kind of life. FFL hopefully helps me integrate all that goodness. Off to Dome and thank you (-:
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I was gone for a week and I am most definitely not trying to start a fight. Please don't participate in creating such an us against them reality - this is a farce that most have bought into, dolt-like in my opinion. I most definitely am farther along the understanding of compassion than your last post to Share. I won't deign to repost it here. I am stating my understanding and reality around the host of posts that she left unanswered and unaccounted for. There is no need for her to respond unless she wants to. Compassionately, Emily From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 11:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life Five posts in a row, all trying to restart fights that blessedly had died down, all signed Compassionately, Emily. Someone doesn't understand compassion. Let it go. Discussions here have moved on, even if you haven't. The person trying to get in the bitchy last word and restart things is YOU, Emily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Share:  This post of yours below is very dismissive and demeaning.  Raunchy was being very up front and considerate in her post to you and you provided no information at all about what you think.  You exited stage left again.  Are you one of those people who hold grudges for life?  Thank you for your kind thoughts for my Thanksgiving.  It was absolute hell despite the advance preparations I made and I will never do another one with either of my beloved parents in this lifetime, quite seriously.  There is something about a dinner table in our family that is not a good thing.  Luckily, I have gained immeasurable perspective from participating and reading everyone here at FFL, including you.  Luckily, raunchy posted that lovely poem about rutabagas.  Compassionately, Emily.   From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life  dear RD, glitch equals stress. Everybody excepts saints, etc. has such to greater or lesser degree. And they got it right when they said that the later ones to go are the real biggies. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving. You too, Emily in case your lurking. From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: LG, finally there's an opportunity to say something I've been wanting to say to you for a few days. Which is, I think a lot of us in Fairfield are living a new kind of good life. Consequently I rarely if ever feel like a victim. Even childhood traumas I recognize as opportunities to balance out karmic debts. Nonetheless such traumas leave their influence in the form of chemical and or structural glitches in the physical body, even in the physical component of the psychology, the brain and nervous system. Share, I'd like to better understand what you tell us in this post. Are you saying that due to childhood traumas you have a chemical/physical glitch that effects your psychology and physiology? Do you believe the research you cite indicating parental abandonment causing elevated stress hormones permanently effecting the brain applies to you? These are issues that seem personally important to you, enough so, that you would raise them. I understand if you want to keep your medical history private. I get the part about Fairfield being a place to heal and you are doing your very best to do so. I guess what it comes down to is that I don't know what your gliches are and how exactly you believe this effects your life. Are you offering this post to help us understand your interactions with people on FFLife or in real life? If so, how so? To cite just one example, there is research which indicates that in a child whose father goes away for a year, the level of stress hormones in the body stays elevated for a year even after the father has returned. In turn that long term elevated level does something seemingly permanent to the brain. I say seemingly because I do believe there are powerful and natural techniques for healing even such seemingly permanent damage. Anyway, these glitches must first be recognized before they can be addressed and healed. This is all simply to say that I don't feel like a victim of anyone or anything. But I do recognize my glitches and I pursue healing them. But because I can pursue
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life
dear RD, glitch equals stress. Everybody excepts saints, etc. has such to greater or lesser degree. And they got it right when they said that the later ones to go are the real biggies. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving. You too, Emily in case your lurking. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to laughinggull a new kind of good life --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: LG, finally there's an opportunity to say something I've been wanting to say to you for a few days. Which is, I think a lot of us in Fairfield are living a new kind of good life. Consequently I rarely if ever feel like a victim. Even childhood traumas I recognize as opportunities to balance out karmic debts. Nonetheless such traumas leave their influence in the form of chemical and or structural glitches in the physical body, even in the physical component of the psychology, the brain and nervous system. Share, I'd like to better understand what you tell us in this post. Are you saying that due to childhood traumas you have a chemical/physical glitch that effects your psychology and physiology? Do you believe the research you cite indicating parental abandonment causing elevated stress hormones permanently effecting the brain applies to you? These are issues that seem personally important to you, enough so, that you would raise them. I understand if you want to keep your medical history private. I get the part about Fairfield being a place to heal and you are doing your very best to do so. I guess what it comes down to is that I don't know what your gliches are and how exactly you believe this effects your life. Are you offering this post to help us understand your interactions with people on FFLife or in real life? If so, how so? To cite just one example, there is research which indicates that in a child whose father goes away for a year, the level of stress hormones in the body stays elevated for a year even after the father has returned. In turn that long term elevated level does something seemingly permanent to the brain. I say seemingly because I do believe there are powerful and natural techniques for healing even such seemingly permanent damage. Anyway, these glitches must first be recognized before they can be addressed and healed. This is all simply to say that I don't feel like a victim of anyone or anything. But I do recognize my glitches and I pursue healing them. But because I can pursue healing them, I don't feel like a victim at all. Just the opposite, I feel very fortunate. Now to fold in the Antifragile post: I feel grateful for Fairfield because it is a place where I can fairly easily deal with these glitches and still make something of a contribution to others. Obviously some people have few glitches. Perhaps they are the ones who thrive in places like NYC. But I believe that the world needs all kinds of people. FF has all kinds, including Jeffrey Smith who is world renowned opponent of GMO and those who are in the Dome 7-8 hours a day and those who are retired and frequent the cafes. FF offers a new and very good kind of life. FFL hopefully helps me integrate all that goodness. Off to Dome and thank you (-:
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On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:24 AM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: LG, finally there's an opportunity to say something I've been wanting to say to you for a few days. Which is, I think a lot of us in Fairfield are living a new kind of good life. Consequently I rarely if ever feel like a victim. Even childhood traumas I recognize as opportunities to balance out karmic debts. Nonetheless such traumas leave their influence in the form of chemical and or structural glitches in the physical body, even in the physical component of the psychology, the brain and nervous system. Share, I'd like to better understand what you tell us in this post. Are you saying that due to childhood traumas you have a chemical/physical glitch that effects your psychology and physiology? Do you believe the research you cite indicating parental abandonment causing elevated stress hormones permanently effecting the brain applies to you? These are issues that seem personally important to you, enough so, that you would raise them. I understand if you want to keep your medical history private. I get the part about Fairfield being a place to heal and you are doing your very best to do so. I guess what it comes down to is that I don't know what your gliches are and how exactly you believe this effects your life. Are you offering this post to help us understand your interactions with people on FFLife or in real life? If so, how so? The impression one would get from Share's actions and words here on FFL is the opposite of one Share projects in this post - based on her actions people in FF are living in a fantasy world, in a perpetual victim mindset - unable to look and deal with reality and running between the pseudo holy men, healers, quantum light weavers, pastoral counselors to help them continue their fantasies. So there's definitely a thriving market for all spiritual con-men charlatans in FF.
