Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines pt 2

2015-05-29 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Nonsense. We'll just buy our own attack robots, and the open carry laws will 
be amended to say that we can be accompanied by them at all times. 

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:01 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines pt 2
   
    Killer robots will leave humans 'utterly defenceless' warns professor
 
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defenceless...  Robots, called LAWS – lethal autonomous weapons systems – will 
be able to kill without human intervention||
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines pt 2

2015-05-29 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Nonsense. We'll just buy our own attack robots, and the open carry laws will 
be amended to say that we can be accompanied by them at all times. 
 

 Good thinking. I can't see any problems with that. They've already got these:
 

 AirDog drone automatically follows you and films your sporting feats 
http://www.gizmag.com/airdog-auto-follow-action-sports-drone/32576/ 
 
 http://www.gizmag.com/airdog-auto-follow-action-sports-drone/32576/ 
 
 AirDog drone automatically follows you and films your s... 
http://www.gizmag.com/airdog-auto-follow-action-sports-drone/32576/ Typical. 
You wait ages for an autonomous aerial camera drone and then two come along at 
once. We featured Squadrone System's Hexo+ drone yesterday and ...
 
 
 
 View on www.gizmag.com 
http://www.gizmag.com/airdog-auto-follow-action-sports-drone/32576/ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  
 All we need to do is equip it with some firepower, programme it to recognise 
people we don't like and we can stroll about in peace!

 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:01 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines pt 2
 
 
   
 Killer robots will leave humans 'utterly defenceless' warns professor 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11633838/Killer-robots-will-leave-humans-utterly-defenceless-warns-professor.html

 
 
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11633838/Killer-robots-will-leave-humans-utterly-defenceless-warns-professor.html
 
 Killer robots will leave humans 'utterly defenceless... 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11633838/Killer-robots-will-leave-humans-utterly-defenceless-warns-professor.html
 Robots, called LAWS – lethal autonomous weapons systems – will be able to kill 
without human intervention


 
 View on www.telegraph.co.uk 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11633838/Killer-robots-will-leave-humans-utterly-defenceless-warns-professor.html
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 Killer robots will leave humans 'utterly defenceless' warns professor 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11633838/Killer-robots-will-leave-humans-utterly-defenceless-warns-professor.html

 
 
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11633838/Killer-robots-will-leave-humans-utterly-defenceless-warns-professor.html
 
 Killer robots will leave humans 'utterly defenceless... 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11633838/Killer-robots-will-leave-humans-utterly-defenceless-warns-professor.html
 Robots, called LAWS – lethal autonomous weapons systems – will be able to kill 
without human intervention


 
 View on www.telegraph.co.uk 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11633838/Killer-robots-will-leave-humans-utterly-defenceless-warns-professor.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 


 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It's about time someone raised a non-hysterical voice about all of this AI 
stuff. Hinton is absolutely correct in his last sentences in this article -- 
people have much more to fear from other people than they do from AIs. 

I find it fascinating how much of an *emotional* issue this -- the idea of 
machine sentience -- is for many people. For many of them it's a religious 
thang, in that they actually believe that creating intelligent life is 
something reserved for God...who doesn't exist. But for many others I think 
it's almost a racial/ethnic fear. For them, shiny robots have taken the place 
in their catalog of Things To Fear alongside people they consider niggers and 
ragheads. 

I guess it's a trend. Intelligent minds find ways to become more intelligent, 
and small minds find ways to become even smaller. 
  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?
   
    
Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete!
Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence
 
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An algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which could 
lead to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI 
scientist||
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 It's about time someone raised a non-hysterical voice about all of this AI 
stuff. Hinton is absolutely correct in his last sentences in this article -- 
people have much more to fear from other people than they do from AIs. 

 

 I find it fascinating how much of an *emotional* issue this -- the idea of 
machine sentience -- is for many people. For many of them it's a religious 
thang, in that they actually believe that creating intelligent life is 
something reserved for God...who doesn't exist. But for many others I think 
it's almost a racial/ethnic fear. For them, shiny robots have taken the place 
in their catalog of Things To Fear alongside people they consider niggers and 
ragheads. 

 

 I guess it's a trend. Intelligent minds find ways to become more intelligent, 
and small minds find ways to become even smaller. 
 

 I don't know how likely it is even though it's obviously possible. I think a 
big fear is that we really do make ourselves obsolete. We might create 
something better than us that considers us worthless or at least a subordinate 
system. We've done it already, society is a complex emergent system that 
depends on us but we sacrifice ourselves to it to keep it alive. Think how much 
more powerful a worldwide robotic brain would be in keeping us in our place! 
Perhaps the only robot code we need is to make sure we can pull out the plug?
 

 Or even something that can replace the job we do would be scary. And then 
there's autonomous battle machines, that's only going to end in tears but it 
isn't stopping them being built.
 

 But perhaps the biggest fear is a philosophical one. If we can create a cyber 
brain that works exactly the same way as ours that must definitively mean that 
we are simply our brains and there is no soul or spirit. That might hurt a lot 
of people more than unemployment or Skynet ever could.
 

 


 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?
 
 
   
 

 Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete!
 

 Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence

 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence
 
 Google a step closer to developing machines with... 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence
 An algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which could 
lead to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI scientist


 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 


 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
It's about time someone raised a non-hysterical voice about all of this AI 
stuff. Hinton is absolutely correct in his last sentences in this article -- 
people have much more to fear from other people than they do from AIs. 

I find it fascinating how much of an *emotional* issue this -- the idea of 
machine sentience -- is for many people. For many of them it's a religious 
thang, in that they actually believe that creating intelligent life is 
something reserved for God...who doesn't exist. But for many others I think 
it's almost a racial/ethnic fear. For them, shiny robots have taken the place 
in their catalog of Things To Fear alongside people they consider niggers and 
ragheads. 

I guess it's a trend. Intelligent minds find ways to become more intelligent, 
and small minds find ways to become even smaller. 
I don't know how likely it is even though it's obviously possible. I think a 
big fear is that we really do make ourselves obsolete. We might create 
something better than us that considers us worthless or at least a subordinate 
system. We've done it already, society is a complex emergent system that 
depends on us but we sacrifice ourselves to it to keep it alive. Think how much 
more powerful a worldwide robotic brain would be in keeping us in our place! 
Perhaps the only robot code we need is to make sure we can pull out the plug?
Or even something that can replace the job we do would be scary. And then 
there's autonomous battle machines, that's only going to end in tears but it 
isn't stopping them being built.
But perhaps the biggest fear is a philosophical one. If we can create a cyber 
brain that works exactly the same way as ours that must definitively mean that 
we are simply our brains and there is no soul or spirit. That might hurt a lot 
of people more than unemployment or Skynet ever could.

I don't know whether you got a chance to see the movie I raved about recently, 
Ex Machina. IMO it's the most intelligent film about AI I've ever seen. 

The quirk that makes it most interesting is that one can view the Turing Test 
being conducted in the film two different ways -- either as a test performed by 
humans on an AI to determine whether it's truly sentient (and thus worthy of 
continuing to live), or the opposite...the exact same test, performed on humans 
by the AI. 

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?
 
 
Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete!
Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence

|  |
|  | |  | Google a step closer to developing machines with... An 
algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which could lead 
to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI scientist |  |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 It's about time someone raised a non-hysterical voice about all of this AI 
stuff. Hinton is absolutely correct in his last sentences in this article -- 
people have much more to fear from other people than they do from AIs. 

 

 I find it fascinating how much of an *emotional* issue this -- the idea of 
machine sentience -- is for many people. For many of them it's a religious 
thang, in that they actually believe that creating intelligent life is 
something reserved for God...who doesn't exist. But for many others I think 
it's almost a racial/ethnic fear. For them, shiny robots have taken the place 
in their catalog of Things To Fear alongside people they consider niggers and 
ragheads. 

 

 I guess it's a trend. Intelligent minds find ways to become more intelligent, 
and small minds find ways to become even smaller. 
 

 I don't know how likely it is even though it's obviously possible. I think a 
big fear is that we really do make ourselves obsolete. We might create 
something better than us that considers us worthless or at least a subordinate 
system. We've done it already, society is a complex emergent system that 
depends on us but we sacrifice ourselves to it to keep it alive. Think how much 
more powerful a worldwide robotic brain would be in keeping us in our place! 
Perhaps the only robot code we need is to make sure we can pull out the plug?
 

 Or even something that can replace the job we do would be scary. And then 
there's autonomous battle machines, that's only going to end in tears but it 
isn't stopping them being built.
 

 But perhaps the biggest fear is a philosophical one. If we can create a cyber 
brain that works exactly the same way as ours that must definitively mean that 
we are simply our brains and there is no soul or spirit. That might hurt a lot 
of people more than unemployment or Skynet ever could.
 

 

 I don't know whether you got a chance to see the movie I raved about recently, 
Ex Machina. IMO it's the most intelligent film about AI I've ever seen. 

 

 The quirk that makes it most interesting is that one can view the Turing Test 
being conducted in the film two different ways -- either as a test performed by 
humans on an AI to determine whether it's truly sentient (and thus worthy of 
continuing to live), or the opposite...the exact same test, performed on humans 
by the AI. 


 

I have it in my awareness to watch, sounds interesting. I know humans that fail 
the Turing test though, perhaps we'd be better off without them. Maybe that's 
what it's ultimately for! We all have to measure up to Alan Turing or it's off 
to the processing plant. There's a brave new world coming I think...
 

 I'm way behind on my movies. I only got to see Prometheus the other day when 
it got to TV. Can't imagine what else I've missed. My trouble is the library 
never gets decent modern films in to rent and Blockbusters shut down because 
people prefer to download everything. I'm so behind the times I doubt it would 
take much of an AI to replace me!
 

 
 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?
 
 
   
 

 Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete!
 

 Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence

 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence
 
 Google a step closer to developing machines with... 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence
 An algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which could 
lead to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI scientist


 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 


 













 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

I don't know whether you got a chance to see the movie I raved about recently, 
Ex Machina. IMO it's the most intelligent film about AI I've ever seen. 

I have it in my awareness to watch, sounds interesting. I know humans that fail 
the Turing test though, perhaps we'd be better off without them. Maybe that's 
what it's ultimately for! We all have to measure up to Alan Turing or it's off 
to the processing plant. There's a brave new world coming I think...

One of the things that most people don't know is that the famous Turing Test 
evolved from a party game proposed by Alan Turing. The game was similar to what 
we now imagine a robotic Turing Test to be, in that the party guests were to be 
separated so they couldn't see each other visually and could communicate only 
via written technology, such as a typewriter (or now, a computer). The issue 
Turing was interested in when he first thought up the idea, however, was 
whether someone could tell whether the person they were communicating with was 
*male* or *female*. He later expanded the concept and applied it to AI in his 
famous 1950 paper Computing Machinery and Intelligence. 
I think that this historical factoid is quite interesting, given what we know 
now, that Turing was gay, at a time that made him a candidate for prison for 
being so. 
I also find it interesting, given my fondness for Ex Machina and the really 
surprising (to me) reaction that a number of women I know had to it. The film 
*seriously* pushed their feminist buttons, so much so that they *hated* it. 
Part of the issue is that the robot/AI being tested in the film is given the 
appearance of a female, and is unfortunately not always treated properly. So 
they saw the film as yet another misogynist epic in which men flout their power 
over women. 

Even though I tried -- and with women who were all computer scientists and 
should know better -- I couldn't get them to see the validity of my position re 
the film. That is, that the AI named Ava *HAS* no gender. It just has a 
presentation layer that makes it *appear* to be female. 
I'm way behind on my movies. I only got to see Prometheus the other day when it 
got to TV. Can't imagine what else I've missed. My trouble is the library never 
gets decent modern films in to rent and Blockbusters shut down because people 
prefer to download everything. I'm so behind the times I doubt it would take 
much of an AI to replace me!
I don't think you've missed much. I have seen some good TV series in the last 
couple of years, but *really* have to stretch to think of a good film I've seen 
in that time. Ex Machina is the first really good one I've seen in ages. I'm 
looking forward to seeing Mad Max: Fury Road, but sadly for some reason it's 
playing only in one theater with only one performance a day, and I have to wait 
until the crowds let up.  


  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?
 
 
Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete!
Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence

|  |
|  | |  | Google a step closer to developing machines with... An 
algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which could lead 
to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI scientist |  |
| View on www.theguardian.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread salyavin808
But then 

 Having children can permanently affect the female brain, studies claim 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/having-children-can-permanently-affect-the-female-brain-studies-claim-10274861.html
 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/having-children-can-permanently-affect-the-female-brain-studies-claim-10274861.html
 
 
 Having children can permanently affect the fema... 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/having-children-can-permanently-affect-the-female-brain-studies-claim-10274861.html
 Having children can permanently affect the brain of women because the surge in 
female sex hormones during pregnancy can influence the development of key p...
 
 
 
 View on www.independent.co.uk 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/having-children-can-permanently-affect-the-female-brain-studies-claim-10274861.html
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 I don't know whether you got a chance to see the movie I raved about recently, 
Ex Machina. IMO it's the most intelligent film about AI I've ever seen. 
 

I have it in my awareness to watch, sounds interesting. I know humans that fail 
the Turing test though, perhaps we'd be better off without them. Maybe that's 
what it's ultimately for! We all have to measure up to Alan Turing or it's off 
to the processing plant. There's a brave new world coming I think...
 

 


 One of the things that most people don't know is that the famous Turing Test 
evolved from a party game proposed by Alan Turing. The game was similar to what 
we now imagine a robotic Turing Test to be, in that the party guests were to be 
separated so they couldn't see each other visually and could communicate only 
via written technology, such as a typewriter (or now, a computer). The issue 
Turing was interested in when he first thought up the idea, however, was 
whether someone could tell whether the person they were communicating with was 
*male* or *female*. He later expanded the concept and applied it to AI in his 
famous 1950 paper Computing Machinery and Intelligence. 
 

 I think that this historical factoid is quite interesting, given what we know 
now, that Turing was gay, at a time that made him a candidate for prison for 
being so. 
 

 I also find it interesting, given my fondness for Ex Machina and the really 
surprising (to me) reaction that a number of women I know had to it. The film 
*seriously* pushed their feminist buttons, so much so that they *hated* it. 
Part of the issue is that the robot/AI being tested in the film is given the 
appearance of a female, and is unfortunately not always treated properly. So 
they saw the film as yet another misogynist epic in which men flout their power 
over women. 

 

 Even though I tried -- and with women who were all computer scientists and 
should know better -- I couldn't get them to see the validity of my position re 
the film. That is, that the AI named Ava *HAS* no gender. It just has a 
presentation layer that makes it *appear* to be female. 
 

 

 Interesting. I didn't know that about the Turing test. I'd like to know what 
he might have had in mind for telling the difference between us. I think a lot 
of the differences are cultural and things have changed since his day. The 
heavy drinking ladette culture among young women these days would have seemed 
most unappealing in Britain in Turing's day. And the portrayal of women as 
smart and efficient and men as merely dim and barely functioning sperm donors 
in every TV sitcom and advert must be a reflection on how enough people to make 
a difference actually want to see themselves.
 

 But then I remember a discussion about women when the banking crisis happened 
in 2008, it was said that it wouldn't have if women had been in control. 
Instantly the accusation went up that women must not be as good at making money 
generally, lacking the necessary killer instincts obviously.
 

 How can we tell the difference between innate behaviour and socially 
acceptable and expected responses that change over time? Or do women change 
their behaviour to fit in with this man's world? I think there are obvious set 
differences but we are on a continuum with more blending of roles than extreme 
blokeish or girlishness. Turing's test might come up with more wrong hits than 
expected these days.
 

 

 


 I'm way behind on my movies. I only got to see Prometheus the other day when 
it got to TV. Can't imagine what else I've missed. My trouble is the library 
never gets decent modern films in to rent and Blockbusters shut down because 
people prefer to download everything. I'm so behind the times I doubt it would 
take much of an AI to replace me!
 

 I don't think you've missed much. I have seen some good TV series in the last 
couple of years, but *really* have to stretch to think of a good film I've seen 
in that time. Ex Machina is the first really good one I've seen in ages. I'm 
looking forward to seeing Mad Max: Fury Road, but sadly for some reason it's 
playing only in one theater with only one performance a day, and I have to wait 
until the crowds let up.  

 

 Prometheus was disappointing. It undermined the excellence of the original 
Alien film and was full of typical monster movie cliches like the scientists 
who looked like they'd abandoned lucrative career's as swimwear models to study 
archaeology. And the pointlessly aggressive and dysfunctional crew members that 
no one in their right mind would include on a scientific mission. It looked 
good though and left itself room for a sequel. And it's always good to see the 
Isle of Skye.

 

 
 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:57 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As usualyou guys are a little too late on this one.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajzpd-ONOdo
   From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?
   
    
Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete!
Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence
 
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||||   Google a step closer to developing machines with...  
An algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which could 
lead to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI 
scientist||
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Expect a lot of these articles this week because Google I/O is on in San 
Francisco.  Hard ticket to get as it's like a rock show and sells out in 
minutes.  But they stream it live too.  I hate going into San Fran 
anyway.  But Sergey and Larry will be doing their Steve Jobs impressions 
during the show.


One thing announced is finally finally... MIDI support for 
developers in Android.


On 05/26/2015 09:33 AM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

Google is like a big kitchen where they bake all kinds of ideas.  Some 
of them come out half baked too.


When I see articles like these I look at from a different perspective 
than about 98% of the populace.  If you've worked in management in a 
successful corporation you know these articles are the result of your 
PR department.  IOW, it's not that some reporter is running around 
trying to find out what Google is doing but that that Google PR people 
set this up so that reporters could write about it since it helps the 
stock price.


IOW, the world isn't really what it seems. ;-)

Yes, I used to work in PR and it's disturbing how much you read is 
there because someone wants you to see it. And lazy journalists of course.


It's still a good story though.

On 05/25/2015 10:57 PM, salyavin808 wrote:



Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually 
want to make ourselves obsolete!



Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like 
intelligence 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence





image 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence



Google a step closer to developing machines with... 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 

An algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which 
could lead to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says 
leading AI scientist


View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Stay dry!

On 05/26/2015 09:41 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
LOL! I live north of the heaviest flooding. We only got about 5-6 
inches here. Further south, in SW Houston where I grew up, they were 
getting about 11 inches. My biggest inconvenience was missing most of 
my programs last night. NBA play-off game, Rocketts/Warriors, Turn and 
the new series Texas Rising. I have Direct TV. Rain was too heavy to 
get reception for a couple of hours. As for Texas Rising, I did see 
bits and pieces. The History looks accurate but the geography is 
laughable.


*From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:25 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

How's your boat holding up? Or did you build an Ark?

On 05/26/2015 05:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



As usualyou guys are a little too late on this one. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajzpd-ONOdo


*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:57 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?


Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually 
want to make ourselves obsolete!


Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like 
intelligence 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence




image 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 




Google a step closer to developing machines with... 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 

An algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which 
could lead to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says 
leading AI scientist


View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Google is like a big kitchen where they bake all kinds of ideas.  Some 
of them come out half baked too.


When I see articles like these I look at from a different perspective 
than about 98% of the populace.  If you've worked in management in a 
successful corporation you know these articles are the result of your PR 
department.  IOW, it's not that some reporter is running around trying 
to find out what Google is doing but that that Google PR people set this 
up so that reporters could write about it since it helps the stock price.


IOW, the world isn't really what it seems. ;-)

On 05/25/2015 10:57 PM, salyavin808 wrote:



Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually 
want to make ourselves obsolete!



Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like 
intelligence 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence





image 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 




Google a step closer to developing machines with... 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 

An algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which 
could lead to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says 
leading AI scientist


View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Google is like a big kitchen where they bake all kinds of ideas.  Some of them 
come out half baked too. 
 
 When I see articles like these I look at from a different perspective than 
about 98% of the populace.  If you've worked in management in a successful 
corporation you know these articles are the result of your PR department.  IOW, 
it's not that some reporter is running around trying to find out what Google is 
doing but that that Google PR people set this up so that reporters could write 
about it since it helps the stock price.
 
 IOW, the world isn't really what it seems. ;-) 
 

 Yes, I used to work in PR and it's disturbing how much you read is there 
because someone wants you to see it. And lazy journalists of course.
 

 It's still a good story though.
 
 On 05/25/2015 10:57 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   
 
 Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete!
 

 Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence
 
 
 
 
 
 Google a step closer to developing machines with... An algorithm developed by 
Google is designed to encode thought, which could lead to computers with 
‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI scientist


 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 
 

 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL! I live north of the heaviest flooding. We only got about 5-6 inches here. 
Further south, in SW Houston where I grew up, they were getting about 11 
inches. My biggest inconvenience was missing most of my programs last night. 
NBA play-off game, Rocketts/Warriors, Turn and the new series Texas Rising. I 
have Direct TV. Rain was too heavy to get reception for a couple of hours. As 
for Texas Rising, I did see bits and pieces. The History looks accurate but the 
geography is laughable.
   From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?
   
 How's your boat holding up? Or did you build an Ark?
 
 On 05/26/2015 05:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  


  As usualyou guys are a little too late on this one.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajzpd-ONOdo
     From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?
   
    
  Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete! 
  Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 Using the words human beings and intelligence all in the same sentence is 
a contradiction in terms. LoL!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Most human beings have artificial intelligence. :-D 
 
 On 05/25/2015 11:14 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   It's about time someone raised a non-hysterical voice about all of this AI 
stuff. Hinton is absolutely correct in his last sentences in this article -- 
people have much more to fear from other people than they do from AIs. 
 
 
 
 I find it fascinating how much of an *emotional* issue this -- the idea of 
machine sentience -- is for many people. For many of them it's a religious 
thang, in that they actually believe that creating intelligent life is 
something reserved for God...who doesn't exist. But for many others I think 
it's almost a racial/ethnic fear. For them, shiny robots have taken the place 
in their catalog of Things To Fear alongside people they consider niggers and 
ragheads. 
 
 
 
 I guess it's a trend. Intelligent minds find ways to become more intelligent, 
and small minds find ways to become even smaller. 
 
 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?
 
 
   
 
 Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete!
 

 Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence
 
 
 
 
 
 Google a step closer to developing machines with... An algorithm developed by 
Google is designed to encode thought, which could lead to computers with 
‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI scientist


 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 
 




 
 






 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Most human beings have artificial intelligence. :-D

On 05/25/2015 11:14 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*/It's about time someone raised a non-hysterical voice about all of 
this AI stuff. Hinton is absolutely correct in his last sentences in 
this article -- people have much more to fear from other people than 
they do from AIs.

/*
*/
/*
*/I find it fascinating how much of an *emotional* issue this -- the 
idea of machine sentience -- is for many people. For many of them it's 
a religious thang, in that they actually believe that creating 
intelligent life is something reserved for God...who doesn't exist. 
But for many others I think it's almost a racial/ethnic fear. For 
them, shiny robots have taken the place in their catalog of Things To 
Fear alongside people they consider niggers and ragheads.

/*
*/
/*
*/I guess it's a trend. Intelligent minds find ways to become more 
intelligent, and small minds find ways to become even smaller. /*



*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:57 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?


Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually 
want to make ourselves obsolete!


Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like 
intelligence 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence




image 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 




Google a step closer to developing machines with... 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 

An algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which 
could lead to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says 
leading AI scientist


View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?

2015-05-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

How's your boat holding up? Or did you build an Ark?

On 05/26/2015 05:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
As usualyou guys are a little too late on this one. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajzpd-ONOdo


*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:57 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?


Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually 
want to make ourselves obsolete!


Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like 
intelligence 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence




image 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 




Google a step closer to developing machines with... 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 

An algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which 
could lead to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says 
leading AI scientist


View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines..

2015-02-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Uppity robots. This Roomba is trying to go into business for itself. 

Flowbee Funny commercial

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  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 9:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines..
   
    South Korean woman's hair 'eaten' by robot vacuum cleaner as she slept
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines..

2015-02-09 Thread salyavin808


Amazing. How do they keep a straight face?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Uppity robots. This Roomba is trying to go into business for itself. 

 

 Flowbee Funny commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkqx4UXlwl4
 

  
  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkqx4UXlwl4
  
  
  
  
  
 Flowbee Funny commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkqx4UXlwl4

 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkqx4UXlwl4
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 9:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines..
 
 
   
 South Korean woman's hair 'eaten' by robot vacuum cleaner as she slept 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/09/south-korean-womans-hair-eaten-by-robot-vacuum-cleaner-as-she-slept

 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/09/south-korean-womans-hair-eaten-by-robot-vacuum-cleaner-as-she-slept
 
 South Korean woman's hair 'eaten' by robot v... 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/09/south-korean-womans-hair-eaten-by-robot-vacuum-cleaner-as-she-slept
 The woman was sleeping on the floor of her home when the robotic cleaner 
hoovered up her hair leaving her in agony


 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/09/south-korean-womans-hair-eaten-by-robot-vacuum-cleaner-as-she-slept
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines...

2014-11-26 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Cute, but a friend of mine can solve Rubik's cubes almost this fast, without 
any cyber-help. 

He actually solves 7- and 9-sided Rubik's cubes. For fun. Go figure. 
  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:06 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines...
   
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d0LfkIut2M



  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines...

2014-11-26 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Cute, but a friend of mine can solve Rubik's cubes almost this fast, without 
any cyber-help. 
 

 He actually solves 7- and 9-sided Rubik's cubes. For fun. Go figure. 
 

 I know someone who can tell if the stickers have been moved when it's jumbled 
up. He basically does it in his head first! And then finishes it off in 
seconds...
 

 

 

 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:06 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the Machines...
 
 
   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d0LfkIut2M 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d0LfkIut2M