Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. The only explanation is that he tries to help the poor fellow. I once had a discussion with shaman who claimed it was possible to bring back and completely cure people from heavy pshycosis as a result of a LSD trip with the shear force of consciousness. He could be right in theory but I never saw nor heard that it ever happenned. Mr Fleetwood is a good man, he could have similar ideas about his healing abilities regarding the fellow who has been pestering FFL with bad language, namecalling and extreme negativity lately.
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
completely cure people from heavy pshycosis Wow! So there is hope for you True Believers yet! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 3:43 AM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. The only explanation is that he tries to help the poor fellow. I once had a discussion with shaman who claimed it was possible to bring back and completely cure people from heavy pshycosis as a result of a LSD trip with the shear force of consciousness. He could be right in theory but I never saw nor heard that it ever happenned. Mr Fleetwood is a good man, he could have similar ideas about his healing abilities regarding the fellow who has been pestering FFL with bad language, namecalling and extreme negativity lately.
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
One has doubts as your problems seem to be deeprooted trauma, but let's see what Fleetwood is able to accomplish. From what I've heard his influence is not bound by space. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : completely cure people from heavy pshycosis Wow! So there is hope for you True Believers yet! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 3:43 AM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. The only explanation is that he tries to help the poor fellow. I once had a discussion with shaman who claimed it was possible to bring back and completely cure people from heavy pshycosis as a result of a LSD trip with the shear force of consciousness. He could be right in theory but I never saw nor heard that it ever happenned. Mr Fleetwood is a good man, he could have similar ideas about his healing abilities regarding the fellow who has been pestering FFL with bad language, namecalling and extreme negativity lately.
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
On 8/25/2014 7:03 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: One has doubts as your problems seem to be deeprooted trauma, but let's see what Fleetwood is able to accomplish. From what I've heard his influence is not bound by space. The first step in recovering from mental trauma is to see a cult-exit counselor or a professional BEFORE the trauma becomes deep rooted. If the condition persists over a long time, you get people subscribing to an internet discussion group and trying to talk themselves out of their cognitive dissonance. Sometimes the condition actually worsens and morphs into another trauma - getting ridiculed on a public forum for being a true believer in the first place. Face it, if someone hasn't come to terms with their youthful indiscretions in thirty years it's probably never going to get resolved except through medication prescribed by a doctor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : completely cure people from heavy pshycosis Wow! So there is hope for you True Believers yet! *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2014 3:43 AM *Subject:* Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. The only explanation is that he tries to help the poor fellow. I once had a discussion with shaman who claimed it was possible to bring back and completely cure people from heavy pshycosis as a result of a LSD trip with the shear force of consciousness. He could be right in theory but I never saw nor heard that it ever happenned. Mr Fleetwood is a good man, he could have similar ideas about his healing abilities regarding the fellow who has been pestering FFL with bad language, namecalling and extreme negativity lately.
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
MJ obviously forgot the BEFORE and now he's in trouble. You seem to suggest it could worsen which is doubtful as it hardly can get any worse except with a total nervous breakdown which sometimes happens when severe and prologued Pitta-conditions and severe traumas goes untreated. He can however hope for a miracle of some sort. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/25/2014 7:03 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: One has doubts as your problems seem to be deeprooted trauma, but let's see what Fleetwood is able to accomplish. From what I've heard his influence is not bound by space. The first step in recovering from mental trauma is to see a cult-exit counselor or a professional BEFORE the trauma becomes deep rooted. If the condition persists over a long time, you get people subscribing to an internet discussion group and trying to talk themselves out of their cognitive dissonance. Sometimes the condition actually worsens and morphs into another trauma - getting ridiculed on a public forum for being a true believer in the first place. Face it, if someone hasn't come to terms with their youthful indiscretions in thirty years it's probably never going to get resolved except through medication prescribed by a doctor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : completely cure people from heavy pshycosis Wow! So there is hope for you True Believers yet! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 3:43 AM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. The only explanation is that he tries to help the poor fellow. I once had a discussion with shaman who claimed it was possible to bring back and completely cure people from heavy pshycosis as a result of a LSD trip with the shear force of consciousness. He could be right in theory but I never saw nor heard that it ever happenned. Mr Fleetwood is a good man, he could have similar ideas about his healing abilities regarding the fellow who has been pestering FFL with bad language, namecalling and extreme negativity lately.
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
The miracle would be if you woke up and realized what a git you are, but I'll settle for you going to live in Benjy Creme's basement (to balance your vata) and living in silence forever. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) MJ obviously forgot the BEFORE and now he's in trouble. You seem to suggest it could worsen which is doubtful as it hardly can get any worse except with a total nervous breakdown which sometimes happens when severe and prologued Pitta-conditions and severe traumas goes untreated. He can however hope for a miracle of some sort. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/25/2014 7:03 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: One has doubts as your problems seem to be deeprooted trauma, but let's see what Fleetwood is able to accomplish. From what I've heard his influence is not bound by space. The first step in recovering from mental trauma is to see a cult-exit counselor or a professional BEFORE the trauma becomes deep rooted. If the condition persists over a long time, you get people subscribing to an internet discussion group and trying to talk themselves out of their cognitive dissonance. Sometimes the condition actually worsens and morphs into another trauma - getting ridiculed on a public forum for being a true believer in the first place. Face it, if someone hasn't come to terms with their youthful indiscretions in thirty years it's probably never going to get resolved except through medication prescribed by a doctor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : completely cure people from heavy pshycosis Wow! So there is hope for you True Believers yet! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 3:43 AM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. The only explanation is that he tries to help the poor fellow. I once had a discussion with shaman who claimed it was possible to bring back and completely cure people from heavy pshycosis as a result of a LSD trip with the shear force of consciousness. He could be right in theory but I never saw nor heard that it ever happenned. Mr Fleetwood is a good man, he could have similar ideas about his healing abilities regarding the fellow who has been pestering FFL with bad language, namecalling and extreme negativity lately.
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
On 8/25/2014 10:02 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: MJ obviously forgot the BEFORE and now he's in trouble. You seem to suggest it could worsen which is doubtful as it hardly can get any worse except with a total nervous breakdown which sometimes happens when severe and prologued Pitta-conditions and severe traumas goes untreated. He can however hope for a miracle of some sort. He can only get so much psychological help here and with Judy no longer around, he won't get any help with his hypocrisy problem. Just about all we can do is point out to him his cognitive dissonance and try to convince him that almost anything, when taken to extremes, will be found to be self-contradictory. I wounder how his /Kung Foo/ is working out for him and if he has been able to tap into the Qi /- universal life force energy/? There may be a lot more work for him to actually learn how to levitate, if all he can manage now is a few squats and some arm waving and newsgroup posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/25/2014 7:03 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: One has doubts as your problems seem to be deeprooted trauma, but let's see what Fleetwood is able to accomplish. From what I've heard his influence is not bound by space. The first step in recovering from mental trauma is to see a cult-exit counselor or a professional BEFORE the trauma becomes deep rooted. If the condition persists over a long time, you get people subscribing to an internet discussion group and trying to talk themselves out of their cognitive dissonance. Sometimes the condition actually worsens and morphs into another trauma - getting ridiculed on a public forum for being a true believer in the first place. Face it, if someone hasn't come to terms with their youthful indiscretions in thirty years it's probably never going to get resolved except through medication prescribed by a doctor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : completely cure people from heavy pshycosis Wow! So there is hope for you True Believers yet! *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2014 3:43 AM *Subject:* Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. The only explanation is that he tries to help the poor fellow. I once had a discussion with shaman who claimed it was possible to bring back and completely cure people from heavy pshycosis as a result of a LSD trip with the shear force of consciousness. He could be right in theory but I never saw nor heard that it ever happenned. Mr Fleetwood is a good man, he could have similar ideas about his healing abilities regarding the fellow who has been pestering FFL with bad language, namecalling and extreme negativity lately.
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
Richard, what's a good example of something which taken to an extreme is self contradictory? It sounds right but an example would help. On Monday, August 25, 2014 1:10 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/25/2014 10:02 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: MJ obviously forgot the BEFORE and now he's in trouble. You seem to suggest it could worsen which is doubtful as it hardly can get any worse except with a total nervous breakdown which sometimes happens when severe and prologued Pitta-conditions and severe traumas goes untreated. He can however hope for a miracle of some sort. He can only get so much psychological help here and with Judy no longer around, he won't get any help with his hypocrisy problem. Just about all we can do is point out to him his cognitive dissonance and try to convince him that almost anything, when taken to extremes, will be found to be self-contradictory. I wounder how his Kung Foo is working out for him and if he has been able to tap into the Qi - universal life force energy? There may be a lot more work for him to actually learn how to levitate, if all he can manage now is a few squats and some arm waving and newsgroup posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/25/2014 7:03 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: One has doubts as your problems seem to be deeprooted trauma, but let's see what Fleetwood is able to accomplish. From what I've heard his influence is not bound by space. The first step in recovering from mental trauma is to see a cult-exit counselor or a professional BEFORE the trauma becomes deep rooted. If the condition persists over a long time, you get people subscribing to an internet discussion group and trying to talk themselves out of their cognitive dissonance. Sometimes the condition actually worsens and morphs into another trauma - getting ridiculed on a public forum for being a true believer in the first place. Face it, if someone hasn't come to terms with their youthful indiscretions in thirty years it's probably never going to get resolved except through medication prescribed by a doctor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : completely cure people from heavy pshycosis Wow! So there is hope for you True Believers yet! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 3:43 AM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. The only explanation is that he tries to help the poor fellow. I once had a discussion with shaman who claimed it was possible to bring back and completely cure people from heavy pshycosis as a result of a LSD trip with the shear force of consciousness. He could be right in theory but I never saw nor heard that it ever happenned. Mr Fleetwood is a good man, he could have similar ideas about his healing abilities regarding the fellow who has been pestering FFL with bad language, namecalling and extreme negativity lately.
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On 8/25/2014 1:18 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, what's a good example of something which taken to an extreme is self contradictory? It sounds right but an example would help. Everything changes - nothing changes. This all relates to the two truths - there is an absolute truth and a relative truth. According to Wilber, none of these relative levels are true in an absolute sense: only formless awareness, the simple feeling of being, exists absolutely. Another classic example is the magicians trick - the false interpretation of the senses placed on the evidence of the senses by the spectator. For example, coins and rabbits are manipulated by the magician strictly in accord with the laws of motion and gravity that govern all objects. /It is the spectator who penetrates no deeper than his eyesight and sees these objects going in and out of pockets and top hats. / The purpose of the dialectic method of reasoning is resolution of disagreement through rational discussion, and, ultimately, the search for truth. One way to proceed—the Socratic method—is to show that a given hypothesis (with other admissions) leads to a contradiction; thus, forcing the withdrawal of the hypothesis as a candidate for truth (see reductio ad absurdum). Another dialectical resolution of disagreement is by denying a presupposition of the contending thesis and antithesis; thereby, proceeding to sublation (transcendence) to synthesis, a third thesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic On Monday, August 25, 2014 1:10 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/25/2014 10:02 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: MJ obviously forgot the BEFORE and now he's in trouble. You seem to suggest it could worsen which is doubtful as it hardly can get any worse except with a total nervous breakdown which sometimes happens when severe and prologued Pitta-conditions and severe traumas goes untreated. He can however hope for a miracle of some sort. He can only get so much psychological help here and with Judy no longer around, he won't get any help with his hypocrisy problem. Just about all we can do is point out to him his cognitive dissonance and try to convince him that almost anything, when taken to extremes, will be found to be self-contradictory. I wounder how his /Kung Foo/ is working out for him and if he has been able to tap into the Qi /- universal life force energy/? There may be a lot more work for him to actually learn how to levitate, if all he can manage now is a few squats and some arm waving and newsgroup posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/25/2014 7:03 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: One has doubts as your problems seem to be deeprooted trauma, but let's see what Fleetwood is able to accomplish. From what I've heard his influence is not bound by space. The first step in recovering from mental trauma is to see a cult-exit counselor or a professional BEFORE the trauma becomes deep rooted. If the condition persists over a long time, you get people subscribing to an internet discussion group and trying to talk themselves out of their cognitive dissonance. Sometimes the condition actually worsens and morphs into another trauma - getting ridiculed on a public forum for being a true believer in the first place. Face it, if someone hasn't come to terms with their youthful indiscretions in thirty years it's probably never going to get resolved except through medication prescribed by a doctor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : completely cure people from heavy pshycosis Wow! So there is hope for you True Believers yet! *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2014 3:43 AM *Subject:* Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. The only explanation is that he tries to help the poor fellow. I once had a discussion with shaman who claimed it was possible to bring back and completely cure people from heavy pshycosis as a result of a LSD trip with the shear force of consciousness. He could be right in theory but I never saw nor heard that it ever happenned. Mr Fleetwood is a good man, he could have similar ideas about his healing abilities regarding the fellow who has been pestering FFL with bad language, namecalling and extreme negativity lately.
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth element means from 50% to 100% earth element. And other 50% other four elements. So predominance of earth element means innumerable strata ranging from 99% and then coming on to 50%. There will be innumerable worlds where the earth element will be predominant. Likewise there would be innumerable, innumerable worlds representing different strata of creation where water element is predominant. Innumerable worlds like that representing different strata of creation where fire element would be predominant. Like that where air element would be predominant and like that where akasha tattva would be predominant. This is the whole extension of the universe, unlimited, unthinkably big, extended to – we could say – infinity. The creation where the akasha tattva is in predominance is in this field the subtlest field of creation. And because all this field is the field of glow, all the creation that there is, the body and all that is there – the body of the people who live here, the beings residing here, their bodies are celestial bodies, made of all light, that glow which you experience in your meditation. The whole creation is of that glow. The houses that are there, they are built out of that glow material as we on earth having earthly bodies make use of the earth to build our houses; they make use of that celestial matter of which their bodies are made – glow, made of all light. Nearest to imagine would be houses built out of glass bricks and the man made of that glass – all celestial. This is the field of celestial body, celestial life. This is the field of Gods. All the innumerable Gods, the stories that we hear, come from this field. Somewhere in the creation there exists a world of celestial life and that is that field where akasha tattva is in predominance. When we say that there are worlds of different intensity of life, gross and subtle, then even our experience of meditation shows that there is within us that field of glow which we are counting here to be the world of celestial life. That you have experienced within yourself, when the Mantra goes and you get to the most subtle state of vibration, that field of glow, and that within yourself, which is the field of celestial life. In its pure state it might be existing in some part of the universe, but again in its pure state it exists within us as a particular subtle strata of our own existence. And therefore by getting in tune with that more and more we get directly tuned to that field of Gods in different strata of the universe. You have heard the saying that all
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My Dearest Michael,I encourage you to continue to relieve whatever burdens you carry. Don't edit yourself, let it flow. It is damaging to you to have all this anger, but worse for you to try to contain it. Even if you send everyone running, I want you to continue. Have a nice day, Author Dan
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Just after you hit the purple box to reply, look at the space you are writing in. There is a small grey message at the bottom left. It reads, Show message history. If you click it, the previous messages of the thread will appear in your reply box. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that???
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fleetwood_macncheese,You are the best! This is The Most Important Thing (Copyright Pending in Belize) I have learned in, I don't know how long. Now I can be read by millions! (Are there millions on ffl, or does it just feel like it?) Well the thought of all this attention (and resultant Gold Stars) is exhausting. Along with this silly posting, I am reading the whole Sunday NYT and listening to Bring in the Clowns, repeatedly. I am now taking a well deserved break to eat...guess what? I knew you'd know...macncheese ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Just after you hit the purple box to reply, look at the space you are writing in. There is a small grey message at the bottom left. It reads, Show message history. If you click it, the previous messages of the thread will appear in your reply box. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that???
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Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth element means from 50% to 100% earth element. And other 50% other four elements. So predominance of earth element means innumerable strata ranging from 99% and then coming on to 50%. There will be innumerable worlds where the earth element will be predominant. Likewise there would be innumerable, innumerable worlds representing different strata of creation where water element is predominant. Innumerable worlds like that representing different strata of creation where fire element would be predominant. Like that where air element would be predominant and like that where akasha tattva would be predominant. This is the whole extension of the universe, unlimited, unthinkably big, extended to – we could say – infinity. The creation where the akasha tattva is in predominance is in this field the subtlest field of creation. And because all this field is the field of glow, all the creation that there is, the body and all that is there – the body of the people who live here, the beings residing here, their bodies are celestial bodies, made of all light, that glow which you experience in your meditation. The whole creation is of that glow. The houses that are there, they are built out of that glow material as we on earth having earthly bodies make use of the earth to build our houses; they make use of that celestial matter of which their bodies are made – glow, made of all light. Nearest to imagine would be houses built out of glass bricks and the man made of that glass – all celestial. This is the field of celestial body, celestial life. This is the field of Gods. All the innumerable Gods, the stories that we hear, come from this field. Somewhere in the creation there exists a world of celestial life and that is that field where akasha tattva is in predominance. When we say that there are worlds of different intensity of life, gross and subtle, then even our experience of meditation shows that there is within us that field of glow which we are counting here to be the world of celestial life. That you have experienced within yourself, when the Mantra goes and you get to the most subtle state of vibration, that field of glow, and that within yourself, which is the field of celestial life. In its pure state it might be existing in some part of the universe, but again in its pure state it exists within us as a particular subtle strata of our own existence. And therefore by getting in tune with that more and more we get directly tuned to that field of Gods in different strata
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Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth element means from 50% to 100% earth element. And other 50% other four elements. So predominance of earth element means innumerable strata ranging from 99% and then coming on to 50%. There will be innumerable worlds where the earth element will be predominant. Likewise there would be innumerable, innumerable worlds representing different strata of creation where water element is predominant. Innumerable worlds like that representing different strata of creation where fire element would be predominant. Like that where air element would be predominant and like that where akasha tattva would be predominant. This is the whole extension of the universe, unlimited, unthinkably big, extended to – we could say – infinity. The creation where the akasha tattva is in predominance is in this field the subtlest field of creation. And because all this field is the field of glow, all the creation that there is, the body and all that is there – the body of the people who live here, the beings residing here, their bodies are celestial bodies, made of all light, that glow which you experience in your meditation. The whole creation is of that glow. The houses that are there, they are built out of that glow material as we on earth having earthly bodies make use of the earth to build our houses; they make use of that celestial matter of which their bodies are made – glow, made of all light. Nearest to imagine would be houses built out of glass bricks and the man made of that glass – all celestial. This is the field of celestial body, celestial life. This is the field of Gods. All the innumerable Gods, the stories that we hear, come from this field. Somewhere in the creation there exists a world of celestial life and that is that field where akasha tattva is in predominance. When we say that there are worlds of different intensity of life, gross and subtle, then even our experience of meditation shows that there is within us that field of glow which we are counting here to be the world of celestial life. That you have experienced within yourself, when the Mantra goes and you get to the most
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth element means from 50% to 100% earth element. And other 50% other four elements. So predominance of earth element means innumerable strata ranging from 99% and then coming on to 50%. There will be innumerable worlds where the earth element will be predominant. Likewise there would be innumerable, innumerable worlds representing different strata of creation where water element is predominant. Innumerable worlds like that representing different strata of creation where fire element would be predominant. Like that where air element would be predominant and like that where akasha tattva would be predominant. This is the whole extension of the universe, unlimited, unthinkably big, extended to – we could say – infinity. The creation where the akasha tattva is in predominance is in this field the subtlest field of creation. And because all this field is the field of glow, all the creation that there is, the body and all that is there – the body of the people who live here, the beings residing here, their bodies are celestial bodies, made of all light, that glow which you experience in your meditation. The whole creation is of that glow. The houses that are there, they are built out of that glow material as we on earth having earthly bodies make use of the earth to build our houses; they make use of that celestial matter of which their bodies are made – glow, made of all light. Nearest to imagine would be houses built out of glass bricks and the man made of that glass – all celestial. This is the field of celestial body, celestial life. This is the field of Gods. All the innumerable Gods, the stories that we hear, come from this field. Somewhere in the creation there exists a world of celestial life and that is that field where akasha tattva
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
Dear Mr Fleetwood,It is very honorable of you both to be loyal to your friend and honest with me at the same time. I do appreciate your candor. You are again correct when you describe the nature of friendship. God knows that few of my friends are close to perfect (more often, barely decent). And I am the last to talk. I am a rascal, a scoundrel, and a betrayer...but always a good friend. I honor your friendship and will stop my fucking-around with a man you appreciate so dearly. Respectfully, Mark Daniel Friedman NYC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth element means from 50% to 100% earth element. And other 50% other four elements. So predominance of earth element means innumerable strata ranging from 99% and then coming on to 50%. There will be innumerable worlds where the earth element will be predominant. Likewise there would be innumerable, innumerable worlds representing different strata of creation where water element is predominant. Innumerable worlds like that representing different strata of creation where fire element would be predominant. Like that where air element would be predominant and like that where akasha tattva would be predominant. This is the whole extension of the universe, unlimited, unthinkably big, extended to – we could say – infinity. The creation where the akasha tattva is in predominance is in this field the subtlest field of creation. And because all this field is the field of glow, all the creation that there is, the body and all that is there – the body of the people who live here, the beings residing here, their bodies are celestial bodies, made of all light, that glow which you experience in your meditation. The whole creation is of that glow. The houses
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent
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That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you
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I would have to say that sense of exceptionalism was my best too. I think my worst was in part seeing some of the people marginalized and screwed over by the Movement, esp. at MIU - some of them I didn't know well, but there were events where it was obvious they were getting screwed. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked
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Dear Davey, While I am loath to question your Posts (it was YOUR experience, after all), I do think Correction Is In Order. Please reconsider this: that was the nadir of my naivete While the alliteration is charming, I would ask if you meant to write: that was the zenith of my naivete Less alliteration though. Good luck in all future efforts (if you still do believe in luck) Your well-wisher (if you still do believe in wishes) Marco ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife
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Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. Nailed it - couldn't have put it better myself. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy
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Dr Bronner was one of the Best Men I Have Known. His son is Admirable for his Charity. You can't shine his shoes. Your provocation is useless, it will get the expected result every time. And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. Grow up. From the best support you are going to receive, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re
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The reason being that Daveyoung is literate, not just enraged. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. Nailed it - couldn't have put it better myself. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked
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Enjoy feeling exceptional? Kinda shows. Your best supporter (after fleetwood) Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I would have to say that sense of exceptionalism was my best too. I think my worst was in part seeing some of the people marginalized and screwed over by the Movement, esp. at MIU - some of them I didn't know well, but there were events where it was obvious they were getting screwed. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers
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Is your own medicine tasting a bit sour perhaps? So it is with all TM sycophants - there is naught for you but black bile and wormwood in the end. From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Dr Bronner was one of the Best Men I Have Known. His son is Admirable for his Charity. You can't shine his shoes. Your provocation is useless, it will get the expected result every time. And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. Grow up. From the best support you are going to receive, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife
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Is this your attempt at literacy? Name calling.OK. now i'm going to say sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never harm me. Try harder, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Is your own medicine tasting a bit sour perhaps? So it is with all TM sycophants - there is naught for you but black bile and wormwood in the end. From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Dr Bronner was one of the Best Men I Have Known. His son is Admirable for his Charity. You can't shine his shoes. Your provocation is useless, it will get the expected result every time. And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. Grow up. From the best support you are going to receive, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given
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Initially settling in the midwest, Bronner married the illegitimate daughter of a nun, who eventually became suicidal and died in a mental hospital. (He says she was tortured by the hospital guards.) He also began devising his plan for world peace. Fittingly, he took to the soapbox to promote it. One of his listeners, Fred Walcher, was so inspired that in 1945 he had himself crucified in Chicago in order to publicize the plan. (He survived.) Later Bronner was arrested while trying to promote his plan at the University of Chicago and was committed to a mental hospital. He escaped three times, finally fleeing to California in 1947. He's been there cranking out soap and soap labels ever since. How inspiring!! From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Dr Bronner was one of the Best Men I Have Known. His son is Admirable for his Charity. You can't shine his shoes. Your provocation is useless, it will get the expected result every time. And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. Grow up. From the best support you are going to receive, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone
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another delusional ranttry harder You fan, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Initially settling in the midwest, Bronner married the illegitimate daughter of a nun, who eventually became suicidal and died in a mental hospital. (He says she was tortured by the hospital guards.) He also began devising his plan for world peace. Fittingly, he took to the soapbox to promote it. One of his listeners, Fred Walcher, was so inspired that in 1945 he had himself crucified in Chicago in order to publicize the plan. (He survived.) Later Bronner was arrested while trying to promote his plan at the University of Chicago and was committed to a mental hospital. He escaped three times, finally fleeing to California in 1947. He's been there cranking out soap and soap labels ever since. How inspiring!! From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Dr Bronner was one of the Best Men I Have Known. His son is Admirable for his Charity. You can't shine his shoes. Your provocation is useless, it will get the expected result every time. And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish you could learn something from any of these men. They are real gentlemen, and you are not. Grow up. From the best support you are going to receive, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about
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Sorry Fleet,I know I let you down. He just kept asking for it. Is he under your care, or on his own? Trying to Care, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Mr Fleetwood,It is very honorable of you both to be loyal to your friend and honest with me at the same time. I do appreciate your candor. You are again correct when you describe the nature of friendship. God knows that few of my friends are close to perfect (more often, barely decent). And I am the last to talk. I am a rascal, a scoundrel, and a betrayer...but always a good friend. I honor your friendship and will stop my fucking-around with a man you appreciate so dearly. Respectfully, Mark Daniel Friedman NYC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth element means from 50% to 100% earth element. And other 50% other four elements. So predominance of earth element means innumerable strata ranging from 99% and then coming on to 50%. There will be innumerable worlds where the earth element will be predominant. Likewise there would be innumerable, innumerable worlds representing different strata of creation where water element is predominant. Innumerable worlds like that representing different strata of creation where fire element would be predominant. Like that where air element would be predominant and like that where akasha tattva would be predominant. This is the whole extension of the universe, unlimited, unthinkably big, extended to – we could say – infinity. The creation where the akasha tattva is in predominance is in this field the subtlest field of creation. And because all this field is the field of glow, all the creation that there is, the body and all that is there – the body of the people who live here, the beings
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On the contrary Michael, maybe you can learn something from Edg. A little perspective that you sorely lack. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware
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Dan, imho, you aimed high and you put in a stellar effort. Yay! Share On Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:03 PM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Sorry Fleet,I know I let you down. He just kept asking for it. Is he under your care, or on his own? Trying to Care, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Mr Fleetwood,It is very honorable of you both to be loyal to your friend and honest with me at the same time. I do appreciate your candor. You are again correct when you describe the nature of friendship. God knows that few of my friends are close to perfect (more often, barely decent). And I am the last to talk. I am a rascal, a scoundrel, and a betrayer...but always a good friend. I honor your friendship and will stop my fucking-around with a man you appreciate so dearly. Respectfully, Mark Daniel Friedman NYC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth element means from 50% to 100% earth element. And other 50% other four elements. So predominance of earth element means innumerable strata ranging from 99% and then coming on to 50%. There will be innumerable worlds where the earth element will be predominant. Likewise there would be innumerable, innumerable worlds representing different strata of creation where water element is predominant. Innumerable worlds like that representing different strata of creation where fire element would be predominant. Like that where air element would be predominant and like that where akasha tattva would be predominant. This is the whole extension of the universe, unlimited, unthinkably big, extended to – we could say – infinity. The creation where the akasha tattva is in predominance is in this field the subtlest field of creation. And because all
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I have learned something from him - my take on the Movement is the same as his - therefore he has taught me that I am a very astute fellow. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) On the contrary Michael, maybe you can learn something from Edg. A little perspective that you sorely lack. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff
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Well, if that's your only take away, then good for you. Maybe then, it's where you go from here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I have learned something from him - my take on the Movement is the same as his - therefore he has taught me that I am a very astute fellow. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) On the contrary Michael, maybe you can learn something from Edg. A little perspective that you sorely lack. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all
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My Dear Share,I take your acknowledgement very seriously, because you are of as-pure-heart-as-you're-going-to-see-around-here. In fact, you (and many others) are the reason I thought I'd give ffl a retry. Sometimes second-times-around don't work out. And I accept that. Lovingly, From NYC...Daniel the Cocker Spaniel (as my dear sister fondly called her cherished younger brother). May Love reign supreme in your life! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Dan, imho, you aimed high and you put in a stellar effort. Yay! Share On Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:03 PM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Sorry Fleet,I know I let you down. He just kept asking for it. Is he under your care, or on his own? Trying to Care, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Mr Fleetwood,It is very honorable of you both to be loyal to your friend and honest with me at the same time. I do appreciate your candor. You are again correct when you describe the nature of friendship. God knows that few of my friends are close to perfect (more often, barely decent). And I am the last to talk. I am a rascal, a scoundrel, and a betrayer...but always a good friend. I honor your friendship and will stop my fucking-around with a man you appreciate so dearly. Respectfully, Mark Daniel Friedman NYC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth element means from 50% to 100% earth element. And other 50% other four elements. So predominance of earth element means innumerable strata ranging from 99% and then coming on to 50%. There will be innumerable worlds where the earth element will be predominant. Likewise there would be innumerable, innumerable worlds representing different
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Mike the Magnificent,You really are A Very Astute Fellow Signed, A Secret Admirer ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I have learned something from him - my take on the Movement is the same as his - therefore he has taught me that I am a very astute fellow. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) On the contrary Michael, maybe you can learn something from Edg. A little perspective that you sorely lack. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he
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Stevie,We can cut back a little on the placation here. You know some things can be a bit overdone, don't you think? Your colleague in support and placation, MD ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Well, if that's your only take away, then good for you. Maybe then, it's where you go from here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I have learned something from him - my take on the Movement is the same as his - therefore he has taught me that I am a very astute fellow. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) On the contrary Michael, maybe you can learn something from Edg. A little perspective that you sorely lack. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after
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Dear Pal Steve,Please note that in all Posts on fairfieldlife, we need to avoid using words like 'lack' when speaking about Michael. Perhaps 'You lack nothing would be OK, or There is nothing lacking in you, Mike, or You are complete in every way. He'd respond better to these cues. Tryin' to help, Mike's personality coach ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : On the contrary Michael, maybe you can learn something from Edg. A little perspective that you sorely lack. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That is one of the best summations of time in the TMO I have ever seen. I await the squalling and mocking that is likely to ensue from the reverse naysayers and neganauts like Buck, Steve and what's is name who got his medical degree from Dr. Bronner. But thank you for answering that question, I appreciate it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Best part of TM was the especial deliciousness of thinking I could actually become enlightened. Ego. --- Not that I was strutting around but that, simply, since it COULD happen, I was assured it would happen, and that assertion had my nervous system running a constant emotion of exceptionalism. A drug addiction to that blood chemistry was thereby developed. BAH. --- Being young, I got off on the international travel, the belonging to a group of new agers, and truly, the concepts of enlightenment had me scintillating with intellectual certainties right and left. And I actually believed that I could get my SCI certificate and waltz right into my local community college and become a meditation teacher there..that was the nadir of my naivete. --- But, it was a great learning curve, but unfortunately, it took me a full ten years AFTER leaving TM to figure out that Maharishi was feeding us boiler-plate homilies and yet he'd had ZERO insights gained by his own spiritual achievements.such as they may or may not have been. --- There's quite a few worst moments competing for the championship. I've found motivation to detail most of them here at FFL in other posts. No need to upset myself more by trying to find or recall them now. - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well Duv, what was the best part of TM and the TMO for you and what was the worst part? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) Funny how parts of my nervous system STILL can be titillated by these talks of other worlds, other levels, other others.On the other hand, I'm remembering that Lessons #14 and #15 of the SCI tapes were withdrawn by the TMO. Not definitely sure of their series numbers, but the two tapes were about SCIENCE. And hoo boy, they were doozies. I cannot remember anything they said except that even back then in my TM heyday with success dripping off of me and doing 50 initiations in a weekendI thought the two tapes were seriously goofy. Not sure, but maybe in those tapes there was the discussion about the two nervous systems, and also, maybe, there was a bit of numerology mixed in. The reason I bring this up is that, to me, it was one of the first big errors that Maharishi produced that shook me to the core of my then strongly held beliefs. I mean, if Maharishi didn't see ahead of time that the tapes would be so controversial, then what the fuck did MY GURU know really, eh? Heh, I never returned them, but they're gone now. But there's the rub that was the rub before I even thought there could be a rub: Maharishi was wrong wrong wrong and wrong again and again and again about so many things. Projects begun and abandoned -- not because Maharishi had been STUPID, but because, hey, everyone KNEW that if you're told to dig a hole and then fill it back in by the guru, you fucking dig that hole and then fill it in cuz it'll be evolutionary natch! Which was pretty much pure manipulative bullshit. And I just let it all happen in my 29 years with the TMO -- I never not once spoke up -- knowing the answers that would be given and the cost to me and my family for the truths I might report. BAH! And so, yeah, I totally understand those who still today after decades are bitter enough to come here and fucking yell their heads off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story
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dear Daniel the cocker spaniel, you've been a breath of fresh air here in the Funny Farm Lounge. As for MJ, it is, as they say, all grist for the mill. Sorry I wasn't here more. Dome and then dinner. May Love reign supreme in your life as well. with gratitude and a big hug, Share On Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:43 PM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: My Dear Share,I take your acknowledgement very seriously, because you are of as-pure-heart-as-you're-going-to-see-around-here. In fact, you (and many others) are the reason I thought I'd give ffl a retry. Sometimes second-times-around don't work out. And I accept that. Lovingly, From NYC...Daniel the Cocker Spaniel (as my dear sister fondly called her cherished younger brother). May Love reign supreme in your life! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Dan, imho, you aimed high and you put in a stellar effort. Yay! Share On Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:03 PM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Sorry Fleet,I know I let you down. He just kept asking for it. Is he under your care, or on his own? Trying to Care, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Mr Fleetwood,It is very honorable of you both to be loyal to your friend and honest with me at the same time. I do appreciate your candor. You are again correct when you describe the nature of friendship. God knows that few of my friends are close to perfect (more often, barely decent). And I am the last to talk. I am a rascal, a scoundrel, and a betrayer...but always a good friend. I honor your friendship and will stop my fucking-around with a man you appreciate so dearly. Respectfully, Mark Daniel Friedman NYC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth
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Dear Share,Thank you for your encouragement; it means a great deal to me. This Cult of Anti-TM that has grown up here on ffl is just living off of our attention. I had hoped to help Mike, in particular, see that just being anti-something is not the same as being for-something. Without any purpose life gets lost, it becomes meaningless and one (ie Mike) just lashes out. It is a human tragedy, but one that must be relived until understood. I only wish I could have done more; perhaps he'll change in the morning, after a good night's sleep. I wish you well, and sweet dreams, dear. Sincerely, D ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : dear Daniel the cocker spaniel, you've been a breath of fresh air here in the Funny Farm Lounge. As for MJ, it is, as they say, all grist for the mill. Sorry I wasn't here more. Dome and then dinner. May Love reign supreme in your life as well. with gratitude and a big hug, Share On Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:43 PM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: My Dear Share,I take your acknowledgement very seriously, because you are of as-pure-heart-as-you're-going-to-see-around-here. In fact, you (and many others) are the reason I thought I'd give ffl a retry. Sometimes second-times-around don't work out. And I accept that. Lovingly, From NYC...Daniel the Cocker Spaniel (as my dear sister fondly called her cherished younger brother). May Love reign supreme in your life! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Dan, imho, you aimed high and you put in a stellar effort. Yay! Share On Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:03 PM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Sorry Fleet,I know I let you down. He just kept asking for it. Is he under your care, or on his own? Trying to Care, Dan ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Mr Fleetwood,It is very honorable of you both to be loyal to your friend and honest with me at the same time. I do appreciate your candor. You are again correct when you describe the nature of friendship. God knows that few of my friends are close to perfect (more often, barely decent). And I am the last to talk. I am a rascal, a scoundrel, and a betrayer...but always a good friend. I honor your friendship and will stop my fucking-around with a man you appreciate so dearly. Respectfully, Mark Daniel Friedman NYC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Me and MJ go back aways. When he isn't writing rather woodenly about all things TM, he produces some awesome stuff. So even though I disagree with some of his stuff, and give him shit about it, it is more a chapter in the story, than the story itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Fleety, I am back from my luncheon repast of Macaroni and Cheese, during which I thought of you constantly. Why? I see that you are being drawn in by Mr Mike. Have you NEVER watched vintage SNL? Please investigate the early shows to see what happens when Mr Mike lures you in. Beware of the danger which has not yet come. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - Glad you liked it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great
