[FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
I haven't had contact with Deans in over 27 years but I knew him when he was a regular working stiff and I can tell you this: he was the most successful person in his field, was a go-getter, and there wasn't anything spaced out about the guy. This is not someone who had to escape to the confines of the Movement because he couldn't make it in the real world. He outshined everyone in the real world. The medical term is ideology, it rots the brain and makes intelligent people do stupid things. There are plenty of examples in the TMO of otherwise bright well organized people who get infected with ideology and then behave as if they've had parts of their brains removed. Technically they have, but without having had the operation, they've silently shut down parts of their intelligence in order to be with the group. It's not something that's unique to the TMO, other groups can get infected too. In fact so common that it's the rule rather than the exception. Look at the number of otherwise bright scientists who think that the laws of thermodynamics no longer apply to the earth's atmosphere and therefore by some miracle increasing CO2 isn't going to make the earth warmer. A simple hand calculation, as Fourier did in 1845, would show that it can't possibly work like that, yet to be with the group they'll shut off parts of their brains and believe obvious nonsense even though they have the intelligence and training to actually sit down and do a hand calculation to show that it's nonsense. Michael Shermer in The borderlands of science relates an example of someone being hypnotized to forget that the number 8 exists. They'll count on their fingers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10,11. They know the real answer is not 11 but they can't work out why they keep getting 11 when they count their fingers. Even an explanation won't help them, they have to be un-hypnotized to be able to see the number 8 again. Google groupthink for other examples of clever people doing dumb things. If Ashley Deans was taken out of the TMO and recovered his intelligence he'd most likely be a very sensible person.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
Today's Big Government is certainly no friend to business, it sounds unConstitutional to me, to require an insurance Company to carry anybody!? It sounds like there will be subsidies for low income individuals which would require taxes to go up. I doubt they'll find a half a trillion of cuts in Medicare to finance this. But then, America is a Rich Country Barack Obama --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... wrote: It's already mandatory here in Massachusetts. Insurance companies on this state have not been able to deny coverage to anyone for well over a decade...premiums went way up when that was legislated. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 12/19/09, BillyG wg...@... wrote: From: BillyG wg...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 9:11 PM Insurance companies would be barred immediately from denying coverage to children because of a pre-existing health condition. The prohibition on denial of coverage for adults would not take effect in the Senate bill until 2014, a disappointment for consumer advocates. Why not just wait till you get sick? Except for the penalties you'd get away with it, now you MUST have insurance!! I wonder how this is going to play out..? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
On Dec 19, 2009, at 10:57 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:00 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Oh ok, my bad. (sounds awful though -- like watching JaJa Binks in 3d :-) It was actually quite good. However if you are a conservative or a Republican, the jabs in it--several directly aimed at Bush Admin policies and some taken from Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld and Neocon way of thinking--will make you say things like Mike said. Well that shouldn't be a problem for me, seeing as how I was the first on FFL to support Obama. It was a very tantric movie in that it dealt well with inter-dimensional congress Several times angelic-like females have descended and made love to me in my sleep. Not joking. Its as real as it gets. The movie will not capture that. The feeling stays with you for days, weeks, and even for a lifetime you can recall it and it comes back. Very humbling feeling mixed with sweet love. Yes, but does she let you see the children? Buddhist and Shaivite yogis have actually perfected such interdimensional congress for the expansion of consciousness, but I think it's fair to say, not all such unions are necessarily evolutionary. But union with a yakshini is many times more intense than with a human. V Of the Sabbath of the Adepts In the black hours of earth, when the Christian superstition with fell blight withered most malignantly the peoples of Europe, when our own Holy Order was dispersed and the sanctity of its preceptories lay violate, there were yet found certain to hold Truth in their hearts, and, loving Light, to bear the Lamp of Virtue beneath the Cloak of Secrecy. And these at certain seasons went at night by ways open or hidden to heaths and mountains, and there dancing together, and with strange suppers and spells diverse, did call forth Him, whom the enemy called ignorantly Satan, and was in truth the Great God Pan, or Bacchus, or even that Baphomet whom the Templars worshipped secretly, and yet worship as in the VI° all Illustrious Knights of the Holy Order of Kadosch, all Dame Companions of the Holy Grail are taught to do, or BABALON the Beautiful, or even Zeus Apollo of the Greeks. And each when first inducted to the revel was made partner of that Incarnate One by the Consummation of the Rite of Marriage. Consider of this. VI Of Classical Fables The Ancients of every nation report their heroes to have been born of the marriage of Gods with mortals. As, Romulus and Remus begotten of the God Mars upon a vestal Virgin, Hercules of Jove, Buddha of Vishnu in the form of a white elephant with six tusks, Jesus of Jehovah upon a virgin, and many another. Even true Gods were born of mortal mothers, as Dionysius of Semele. Also they recount many loves of heaven for earth, Diana for Endymion, Zeus for Leda, Danae, Europa, and the rest; even Hades issued from his gloomy kingdom to ravish the maid Persephone. There are also loves of Gods for nymphs, Bacchus for the Ariadne, Zeus for Io, Pan for Syrinx; there is no end of these. And satyrs, fawns, centaurs, dryads, a thousand gracious tribes, leap lightly and lustfully through their legends. Again we have the loves of fairies for mankind, and the commerce of the Beni Elohim with the daughters of men; and yet again the marriage of Orpheus with Eurydice a nymph, and the fatal nets that Laura, Melusina, the Sirens, Lilith and many another cast for men. It is even said that to every Neophyte of the Order of A\A\ appeareth a demon in the form of a woman to pervert him; within Our own knowledge have not less than nine brethren been utterly cast out thereby. There are also vain loves, as that of Ixion for Hera, of Actaeon for Artemis. Consider of this. VII Of Certain Greek Rites Among the peoples of the Balkan Peninsula and especially the Greeks, beneath the bush of their false Christianity, is hidden the wheat of Demeter. And even as the Muslim trust to be united by death to the Hur al’ Ayn of Paradise, so do these others yet think that earthly marriage is but fornication, for that Death is a nuptial wherein the soul is united to that God or Goddess to whom on earth his lust aspired. Thus, even in the embraces of their lovers, their hearts were fixed on Artemis or on Aphrodite or on Ares or on Apollo, as the inner tendency urges and the intuition thereof proclaims. Consider of this. VIII Of Succubi and Incubi From all time the life of man has now and again overflowed, in sleep, without will, and only reflected itself dimly and fantastically by dream into his knowledge. Now since naught can be lost on any plane, but only changed in appearance, the inner substance of this life-stuff does indeed beget monsters in part material, which the doctors of the Middle Ages called Incubi or Succubi according as they performed the functions of male or female. These, too, begat children upon women; but not
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
Can you list for a moment what were some of the positives and neagtives in that preschool through 12 experience. Glimpses we have in the past range from the scandalous, to strong friendships being forged. Care to share? Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, therewillbeli...@... no_re...@... wrote: Hey all--this is my first time posting after lots of lurking. I grew up in FF and attended MSAE from preschool through 12th grade. I haven't practiced TM or the Sidhis since I graduated and I have mixed feelings about the TMO. As most of you know, the school was far from ideal. I'm just wondering if it's improved at all since Dr. Deans left. I always thought he was a bumbling idiot, but I chalked my opinion up to the fact that I was a disillusioned teenager. I was just discussing it with my mother (both of my parents are still in the TMO) and she said the parents felt the same way about Dr. Deans. I digress. There have been some positive changes at MUM from what I've heard, and I hope those changed have carried over to MSAE.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , therewillbeli...@... no_re...@... wrote: All I know is that he was not the right person to be head of MSAE and almost everyone felt that way. There was a major disconnect between him and the student/parents. I have no doubt that he had good intentions, he simply wasn't tuned in and therefore came across as a bumbling idiot despite his intelligence in other areas. He's more of a University academic type I think. He didn't ask for the job I don't think, and he's always a good speaker and advocate. Maharishi always put people in positions they did not seem right for at first, but it is possible that his position there had other effects that are still to unfold. I have seen this happen with other things Maharishi implemented, and I find myself ranting with a friend about the craziness of something but then end up concluding that, in fact, it was the best thing to do, or that something occured because of it that I hadn't thought of. There are many things I still think are crazy though, the middle of Kansas for example, and weighing a man in his weight in gold, trying to close down the souhern entrances of countries, and tying to build the tallest building in the world, but who knows, maybe I'll be proven wrong, but probably not in this lifetime :-) Ashley Deans as Principal is down right rational compared to these others. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , therewillbelight@ no_reply@ wrote: Hey all--this is my first time posting after lots of lurking. I grew up in FF and attended MSAE from preschool through 12th grade. I haven't practiced TM or the Sidhis since I graduated and I have mixed feelings about the TMO. As most of you know, the school was far from ideal. I'm just wondering if it's improved at all since Dr. Deans left. I always thought he was a bumbling idiot, but I chalked my opinion up to the fact that I was a disillusioned teenager. I was just discussing it with my mother (both of my parents are still in the TMO) and she said the parents felt the same way about Dr. Deans. I digress. There have been some positive changes at MUM from what I've heard, and I hope those changed have carried over to MSAE. I haven't had contact with Deans in over 27 years but I knew him when he was a regular working stiff and I can tell you this: he was the most successful person in his field, was a go-getter, and there wasn't anything spaced out about the guy. This is not someone who had to escape to the confines of the Movement because he couldn't make it in the real world. He outshined everyone in the real world.
[FairfieldLife] seeking all your ideas
Hello everyone! x Im seeking your infinite wisdom! Some people label meditation as brainwashing Im sure youve been to many groups some new age some traditional have a wide range of the things that go right wrong for these groups. And Im sure youve seen mistreatment abuse too. So please all you great yogis ;) contribute to my document which in the end will be a list of 10 religious ethics that stop abuse document below please edit add ideas Greetings I am writing a document that can be used to criticise cults and am seeking advice ideas for editing it from former cult members. If you feel anything is missing or something could be said clearer please give me your opinion ideas, thank you. It is 10 ethics based on Rick Ross's 10 Characteristics of a Cult Document below 1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability. The religious ethic: The solution to this is to have a feedback system where the feedback is valued considered properly addressed both by the leader its administrators. Would this solve it? Let¡¯s try an example out. In any religious organization, where celibates are running the show, if they have a sex scandal this is damaging. So let¡¯s apply my solution. Feedback ignored : always someone speaks up in the early stages. By discounting their evidence, the person with the hidden scandal will rise in the organization later when in a high position it will almost always come to light. At that time¡Ü a lot of people will be affected. Most people will remember this scandal think of how the person was hiding it, putting on a clean face. There will then develop 2 groups. The people trying to move on from the scandal the people exposing it. Feedback listened to : Before the person gets power, the scandal is told. The person exposing it is LISTENED to an investigation is done that establishes the truth. The accused clearly understands the catalogue of disasters that will come if they are dishonest in caring for the reputation of the organization cooperates with investigation. 2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry. -- The religious ethic: Again a feedback system that is not just a token gesture but genuine. Listening to feedback is a great protector of religious groups. If 1 out of 10 people are finding a problem, then when you convert 1000 people, 100 of them will have a problem. So it is crucial to solve these problems address these issues in the early stages. 3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement. --- The religious ethic (please comment revise) Do not take large amounts of money from individuals. Find an ethical way to fundraise that is not this method. Do not lavish the leaders admins with luxury whilst the new boy grinds away in a servile manner. Do not spend fundraised money on other than you declared it was for. So the outcome: Advice ignored : Amongst the entourage of the leader, accountants admins with time people naturally leave any organization a few are unhappy. Those people produce financial information they were privy to that is an embarrassment. All the raised money ends up being spent on defending the group in legal circles. People come away in debt with a feeling of having being used for their money. Due to their debts they cannot move on as it is a constant reminder so they stay bitter naturally begin to warn others. Advice listened to : Although some people may become unhappy in certain circumstances and leave the organization they will not feel like they were used for their money. They can move on not have any debts to remind them of the organization. 4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions. Religious ethic (please comment revise this one really needs input) Do not speak ill of the non believer. They are sponsoring your spiritual life, building your halls of worship, making the clothes you wear providing a society in which all the things you need are given with ease. They are also supporting your religious freedom. Do not say they are degenerates, lower beings, foolish etc. Always keep respect gratitude valuing of the community. Keep good relations with neighbours and the community without any conversion agenda. Do not chastise people who want to read news go outside socialize. (Does this go against any traditional way of life?) Advice ignored : The larger community will always find out from former members that they are being spoken of as lesser or lower. The group will get a bad reputation in wider society for doing this. Without interaction with the community(please
[FairfieldLife] Re: seeking all your ideas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymous_wone no_re...@... wrote: Hello everyone! x Im seeking your infinite wisdom! Try thinking up your own ideas for a paper. Rehashing someone else's rehash isn't exactly the way to demonstrate that you're *not* brain- washed. Even Rick Ross would think you're a wuss. It's like screaming, I have nothing of my own to contribute, so I'll just rehash what this anti-cult guru told me to think, to prove how bad cultists who mindlessly follow gurus are. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: I have seen this happen with other things Maharishi implemented, and I find myself ranting with a friend about the craziness of something but then end up concluding that, in fact, it was the best thing to do, such as? or that something occured because of it that I hadn't thought of. such as? There are many things I still think are crazy though, the middle of Kansas for example, and weighing a man in his weight in gold, trying to close down the souhern entrances of countries, and tying to build the tallest building in the world, but who knows, maybe I'll be proven wrong, but probably not in this lifetime :-) Ashley Deans as Principal is down right rational compared to these others. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , therewillbelight@ no_reply@ wrote: Hey all--this is my first time posting after lots of lurking. I grew up in FF and attended MSAE from preschool through 12th grade. I haven't practiced TM or the Sidhis since I graduated and I have mixed feelings about the TMO. As most of you know, the school was far from ideal. I'm just wondering if it's improved at all since Dr. Deans left. I always thought he was a bumbling idiot, but I chalked my opinion up to the fact that I was a disillusioned teenager. I was just discussing it with my mother (both of my parents are still in the TMO) and she said the parents felt the same way about Dr. Deans. I digress. There have been some positive changes at MUM from what I've heard, and I hope those changed have carried over to MSAE. I haven't had contact with Deans in over 27 years but I knew him when he was a regular working stiff and I can tell you this: he was the most successful person in his field, was a go-getter, and there wasn't anything spaced out about the guy. This is not someone who had to escape to the confines of the Movement because he couldn't make it in the real world. He outshined everyone in the real world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
I saw it Friday night. I thought there would be a huge throng, so I picked a low traffic theatre, and it didn't have 3D, so I was disappointed there. But I enjoyed it. I felt he really got the mystical, back to nature, indigenous people tuned into nature part right. When I go to a movie, as long as I don't feel I wasted my money, or more importantly, time, then I feel pretty good. My kid wants to see 2012, and I heard that it is sort of stupid, but the SE make it entertaining. Yea, entertaining, (and a little escape). I Can always use some of that. Also plan to see The Road, today if possible. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: I saw it last night at the 12:01 AM showing. It's a wonderful movie but very predictable. Kind of a *Star Wars/ Dances With Wolves* kind of movie. 3D is excellent and worth seeing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
will make you say things like Mike said? What, predictable or Comparing it to *Star Wars* and *Dances With Wolves* or that I liked it? From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 7:25:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:00 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Oh ok, my bad. (sounds awful though -- like watching JaJa Binks in 3d :-) It was actually quite good. However if you are a conservative or a Republican, the jabs in it--several directly aimed at Bush Admin policies and some taken from Bush-Cheney- Rumsfeld and Neocon way of thinking--will make you say things like Mike said. It was a very tantric movie in that it dealt well with inter-dimensional congress and the idea of interdependent origination as a web naturally connecting all sentience.
[FairfieldLife] Re: seeking all your ideas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymous_wone no_reply@ wrote: Hello everyone! x Im seeking your infinite wisdom! Try thinking up your own ideas for a paper. Just ignore Barry. He takes pleasure in dumping on anything anybody else (especially a newcomer) is enthusiastic about (unless it's something he himself is enthusiastic about, of course). He read no further in your document than the words based on, which supplied him with an excuse to put you down (which was all he was looking for in any case). If he'd read the rest of it, he'd have realized you've put a lot of your own thought into it, using Ross's points as a jumping-off place. (Not that that would have stopped Barry from putting you down; he'd just have had to work a little harder to do it, and he prefers not to have to exert himself if at all possible.) What you say sounds reasonable to me. I'm wondering, though, if it might be interesting to see if you could get comments from group *leaders* as well as members and former members. How do leaders justify in their own minds the kinds of behavior you'd like to see reformed? Would that give you any insights into how to approach the problems more effectively? Would any of the justifications make sense, or would they all be purely self-serving? Even if the latter, would knowing how leaders see things add to the understanding of the dynamics of such groups? Don't know if you could find any leaders who'd be willing to respond, but perhaps it would be worth a try.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
Supreme Court? CAn the government *make* you buy anything? From: BillyG wg...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 6:11:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory! Insurance companies would be barred immediately from denying coverage to children because of a pre-existing health condition. The prohibition on denial of coverage for adults would not take effect in the Senate bill until 2014, a disappointment for consumer advocates. Why not just wait till you get sick? Except for the penalties you'd get away with it, now you MUST have insurance!! I wonder how this is going to play out..?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
Thanks for the feedback. One thing you may want to consider is a support group, or individual therapy or both. Talking through issues, and sharing them with others with similiar experiences can really help in sorting stuff out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, therewillbeli...@... no_re...@... wrote: As with everything, there was good and bad. I had some fabulous teachers, some horrible teachers, and lots of in-between teachers. The only really scandalous thing I remember was when a teacher was fired because he allegedly had sexual fantasies about his students. Overall I have more unpleasant memories than pleasant ones of my MSAE years. I was not a happy child in general and I have no way of knowing if I would have been happier at another school. I struggled a lot, academically and emotionally, during high school. The school did nothing to help and in many ways made it worse. It still makes me angry when MSAE is touted as being an ideal school and that every student can excel, because that is complete and utter BS. It's ideal for the few people who fit their mold. They were clueless about how to deal with anyone who didn't fit the mold. We were made to believe that there was something wrong with us. I remember one time during 12th grade SCI class when the tescher talking about how TM is a cure for everything, I burst into tears. If TM could cure everything, why did I have all these issues? What was I doing wrong. I didn't smoke, drink, do drugs, or have sex (unlike several other students). I did my program every day. Why wasn't I cured? I was tought that there was only one right way to do things and when I was younger I was very judgmental of any non-meditators. My parents, though still in the TMO, have become much more open-minded in recent years and I'm very grateful that they respect my beliefs. My wish for MSAE is that they stop the false advertising and learn to better accomodate people who don't fit their mold. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Can you list for a moment what were some of the positives and neagtives in that preschool through 12 experience. Glimpses we have in the past range from the scandalous, to strong friendships being forged. Care to share? Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, therewillbelight@ no_reply@ wrote: Hey all--this is my first time posting after lots of lurking. I grew up in FF and attended MSAE from preschool through 12th grade. I haven't practiced TM or the Sidhis since I graduated and I have mixed feelings about the TMO. As most of you know, the school was far from ideal. I'm just wondering if it's improved at all since Dr. Deans left. I always thought he was a bumbling idiot, but I chalked my opinion up to the fact that I was a disillusioned teenager. I was just discussing it with my mother (both of my parents are still in the TMO) and she said the parents felt the same way about Dr. Deans. I digress. There have been some positive changes at MUM from what I've heard, and I hope those changed have carried over to MSAE.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
Of course they'll go up! You will have to pay the insurance companies to take care of people they didn't have to take care of before. We can all help pay the medical burden of alcholics, smokers, people not practicing safe sex, morbidly obese, etc. From: gullible fool ffl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 6:38:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory! It's already mandatory here in Massachusetts. Insurance companies on this state have not been able to deny coverage to anyone for well over a decade...premiums went way up when that was legislated. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 12/19/09, BillyG wg...@yahoo. com wrote: From: BillyG wg...@yahoo. com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory! To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 9:11 PM Insurance companies would be barred immediately from denying coverage to children because of a pre-existing health condition. The prohibition on denial of coverage for adults would not take effect in the Senate bill until 2014, a disappointment for consumer advocates. Why not just wait till you get sick? Except for the penalties you'd get away with it, now you MUST have insurance!! I wonder how this is going to play out..? - - -- To subscribe, send a message to: FairfieldLife- subscribe@ yahoogroups. com Or go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/FairfieldL ife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Just Been Thinking
Seeing Avatar, and reading a lot recently of reports of possible liquid water on other planets, had me thinking that if intelligent life is found, then Christian missionaries would feel compelled to immediately go and try to convert the inhabitants. I am not poking fun at them. But, I figure that a world view that holds that Jesus is the Lord of the Unverse, does really allow for any renegade provinces that may not have heard the good news. I think discovered life on another planet, (if it happens) is going to be a tough one here.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
On Dec 20, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: will make you say things like Mike said? What, predictable or Comparing it to *Star Wars* and *Dances With Wolves* or that I liked it? Predictable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Been Thinking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Seeing Avatar, and reading a lot recently of reports of possible liquid water on other planets, had me thinking that if intelligent life is found, then Christian missionaries would feel compelled to immediately go and try to convert the inhabitants. I am not poking fun at them. But, I figure that a world view that holds that Jesus is the Lord of the Unverse, does'nt really allow for any renegade provinces that may not have heard the good news. I think discovered life on another planet, (if it happens) is going to be a tough one here.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
Big government is the result of big business. They have a partnership as corporate slime proudly put it. Apparently you guys don't have the brains to understand this. Neither is good. We need government to maintain the commons but it does not need to be in your face. And big business is just the expression of someone's ego trip. They keep building a company bigger and bigger, gobbling up other firms (in corporatespeak called acquisitions) and with little or no regard what impact this all has on society which is in general negative. Competition is good and monopolies are not. And maybe some lifetime you'll be born with a brain that can understand all this. BillyG wrote: Today's Big Government is certainly no friend to business, it sounds unConstitutional to me, to require an insurance Company to carry anybody!? It sounds like there will be subsidies for low income individuals which would require taxes to go up. I doubt they'll find a half a trillion of cuts in Medicare to finance this. But then, America is a Rich Country Barack Obama --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... wrote: It's already mandatory here in Massachusetts. Insurance companies on this state have not been able to deny coverage to anyone for well over a decade...premiums went way up when that was legislated. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 12/19/09, BillyG wg...@... wrote: From: BillyG wg...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 9:11 PM Insurance companies would be barred immediately from denying coverage to children because of a pre-existing health condition. The prohibition on denial of coverage for adults would not take effect in the Senate bill until 2014, a disappointment for consumer advocates. Why not just wait till you get sick? Except for the penalties you'd get away with it, now you MUST have insurance!! I wonder how this is going to play out..? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:44 AM, BillyG wg...@yahoo.com wrote: Today's Big Government is certainly no friend to business Bullshit. Big Government does all it can for Big Business. In fact, Big Business calls each and every shot taken by Big Government. Now Big Business is no friend of little business. What's good for General Motors is good for the country has always been the case, even during the Civil War when the equivalents of GM were racking in the dough. it sounds unConstitutional to me, to require an insurance Company to carry anybody!? It's also unConstitutional for the Federal Government to require States to spend money. But it's done constantly. How? If you want you highway money (money taken in from the drivers in the state in federal gasoline taxes, e.g.), you'll pass this bill, you'll do this, you'll spend money on that. Been going on for decades. If we can get around states rights, why not get around individual rights? It sounds like there will be subsidies for low income individuals which would require taxes to go up. I doubt they'll find a half a trillion of cuts in Medicare to finance this. But then, America is a Rich Country Barack Obama We're not good at accounting for the future. Especially when an administration is in power for from 4-10 (in the case of succession to the presidency then reelections) and calculations are always done over a 10 year future. Congress meets and passes bills every year, remember.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 9:04:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar On Dec 20, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: will make you say things like Mike said? What, predictable or Comparing it to *Star Wars* and *Dances With Wolves* or that I liked it? Predictable .
Re: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Of course they'll go up! You will have to pay the insurance companies to take care of people they didn't have to take care of before. We can all help pay the medical burden of alcholics, smokers, people not practicing safe sex, morbidly obese, etc. Remember, insurance company outflows will be somewhat balanced by receiving premiums from the immortals, the 20-30 somethings who usually don't carry insurance because they typically don't get sick. Babies, accidents and occasionally cancer but usual not much else for this age group. Somehow we're going to prevent obesity, unsafe sex, smoking, alcoholism with preventive care. Maybe everybody will be taught to read their pulse?
[FairfieldLife] Humor: Traditional Atheist Holiday Time
Though I'm not an atheist (been there, done that, got the t-shirt) this is quite funny. http://www.bigfatwhale.com/archives/bfw_439.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Just Been Thinking
On Dec 20, 2009, at 11:39 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Seeing Avatar, and reading a lot recently of reports of possible liquid water on other planets, had me thinking that if intelligent life is found, then Christian missionaries would feel compelled to immediately go and try to convert the inhabitants. I am not poking fun at them. But, I figure that a world view that holds that Jesus is the Lord of the Unverse, does really allow for any renegade provinces that may not have heard the good news. I think discovered life on another planet, (if it happens) is going to be a tough one here. I would suspect, like in Avatar, that the primary harm to other intelligent lifeforms would be due to militarism and/or corporatism. But keeping in mind that these two are, at least in the US, associated with ethnocentric levels of god worship and esp. Christian fundamentalism, the chances are fundie types would want to impose their primitive beliefs on even a more advanced civilization--which they would see Coulter-like, as Godless. It's interesting that in the Star Trek mythos their civilization had developed what they called the prime directive, no interference with civilizations with less development. It would take humanity getting over it's collective God delusion in order for that to happen IMO. Unless militarism ceases or dramatically decreases, the chances of humanity (collectively) moving beyond primitive religious conceptions is unlikely, as the survival mode that war thrusts upon a nation or people will inevitably force them into more primitive religious memes. I tend to agree with HHDL, who when he spoke to Hindu leaders at the Kumbha Mela a number of years back said 'the time of conversion has ended'. It could also be that space travel will require that forms of spiritual mastery, like being able to go into suspended animation, be wedded with technology. Such scientific realties could render primitive earth religions obsolete and potentially catalyze human evolution.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Been Thinking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Seeing Avatar, and reading a lot recently of reports of possible liquid water on other planets, had me thinking that if intelligent life is found, then Christian missionaries would feel compelled to immediately go and try to convert the inhabitants. I am not poking fun at them. But, I figure that a world view that holds that Jesus is the Lord of the Unverse, does'nt really allow for any renegade provinces that may not have heard the good news. I think discovered life on another planet, (if it happens) is going to be a tough one here. If you like thinking about such things, Steve, I highly recommend a pair of novels by Mary Doria Russell. The first is called The Swallow and the sequel (necessary to get over the impact of the original) is called Children Of God. Both are brilliant. In The Swallow, Jesuit priests working at the deep radio dish in Areceibo are on hand when the first radio communication arrives that definitely, no question about it, is from another species that does not live on Earth. They live on a planet that is actually reachable. So while the governments of the Earth are arguing about who is going to go there and who is going to pay for it and get the credit for it, the Jesuits (phenomenally wealthy) do what they've always done and mount their own expedition. Part scientists, part priests, they go to this planet with the best of intentions. And it turns out really, really, really badly. Heartbreakingly badly, shattering the life of the priest at the heart of it all. It really takes the followup novel Children Of God to resolve things and make things somehow all right again. The Sparrow was Russell's first novel. It won the Arthur C. Clarke Award, James Tiptree, Jr. Award, Kurd-Laßwitz-Preis and the British Science Fiction Association Award. But please don't think that these science fiction credentials make it lightweight on in any way a genre novel. Mary Doria Russell's favorite author is the same as mine, Dorothy Dunnett. That's a pretty awesome role model to feel that you have to live up to in your own writing. She does.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative-Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
It's just a ride wrote: Somehow we're going to prevent obesity, unsafe sex, smoking, alcoholism with preventive care. Maybe everybody will be taught to read their pulse? So what dosha are you today? :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
Vaj wrote: On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative-Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror? The usual business associate that likes to go see movies with me isn't big on this one either. Cameron is often long on hype and short on story. So far no one has said it will win a golden globe. I saw 2012 but Emmerich is humble compared to Cameron. I'll have to check to see if the schools are out all this week. If not I may go check it out otherwise I'll skip it until school is back in session if I still chose to go. BTW, 3D digital performances are as good the last day it is shown as the first because there is no film to scratch. That is unless some dumbshit kid hasn't thrown his drink at the screen and the theater hasn't cleaned it properly (or replaced it in some cases).
[FairfieldLife] Twelve Days of Christmas from Kenosha
Christmas greetings from the police force of Kenosha, Wisconsin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_risJzuR2E (After the song finishes, no need to watch the rest; it's just an endless series of photos of officers and staff.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative-Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror? The usual business associate that likes to go see movies with me isn't big on this one either. Cameron is often long on hype and short on story. The story here is largely non-verbal, as much of the story is about an advanced spiritual technology, interfacing with a Brahman-like unified field, which is portrayed visually and which only needs to be briefly described verbally. An interesting aside, at the beginning of the previews where you're told to put on your 3D glasses, the theatre I saw it at opened with a 3D advert. by the US Air Force. It was very clearly targeted at kids and teens. The tagline is It's not science fiction: it's what we do every day; it's the United States Air Force. The hidden tagline is 'if you like video games and Sci-fi, you'll just love killing people with us, you've never have to see the blood. Sign up now!' I'm finding all movies for the last several years have cheesy military advertisements in with the previews. This was the first 3D one.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
On Dec 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Vaj wrote: An interesting aside, at the beginning of the previews where you're told to put on your 3D glasses, the theatre I saw it at opened with a 3D advert. by the US Air Force. It was very clearly targeted at kids and teens. The tagline is It's not science fiction: it's what we do every day; it's the United States Air Force. The hidden tagline is 'if you like video games and Sci-fi, you'll just love killing people with us, you've never have to see the blood. Sign up now!' I'm finding all movies for the last several years have cheesy military advertisements in with the previews. This was the first 3D one. http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123165646 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiB3vrhPDNs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Supreme Court? CAn the government *make* you buy anything? Are you required by the government to buy auto insurance Mr Dixon? If so, why do you think that is, eh? From: BillyG wg...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 6:11:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory! Â Insurance companies would be barred immediately from denying coverage to children because of a pre-existing health condition. The prohibition on denial of coverage for adults would not take effect in the Senate bill until 2014, a disappointment for consumer advocates. Why not just wait till you get sick? Except for the penalties you'd get away with it, now you MUST have insurance!! I wonder how this is going to play out..?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Supreme Court? CAn the government *make* you buy anything? Are you required by the government to buy auto insurance Mr Dixon? If so, why do you think that is, eh? Now if health insurance were only as cheap as auto insurance. I pay roughly around $600 a year for auto insurance. I wouldn't complain at all if that was what I paid for health insurance. And at that I probably am still paying to much. For instance a lot of insurers have convinced people they need more collision coverage because there are cars on the road that cost more than $50K. I think that may be a ripoff. If you pay more than 50K for a vehicle maybe you are the one who should buy additional coverage instead. Since I turn 63 this week I got a nice little letter from my health insurance extortionists saying my rate will go up (about $60 a month). So it is time to go to their site and find a higher deductible policy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
Today's Big Government is certainly no friend to business, it sounds unConstitutional to me, to require an insurance Company to carry anybody!? I looked into insurance coverage when this was first legislated. The insurance companies were not allowed to even ask what my health issues were. It sounds like there will be subsidies for low income individuals which would require taxes to go up. The masses of unemployed can get medicaid coverage. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sun, 12/20/09, BillyG wg...@yahoo.com wrote: From: BillyG wg...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 3:44 AM Today's Big Government is certainly no friend to business, it sounds unConstitutional to me, to require an insurance Company to carry anybody!? It sounds like there will be subsidies for low income individuals which would require taxes to go up. I doubt they'll find a half a trillion of cuts in Medicare to finance this. But then, America is a Rich Country Barack Obama --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... wrote: It's already mandatory here in Massachusetts. Insurance companies on this state have not been able to deny coverage to anyone for well over a decade...premiums went way up when that was legislated. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 12/19/09, BillyG wg...@... wrote: From: BillyG wg...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 9:11 PM Insurance companies would be barred immediately from denying coverage to children because of a pre-existing health condition. The prohibition on denial of coverage for adults would not take effect in the Senate bill until 2014, a disappointment for consumer advocates. Why not just wait till you get sick? Except for the penalties you'd get away with it, now you MUST have insurance!! I wonder how this is going to play out..? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
The problem is that people move in and out of employment. That's why we need single player. But this country is so enamored with capitalism that they can't stand the idea of driving the health insurance companies out of business. You know the ones that overpay their executives while their insured die from being denied care? America has become a hideous joke. gullible fool wrote: Today's Big Government is certainly no friend to business, it sounds unConstitutional to me, to require an insurance Company to carry anybody!? I looked into insurance coverage when this was first legislated. The insurance companies were not allowed to even ask what my health issues were. It sounds like there will be subsidies for low income individuals which would require taxes to go up. The masses of unemployed can get medicaid coverage. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma
[FairfieldLife] Hot tip for foodies
I may be making a vegetarian chili or lentil soup with my crock pot for the family dinner. To be ready I did a search and CD Kitchen once again came up a winner. But they done something more since the last time I visited. You can set the number of servings you need and it will adjust the recipe for that. And their printing tool can print in varying formats (8x11, recipe card, etc). Very cool. http://www.cdkitchen.com/
[FairfieldLife] To Barry re Dexter
I presume you finished watching it. What did you think of the ending?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:26 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you required by the government to buy auto insurance Mr Dixon? If so, why do you think that is, eh? None of us are required to buy auto insurance. We just need to file proof of financial responsibility, i.e. proof that property, both private and public, and health, will be covered if there is an accident. Most large outfits self-insure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
On Dec 20, 2009, at 10:22 AM, therewillbeli...@ymail.com wrote: As with everything, there was good and bad. I had some fabulous teachers, some horrible teachers, and lots of in-between teachers. The only really scandalous thing I remember was when a teacher was fired because he allegedly had sexual fantasies about his students. He was fired over *fantasies*? That's it? Everyone has fantasies. What he really should have been fired for was being stupid enough to tell anyone. Overall I have more unpleasant memories than pleasant ones of my MSAE years. I was not a happy child in general and I have no way of knowing if I would have been happier at another school. I struggled a lot, academically and emotionally, during high school. The school did nothing to help and in many ways made it worse. It still makes me angry when MSAE is touted as being an ideal school and that every student can excel, because that is complete and utter BS. We've discussed this any number of times here, light, and the general consensus seems to be that the whole ideal thing has taken a big beating in the last few years, with the school currently struggling--combining different grades, giving deals, and even bringing in counselors-- finally!--in recognition that many students there have problems that go beyond what they can deal with in the classroom. It's ideal for the few people who fit their mold. They were clueless about how to deal with anyone who didn't fit the mold. We were made to believe that there was something wrong with us. I remember one time during 12th grade SCI class when the tescher talking about how TM is a cure for everything, I burst into tears. If TM could cure everything, why did I have all these issues? What was I doing wrong. I didn't smoke, drink, do drugs, or have sex (unlike several other students). I did my program every day. Why wasn't I cured? I was tought that there was only one right way to do things and when I was younger I was very judgmental of any non-meditators. Ah, memories. :) My parents, though still in the TMO, have become much more open-minded in recent years and I'm very grateful that they respect my beliefs. My wish for MSAE is that they stop the false advertising and learn to better accomodate people who don't fit their mold. False advertising or not, they're not fooling anyone. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Been Thinking
Thanks for the recommendation. Now I know what do to with the Barnse and Noble credit I have. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Seeing Avatar, and reading a lot recently of reports of possible liquid water on other planets, had me thinking that if intelligent life is found, then Christian missionaries would feel compelled to immediately go and try to convert the inhabitants. I am not poking fun at them. But, I figure that a world view that holds that Jesus is the Lord of the Unverse, does'nt really allow for any renegade provinces that may not have heard the good news. I think discovered life on another planet, (if it happens) is going to be a tough one here. If you like thinking about such things, Steve, I highly recommend a pair of novels by Mary Doria Russell. The first is called The Swallow and the sequel (necessary to get over the impact of the original) is called Children Of God. Both are brilliant. In The Swallow, Jesuit priests working at the deep radio dish in Areceibo are on hand when the first radio communication arrives that definitely, no question about it, is from another species that does not live on Earth. They live on a planet that is actually reachable. So while the governments of the Earth are arguing about who is going to go there and who is going to pay for it and get the credit for it, the Jesuits (phenomenally wealthy) do what they've always done and mount their own expedition. Part scientists, part priests, they go to this planet with the best of intentions. And it turns out really, really, really badly. Heartbreakingly badly, shattering the life of the priest at the heart of it all. It really takes the followup novel Children Of God to resolve things and make things somehow all right again. The Sparrow was Russell's first novel. It won the Arthur C. Clarke Award, James Tiptree, Jr. Award, Kurd-Laßwitz-Preis and the British Science Fiction Association Award. But please don't think that these science fiction credentials make it lightweight on in any way a genre novel. Mary Doria Russell's favorite author is the same as mine, Dorothy Dunnett. That's a pretty awesome role model to feel that you have to live up to in your own writing. She does.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:26 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Are you required by the government to buy auto insurance Mr Dixon? If so, why do you think that is, eh? None of us are required to buy auto insurance. We just need to file proof of financial responsibility, i.e. proof that property, both private and public, and health, will be covered if there is an accident. Most large outfits self-insure. United States In the United States, auto insurance covering liability for injuries and property damage done to others is compulsory in most states, though enforcement of the requirement varies from state to state. (emphasis added) The state of New Hampshire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire , for example, does not require motorists to carry liability insurance (the ballpark model http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballpark_model ), while in Virginia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia residents must pay the state a $500 annual fee per vehicle if they choose not to buy liability insurance.[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_insurance#cite_note-7 Penalties for not purchasing auto insurance vary by state, but often involve a substantial fine, license and/or registration suspension or revocation, as well as possible jail time in some states. Usually, the minimum required by law is third party insurance to protect third parties against the financial consequences of loss, damage or injury caused by a vehicle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_insurance#United_States
[FairfieldLife] Just for fun: type Sanskrit in SMS-style?
http://www.lipikaar.com/sanskrit
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Been Thinking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Thanks for the recommendation. Now I know what do to with the Barnse and Noble credit I have. You'll most likely have better luck finding it if you look for it under the title The Sparrow rather than The Swallow. (Barry did manage to get it right the third time.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip If you like thinking about such things, Steve, I highly recommend a pair of novels by Mary Doria Russell. The first is called The Swallow and snip In The Swallow, Jesuit priests working at the snip The Sparrow was Russell's first novel. It won the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just for fun: type Sanskrit in SMS-style?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: http://www.lipikaar.com/sanskrit That might be a cool way to learn *some* devanaagarii! Just type e.g. some consonant characters, and you get the consonant + a, that is, typing for instance 't' you get 'ta'. If you want to get mere 't' without the inherent short a-sound, you should type 'x' after the consonant, which adds the so called 'viraama' (almost like \ ) under the consonant character! Have fun! ; )
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:26 PM, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Are you required by the government to buy auto insurance Mr Dixon? If so, why do you think that is, eh? None of us are required to buy auto insurance. We just need to file proof of financial responsibility, i.e. proof that property, both private and public, and health, will be covered if there is an accident. Most large outfits self-insure. United States In the United States, auto insurance covering liability for injuries and property damage done to others is compulsory in most states, though enforcement of the requirement varies from state to state. (emphasis added) The state of New Hampshire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire , for example, does not require motorists to carry liability insurance (the ballpark model http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballpark_model ), while in Virginia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia residents must pay the state a $500 annual fee per vehicle if they choose not to buy liability insurance.[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_insurance#cite_note-7 Penalties for not purchasing auto insurance vary by state, but often involve a substantial fine, license and/or registration suspension or revocation, as well as possible jail time in some states. Usually, the minimum required by law is third party insurance to protect third parties against the financial consequences of loss, damage or injury caused by a vehicle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_insurance#United_States Driving isn't a right, it's a privilege. Plus, people can choose not to drive...and many don't. Indeed, I would suspect that one reason many people don't drive is the expense, which would include insurance premiums. Monthly insurance premiums is one of the most expensive if not (for many) the most expensive monthly cost to running a car. Healthcare insurance under the bill, as I understand, would be mandatory for everyone (and I assume there would be exceptions for those that can't afford it). Well, everyone is defined as everyone living, which one doesn't have a choice over. Big difference.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
Thanks for the suggestion. I am in therapy and I find it quite helpful. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Thanks for the feedback. One thing you may want to consider is a support group, or individual therapy or both. Talking through issues, and sharing them with others with similiar experiences can really help in sorting stuff out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, therewillbelight@ no_reply@ wrote: As with everything, there was good and bad. I had some fabulous teachers, some horrible teachers, and lots of in-between teachers. The only really scandalous thing I remember was when a teacher was fired because he allegedly had sexual fantasies about his students. Overall I have more unpleasant memories than pleasant ones of my MSAE years. I was not a happy child in general and I have no way of knowing if I would have been happier at another school. I struggled a lot, academically and emotionally, during high school. The school did nothing to help and in many ways made it worse. It still makes me angry when MSAE is touted as being an ideal school and that every student can excel, because that is complete and utter BS. It's ideal for the few people who fit their mold. They were clueless about how to deal with anyone who didn't fit the mold. We were made to believe that there was something wrong with us. I remember one time during 12th grade SCI class when the tescher talking about how TM is a cure for everything, I burst into tears. If TM could cure everything, why did I have all these issues? What was I doing wrong. I didn't smoke, drink, do drugs, or have sex (unlike several other students). I did my program every day. Why wasn't I cured? I was tought that there was only one right way to do things and when I was younger I was very judgmental of any non-meditators. My parents, though still in the TMO, have become much more open-minded in recent years and I'm very grateful that they respect my beliefs. My wish for MSAE is that they stop the false advertising and learn to better accomodate people who don't fit their mold. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Can you list for a moment what were some of the positives and neagtives in that preschool through 12 experience. Glimpses we have in the past range from the scandalous, to strong friendships being forged. Care to share? Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, therewillbelight@ no_reply@ wrote: Hey all--this is my first time posting after lots of lurking. I grew up in FF and attended MSAE from preschool through 12th grade. I haven't practiced TM or the Sidhis since I graduated and I have mixed feelings about the TMO. As most of you know, the school was far from ideal. I'm just wondering if it's improved at all since Dr. Deans left. I always thought he was a bumbling idiot, but I chalked my opinion up to the fact that I was a disillusioned teenager. I was just discussing it with my mother (both of my parents are still in the TMO) and she said the parents felt the same way about Dr. Deans. I digress. There have been some positive changes at MUM from what I've heard, and I hope those changed have carried over to MSAE.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
On Dec 20, 2009, at 5:56 PM, therewillbeli...@ymail.com wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I am in therapy and I find it quite helpful. :) This website may help you. They've helped hundreds of people such as yourself. Here are the references to the MSAE: http://tmfree.blogspot.com/search?q=MSAE
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I have seen this happen with other things Maharishi implemented, and I find myself ranting with a friend about the craziness of something but then end up concluding that, in fact, it was the best thing to do, such as? Like when he collected the High Heap of Hazards of modern medicine and made a pile out of them. Like when he said that democracy is a sham, like when he said that the UK and US were dealing too much in arms and that that was very dangerous to the world, like when he said Capitalism will fall, like when he practically ignored 9/11 and went on as if it never happened, like when he tore down all the non-Stapatya Ved buildings at MUM and replaced them, like when he told John Fagan to get out of genetics research, and John Hagelin to forget about physics, like when he raised vast sums of money from the West and then spent it in India, like when he said science will glimpse the Age of Enlightenment, and so and so on. All of these were unclear at first, but make total sense now. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , therewillbeli...@... no_re...@... wrote: As with everything, there was good and bad. I had some fabulous teachers, some horrible teachers, and lots of in-between teachers. The only really scandalous thing I remember was when a teacher was fired because he allegedly had sexual fantasies about his students. Overall I have more unpleasant memories than pleasant ones of my MSAE years. I was not a happy child in general and I have no way of knowing if I would have been happier at another school. I struggled a lot, academically and emotionally, during high school. The school did nothing to help and in many ways made it worse. It still makes me angry when MSAE is touted as being an ideal school and that every student can excel, because that is complete and utter BS. It's ideal for the few people who fit their mold. They were clueless about how to deal with anyone who didn't fit the mold. We were made to believe that there was something wrong with us. I remember one time during 12th grade SCI class when the tescher talking about how TM is a cure for everything, I burst into tears. If TM could cure everything, why did I have all these issues? What was I doing wrong. I didn't smoke, drink, do drugs, or have sex (unlike several other students). I did my program every day. Why wasn't I cured? I don't understand, what did you need to be cured of? OffWorld I was tought that there was only one right way to do things and when I was younger I was very judgmental of any non-meditators. My parents, though still in the TMO, have become much more open-minded in recent years and I'm very grateful that they respect my beliefs. My wish for MSAE is that they stop the false advertising and learn to better accomodate people who don't fit their mold. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Can you list for a moment what were some of the positives and neagtives in that preschool through 12 experience. Glimpses we have in the past range from the scandalous, to strong friendships being forged. Care to share? Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , therewillbelight@ no_reply@ wrote: Hey all--this is my first time posting after lots of lurking. I grew up in FF and attended MSAE from preschool through 12th grade. I haven't practiced TM or the Sidhis since I graduated and I have mixed feelings about the TMO. As most of you know, the school was far from ideal. I'm just wondering if it's improved at all since Dr. Deans left. I always thought he was a bumbling idiot, but I chalked my opinion up to the fact that I was a disillusioned teenager. I was just discussing it with my mother (both of my parents are still in the TMO) and she said the parents felt the same way about Dr. Deans. I digress. There have been some positive changes at MUM from what I've heard, and I hope those changed have carried over to MSAE.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Dec 19, 2009, at 10:57 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:00 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Oh ok, my bad. (sounds awful though -- like watching JaJa Binks in 3d :-) It was actually quite good. However if you are a conservative or a Republican, the jabs in it--several directly aimed at Bush Admin policies and some taken from Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld and Neocon way of thinking--will make you say things like Mike said. Well that shouldn't be a problem for me, seeing as how I was the first on FFL to support Obama. It was a very tantric movie in that it dealt well with inter-dimensional congress Several times angelic-like females have descended and made love to me in my sleep. Not joking. Its as real as it gets. The movie will not capture that. The feeling stays with you for days, weeks, and even for a lifetime you can recall it and it comes back. Very humbling feeling mixed with sweet love. Yes, but does she let you see the children? Children are for mortal humans like yourself for example. The rest of the universe does not indulge in that practice. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Levitator Fr. Paul of Moll (1824-1896),
Father Paul of Moll, Benedictine Wonder-Worker, TAN Publishers - republished from first ed. of 1910, by Edward van Speybrouck, p. 154.: Case #1: After that I knelt down at the railing while the Rev. Father prepared to give me Holy Communion. Suddently I perceived a perfume so delicious that I was quite distracted by it. I imagined that one of the lay-brothers must have brought a bouquet of flowers. I raised my eyes and to my great astonishment, I saw Father Moll standing before me in ecstasy, raised a considerable distance above the ground, and holding the sacred host. I cannot tell exactly how long he continued in this attitude, but I think it was at least five minutes. I would be impossible for me to discribe how attractive the countenance and attitude of the Rev. Father appeared, and the atmosphere was scented with the most delicious perfume of roses and other flowers, such as I had never before experienced. . Case #2:, page 156: A person from Ghent reports that sometimes she saw Father Paul riased above the ground. He would first distract her attention elsewhere, saying for example, Just look at those beautiful pigions in the garden!. But when she turned around, after having looked at the pigeons, she would see the Rev. Father raised a few feet above the ground absorbed in an ecstasy which lasted about ten minutes . Case #3, page 156: A young lady from Ghent paid a visit to Father Paul in 1889. In the course of the conversation he suddently stopped and exclaimed, For the love of Jesus! and is if swapt in ecstasy, he was raised about three feet above his chair and remained thus eight or ten minutes; then he slowly descended upon his chair and resumed the conversation. . another miracle... Case #4, page 157 Another time, being at the church of the Benedictines in Termonde, and seeing there how the Rev. Father Paul gave to the people a relic to kiss, I saw to my great astonishment, a shining aureole surrounding his head.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
I guess it was more predictable than I imagined, but writing a story line with a statement like Col.Quaritch's comment is typical for Hollywood where everyone trips over themselves trying to prove they are more *sensitive and compassionate* than anybody else. I guess it's a guilt trip for playing *pretend* for a living. From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 9:44:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative- Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
Vaj wrote: An interesting aside, at the beginning of the previews where you're told to put on your 3D glasses, the theatre I saw it at opened with a 3D advert. by the US Air Force. It was very clearly targeted at kids and teens. The tagline is It's not science fiction: it's what we do every day; it's the United States Air Force. The hidden tagline is 'if you like video games and Sci-fi, you'll just love killing people with us, you've never have to see the blood. Sign up now!' I'm finding all movies for the last several years have cheesy military advertisements in with the previews. This was the first 3D one. Depends on the theater. The one nearby doesn't show ads just movie trailers. The CineMark chain OTOH has way too many ads IMO including military ads.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
Don't get me wrong, I liked the film and would recommend it to anybody. I just found it *predictable* as if Cameron's favorite movies were Star Wars and Dances With Wolves. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 9:55:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar Vaj wrote: On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative- Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror? The usual business associate that likes to go see movies with me isn't big on this one either. Cameron is often long on hype and short on story. So far no one has said it will win a golden globe. I saw 2012 but Emmerich is humble compared to Cameron. I'll have to check to see if the schools are out all this week. If not I may go check it out otherwise I'll skip it until school is back in session if I still chose to go. BTW, 3D digital performances are as good the last day it is shown as the first because there is no film to scratch. That is unless some dumbshit kid hasn't thrown his drink at the screen and the theater hasn't cleaned it properly (or replaced it in some cases).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar
rightbasically a high-tech version of: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1638307584/tt0099348 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Don't get me wrong, I liked the film and would recommend it to anybody. I just found it *predictable* as if Cameron's favorite movies were Star Wars and Dances With Wolves. From: Bhairitu noozg...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 9:55:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar  Vaj wrote: On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative- Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror? The usual business associate that likes to go see movies with me isn't big on this one either. Cameron is often long on hype and short on story. So far no one has said it will win a golden globe. I saw 2012 but Emmerich is humble compared to Cameron. I'll have to check to see if the schools are out all this week. If not I may go check it out otherwise I'll skip it until school is back in session if I still chose to go. BTW, 3D digital performances are as good the last day it is shown as the first because there is no film to scratch. That is unless some dumbshit kid hasn't thrown his drink at the screen and the theater hasn't cleaned it properly (or replaced it in some cases).
[FairfieldLife] Sad News for Shemp
One of his favorite actresses had died at a way too early age: Brittany Murphy, the actress who got her start in the sleeper hit Clueless and rose to stardom in 8 Mile, died Sunday in Los Angeles. She was 32. More here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34500671/ns/entertainment-celebrities/
[FairfieldLife] Truth about Betty Boop
http://michaelpaulus.com/artwork/423836_Betty_Boop.html
[FairfieldLife] Japanese war tubas
For listening to the enemy http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/mystery-789234.jpg
[FairfieldLife] neat lecture by Bevan, Hagelin, and King Tony
neat lecture by 3 TMO persons on UTube. Check it out! . http://kristinag.com/2009/12/08/robotic-singing-heads-a-la-futurama/
[FairfieldLife] Oath taken by TMO teachers re; mantras
Published for the first time, the entire oath of allegiance made by TMO teachers. http://www.nobeliefs.com/images/HitlerOath.mpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad News for Shemp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: One of his favorite actresses had died at a way too early age: Brittany Murphy, the actress who got her start in the sleeper hit Clueless and rose to stardom in 8 Mile, died Sunday in Los Angeles. She was 32. More here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34500671/ns/entertainment-celebrities/ That truly is sad. She was a great actress. I only hope that they filmed Sin City 2 so she had a chance to reprise her role. And now for a prediction. The article says she died of a heart attack. Well, if you recall, that's the same thing that happened to Karen Carpenter, the singer, who died at age 33 back in the '80s. But her heart attack was from complications from anorexia and, if I remember correctly, because she gained weight back too quickly from her incredibly thin weight that it became a strain on her heart (or perhaps it was the up-and-down see-sawing of weight loss and gain that created the strain?). Anyway, I'll bet that's what happened to Murphy. If you remember her from her memorable roles in both Clueless and Freeway she was quite pudgy. And then all of a sudden she reappeared on the scene as thin as a rake. So I suspect a regiment of binging, throwing up, and massive weight gains resulting in anorexia led to complications that produced the heart attack. Just a wild guess from a non-medical professional. We shall see.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad News for Shemp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: snip Anyway, I'll bet that's what happened to Murphy. If you remember her from her memorable roles in both Clueless and Freeway she was quite pudgy. And then all of a sudden she reappeared on the scene as thin as a rake. So I suspect a regiment of binging, throwing up, and massive weight gains resulting in anorexia led to complications that produced the heart attack. Just a wild guess from a non-medical professional. We shall see. The one photo I saw of her must have been recent, because she was quite thin, bones sticking out. I know nothing about her, but anorexia was my first thought.
[FairfieldLife] Failure was the plan
Many of the posts and comments urging progressives to support the health care reform bill are based on a false premise. When you remove that false premise you realize that all the arguments for passing this horrible bill are bogus... The current argument among progressives is whether or not they should support a horrible bill... That false premise is the idea that Obama and the Democratic leadership actually support health care reform, but the Republicans and the Blue Dogs have joined forces with the lobbyists to obstruct them. Obama and the Democratic leadership DO NOT support health care reform... They aren't opposed on ideological grounds or because they want to see people suffer, it's just a simple conflict of interest. There is no financial incentive for them to reform our nations health care system, but obstructing and opposing reform is very lucrative. Failure was the plan http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/12/20/failure-was-the-plan/ Posted on December 20, 2009 by myiq2xu This health care reform clusterfuck was not an accident, it was planned... Their primary goal is returning this country to the golden age that existed before the New Deal. No unions, no government social spending, and no regulation of banks and business. Because this country is still officially a democratic republic we still have elections, but the corporatists have been successful at rigging the outcomes in their favor. With the exception of the Big Dawg in 1992 and 1996 I watched Republicans run rough-shod over Democrats for decades... I used to get frustrated watching the Democrats get outmaneuvered tactically and many times I shook my head in disgust as they made concession after concession. The worst part was when they surrendered without a fight... But when Nancy Pelosi took over as Speaker of the House one of the first things she did was declare that impeachment was off the table. I couldn't understand why the Democrats did nothing to stop the war or end the lawless behavior of the Bush administration... Then one day the light came on in my head. It was about the time that Alberto Gonzales was telling the Senate he couldn't remember a single thing about his job as Attorney General... There was ample evidence to justify a special prosecutor or the appointment of a special committee to investigate. But all the Democrats did was make a little noise and then drop it. That's when I realized they didn't want to win... The Democrats would say the right things, but when it came time to vote they let the Republicans win. They would make speeches scolding bankers and then turn around and deregulate Wall Street. They pretend to be on our side, but their loyalty goes to the big money special interests. The Democratic leadership has gone over to the enemy, and that includes Obama, Pelosi and Reid. Why would they do something like that?... follow the money. That is where the truth is. Last year what party and which candidate got the most money from Big Pharma and the health insurance companies? I'll give you a hint it was the same party and candidate that got all the Wall Street money. They gave him millions back in 2007 when he was a rookie Senator to start his campaign and they spent lots more buying him the nomination. You didn't really think all those career Democrat politicians in Washington suddenly got starry eyes and tingly legs just because they heard Obama make a speech did you? The party insiders helped Obama because Obama had rich and powerful friends that asked them to help Obama. The same thing goes for the media. Early on Obama was getting more media attention than he deserved, and it was mostly positive. After decades in Washington shilling for the special interests Senators Joe Biden and Chris Dodd could barely raise enough money to compete in Iowa. Even though they were both regulars on Sunday morning news shows their campaigns got little attention. Richardson, Vilsack, Kucinich and Gravel were even worse off. During 2007 the six of them combined raised about $25 million. Obama raised that much in the first quarter of the year. They took a light-weight politician with virtually no accomplishments and hired David Axelrod to turn him into Candidate Obama. He was nearly perfect for them, an unscrupulous man with no core beliefs except his own ambition. Best of all from their point of view, Obama doesn't have the strength of character to defy authority... People think that after he took office Obama made secret deal with Big Pharma and the health insurance companies. That's not true. There might have been some specific details to discuss but the basic outline of the deal was made when Obama sold them his soul in exchange for being President. Despite his promise to consider all the options Obama made sure single payer got buried. Max Baucus helped him in the Senate and the A-list progressive bloggers cooperated to keep the subject taboo on the front pages of their blogs. They
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, therewillbeli...@... no_re...@... wrote: All I know is that he was not the right person to be head of MSAE and almost everyone felt that way. There was a major disconnect between him and the student/parents. I have no doubt that he had good intentions, he simply wasn't tuned in and therefore came across as a bumbling idiot despite his intelligence in other areas. Om Well, it is doing better. Evidently he got kicked upstairs the disconnect got so bad. He got removed by sending him out to lecture and present about consciousness-based education/ MSAE. as a traveling consultant/expert to MSAE schools starting elsewhere. That allowed the school here to bring in real educators in his place to run the school. Was in near collapse but is going better now. But not well. The disconnect problem still exists in the few non-professional ideologue types leftover in the school. President office types, sort of like Bush administration appointees put in to jobs because of their party loyalty more than ability or real or real credentialed professionalism. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, therewillbelight@ no_reply@ wrote: Hey all--this is my first time posting after lots of lurking. I grew up in FF and attended MSAE from preschool through 12th grade. I haven't practiced TM or the Sidhis since I graduated and I have mixed feelings about the TMO. As most of you know, the school was far from ideal. I'm just wondering if it's improved at all since Dr. Deans left. I always thought he was a bumbling idiot, but I chalked my opinion up to the fact that I was a disillusioned teenager. I was just discussing it with my mother (both of my parents are still in the TMO) and she said the parents felt the same way about Dr. Deans. I digress. There have been some positive changes at MUM from what I've heard, and I hope those changed have carried over to MSAE. I haven't had contact with Deans in over 27 years but I knew him when he was a regular working stiff and I can tell you this: he was the most successful person in his field, was a go-getter, and there wasn't anything spaced out about the guy. This is not someone who had to escape to the confines of the Movement because he couldn't make it in the real world. He outshined everyone in the real world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's MSAE doing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, therewillbeli...@... no_re...@... wrote: As with everything, there was good and bad. I had some fabulous teachers, some horrible teachers, and lots of in-between teachers. The only really scandalous thing I remember was when a teacher was fired because he allegedly had sexual fantasies about his students. Overall I have more unpleasant memories than pleasant ones of my MSAE years. I was not a happy child in general and I have no way of knowing if I would have been happier at another school. I struggled a lot, academically and emotionally, during high school. The school did nothing to help and in many ways made it worse. It still makes me angry when MSAE is touted as being an ideal school and that every student can excel, because that is complete and utter BS. It's ideal for the few people who fit their mold. They were clueless about how to deal with anyone who didn't fit the mold. We were made to believe that there was something wrong with us. I remember one time during 12th grade SCI class when the tescher talking about how TM is a cure for everything, I burst into tears. If TM could cure everything, why did I have all these issues? What was I doing wrong. I didn't smoke, drink, do drugs, or have sex (unlike several other students). I did my program every day. Why wasn't I cured? I was tought that there was only one right way to do things and when I was younger I was very judgmental of any non-meditators. My parents, though still in the TMO, have become much more open-minded in recent years and I'm very grateful that they respect my beliefs. My wish for MSAE is that they stop the false advertising and learn to better accomodate people who don't fit their mold. This is where the TMO really screws up. It's a great technique but it isn't a magic pill, yet it is sold like that and, of course, it creates false expectations.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health Insurance may now be mandatory!
What surprised me was that I heard on ABC's This Week that Long Term Care insurance is part of the package and that it will be mandatory to get this type of insurance as well. Boy, I don't know how they are going to manage that! Even Canada doesn't have socialized long term care. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Of course they'll go up! You will have to pay the insurance companies to take care of people they didn't have to take care of before. We can all help pay the medical burden of alcholics, smokers, people not practicing safe sex, morbidly obese, etc. From: gullible fool ffl...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 6:38:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory!  It's already mandatory here in Massachusetts.  Insurance companies on this state have not been able to deny coverage to anyone for well over a decade...premiums went way up when that was legislated.     Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love.  - Amma --- On Sat, 12/19/09, BillyG wg...@yahoo. com wrote: From: BillyG wg...@yahoo. com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Health Insurance may now be mandatory! To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 9:11 PM Insurance companies would be barred immediately from denying coverage to children because of a pre-existing health condition. The prohibition on denial of coverage for adults would not take effect in the Senate bill until 2014, a disappointment for consumer advocates. Why not just wait till you get sick? Except for the penalties you'd get away with it, now you MUST have insurance!! I wonder how this is going to play out..? - - -- To subscribe, send a message to: FairfieldLife- subscribe@ yahoogroups. com Or go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/FairfieldL ife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] How the healthcare bill may INCREASE the number of uninsured.
How Obamacare Will Hurt Young People by Dick Morris [http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/2971de6b63f404f0c8e20c809753324b?s=28d=\ http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb652353\ 6%3Fs%3D28r=G] Posted by Dick Morris http://frontpagemag.com/author/dick-morris/ on Dec 21st, 2009 and filed under FrontPage http://frontpagemag.com/category/front-page/ . You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/12/21/how-obamacare-will-hurt-young-people\ -by-dick-morris/feed/ . You can leave a response or trackback to this entry [Print This Post] http://frontpagemag.com/2009/12/21/how-obamacare-will-hurt-young-people\ -by-dick-morris/print/ Print This Post http://frontpagemag.com/2009/12/21/how-obamacare-will-hurt-young-people\ -by-dick-morris/print/ [Teenage Problems, Social Issues and Bullying] A detailed analysis of the Obama health care program now before the Senate indicates that it will force big premium increases for all families http://frontpagemag.com/wp-admin/# , especially for those under 30 years of age. The study http://frontpagemag.com/wp-admin/# , by the consulting firm of Oliver Wyman, concludes that premiums for individuals will rise by $1,576 and $3,341 for families by under the bill. Young people will be hit the hardest. The study predicted that premiums for new health insurance policies purchased by the youngest third of the population would rise by 35 percent under the bill. These increases will stem from the bill's provisions that bar http://frontpagemag.com/wp-admin/# insurance companies from raising rates on sick people and from excluding people based on pre-existing conditions. Both of these mandates will mean higher costs for the younger and healthier population. This bill is, in effect, a tax on the young. Nor will subsidies do much to mitigate the impact. To get a subsidy under the bill, you have to earn less than about $80,000 a year (combined household income) and have spent between 2 percent and 10 percent of your income on premiums http://frontpagemag.com/wp-admin/# . So a couple making a combined income of $40,000 would have to pay about 5 percent of their income, $2,000, before they could get subsidies. Those making $60,000 would have to pay about 8 percent of their income $4,800 before they could get a subsidy. And those making $80,000 would have to chip in 10 percent of their income $8,000 before they would get a subsidy. These are hefty bills for young families to bear. So most won't do it. The fine for failing to have health insurance [http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif] http://frontpagemag.com/wp-admin/# is only $750. So most young people will just pay the fine and be done with it. When they get sick, they'll get covered and the insurance company can't charge them a higher premium than it would have charged when they were healthy. And it can't turn them away. So this bill is not a measure for full national health insurance coverage. At best, it's a bill that will insure you when you are sick and make the rest of us pay the bill. And, in the meantime, you'll have to chip in $750 a year for the privilege. Employers, too, will find it much cheaper to pay the $750 per employee than to buy insurance. Ironically, there is a good chance that this bill will actually increase the number of uninsured. Its ban on letting insurers raise rates on sick people will force premiums so high that many people will drop their insurance. After all, when they get sick, they can and will easily get their insurance back.
