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Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-21 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


On 11/21/2015 06:53 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

So how many refugees have moved in down the street from you?

None, so far, and I highly doubt they will be moving down the street 
as I live in the relative boonies.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/up-to-900-syrian-refugees-a-day-to-land-in-toronto-montreal-document-1.263




Ah, too bad.   Sounds like  your neighborhood could use some spicing up. 
:-D


We're very multicultural here.  I have probably "economic refugees" from 
China who moved in across the street.  Gave them directions one day on 
how to get to the bus.  Probably bought the house cash too. A family 
from Iraq runs a "junk" store downtown.  I drop in and chat with the 
owner from time to time. I helped understand how to put in his security 
camera system.  Iranians moved to the Bay Area to flee religious 
persecution (a woman who cut my hair back in the early 90s was from 
there).  And of course we get tons of Mexicans but I was just reading 
not so much anymore because it was getting more and more expensive to 
slip across the border and the economy may be improving in Mexico.


On 11/20/2015 07:06 AM, awoelflebater@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:




http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/11/20/456680690/if-americans-move-to-canada-to-avoid-refugees-they-may-get-a-surprise

[FairfieldLife] Only in Britain

2015-11-21 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/patricksmith/heres-a-map-of-all-the-rude-place-names-in-the-uk#.xd5WkbX9EM
 
http://www.buzzfeed.com/patricksmith/heres-a-map-of-all-the-rude-place-names-in-the-uk#.xd5WkbX9EM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-21 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 11/21/2015 06:36 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

The article says the Obama administration has committed to taking
10,000 refugees *this year*. It doesn't say anything about the hundred
or so thousand he really intends to bring over the longer haul. I've
been out of the loop for a few days but the last I heard is that 36
states are currently pleading not to take any, at least at this point.
The FBI is saying it is nearly impossible to thoroughly vet these
immigrants. Records that they would need to do so, are just not
available to them. Anyone can claim anything at this point and get
into a host country. Hayam Duhkam Anagatam.(avoid the suffering before
it comes). Yes, there will be some genuinely good people and there
will be some, and probably fewer, genuinely evil and disgusting people
to come. You don't threaten the security of a nation to show
compassion for other less fortunate people.

Says who? Everything comes with a price, with some sort of effect -
there are no free lunches. If taking in others who are needing refuge
means you put something at risk then that is what makes it an action
worth a little respect. Giving a beggar $100 because you are a multi
millionaire means nothing. Giving a beggar $100 when you are barely
surviving financially means something. What gives anyone the right to
close and lock the doors to an entire country, after all ! (and here
we come back to our ongoing discussion) every single white mo-fo in
the US was an immigrant and most, back in the days of the religious
persecutions in England (read Puritans), made their way to find
freedom from this persecution all the way to the Eastern shores of
what would later become Virginia.

Or looking to have their own plot of land. I don't think my Welsh
ancestors were fleeing persecution but probably more like young folks
who didn't want to compete with siblings over what land the parents had
to give them.

So, for you, or anybody else, to decide that once they are safely
inside the metaphorical door and there are ten more running to join
you in the house that you are going to quickly close the door and turn
the key is the height of hypocrisy. "Home of the brave and land of the
free"? Not on those terms.

*From:* "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* F! airfieldl...@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2015 11:49 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

So how many refugees have moved in down the street from you?

On 11/20/2015 07:06 AM, awoelflebater@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/11/20/456680690/if-americans-move-to-canada-to-avoid-refugees-they-may-get-a-surprise

Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-21 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Mike, check your facts. You must be reading those "political rags that contain
lies to create fear in fear-based individuals" again. Politico here addresses
your inaccurate assumptions and statements below.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/19/politifact-sheet-5-questions-about-syrian-refugees/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/19/politifact-sheet-5-que...

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

The article says the Obama administration has committed to taking 10,000
refugees *this year*. It doesn't say anything about the hundred or so thousand
he really intends to bring over the longer haul. I've been out of the loop for
a few days but the last I heard is that 36 states are currently pleading not to
take any, at least at this point. The FBI is saying it is nearly impossible to
thoroughly vet these immigrants. Records that they would need to do so, are
just not available to them. Anyone can claim anything at this point and get
into a host country. Hayam Duhkam Anagatam.(avoid the suffering before it
comes). Yes, there will be some genuinely good people and there will be some,
and probably fewer, genuinely evil and disgusting people to come. You don't
threaten the security of a nation to show compassion for other less fortunate
people.

From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

So how many refugees have moved in down the street from you?

On 11/20/2015 07:06 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/11/20/456680690/if-americans-move-to-canada-to-avoid-refugees-they-may-get-a-surprise

[FairfieldLife] descended from a refugee

2015-11-21 Thread srijau

he was the victim of one sect attacking another... he arrived as a refugee in 
what is now Manhattan about 1620

Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-21 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Correction: "Politifact"

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Mike, check your facts. You must be reading those "political rags that
contain lies to create fear in fear-based individuals" again. Politico here
addresses your inaccurate assumptions and statements below.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/19/politifact-sheet-5-questions-about-syrian-refugees/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/19/politifact-sheet-5-que...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/19/politifact-sheet-5-questions-about-syrian-refugees/
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

The article says the Obama administration has committed to taking 10,000
refugees *this year*. It doesn't say anything about the hundred or so thousand
he really intends to bring over the longer haul. I've been out of the loop for
a few days but the last I heard is that 36 states are currently pleading not to
take any, at least at this point. The FBI is saying it is nearly impossible to
thoroughly vet these immigrants. Records that they would need to do so, are
just not available to them. Anyone can claim anything at this point and get
into a host country. Hayam Duhkam Anagatam.(avoid the suffering before it
comes). Yes, there will be some genuinely good people and there will be some,
and probably fewer, genuinely evil and disgusting people to come. You don't
threaten the security of a nation to show compassion for other less fortunate
people.

From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

So how many refugees have moved in down the street from you?

On 11/20/2015 07:06 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/11/20/456680690/if-americans-move-to-canada-to-avoid-refugees-they-may-get-a-surprise

Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-21 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So how many refugees have moved in down the street from you?
 

 None, so far, and I highly doubt they will be moving down the street as I live 
in the relative boonies. 
 
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/up-to-900-syrian-refugees-a-day-to-land-in-toronto-montreal-document-1.263
 
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/up-to-900-syrian-refugees-a-day-to-land-in-toronto-montreal-document-1.263

 
 
 On 11/20/2015 07:06 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/11/20/456680690/if-americans-move-to-canada-to-avoid-refugees-they-may-get-a-surprise
 
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/11/20/456680690/if-americans-move-to-canada-to-avoid-refugees-they-may-get-a-surprise

Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-21 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

The article says the Obama administration has committed to taking 10,000
refugees *this year*. It doesn't say anything about the hundred or so thousand
he really intends to bring over the longer haul. I've been out of the loop for
a few days but the last I heard is that 36 states are currently pleading not to
take any, at least at this point. The FBI is saying it is nearly impossible to
thoroughly vet these immigrants. Records that they would need to do so, are
just not available to them. Anyone can claim anything at this point and get
into a host country. Hayam Duhkam Anagatam.(avoid the suffering before it
comes). Yes, there will be some genuinely good people and there will be some,
and probably fewer, genuinely evil and disgusting people to come. You don't
threaten the security of a nation to show compassion for other less fortunate
people.

Says who? Everything comes with a price, with some sort of effect - there are
no free lunches. If taking in others who are needing refuge means you put
something at risk then that is what makes it an action worth a little respect.
Giving a beggar $100 because you are a multi millionaire means nothing. Giving
a beggar $100 when you are barely surviving financially means something. What
gives anyone the right to close and lock the doors to an entire country, after
all (and here we come back to our ongoing discussion) every single white mo-fo
in the US was an immigrant and most, back in the days of the religious
persecutions in England (read Puritans), made their way to find freedom from
this persecution all the way to the Eastern shores of what would later become
Virginia.

So, for you, or anybody else, to decide that once they are safely inside the
metaphorical door and there are ten more running to join you in the house that
you are going to quickly close the door and turn the key is the height of
hypocrisy. "Home of the brave and land of the free"? Not on those terms.

From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

So how many refugees have moved in down the street from you?

On 11/20/2015 07:06 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/11/20/456680690/if-americans-move-to-canada-to-avoid-refugees-they-may-get-a-surprise

[FairfieldLife] Putin Seeks Global Fight Against Terrorism

2015-11-21 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

His call to arms should ring true to all people of the earth.  It's only a 
matter of time that Al Baghdadi and his minions will be taken out to eliminate 
the worldwide web of criminals in IS and Al Qaeda.  Zawahiri, the present 
leader of Al Qaeda, should be arrested, dead or alive, as well.
 

 IMO, the quickest way to stop these terrorists is to cut off the flow of money 
that they're getting from the organization.  After all of these years in 
fighting these terrorists, it's a puzzle why the US intelligence agencies could 
not figure this out.  Is there a conspiracy to keep the price of oil at the 
present level?  Are American companies buying oil from the terrorists in Syria?
 

 Putin says seeks global anti-terrorism fight after 19 killed in Mali attack 
http://news.yahoo.com/islamist-militants-kill-19-attack-hotel-malis-capital-005851964--finance.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/islamist-militants-kill-19-attack-hotel-malis-capital-005851964--finance.html
 
 
 Putin says seeks global anti-terrorism fight after 19 ki... 
http://news.yahoo.com/islamist-militants-kill-19-attack-hotel-malis-capital-005851964--finance.html
 By Tiemoko Diallo and Adama Diarra BAMAKO (Reuters) - Russian President 
Vladimir Putin said on Saturday he wanted global cooperation to combat te...
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State is a "satanic terrorist group": Vatican Cardinal

2015-11-21 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Now, go brush your teeth, get into your pajamas and I'll be in to tuck you in, 
you little cutie.

But Mom. 
If I wake up with in the night with a boner will God punish me? 
Even if He/She hates my stinkin'guts will I be forgiven?
Is is still all about Robin Woodsworth Carlsen?

What will ever happen to me, Mommy?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State is a "satanic terrorist group": Vatican Cardinal

2015-11-21 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Now, go brush your teeth, get into your pajamas and I'll be in to tuck you in, 
you little cutie.

But Mom. 
If I wake up with in the night with a boner will God punish me? 
Even if He/She hates my stinkin'guts will I be forgiven?
Is is still all about Robin Woodsworth Carlsen?

What will ever happen to me, Mommy? 
 

 It's already happening, Emptypants.

[FairfieldLife] Phase Transition and Franco Spain

2015-11-21 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

In the late 60's and the earlier half of the 1970's there were a lot of hours 
collectively spent in transcendent meditation with Maharishi, in Spain.  
 

 

 
 There's a good summary article about Franco Spain on the BBC page.  It is a 
good reminder. 
 

 I was a teenager over on a TM teacher training course with Maharishi at La 
Antilla Spain in 1973 with quite a lot of other people and got to see something 
of Franco Spain then. On a bus on the way down to La Antilla from the airport, 
pulled over to a motorway shoulder for the the Franco 'motorcade' in Seville to 
pass by.  I still have vivid memory of the Guardia Civil [Seville] soldiers 
around even in a little fishing village [La Antilla] dressed in dark olive 
uniform and distinctive little hat with leather holster belts and small 
sub-machine gun slung over their shoulder, at the bar having a drink and dinner 
in the taverns that opened their doors to meditators after meetings with 
Maharishi. In the evenings the taverns served warmed milk to the meditators in 
glasses lined up down the bar and warmed milk poured from big kettles as the 
meditators poured through the streets after meetings. The soldier also there in 
the background. That guy with his machine gun was a lot different than seeing 
Swiss young men get on and off trains in Switzerland with some of the biggest 
of manifolded machine guns over their shoulders. 
 
 
 
 “..After the defeat of the coup in 1981, the attitudes of the armed forces 
were changed by Spain's entry into Nato in 1982, which shifted their focus 
outwards from their previous obsession with the internal enemy.
 Scarred by the horrors of the civil war and the post-war repression, during 
the transition to democracy Spaniards rejected both political violence and 
Franco's idea that, by right of conquest, one half of the country could rule 
over the other.
 However, what was impossible in a democracy was a counter-brainwashing.”
 
 
 
 Spain feels Franco's legacy 40 years after his death - BBC News 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34844939

 
 
 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34844939 
 
 Spain feels Franco's legacy 40 years after his death... 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34844939 Forty years after is death, the 
legacy of Spain's Gen Francisco Franco still bedevils politics, writes Prof 
Paul Preston.
 
 
 
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 General Franco, known as El Caudillo (Leader), died on 20 November 1975
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-21 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

To combat the fear that letting in refugees is tantamount to letting in active
terrorists, here is the fact:

Of the Syrian refugees admitted so far, half are children, according to
administration officials http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/11/249613.htm.
The group is about 50/50 men and women, and about 2 percent are single men of
combat age.

To correct the error that Obama plans to let in "a hundred thousand", here is
the reality:

A few politicians
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/18/repeat-after-me-obama-is-not-admitting-10-20-or-25-syrian-refugees/
and pundits
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/oct/26/sean-hannity/25-syrian-refugees-us-fact-check-trump-hannity/
have claimed that the administration wants to bring in as many as 250,000
Syrian refugees. That number has no basis in fact.
Some reports seems to confuse the number of Syrian refugees the United States
will accept with the number of worldwide refugees the United States will
accept. Secretary of State John Kerry has said the United States will accept up
to 85,000 refugees in fiscal year 2016 — up from 70,000 this year — and around
100,000 in fiscal year 2017. Again, this is the total number of refugees from
all over the world.
To contrast the tone of what you mean by:

"The FBI is saying it is nearly impossible to thoroughly vet these
immigrants. Records that they would need to do so, are just not available to
them. Anyone can claim anything at this point and get into a host country."

The reality is that the process is quite laborious and thorough (read article
again for details on what it involves) and takes 1 to 2 years. Of course, it
isn't absolute all the time—that doesn't translate to "anyone can claim
anything.and get in". You seem to be pretty frightened to me;
maybe some international travel would do you good.

The head of the National Counterterrorism Center told
http://www.c-span.org/video/?328602-1/hearing-threats-facing-us Congress in
October that the intelligence in Syria is "not as rich as we would like it to
be," while FBI Director James Comey told Congress there are "gaps" in data
availability.
Challenges and gaps, however, don’t translate into "no ability
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/19/ben-carson/ben-carson-there-currently-no-ability-vet-syrian-r/;
to vet at all.
"No system is foolproof. If we really wanted a foolproof system, we would shut
down immigration entirely," said David Martin, a University of Virginia
professor who’s previously held posts at DHS and the State Department. "The
alarm is way overblown."
According to the State Department, Syrians tend to have more identity
documents than other refugee groups around the world, and the reasons they give
for missing documents (a bomb dropping on their house) can be verified.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Emily, I don't think the Politico article refutes anything that I said below,
in fact confirms what I said. Obama wants to bring in more Refugees this year,
approximately 10,000 and many more over the next few years, that number
varies.The FBI says that they can not thoroughly vet them. The problem is that
many public records about the refugees just aren't available due to the civil
war.
From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

Mike, check your facts. You must be reading those "political rags that
contain lies to create fear in fear-based individuals" again. Politico here
addresses your inaccurate assumptions and statements below.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/19/politifact-sheet-5-questions-about-syrian-refugees/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/19/politifact-sheet-5-que...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/19/politifact-sheet-5-questions-about-syrian-refugees/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Putin Seeks Global Fight Against Terrorism

2015-11-21 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 (snip)
 

 IMO, the quickest way to stop these terrorists is to cut off the flow of money 
that they're getting from the organization.  After all of these years in 
fighting these terrorists, it's a puzzle why the US intelligence agencies could 
not figure this out.  Is there a conspiracy to keep the price of oil at the 
present level?  Are American companies buying oil from the terrorists in Syria?

 

 Nonsense. Everybody involved knows how important it is to cut off ISIS's money 
supply, and there are a number of efforts working toward this goal. But it's 
very difficult and so far the efforts have been only partially successful.
 

 Why Is Money Still Flowing to ISIS? 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/opinion/sunday/why-is-money-still-flowing-to-isis.html

 
 
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/opinion/sunday/why-is-money-still-flowing-to-isis.html
 
 
 Why Is Money Still Flowing to ISIS? 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/opinion/sunday/why-is-money-still-flowing-to-isis.html
 Videos of Islamic State fighters with brand-name S.U.V.s make it clear that 
more effective efforts are needed to starve the Islamic State of revenue.
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Putin Seeks Global Fight Against Terrorism

2015-11-21 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Another article on the same topic:

How Is ISIS Still Making Money?
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/11/how-is-isis-still-making-money/416745/

How Is ISIS Still Making Money?
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/11/how-is-isis-still-making-money/416745/
Why it’s so difficult to cut off the group’s finances

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

(snip)

IMO, the quickest way to stop these terrorists is to cut off the flow of money
that they're getting from the organization. After all of these years in
fighting these terrorists, it's a puzzle why the US intelligence agencies could
not figure this out. Is there a conspiracy to keep the price of oil at the
present level? Are American companies buying oil from the terrorists in Syria?

Nonsense. Everybody involved knows how important it is to cut off ISIS's money
supply, and there are a number of efforts working toward this goal. But it's
very difficult and so far the efforts have been only partially successful.

Why Is Money Still Flowing to ISIS?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/opinion/sunday/why-is-money-still-flowing-to-isis.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/opinion/sunday/why-is-money-still-flowing-to-isis.html

Why Is Money Still Flowing to ISIS?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/opinion/sunday/why-is-money-still-flowing-to-isis.html
Videos of Islamic State fighters with brand-name S.U.V.s make it clear that
more effective efforts are needed to starve the Islamic State of revenue.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Putin Seeks Global Fight Against Terrorism

2015-11-21 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


Even better article:
https://www.rt.com/news/322996-islamic-state-journalist-todenhofer/

You can see it's a complicated problem and the US doesn't want to offend 
it's oil buddies in the Middle East but at some point it will need to.  
But destabilizing the Middle East has been a long term goal of US 
administrations.  ISIS makes a good bogeyman to keep the US military 
industrial complex very profitable.  It's all about the money.


On 11/21/2015 11:20 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

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IMO, the quickest way to stop these terrorists is to cut off the flow 
of money that they're getting from the organization.  After all of 
these years in fighting these terrorists, it's a puzzle why the US 
intelligence agencies could not figure this out.  Is there a 
conspiracy to keep the price of oil at the present level?  Are 
American companies buying oil from the terrorists in Syria?



Nonsense. Everybody involved knows how important it is to cut off 
ISIS's money supply, and there are a number of efforts working toward 
this goal. But it's very difficult and so far the efforts have been 
only partially successful.



Why Is Money Still Flowing to ISIS? 






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Why Is Money Still Flowing to ISIS? 
 

Videos of Islamic State fighters with brand-name S.U.V.s make it clear 
that more effective efforts are needed to starve the Islamic State of 
revenue.


View on www.nytimes.com 
 



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2015-11-21 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Judy, 

 According to this article, the oil from ISIS are sold to the governments of 
Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Iran at a discount by as much as 75 percent of market 
price.  However,  I wouldn't be surprised if some European countries are buying 
oil from ISIS too.  From a personal standpoint, this is the reason why fuel has 
been very cheap at the local gas pumps.
 

 The US government probably knows this is happening, and, at the present time, 
has not bombed the oil rigs and plants in Syria for fear that the local 
population would suffer from lack of oil supply.
 

 With all of the world powers against the atrocities committed by ISIS, the 
organization's days are numbered. In a separate article yesterday, John Kerry 
said that the US can neutralize ISIS quicker than it did against Al Qaeda.  It 
sounds like a commando raid to take out Al Baghdadi is being planned.  If the 
US doesn't do it, the Russians will do the job in equal measure.
 

 Who Buys Islamic State’s Illegal Oil? 
http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2014/10/01/who-buys-islamic-states-illegal-oil/
 
 
 
http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2014/10/01/who-buys-islamic-states-illegal-oil/
 
 
 Who Buys Islamic State’s Illegal Oil? 
http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2014/10/01/who-buys-islamic-states-illegal-oil/
 By John Lee. A report by Chris Dalby of Oilprice.com finds that the 11 oil 
fields that IS controls in Iraq and Syria have made it a largely independent 
financial...
 
 
 
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http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2014/10/01/who-buys-islamic-states-illegal-oil/
 
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2015-11-21 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Emily, I don't think the Politico article refutes anything that I said below, 
in fact confirms what I said. Obama wants to bring in more Refugees this year, 
approximately 10,000 and many more over the next few years, that number 
varies.The FBI says that they can not thoroughly vet them. The problem is that  
many  public records about the refugees just aren't available due to the civil 
war.
 From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:38 AM
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    Mike, check your facts.  You must be reading those "political rags that 
contain lies to create fear in fear-based individuals" again.  Politico here 
addresses your inaccurate assumptions and statements below.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/19/politifact-sheet-5-questions-about-syrian-refugees/

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The article says the Obama administration has committed to taking 10,000 
refugees *this year*. It doesn't say anything about the hundred or so thousand 
he really intends to bring over the longer haul. I've been out of the loop for 
a few days but the last I heard is that 36 states are currently pleading not to 
take any, at least at this point. The FBI is saying it is nearly impossible to 
thoroughly  vet these immigrants. Records that they would need to do so, are 
just not available to them. Anyone can claim anything at this point and get 
into a host country. Hayam Duhkam Anagatam.(avoid the suffering before it 
comes). Yes, there will be some genuinely good people and there will be some, 
and probably fewer, genuinely evil and disgusting people to come. You don't 
threaten the security of a nation to show compassion for other less fortunate 
people.

  From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

 So how many refugees have moved in downthe street from you?

On 11/20/2015 07:06 AM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]wrote:

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/11/20/456680690/if-americans-move-to-canada-to-avoid-refugees-they-may-get-a-surprise

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2015-11-21 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

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2015-11-21 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

On 11/21/2015 06:53 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

So how many refugees have moved in down the street from you?

None, so far, and I highly doubt they will be moving down the street as I live
in the relative boonies.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/up-to-900-syrian-refugees-a-day-to-land-in-toronto-montreal-document-1.263http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/up-to-900-syrian-refugees-a-day-to-land-in-toronto-montreal-document-1.263

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/up-to-900-syrian-refugees-a-day-to-land-in-toronto-montreal-document-1.263

Ah, too bad. Sounds like your neighborhood could use some spicing up. :-D

You are correct about that. We have a lot of white bread residents, law abiding
Canadians taking dogs for walks and attending the local farmer's markets.
That's about it but I'll let you know when it gets a bit spicier around here.
I'm the spiciest one by far.

We're very multicultural here. I have probably "economic refugees" from China
who moved in across the street. Gave them directions one day on how to get to
the bus. Probably bought the house cash too. A family from Iraq runs a
"junk" store downtown. I drop in and chat with the owner from time to time. I
helped understand how to put in his security camera system. Iranians moved to
the Bay Area to flee religious persecution (a woman who cut my hair back in the
early 90s was from there). And of course we get tons of Mexicans but I was
just reading not so much anymore because it was getting more and more expensive
to slip across the border and the economy may be improving in Mexico.

On 11/20/2015 07:06 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
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