Re: Fedora Mascot
wonderer wrote: Hy there, A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is against having one. Not even a cuddly-wuddly Fedora ferret, with a first name starting with an F? Nicu could draw him in various costumes, little tshirts, or mittens in the winter. Max, I did not know what drugs you are consuming right now, but ... could you send me some boxes of them ;-) Anyway, I also did not think we need such thing. Ok, it would be nice to see max, paul, etc. in some cute animal costumes ... on the other hand, NO! Please pull out this stupid crazy thoughts out of my head. Give me some more chocolate-beer to forget these... :) I think the Linux community has enough pet-based Distros. Let us be a bit more innovative and stay serious... or just try :) Faithfully submitted, Max Spevack Ex-FPL and Level 50 Troll Ok, I will think about some PR lines about THAT ... mit freundlichen Gr��en / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonde...@fedoraproject.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I stand by my claim that Max and Paul in cheerleader outfits would be ideal for a mascot... wait, nevermind, I forgot they are just the fedora art team's biggest fans. -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
� wrote: Hi, - Original Message From: Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com We should decide very soon which theme become default one. Current Leonidas landscape still needs a lot of work - it looks very nice on small screens (EEE) but on my workstation it lacks details and looks blurry. This Lion one is maybe too complicated but with some tweaking it could be really wonderful theme. I have to agree with this. Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. What do folks think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I realize that I haven't committed much help this round and whatnot, so I really have no issue for which way we go. If we have people committed and willing to step up and make Samuele's stuff work and we can meet all the original deadlines, then I'm going to say go for it. I don't mean any disrespect towards Samuele, but I hope that with future releases, we can start getting his input earlier on in the process as he tends to come up with some very good stuff and if we could get that in the concept stages, I see nothing but very solid releases in the future with time for extra polish. -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper?
� wrote: Hey Nicu! - Original Message From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro I am not that happy on the columns positioning and with them going all the screen, from top to bottom. Do you have any ideas on how we can integrate Greek columns into it? Maybe have some temple in the hills across the water? (PS I think Brian's latest blue starfield for the night version would work well for this) I don't think this is going to work: if we put a dark sky and just change the colors for the ground, I expect the result will be unnatural, looking like a fake. Did you see the mockup Paolo did? I think the coloring was right, definitely a lot of polish needed, but... I don't know. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I think it'd be cool, at the details stage, if we could perhaps have some light cast in between some of the columns, and perhaps change the angle as time goes by. -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi all I work on the Acient Greek theme for this Fedora's release I think is the best one. Mo I'd like your idea to create a collage from different landscape or other image. For this theme I try to work on the Spartan Leonidas idea, I work on the Acient Helm so we don't have discussion on violence or other not connected idea. I started looking some inspiration photos on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghost_of_kuji/2763629314/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/protectorrr/2714125326/ then I draw my own. Let me suggest to you guys my idea and let me know your guess and your suggestions. Maybe someone could help me to find some more dettailed photos of the helm? For F11 we're trying to work together on the same concept, we aren't doing competing ideas anymore. Our deadline for a decision on the visual concept (basically, how will we visually depict 'Leonidas') is February 1. Do you think there is a way we can integrate the idea of your helmet with a landscape of Greek architecture for the wallpaper, and maybe we could integrate the helmet in other artwork too? Do you have any ideas on what a landscape with the helmet integrated into it might look like? I do think based on the wallpaper poll results that we should try for a landscape for the wallpaper, but that doesn't mean we can't have a helmet placed in it or somehow work the idea of a helmet in it? I like the idea of having a helmet somewhere because Leonidas was from Sparta and Sparta was very militaristic, but at the same time a helmet is for protection so it's not too violent a symbol as you said. What do you think? Do you have ideas on how we can work together? ~m How about four spears stuck in the ground, which are forming a totem like shape, with the helmet supported by or on top of the spear points? It could symbolize the 4 F's that make the basic support structure of Fedora, as well as be themed by the codename. -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
F10 Default Theme clarification
In case my announcement was not the clearest in wording, Solar is in fact the winning design, and will be getting pushed further in the polish. See the numbers and results for the vote at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora 10's official Default theme
On an operating system, far far away,, we were deep. We were busy slaving away in front of our lovely Fedora 9-run computer, hacking away at graphics for our theme proposals. Three rounds in, and we were down to four options. When it came down to it, we decided that we were no longer content with staying on this planet. The voices in our heads had spoken, and we decided to blast off into space and go Solar. We weren't feeling completely InvinXble. However, being the FOSS advocates we are, and with our support of Fedora, we were not afraid of of the unknown frontier. The Gears of time shown bright with a healthy Neon glow, but neither of these had very much effect on the course of destiny. Come join us as we sail into the Solar future for Fedora 10 later this year. Official winning order: Solar InvinXble Gears Neon ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Neon update.
Martin Sourada wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 19:17 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: I've been recently working on the graphics and trying to gather up all of the needed items. So far, I have all that I have available posted on the official proposal page[1]. I know that I have SysLinux Splash + GRUB left to do. Anything else? I'd really like to see these get even more refined and detailed, if Neon gets selected. If not selected, then kudos to the theme that did work. I'm already happy with Neon and that I pushed it this far. I feel proud about myself. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Neon Hi Michael, I noticed you updated the wallpapers and the daylight changes. Do you want me to update the wallpaper package now, or should I wait for 16:10 and 4:3 size variants? Thanks, Martin I'll push those to my fedorapeople pages and send you the link. I didn't want to bog down the wiki page with a lot of huge images. -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Round 2: Neon submission
Here is a directory link[1] to my four graphics for Neon. Despite what will be some protest, I felt that the stronger of the two was my version with tentacle looking colored lines in it, and that's the one I focused on. Feedback and comments encouraged. [1] http://michaelbox.net/neon/ -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Neon
Here's the happiest attempt that I've made to make a theme for Neon. The idea is just a view of a street, utilizing primarily just the lower right corner and along the right side. I would love to have ideas for more details that could be added, as this still feels primitive, but I think there's a lot of potential. I also think it's a radical idea to not be using about half the area available. So far, I just have a working version for the wallpaper. Files available below: http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/neon/Neonstreet.png http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/neon/Neonstreet.svg -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
[21:34] tw2113 lightbulb! [21:35] tw2113 if we're going for the feel of inside some machine for the gears proposal [21:35] tw2113 we should have a rather direct light source that changes color as the day goes by [21:36] tw2113 not everything in the area would get to change color, just the parts in the way of the light source Ian Weller wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 05:37:05PM -0400, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy_ wrote: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk_screened.png Excellent, although I am *not* a fan of the gold gears. All blue for the desktop at least, maybe with different gradients depending on the time of day, but it should all be smooth. Maybe they could be made more sparse for the desktop but dense for the banners/splashes for the rest of the artwork set? Definitely. I don't want to come off as not doing anything with this theme, and just saying what I think without any contribution back. As I did last release, I can probably help out in rendering all the different wallpaper sizes from the scratch SVGs -- maybe we can do it early enough where we can produce a standard Makefile of some sort and build it on Koji, have the SVGs in the SRPM. (I'm getting technical now.) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper Extras
How about uploading scaled down images to the wiki to show there, and uploading the full sized images to fedorapeople and providing a direct link to those on the wiki page with the gallery? May be a bit of extra work, but it'd save strain on the wiki. Martin Sourada wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:11 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: For images stored in the wiki the thumbnails are created on the server. Then I think uploading it to wiki directly is better way. I was thinking about file sizes... the JPEGs straight from my camera are about 4.5-5MB, resized at 1920x1200, they will get under 1.5MB, but this is still quite large (and the file size will be a problem for the package too). That's a drawback of providing quality images we need to pay if we decide to provide them. There are already packages in repos that have size around 200MB and the extras backgrounds would fall into that kind of packages too. Therefore I was thinking about splitting the package into sub-packages as per the (sub-)categories listed on the wiki + plus providing meta-packages to e.g. install all sub-categories of the specified category, or everything. That would be nicer to our users. Maybe even make separate packages for wide-screen wallpapers as people with 16:10 displays usually do not need 4:3 wallpapers and vice-versa. Another itchy thing is update of such packages. In environments with yum-presto the issue would not be big, but for standard fedora environment as it is now it means a lot of d/l with every update. That would mean we'd need to keep the updates low and/or rather than making sub-packages for categories, make the fully separate packages (but keep the sub-categories-subpackages). Btw. it is good thing to have upstream in more convenient place than wiki/rpm, therefore making a fedorahosted.org project for that might be a good idea. What do you think? Any ideas/comments on that matter? Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Does blue make you blue?
I recall at one of the last meetings, or perhaps on the mailing list, it was discussed how the Fedora logo has become one in its own and certainly automatically associated these days with the Fedora Project. That said, the dominant color within that logo is blue, so I think blue is automatically implied with fedora through association. Paul W. Frields wrote: Does the Artwork team think, overall, that using a blue palette for our desktop theme (background) helps Fedora with its identity and branding? Do you want to continue that for Fedora 10? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fwd: Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept!]
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: RazGriz wrote: Fedora art-studio : I made an wall paper to start my engines, can i show it 4 you? If yes, where i can do this? As we don't have for the moment a gallery, the best way is to post your wallpaper anywhere on the web (your fedorapeople account is OK, but also Flickr, deviantArt, etc. are valid choices) Sure, fedora-art-list@redhat.com is a good place. I don't know if we are going to be theming the art studio any differently than main Fedora at this point though. The biggest concern right now is to get an ISO built. I also think building a first version of the ISO should be the first priority. We can add packages later, we can talk about themes later. Something I talked to Mo about last night, and will be attempting in the near future. I am having some growing interest in really stepping up for this spin and getting it going. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Group photo
I'll keep this e-mail in my queue. I could use that one, but i think it would be nice to get a current one as well. Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 14:03 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: If you really prefer, you can opt out, but I think it'd be fun for everyone, as well as put names to faces. The only photo I have up webwise ia an ancient one circa mid 80's. http://www.frankly3d.com/family/family.html Might get the missus to do a quick snap, as have very few if any recent. Frank ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Neon mockup
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: However, weren't we supposed to *not* use the logo in the default desktop wallpaper? It's not for a wallpaper; it's just concept art. :) Ha, ha, ha! This sounds so familiar... it came to me full circle :D Uh oh, what do you mean? The first graphics I made for Gears also had the logo and I also called them concepts, not wallpapers. Zing! (slang for ironic moments and whatnot, for those not from the US) -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
F10 Theme Proposal
Here we go, explanation of inspiration on the wiki page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Neon -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Screenshot help wiki page
Posted to both the art and the website list, though it's on the artwork wiki. With help from ricky, we have figured out a relatively easy way to get screenshots of our login screen and RHGB. Hopefully, with a bit of testing, we can confirm that it works with other areas of the boot process. Nonetheless, I posted a wiki page with how to do it with step by step instructions. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ScreenshotHelp -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Group photo
This will be fine. Pavel Shevchuk wrote: Will this one fit, or you need bigger? http://stalwart.fedorapeople.org/tmp/devcon1_crop.jpg On 4/30/08, Michael Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just had this little crazy idea based on my liking to see what people look like when I work with them. I was wondering if I could have permission to create a group photo of all the active members of the art team. It'd be a simple case of sending a preferred photo of yourself to me, and I'll create a composite of them all in The Gimp. Sort of like a Meet your F9/F10 Fedora artists thing. If you really prefer, you can opt out, but I think it'd be fun for everyone, as well as put names to faces. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Some inkscape help req. Fedora Related
The drop shadow you're seeing on the screen is just from the canvas. You can edit the size of that by going to File Document Properties. Then play with the settings around the middle area there. Frank Murphy wrote: Using Ryans Banner Template, but some problems occurring. When I try scale-down the mast it bloats up, becomes a blob. How can I extend the drop-shadow under blue? Frank ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD
Another thing to consider is the fact that due to feedback, we redid the wallpaper and didn't use any instances of sulfur crystals. It was a last minute thing that has happened quickly. Martin Sourada wrote: On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 11:21 +0200, Giacomo Succi wrote: I know that I disappear since the last release, but, as a lot of us know, the life is great troubles generator. Anyway. A new Fedora is coming and new Fedora's CD/DVD Artwork are needed. So I've create some new Artworks, as the previous one. At the moment they are in RFC phase, so go to http://succi.altervista.org/fedora/ and let's have a look. Please, feel free to comment/criticize my work!! Happy Fedoring!!! They look great! You might want to look at the DVD labels Nicu did some time ago: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/03/first-attempt-at-f9-sulphur-media.html Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: revised f9 wallpaper
Kind of pushing the deadlines on everything, but if we need to, I don't see why we couldn't make this work if we bust our butts. Not a lot seems to be off with the mockup you just sent. Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi folks, I've received a few complaints about the f9 wallpaper (it seems the sulphur is really unpopular) and I've been experimenting with alternative designs for it but trying to keep the same look and feel of the rest of the artwork. This is one of the ideas I've been working with - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling it up? thanks, ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: revised f9 wallpaper
I really want to know how you can crank out such good stuff so fast. I am envious. I approve of these replacing what we had. Máirín Duffy wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Um, okay so that took way more than 45 minutes... sorry but I've been playing with it a lot and think it's getting better. I added some bubbles sparkles and mucked with the ripples such that they match the rest of the artwork a little better and look a little bit more natural. Here's the mock so far: And here's this graphic done out for 4 times of day: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/ (used some simple gimp manipulation - using the levels tool - to produce each variation) What do you think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Waves] Complete wallpaper set
I believe the 1920x1200 is widescreen ratio Mark wrote: 2008/3/29, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I edited the day wallpaper a little bit more and generated the needed sizes (1920x1200, 1600x1200, 1280x1024, 800x480). The complete wallpaper set can be found at my fedora people page [1], SVGs are in the same folder but not included in the archive. Comments welcome, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/sulphuric-waves-wallpaper-set.tar.gz Nice! But can you make a widescreen set as well? This set will work fine on my desktop but not on my notebook (widescreen). ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Blurry Icons
Wiki page highlighting blurry/missing icons in F9beta http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9IconCheck -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 artwork
I can go in and edit the xml. I'd like to play around a little bit with it anyway to figure out the bits anyway. Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Matthias! Matthias Clasen wrote: Hey, now that the beta is out, it is high time that we start getting the F9 artwork in place. Unfortunately, I haven't followed the discussions on this list very closely in the last weeks, so I need a quick update on where we stand wrt to F9 art. Where can I find the existing pieces, and what is still missing ? This is what we have right now: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final What's missing? - syslinux splash - anaconda banner - wallpaper xml for transitions - gnome splash (optional) - gnome screensaver lock dialog (optional) Pavel's KDE splash isn't yet on the wiki but it seems Rex is going to handle checking it into fedora-logos. I'm going to try to knock out some of the missing bits today. I think the wallpapers need a bit of refinement too. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 artwork
Attached is the xml file that I edited from the infinity.xml to waves.xml Basically all I had to do was edit the start time, which I put for April 1st(not fooling here), and then change instances of infinity to waves. I kept the file naming structure for the png's the same, minus the theme name part. Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Matthias! Matthias Clasen wrote: Hey, now that the beta is out, it is high time that we start getting the F9 artwork in place. Unfortunately, I haven't followed the discussions on this list very closely in the last weeks, so I need a quick update on where we stand wrt to F9 art. Where can I find the existing pieces, and what is still missing ? This is what we have right now: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final What's missing? - syslinux splash - anaconda banner - wallpaper xml for transitions - gnome splash (optional) - gnome screensaver lock dialog (optional) Pavel's KDE splash isn't yet on the wiki but it seems Rex is going to handle checking it into fedora-logos. I'm going to try to knock out some of the missing bits today. I think the wallpapers need a bit of refinement too. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) background starttime year2008/year month04/month day01/day hour07/hour minute00/minute second00/second /starttime !-- This animation will start at 7 AM. -- !-- We start with sunrise at 7 AM. It will remain up for 1 hour. -- static duration3600.0/duration file/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunrise.png/file /static !-- Sunrise starts to transition to day at 8 AM. The transition lasts for 5 hours, ending at 1 PM. -- transition type=overlay duration18000.0/duration from/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunrise.png/from to/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/2-waves-day.png/to /transition !-- It's 1 PM, we're showing the day image in full force now, for 2 hours ending at 3 PM. -- static duration7200.0/duration file/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/2-waves-day.png/file /static !-- It's 3 PM, and we're starting to transition to sunset. Transition completes at 6 PM. -- transition type=overlay duration10800.0/duration from/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/2-waves-day.png/from to/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/3-waves-sunset.png/to /transition !-- It's 6 PM, and it's sunset, for an hour. Ends at 7. -- static duration3600.0/duration file/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/3-waves-sunset.png/file /static !-- It's 7 PM and it's going to start to get darker. This will transition for 5 hours up until midnight. -- transition type=overlay duration18000.0/duration from/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/3-waves-sunset.png/from to/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/4-waves-night.png/to /transition !-- It's midnight. It'll stay dark for 5 hours up until 5 AM. -- static duration18000.0/duration file/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/4-waves-night.png/file /static !-- It's 5 AM. We'll start transitioning to sunrise for 2 hours up until 7 AM. -- transition type=overlay duration7200.0/duration from/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/4-waves-night.png/from to/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunrise.png/to /transition /background ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 artwork
I'll get that added, thanks for the reminder Martin. Martin Sourada wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:55 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: Attached is the xml file that I edited from the infinity.xml to waves.xml Basically all I had to do was edit the start time, which I put for April 1st(not fooling here), and then change instances of infinity to waves. I kept the file naming structure for the png's the same, minus the theme name part. It might still need some tweaking, especially considering gnome now supports multiple resolutions so it would be beneficial to have it: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-February/msg00206.html Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 artwork
Here's an updated version with the support for multi-resolutions. However, I'm not sure how to handle it once we reach the static moments. Perhaps someone with some more experience can help at those points. Martin Sourada wrote: It might still need some tweaking, especially considering gnome now supports multiple resolutions so it would be beneficial to have it: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-February/msg00206.html Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) background starttime year2008/year month04/month day01/day hour07/hour minute00/minute second00/second /starttime !-- This animation will start at 7 AM. -- !-- We start with sunrise at 7 AM. It will remain up for 1 hour. -- static duration3600.0/duration file/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunrise.png/file /static !-- Sunrise starts to transition to day at 8 AM. The transition lasts for 5 hours, ending at 1 PM. -- transition type=overlay duration18000.0/duration from !-- Eeepc size -- size width=800 height=480/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunrise800.png/size !-- Odd resolution but apparently popular -- size width=1280 height=1024/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunrise1280.png/size !-- Standard 4:3 -- size width=1600 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunrise1600.png/size !-- Widescreen 16:10 -- size width=1920 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunrise1920.png/size /from to size width=800 height=480/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-day800.png/size size width=1280 height=1024/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-day1280.png/size size width=1600 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-day1600.png/size size width=1920 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-day1920.png/size /to /transition !-- It's 1 PM, we're showing the day image in full force now, for 2 hours ending at 3 PM. -- static duration7200.0/duration file/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/2-waves-day.png/file /static !-- It's 3 PM, and we're starting to transition to sunset. Transition completes at 6 PM. -- transition type=overlay duration10800.0/duration from size width=800 height=480/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-day800.png/size size width=1280 height=1024/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-day1280.png/size size width=1600 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-day1600.png/size size width=1920 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-day1920.png/size /from to size width=800 height=480/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunset800.png/size size width=1280 height=1024/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunset1280.png/size size width=1600 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunset1600.png/size size width=1920 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunset1920.png/size /to /transition !-- It's 6 PM, and it's sunset, for an hour. Ends at 7. -- static duration3600.0/duration file/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/3-waves-sunset.png/file /static !-- It's 7 PM and it's going to start to get darker. This will transition for 5 hours up until midnight. -- transition type=overlay duration18000.0/duration from size width=800 height=480/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunset800.png/size size width=1280 height=1024/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunset1280.png/size size width=1600 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunset1600.png/size size width=1920 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunset1920.png/size /from to size width=800 height=480/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-night800.png/size size width=1280 height=1024/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-night1280.png/size size width=1600 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-night1600.png/size size width=1920 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-night1920.png/size /to /transition !-- It's midnight. It'll stay dark for 5 hours up until 5 AM. -- static duration18000.0/duration file/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/4-waves-night.png/file /static !-- It's 5 AM. We'll start transitioning to sunrise for 2 hours up until 7 AM. -- transition type=overlay duration7200.0/duration from size width=800 height=480/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-night800.png/size size width=1280 height=1024/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-night1280.png/size size width=1600 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-night1600.png/size size width=1920 height=1200/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-night1920.png/size /from to size width=800 height=480/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunrise800.png/size size width=1280 height=1024/usr/share/backgrounds/waves/1-waves-sunrise1280.png/size size width=1600
Firefox Personas
It's still early in its overall development, but I think this is something that we should definitely look into. http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/12/personas-for-firefox/ Very cool potential and I'll probably be trying out a design for Fedora. For you inkscape users, there is an Inkscape podcast about creating the graphics located at http://screencasters.heathenx.org/episode-048/ -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new icons?
Valent Turkovic wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png Hi, I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons in F8. I know that, but they look old compared to the rest of the artwork. Are you looking to update them? What? ~m If you open gnome menu to me icons look like from some old linux desktop, they don't look as polished as other visual elements of fedora desktop. I don't understand what you don't understand here. I'm not an artists but I can give you my honest opnion that they look misplaced and old compared to any other icon. If you look at firefox or evolution icons they look much better on fedora desktop that icons for Accesories, Education, Games. Games icon looks really retro, and it that was the intent of the artwork then I wouldn't say anything, but I guess it is not. How long are these icons being used? When was the last update of them? Which year? Which fedora release? English is not my primary language so there statements may look a bit to direct and harsh but this is not my intention and all I would like to start is some constructive discussion. Cheers, Valent. Which is all why we have people working on a new set (Echo) but they're busy with their own lives half the time and development is slow and at times heavily criticized(they're not tango). -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wiki Migration
Mike McGrath wrote: Hey Art Team! The Infrastructure team is looking to move to mediawiki and would like to work with your team to figure out how best to do that. We have over 4,000 attachments that we have no idea what to do with right now. What would be optimum for your team? Would a non-wiki solution work best? Do any of you know of any gallery type plugins for mediawiki? How does your workflow work for the arts section of the wiki? Does it work for you guys? Do you like it? Anyone here interested in helping with the wiki migration? As you can see, we've got a LONG way to go. https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork -Mike ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I looked at the testing version that is up and I really like the potential. I don't know very much about wiki installation/migration and whatnot, but I'm certainly not against learning and helping where I can. Lets do this. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Firstboot Design
Jon Stanley wrote: 2008/3/13 Ian Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oh wow, I really like the Fedora logo with the sulphur around it. Maybe it could be used for other things where space is constrained... ;) +1. The desk around the computer looks too cluttered and busy though, IMHO, but what do I know, I'm no artist!. :) Great work! ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I think the desk clutter is leftover from previous implementations -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves
Even little touches like these would get those people who complain about too much blue, to probably be satisfied Nicu Buculei wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Well here's my first attempt: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b I like where are you going with this. Maybe make the flame look more like a flame and not like a blue cloud? Even if it not so realistic (considering the photo from wikimedia commons), it may be better distinguishable. Attached a sketch of what I mean. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves
I'm going to go with the darkest blue wallpapers. One of the last 2 under the Round 3 header. I think something that we could change for color for that feature is either some of the shades of the sulfur or perhaps the colors of the waves. Nicu Buculei wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached it to the page [1]. I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to splashes (the deadline is coming). So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we are going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here... References: [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
10 Mistakes in Icon Design
http://turbomilk.com/truestories/cookbook/criticism/10-mistakes-in-icon-design/ -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Round 2 theme
Due to lack of refinement and lack of time, I'm pulling my Freedom theme proposal out of the running for Fedora 9, and throwing my support behind the Waves proposal. Hopefully this fall, I can have my concept refined and more ready and perhaps we can free ourselves in Fedora 10. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new tshirts
One idea I had last night while reading my e-mail offline at home, was putting the refined versions of Mairin's poster designs and using them on the shirts. The designs that have the 3 parts of one of Fedora's motto on it. We could sell them individually and perhaps as a 3 pack at a discount rate. Max Spevack wrote: Hi art team, We would like to make tshirts for a variety of Fedora needs. I thought I would email this list to see if folks here wanted to work on ideas, etc. This is a very liberal request -- I don't want to put any restrictions on your ideas or designs. Stuff we are looking for: * A general Fedora tshirt, to replace the one we have now that is just the Fedora logo on the front. This will be our main swag item for, say, the next year. * a tshirt for FUDCon at the Red Hat Summit in Boston, June 2008, for everyone who shows up. * a tshirt for Fedora @ LinuxTag (biggest linux show in europe) in Berlin, May 2008, for the people in the booth and also as a giveaway. * now that we have a codename for Fedora 9, maybe some sort of tshirt that is derived from the Fedora 9 theme/artwork. Just thought I'd see what kind of discussion this generates, and try to start the discussion with a lot of lead time. thanks! As always, you guys are awesome. --Max ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Round 2
Since my overbloated e-mail sent in a hurry yesterday never went through, or just no one replied, here's a better e-mail. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom Updated wiki! I have some ideas to possibly use instead of those graphics, including changes in art style, and we'll see how those turn out. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 2 reminder
I still have some stuff in the works for this but may have to get them submitted in at the last second due to working a lot of nights this weekend. I haven't forgotten nonetheless Nicu Buculei wrote: The current deadline for Round 2 is less than one week away, February 5th. Recently we had some theming activity, but most proposals from Round 1 are still unmodified and not enough polished for Round 2 and none has all the required graphics (wallpaper and 3 supporting artworks: vertical, horizontal, square). So there are a few days remaining to work on themes you care about to make them apt for Round 2. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: Gerold wrote: I like that idea very much; and also Mike is happy to get some more smolt-sender :-) Who will take the lead to bring such an idea to Max / Mike or whom it may concern? You, as you where the one you came with the idea in the first place :p Seriously, this is hot the things works: you don't have to wait for anyone else, take the initiative and follow it. If anything, taking the initiative and doing it yourself is the fastest way to getting your idea implemented. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A pretty please (regrading Fedora 9 theme)
Valent Turkovic wrote: Reviews are just reviews. I've seen a lot of positive ones about Fedora 8 as well. - Andreas Have you heard latest Linux Action Show (LAS)? I really agree with them, not because I'm mindless LAS gnome but because they totally resonate with my own opinion. Please listen to it. It comes down to mediocre - design wise, but only on some element because some parts are great but some are just not - and that makes the difference even more obvious. Fedora is a great distro and has really cutting edge technology and we feel a bit disappointed when design doesn't follow that as it did with FC6 and F7 IMHO. Valent. I have listened to that podcast since at least this past summer, and enjoy it, but the fact remains is that they are still just 2 reviewers with negative thoughts swimming in a lot of reviews of positive. However, I will agree with you Valent about one thing, and that is the default gnome-icons in the menu. They do look retro in not the best ways, and I hope that F9 can change the fact. It's something we can all work towards changing soon. We have the time, but not necessarily the manpower all the time. Lots to do for each release and it seems like only a handful of people do often. The art team tends to be small in terms of active workers, from my perspective, which is a shame. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: But the HDD in all other themes is in horizontal position. Echo will stay off. No issues here with it being vertical. People are already turning folder vertical. 2008/1/9, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 18:04 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: But why the HDD doesn't lay : ? I suppose you meant 'lie'? If so than because it's an action icon and it would look really strange among other action icons if it were lying. Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com mailto:Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: No issues here with it being vertical. People are already turning folder vertical. I only saw them in M$' OS. Not looking hard enough. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/black-white?content=70299 http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/newblack?content=72273 I imagine those are just two examples of many that are available with peoples abilities to make their own icon packs. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: 2008/1/9, Michael Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: No issues here with it being vertical. People are already turning folder vertical. I only saw them in M$' OS. Not looking hard enough. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/black-white?content=70299 http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/newblack?content=72273 I imagine those are just two examples of many that are available with peoples abilities to make their own icon packs. Blah. Examples you shown are the ugliest icons I've ever seen. The even not worth looking. Not the point, the point is people are starting to go vertical and not just in Windows. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
New themes, that are relatively radically different, I tend to think ARE Fedora's recognizable look. Something new and well done to greet you with each release. No you can't satisfy everyone, but that should be expected. Just look at modern art for an example of that. Daniel Geiger wrote: I believe it would be beneficial to Fedora to stabilize the artwork in successive releases. IMO, radically changing the artwork each release detracts from giving Fedora a recognizable look and feel. I am for refining and improving the artwork, though--maybe in the degree to which Ubuntu refines their backgrounds. As someone else said, I also believe that the artwork of F8 is a good release to build upon for refinements. A question of clarification: what exactly is meant here by theme -- GTK+/Metacity, icons, artwork, or something else? ~Daniel *//* Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Form widgets on fpo website
I'm apparently blind, you're unclear with what you say. From a personal standpoint, when someone lists some terms with any reference to google, they mean to do searching, not look at the buttons on the page. Should have clarified. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: You're blind... Google.com has native widgets! Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 18:38 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: Why should I do a google search for something you're arguing for? I don't have a problem with what I'm seeing when I visit the page. Just for the sake of not arguing, I did do a google search for both native widgets and didn't find any sort of examples of what I was asking for. Maybe I'm just blind, so if you could point one out like I asked, I'd be happy to click. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list For the sake of arguement of why I was, perhaps, not the best person to try arguing the point, I attached what I see with most form buttons, including google.com. It takes on the colors of my gnome theme overall, using 2.0.0.10 build of FF Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 01:38 +0100, Michael Beckwith wrote: Why should I do a google search for something you're arguing for? I don't have a problem with what I'm seeing when I visit the page. Just for the sake of not arguing, I did do a google search for both native widgets and didn't find any sort of examples of what I was asking for. Maybe I'm just blind, so if you could point one out like I asked, I'd be happy to click. Personally I think he meant the google.com page itself as an example with the right widgets. So to show you the differences: this[ff-old.png] is start.fp.o in F8's epiphany, this[ff-native] is start.fp.o in FF3 and this[ff-fpo] is fp.o. I guess you see the difference on first sight ;) Martin -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) inline: google.png___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Form widgets on fpo website
Well, you can do the appealing to the people that be that dictate the default appearance of any sort of basic form appearance for forms. It's nothing that the art or the website team have anything to do with. Until you can appeal to the people that set this, you can either use a browser that supports styled forms, or put up with it. On a personal note, I am not really all that bothered by whatever form widgets are on fedoraproject.org root url. Only one I see is the one to switch the language, which is small enough and out of the way enough to not worry about personally. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: But it doesn't change the fact. Form styling (not the alignment, the appearance css part) MUST be removed or changed to non-rectangular (rectangles were nice in win9x epoch). Dnia 24-12-2007, pon o godzinie 23:53 +, Kevin Kofler pisze: Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek jakub.rusinek at gmail.com writes: Konqueror doesn't support styled forms. And I'd say that's a good thing, for the exact reason you describe. I haven't tried the KDE 4 version yet though, they might have fixed it. Kevin Kofler ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Form widgets on fpo website
I see nothing wrong with styling it for those who have support for it. It's a web accessability thing. Ability to style it and see a nice looking form, or if your browser doesn't support it, then it still gets form controls with the universal default which still allows it to be useable. If your complaint is that the styled version is 90ish with a square appearance, then I will reconsider my arguements. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Exactly that widgets should not be styled. Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:06 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: Well, you can do the appealing to the people that be that dictate the default appearance of any sort of basic form appearance for forms. It's nothing that the art or the website team have anything to do with. Until you can appeal to the people that set this, you can either use a browser that supports styled forms, or put up with it. On a personal note, I am not really all that bothered by whatever form widgets are on fedoraproject.org root url. Only one I see is the one to switch the language, which is small enough and out of the way enough to not worry about personally. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: But it doesn't change the fact. Form styling (not the alignment, the appearance css part) MUST be removed or changed to non-rectangular (rectangles were nice in win9x epoch). -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Form widgets on fpo website
FP.org is not a Web 2.0centric website. The most important thing for it to do is present information about Fedora. If you really want to have things with the form change, contact the right mailing list and appeal your case to them. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: You don't understand. Rectangular widgets, non-native are ugly and they're making websites looking more out-of-the-box, what's wrong. Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:23 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: I see nothing wrong with styling it for those who have support for it. It's a web accessability thing. Ability to style it and see a nice looking form, or if your browser doesn't support it, then it still gets form controls with the universal default which still allows it to be useable. If your complaint is that the styled version is 90ish with a square appearance, then I will reconsider my arguements. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Exactly that widgets should not be styled. Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:06 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: Well, you can do the appealing to the people that be that dictate the default appearance of any sort of basic form appearance for forms. It's nothing that the art or the website team have anything to do with. Until you can appeal to the people that set this, you can either use a browser that supports styled forms, or put up with it. On a personal note, I am not really all that bothered by whatever form widgets are on fedoraproject.org root url. Only one I see is the one to switch the language, which is small enough and out of the way enough to not worry about personally. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: But it doesn't change the fact. Form styling (not the alignment, the appearance css part) MUST be removed or changed to non-rectangular (rectangles were nice in win9x epoch). -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list __ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Form widgets on fpo website
Actually, Jakub, could you do me a favor and link to a page or image of the type of form styling you would like to see? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Form widgets on fpo website
Why should I do a google search for something you're arguing for? I don't have a problem with what I'm seeing when I visit the page. Just for the sake of not arguing, I did do a google search for both native widgets and didn't find any sort of examples of what I was asking for. Maybe I'm just blind, so if you could point one out like I asked, I'd be happy to click. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Google.com - native widgets. Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 15:58 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: Actually, Jakub, could you do me a favor and link to a page or image of the type of form styling you would like to see? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Form widgets on fpo website
Concerns like this should go to the fedora-websites-list Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Hi, I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones... Especially when Firefox 3 is gonna arrive very quickly. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 9 Theme Artwork Schedule (proposed)
No issues from me Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi folks, What do you think about this schedule for the F9 theming process? Also, how about the requirements for rounds 1-3? Tuesday, January 8 2008 - Default theme round 1 deadline. Requirements: formal mailing list proposal, proposal page on the wiki linked up to the F9 theming process page, at least 3 sketches to illustrate concept. Tuesday, February 5 2008 - Default theme round 2 deadline. Requirements: at least 1 wallpaper and 3 supporting graphics - one that is horizontally long, one that is vertically long, and one that is square in design. Thursday, February 28 2008 - Default theme round 3 deadline - requirements are entire suite of artwork listed on ThemingOverview close to final versions. We will try to get this artwork into beta, freeze is 4 March. Monday March 10th - marketing discussion Monday March 24th - finalize DVD/CD label artwork Monday March 31st - Firefox default page artwork Thursday April 8th - www.fedoraproject.org F9 launch materials ready ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 15:31 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: If we are going to use the animation feature in Fedora 9 (I think we should. A lot of people commented on it, some thought Fedora broke their monitor and it probably will be in upstream GNOME), then a chain slowly breaking free over time might be a cool thing. The only problem being that it will return daily (or on some basis), which doesn't send the intended message. I was thinking perhaps gradually change the colors of the chain links. I was also thinking about having the shadows of the chains be the same color as the neutral background, while the midtones and highlights a couple shades lighter. It'll help with abstractness a bit. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Anyone from the art team going to FUDCon?
I would go if I was in the area, but alas South Dakota has me whipped John (J5) Palmieri wrote: I would like to meet with anyone if they are going. Let me know so we can all look for each other. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: By the way, please don't take inspiration from other distros. I know from experience, it's not good inspiration source [1]. There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking inspiration from other distros, as long as you're not just blatantly copying it. Take the idea and add your own things to it, chances are you could come up with something better. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Hmmm. Ubuntu had codec buddy-like application. Fedora implemented same but which install only Fluendo's codecs and attacks sometimes with prices. Wake up, Fedora is OpenSource and it takes power from OpenSource, so it should not recommend paying and external company. It's wrong and should be fixed. Livna is not official, bot don't be silly, it provides quality driver and nonfree packages like codecs. You should support also Livna repo, but not ship it by default. Livna is better than ATRPMs - we might be sure :] . Don't know others... What about inspiration would you say now? Dnia 11-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:56 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking inspiration from other distros, as long as you're not just blatantly copying it. Take the idea and add your own things to it, chances are you could come up with something better. First off, how does this relate to the topic at hand about Ubuntu's theme? Considering the fact that this is the art list and that's what Laith was talking about when he started this mailing list thread. The things I mentioned in regards to inspiration stems from what Ubuntu is doing with their theming. Second off, from what I remember from screenshots of Codec Buddy, it first gives a message about supporting FOSS codecs like those in the .OGG container. Then it offers a way to legally pay for the codec use, if that's your thing. As a third option that isn't listed officially, but is suggest on the Fedora forum as well as in the official IRC room, is the livna repo which is a quality repo and I use regularly. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Still off topic. When I was doing some harddrive shuffling and reformatting, I ended up deleting music that I owned on CD. When it came to re-ripping them, I put them in ogg instead of mp3. Every now and then I'll do some converting from mp3 to ogg, despite the fact that you lose quality. Still nowhere near all ogg though. Laith Juwaidah wrote: I know this is way off topic, but I really wanna know, do you, opensource fans (not that I'm not), not use mp3? Is your music collection in ogg format? And to make it completely off topic, any good converters? Hahaha, just kidding :D -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Back on topic. I have to agree with Laith here. The potential that Ubuntu has with the menu setup is looking rather nice. Not sure I like the rounded edges for the hightlights inside the menu though. The tooltips are also looking decent. Perhaps we can get some inspiration for something similar. Laith Juwaidah wrote: Hi, I just found this digg[1] today. I NEVER liked Ubuntu's theme (the orangy one), but now with that brown color, that smooth bar, those round edges around the bubble, and the semi-transparant menu, it looks pretty amazing! We really should beat that, we can't let that brown-ish thing beat us! I'm sure there's a good blue theme that looks better than that treehouse! Cheers! [1] http://digg.com/linux_unix/Could_This_Become_Ubuntu_s_New_Theme_for_Hardy_Heron ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
Updated the theme page with two more visual ideas. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
Nicu Buculei wrote: Interesting. I am curious how this would look in full color. Do you plan for strong, full saturated colors? I'm not sure what I was considering when it came to coloring. I think most of the time in my mind I was picturing more muted colors, so that it doesn't obstruct too much with desktop icons and whatnot, but also there is a lot of negative space that people could put their icons in and still get full view of the arm. You should avoid the Freedom text or *any* other text. It does not work in our multilingual settings, I believe we have a guideline somewhere saying the wallpaper should not include any text. You may want to replace such text with an icon, but I feel the broken chain has the potential to work well enough as an icon. I knew that part was questionable but put it in there anyway. There are definitely possible replacements for Freedom. One off the top of my head is the Fedora logo within the speech bubble. The broken chain part is, obviously supposed to represent the breaking free and I think the emphasis lines around it add a very nice touch that explains what's going on. Another thing to consider in an multi-cultural context like ours: in some cultures hand gestures have completely different meanings that you are used to (and may be offensive: one finger, two fingers, the open pal, the fist, etc.). Definitely going to have to be considered. Perhaps I or someone else could research what a balled up fist represents in multiple cultures so not to offend anyone. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
We're still in the first round where all we're doing is thumbing and trying to represent what we would like to see. Come 2nd round, if mine makes it, I'll get to present more refined and developed versions. ;) No worries yet Jakub. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: I dislike sketch. But I hope you'll send some mockups and those will be great ;) . ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
Both Jonathan and Matthias' ideas noted. I'll consider them for other possibilities and post what I come up with. Jonathan Roberts wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 19:16 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 10:30 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: Another thing to consider in an multi-cultural context like ours: in some cultures hand gestures have completely different meanings that you are used to (and may be offensive: one finger, two fingers, the open palm, the fist, etc.). Yeah. Words bad, body parts really bad... Michael, how about an over-simplification of your concept, leaving *only* the broken chain? Could the chain merge into the fedora logo or something? Jon ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Link for official F9 theme proposal
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom Enjoy. I'll post more sketches of ideas later. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Gimp Gap
Nicu Buculei wrote: For a long time using GAP is one of the things I want to learn more about, but didn't get to it so far (some years ago it used to be packaged in Fedora). I'd really like to learn more too, especially if it has some power to export to video files. Just a wild guess: maybe it is not ported to GIMP 2.4? It would be nice to have it packaged in Fedora and if we ever get to the Art Studio spin, it would be a must-have there, I think. I could believe that but I'm hoping against it. I'll probably hang out in the GIMP IRC channels or hit up their mailing list within the next couple days. In regards to the art studio, yes, definitely. Maybe Mairin will have something about it once she gets back from her trip. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Gimp Gap
Yeah, I tend to forget the devel and header stuff all the time. People in the GIMP IRC rooms reminded me of that and through some more tweaking, I managed to get a barebone version compiled and running. I still have all the source stuff and will probably give some more goes at it soon. I'd really like to get the Ogg stuff enabled, that way i could play around with ogg video and whatnot. Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 01:43 -0600, Michael Beckwith wrote: Does anyone by chance have an rpm for gimp-gap-2.2.2? I try to compile it myself but get this error: checking for GIMP... configure: error: Package requirements (gimp-2.0 = 2.2.0 gimpui-2.0 = 2.2.0 gimpthumb-2.0) were not met: No package 'gimp-2.0' found No package 'gimpui-2.0' found No package 'gimpthumb-2.0' found Do I need to do some more installing to get those packages and then try again? You just need the gimp-devel package installed. However, I note that the functionality will probably be greatly increased if you do not have other packages installed that are forbidden in Fedora due to legal encumbrances. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: start the process for F9 theming?
I'm going to stick with my original proposal of following the motto that Fedora sort of has. Infinity, Freedom, Choice, unless I'm mistaken and have been corrected on that and forget that fact. Since we covered Infinity, I'll try and come up with some ideas for Freedom. Nicu Buculei wrote: The schedule for the F9 release is published [2], I think the time to start the process for its graphics, so I created the placeholder wiki page [1] (dates are marked as TBD, they will be defined by Mo, probably counting the F9 release schedule and the winter holidays). What do you think about the 3 round process based on the past experience? Do it need modifications, improvements? There were some ideas for an additional preliminary round. So talk in this thread about the process and in new threads about theming proposals. [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes [2] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Schedule -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 Name Proposal
I'd vote for a dragon based one. I already named all 3 of my local hosts in relation to dragons. IceDragon, WaterDragon, and FireDragon Martin Sourada wrote: I am aware of these rules, so I'll explicitly say what I meant with my name suggestion(s) and also add one more: Nosferatu / Dracula / Draculina / Vampire (whoever) * A mythical half-beast, like a werewolf * For F-10 (or F-X?) we could use one of the connections to vampires via many films they were in... And the promised one Uroboros / Glaurung / Dragon (whoever) * Mythical creature * Can be succeeded by any of the heroes, characters, ... from films, literature, games... (personally I'd follow with Beowulf) * Uroboros (though the word itself does not sound to me much nice) has some good connection to Fedora itself, as it symbolises infinity and unity, in words from wikipedia[1]: It has been used to represent many things over the ages, but it most generally symbolizes ideas of cyclicality, unity, or infinity. * Glaurung is the first dragon ever born in Tolkien's mythology Martin References: [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 - Nice Job
At least from some screenshots I've seen, there's a dialog box that encourages FOSS codecs but if you can't live without, then they lead you to a place to legally get the closed codecs. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: I also think Fedora looks... How to say it original way... BEAUTIFUL :] . Don't like Codeina - it proposes Fluendo and commercial codecs instead of OpenSource codecs, but I always make my Fedora Desktop from Terminal, with yum, so I don't care... Dnia 12-11-2007, pon o godzinie 13:06 -0500, John Baer pisze: Mo, Nicu, and others, Just wanted to say Job Well Done! IMO Fedora 8 has a tasteful professional appearance that will be well received. Cheers, John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
F9 theming
I think we should get the process started and our minds rolling for what to do with the next release in May. For Fedora 8, we covered Infinity, I think we should continue on the path using the Infinity, Freedom, Choice, and thus should try and create a theme revolving around freedom. I know that there are many definitions that could be incorporated and people all over will have their own definition of it. We would be able to produce a lot of options for visual interpretations of the concept. Anyone else have thoughts for how we should handle Fedora 9? -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 Features pdf
I'm using Scribus for it all. Martin Sourada wrote: On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 23:12 +0100, Michael Beckwith wrote: I've always had a history of making layouts too tight, so I'll work on that as well. For the borders part, you'd like to see 1in margins? I can certainly adjust the gap between the columns though. It's a habit caused by TeX default setting, so yes, I'd like to see 1 in margins, but it is not a necessity :) The gaps are caused by the use of justification alignment. Not sure where Word Division is but I haven't browsed all the menus yet. Yep, it is recommended that you use Word Division when you use the justification alignment... By the way, what application do you use to make the pdf? Also I noticed, one of the hyperlinks is set in bold while the rest is set using standard glyphs, you should use bold (or italics) for all. Minor detail that I would have needed pointed out sooner or later, thanks for reminding me. Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Mistake with the source file
Forgot that the images and whatnot would not go with the .sla file i sent earlier here's a tarball of the entire directory http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/F8-Press-Release.tar.gz -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora 8 PDF.
This is a mass preliminary e-mail to three mailing lists. What I have done so far with the marketing PDF is get the content and images laid out and desiring feedback for it at this stage. After I get some technical critique and suggestions, I'll go ahead and work on visual presentation. Some notes that I have that I have seen is: -a need to seperate some of the feature paragraphs with a line or some sort of visual blockage so people know where to stop. -locate where word divisions is so that the justification of the text doesn't string out so much of the words in some areas. -decorate and also fill the 9th page with technical information. -find some image to use on the 1st page at the top. A header is needed. latest PDF: http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/11-7.pdf tarball with all files: http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/F8-Press-Release.tar.gz -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
F8 Features pdf
I am in need of some help and/or suggestions for decoration of a pdf intended to display all of the upcoming features in Fedora 8. You can find what I have as of early this afternoon, at http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/11-6.pdf I am wanting to get content placed first and then work on the appearance. If you would like to contribute some graphics, or look for ideas for some graphics, a good example would be Ubuntu's Full Circle Magazine. http://fullcirclemagazine.org If you would like to contribute some graphics to be used or ideas, feel free, I'll appreciate it. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 Features pdf
Martin Sourada wrote: First I don't like the fonts - the comic one has too narrow letters (I prefer wider ones, maybe even rather sans or serif than comic, try e.g. URW Gothic), the serif one is strange (it's DejaVu, isn't it?). Is it intended for print or for screen? If for print, set the serif font to something nicer, I'd maybe use some of the URW set (seems that URW Bookman could be nice). I'd also use smaller fonts for chapters - I usually use about 20 % bigger font than that of previous levels (e.g. 12pt for text, 17pt for chapters and 14pt for Sections). Or, if you want to look it techy, you can use the fonts from the Computer Modern set that are used by TeX. I changed the feature titles to URW Gothic 17 pt, and the body text to URW Bookman. Yes it was DejaVu at first, and the feature titles were MgModata. As for the layout, I think it's too tight. First I'd use wider page borders (about 1 inch each) and I would use wider space between the columns (maybe something between 1 cm and 0.5 in). I am aware that these changes will result in growing of the size (as how much paper is needed), but nicer looking text. I've always had a history of making layouts too tight, so I'll work on that as well. For the borders part, you'd like to see 1in margins? I can certainly adjust the gap between the columns though. Oh, and I just noticed, dunno for sure, but it could be good to turn words division on, or at least work a little on the text to avoid over too big spaces like in the 'learn more at' line (before http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/). The gaps are caused by the use of justification alignment. Not sure where Word Division is but I haven't browsed all the menus yet. Also I noticed, one of the hyperlinks is set in bold while the rest is set using standard glyphs, you should use bold (or italics) for all. Minor detail that I would have needed pointed out sooner or later, thanks for reminding me. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 Features pdf -UPDATED
Here's an updated pdf of what I have so far. From my count, it's about half done in regards to content being present. After that, styling B-). You know the requested routine http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/11-6-evening.pdf ~Michael ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Spins image
Mo, do you have any sort of finalized spins image? I'd like to include one in the Fedora 8 Features pdf I'm putting together -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Art Wiki
Through my interaction with the wiki and just trying to find information in general, I've come to realize that the wiki is extremely messy and hard to navigate. I would like to propose a revamp of sorts for it. This would involve mapping out what we currently have, reorganizing and re-mapping, and then implementing the new navigation. At this current point, I am already working on mapping out what is there currently, and I'll keep working on it and post what I find at a later date. What I'd like from the rest of you, is finding out who is interested in helping to reorganize. I'd like to do as much of this discussion in our IRC room, but the mailing list would work as well. What would be discussed is determining what major sections we should have, what 2nd level navigation should be, and so on. After that, someone or a few people can start implementing what we come up with, hopefully resulting in an easy to navigate wiki that has clarity and ease to locate the information you need. So, who's interested in helping out? -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art Wiki
Thank you, I think once we get this ball rolling, which I think I'll aim for after Fedora 8's release(after the stressful time of the next 2 weeks), we'll appreciate all the help we can get. I'll take a look at the links you provided and take notes. María Leandro wrote: Hi, I'm part of the Fedora Team - Venezuela, and we are working in a Spanish wiki to help us to find and make information to help our community... almost all Latin America. If you like to see our wiki, and take some ideas, I leave here some URL. main = http://wiki.fedora-ve.org/ Art Gallery = http://wiki.fedora-ve.org/Comunidad/Galeria_de_Arte http://wiki.fedora-ve.org/Comunidad/Galeria_de_Arte Photo Gallery = http://wiki.fedora-ve.org/Fotos Art = http://wiki.fedora-ve.org/Botones about music players... = http://wiki.fedora-ve.org/Aplicaciones_de_Usuario/Audio And the list go on we are trying to document everything we do... I'm in charge of the Fedora-Venezuela Art, so... If I can help you... will be glad :D Greetings from Venezuela! -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Idea for future releases
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: I think any input is good to get the creative juices flowing. We want input from across Fedora not just within the art team. If the Board has ideas about where a release is going I think it couldn't hurt to hear them right! Sure! E.g., I think the best approach is just to gather all the ideas we get... maybe have a step before our round 1 proposals where we gather a whole list of ideas from throughout the community from which to make proposals from? You know, Round 1 has easy requirements, we can blend this with Round 1 (maybe make it a bit longer too) and get more people to submit ideas, even if they are not part of the Art team nor skilled with graphics. I think we could call this round .5. Also, we could start it right now. Yes everyone is really busy with the release in two weeks, but if they have any sort of scribbled down idea, we could start gathering them now in preparation for initial brainstorming with F9 -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Idea for future releases
I meant more in like this. For Fedora 9, all of the theme submissions follow a certain style of art, and then Fedora 10 does a different style. Also a variation is everyone choosing an art style that they're interested in and following that for their submission. It'd allow us to read up on some art history and push our creativity in an already established style. Other than that, yes, I know that any theme i suggest, no matter what method is getting used, will be considered. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Dnia 24 X 2007 05:41:45, Michael Beckwith napisał(a): At least if we wanted to try it out. We could start building themes around various art styles. IE. De Stihl, Cubism, realism, etc. Just an idea -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list You can make mockups and create wiki page for the theme, and send proposal to the list. There's chance, your theme 'll be included. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Idea for future releases
At least if we wanted to try it out. We could start building themes around various art styles. IE. De Stihl, Cubism, realism, etc. Just an idea -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Updated Font SIG
Nicu Buculei wrote: Michael Beckwith wrote: Updated, took the original logo back into the image, and changed the font for Font SIG PNG: http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fontsig/fontsig-revised-3.png Uh, I saw it first on deviantART and commented there, but will repeat on the list: my advice is to use a standard size for the banner, something like 468x60 or 600x120 instead of the non-standard 500x190. Going from Nicu's suggestion, I made a version for both sizes listed. 468x60: http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fontsig/fontsig-468x60.png http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fontsig/fontsig-468x60.svg 600x120: http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fontsig/fontsig-600x120.png http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fontsig/fontsig-600x120.png -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fonts SIG banner
Here is a banner/graphics option that I did up yesterday and today for the Fedora Font SIG. Mairin and I are tweaking the text slightly cause of some of what I did doesn't follow usage guidelines, but should give you the overall feel. Don't they look like a happy (font) family? http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fontsig/fontsig-revised-2.png ~Michael ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
CD/DVD design mockup
Have since managed to create a png file of the design, after just letting inkscape do its thing with occasional temporary freezes. http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/infinity_art/infinity-cd-design.pnghttp://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/infinity_art/infinity-cd-design.svg -- Since Mairin mentioned that we still needed to design the artwork for the Fedora 8 hardcopy dvd/cd's, I decided to give a crack at it. Due to having some issues with exporting as a png through inkscape, here is the svg. http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/infinity_art/infinity-cd-design.svg Any comments and suggestions will be considered and appreciated. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: CD/DVD design mockup
For some reason, the first link is opening up the .svg for me. If it's doing that to you too, just change it to a .png I figure I might explain some of my ideas behind this. Throughout all the artwork, we see various moments of the lines just going through the items. Here we have the point where all of the lines join, forming the strong form that Mairin mentioned in her interview. I was thinking that when you see the cd/dvd, you finally arrive. You get the final product, ready to install, and release to the world. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FUDCon logo
I vote number 5. Simple, to the point, light weight feeling(The others look to have a lot of visual weight). My 2nd choice would be number 4 -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Art Spin Update
I could potentially help out with the podcast/etc relevent to artists part. I'm a big podcast fan, and know about the notion a bit. On 10/6/07, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Just as a quick update on the Fedora Art Spin - I created a first cut at a kickstart file to create this spin from in revisor: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=artstudio-ks-oct_6_2007.cfg Revisor is still chugging away at it now so if it works I'll probably get around to testing it later this weekend. Nothing too exciting... there's no custom artwork for it, and none of the extra content (brushes, clipart, etc) we'd discussed earlier. I wanted to follow Nicu's suggestion of just having SOMETHING to start with so I figured getting the apps together would be a good start. I found some interesting ones: - cheese - cool webcam app - hugin - panoramic image creator - postr - flickr image upload tool - gnome-specimen - font specimen tool - zim - looks cool for taking notes - gscan2pdf - maybe will make creating multipage pdfs from the scanner easier Some of the tasks I see ahead: - test out first cut using this kickstart file. how big is it in MB? if it's too big to create a live cd, we'll have to have two kickstarts for it, one with everything and a whittled-down version for the livecd. - packaging up the content we want that's not in fedora - fonts, clipart, plugins, etc - custom artwork... at least just adding a 'art studio' moniker under the fedora logo in places maybe. - custom configuration for the gnome menus... ooh this would be nice - custom configuration some apps might be a nice touch: - feeds relevant to artists pre-configured in lifrea - bookmarks relevant to artists pre-configured in firefox - podcasts / etc relevant to artists pre-configured in rhythmbox (maybe not so many in ogg though :( ) Anything I'm forgetting? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Games Spin: Look and Feel
excitebike and SMB ftw On 10/6/07, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Well, one thing that other Fedorans :) have suggested to me a lot is having an '8-bit' Fedora theme. E.g., a theme for Fedora that has graphics reminiscent of early video game consoles artwork. http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/8bit-fedora.png imagine little mushrooms and tufts of grass and platforms around that maybe a silly idea? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: More Echo icons to the Places menu
I think I'm going to agree with Jakub. I downloaded the echo set from yum last night for F7 and they're looking good. I won't bother pointing out icons that appear blurry on my monitor, cause I figure most of them are already in the works. On 9/27/07, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love new Echo folder. Really really good work :) . Keep up with good work :) ! -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A little note
Good luck with your studies man On 9/23/07, Ben Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All - You may have noticed I have been rather quiet since the themeing process for F8 ended. This is because I have been rather busy preparing to start university and have had no time to contribute to the Artwork team's endevours. It is with regret that, as I want to concentrate as much as possible on my studies, I must leave the team because I feel I can no longer help with them. I would like to thank everyone for being so welcoming and positive in the themeing, icon and UI developments. I will continue to admire your efforts in future releases and hope you keep up the great work making Fedora the best distro in the world! ./Ben -- |..// seawolf //..| | Ben Arnold | |e-mail / msn / icq / web | | http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | |GnuPG Available - ask me!| ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Metacity theme issue
Not sure what to say about this cause I just installed the nodoka theme and enabled compiz fusion, and they have hover states working. On 9/22/07, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There's one issue with newest Nodoka M-city theme. When I hover close, maximize or minimize button - nothing happens, but when I hover window menu button - all possible buttons are in prelight/ hover state. That's strange. I'm using Compiz Fusion with GNOME Window Decorator (using M-city themes). ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka Metacity Theme
Not trying to attack you because you are trying to help and I feel want the best for the icon sets and whatnot, but saying I don't like them makes it sound like you're trying to get everyone to tailor the sets to your preference. There is a difference between this and constructive criticism. That said, I think it's just a matter of word choices. Saying something like I think that such and such could be improved in such and such ways because they don't work in such and such ways. Plus we need to remember that just cause someone here on the list doesn't like them, someone else in the world may like them. All that said, I think it's good that we're going through this many rounds of criticism and improvement brainstorming, as it is going to refine them more and more and create a VERY nice set to work with. On 9/21/07, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks better, but the top and bottom 'padding' in theme (distance from text to border) is too small and from close button to the right border is too big. PS: I'll always be honest. Always. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
I don't really see any issues with my 1 user, but Matthias has a better case overall. If I knew how to screenshot at the login stage, i'd do so and post it. On 9/16/07, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I have a working GDM theme now, it mostly uses the work done by Tobias Oelgarte for Avio. If you'd like to try it out, you can add the following file to the System Administration Login Window theme area: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/infinity/FedoraInfinityGDM.tar.gz Give it a try and let me know if you see any issues. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 graphics for marketing
just one quick one that i can think of that will risk negative connotations but i think works well. Fedora: pushing the walls into infinity Yes it puts walls up, but we're pushing them outwards, making new boundaries further out each time. As much as Máirín doesn't prefer, there are some boundaries with each release. Those boundaries are the technologies of the time. In the future, the technology and capabilities will be greater, and when we reach that time, we'll keep forging ahead. Just my $.02 On 9/12/07, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Well, I tried mostly to bait the people here in an useful discussion to get a single slogan for F8 (not a hundred as before) and maybe a concrete list with what graphics are needed. We had a thread on marketing-list a while back about it... I'll go back through it and aggregate all the suggestions and post them in this thread... I remember there were a couple I really thought fit the theme. I know that thread, it ended with no conclusion. Well, let's pick one right now and conclude it. :) Here's the aggregation I promised, I starred the ones I think have the most potential: Slogan Ideas: **-Fedora, an operating system with a limitless power. - Freedom; Simplicity; Technology Edge. Fedora. Your operating system. - Freedom, Simplicity, Collaboration, Ready for the Future. Fedora. Your operating system. - The future of the operating systems is here. Fedora. My choice. - Fedora. The operating system I can call 'mine'. - Fedora: my choice. **- Fedora: Infinite Boundaries **- F8: Unleash your infinite potential **- Infinite Potential - Fedora, The Open Source Freedom, For open Free Minds. - Freedom of Choice. - Infinite Freedom -Diverse Free Voice -Your Voice, Your Future -The Future Is Now **-Infinite Possibilities -Logical System, Logical Future -Voice - Infinity - Future -Beautiful is useful Looking through these I'm seeing a bit of a pattern. We could just do two words... adjective + noun. The adjectives could be: - Infinite - Limitless - Boundless - Unlimited The nouns could be: - Power - Potential - Boundaries - Possibilities Let me tell you what I think we should use based on all of this: Fedora. Infinite Possibilities. Possibilities I think is the best noun. Power has too much emphasis on what you can do technically - a powerful piece of software is not necessarily an easily to use or well-designed piece of software and because we ship GNOME by default I think power is a bit of a clash there. So scratch that. Boundaries kind of focuses on the negative - a boundary is a barrier - we want to focus on more the positive, amazing things we do and will continue to accomplish, so scratch boundaries. Potential makes me think of the phrase never lived up to their potential... it seems to have a connotation to me about what could have been but wasn't. Possibilities, though, seems future and forward- looking - thinking about good things that will happen. Boundless again focuses on a barrier, negative, so scratch that. Same with Unlimited and limitless it focuses on limitations. Infinity is really the only word that doesn't present a negative, and it's also the official word in the official overall slogan of Fedora: Infinity. Freedom. Voice. That gives it another plus. So! How does: Fedora. Infinite Possibilities. sound? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 3 Default Artwork Decision
I'm going to have to go with the Infinity Theme. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About the mascot
I don't think that's a good idea at all, no offence, because Microsoft uses a butterfly a lot, and that's not what we want to associate Fedora with. I'm still torn on the need for a mascot or not, so I don't really have any suggestions in replacement of this. However on the mascot wiki, I did kind of like the humans towards the bottom. On 8/21/07, Karel Boissinot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody thought of using a butterfly for the mascott? I really suck at drawing things so I can't say I have made a sketch, but I got inspired looking at this picture: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/images/3d_bubble_07.svg The reflected logo kinda makes it look like the bottom wings of a butterfly. Anyway, just food for thought Karel ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About the mascot
I think what we need to do first is determine an animal or whatnot that symbolizes what Fedora is about. For instance, we always see owls as wise, and elephants as forgetful, etc. On 8/21/07, Christopher David Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the human mascots are too anime looking. I think a goat (perhaps a mountain goat standing on the top of a mountain of free/open software? but please nothing resembling the GNU logo) or the platypus sound like great ideas to me. The platypus is an extremely fascinating animal. Another suggestion might be an otter? Chris On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 15:12 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: I don't think that's a good idea at all, no offence, because Microsoft uses a butterfly a lot, and that's not what we want to associate Fedora with. I'm still torn on the need for a mascot or not, so I don't really have any suggestions in replacement of this. However on the mascot wiki, I did kind of like the humans towards the bottom. On 8/21/07, Karel Boissinot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody thought of using a butterfly for the mascott? I really suck at drawing things so I can't say I have made a sketch, but I got inspired looking at this picture: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/images/3d_bubble_07.svg The reflected logo kinda makes it look like the bottom wings of a butterfly. Anyway, just food for thought Karel ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Art Team Hacking
What is this exactly? Just everyone getting together the best they can to get a bunch done? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Infinity Update
I honestly like the last one that Mairin did with the rays of light. When I first saw it, the impression I had was that of a ghosted roller coaster track, taking us up and off the wallpaper, as if going into the infinite abyss above. In a lot of ways that's what the chosen theme is about anyway. Taking people to new unknown places. As for the colors that she used, I think the purple isn't bad persay, but based on the experiences that Nicolas posted about, perhaps that gradient should be narrowed to just the top part? I clearly those two colors work good together, but maybe should be more off balance in regards to area they cover. I also like what martin did with the colors for the 4th one, but I think, if anything, the yellow one should have some sort of hint of blue, just for visual tying to previous versions of Fedora. As much as blue isn't wanted as the only color, it is one of our forms of recognition in the open source community. On 8/13/07, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks, I've been playing around with the Fedora Infinity wallpaper this weekend trying to get something I felt really comfortable with because I felt that what we had at the end of round 2 just didn't have the level of polish and 'bling' I think we were hoping for. Anyway this is what I ended up with: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity/Round3Scratch What do you think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
