Announcing FUDCon Toronto 2009
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to the dedicated efforts of some of our ardent fans and friends in the Fedora community in the great nation of Canada, we are heading across the border for the next North American Fedora Users and Developers Conference (FUDCon)! The next FUDCon will happen December 5-7, 2009, in Toronto, Canada at the Seneca @York campus. Over the next few days planners will be setting up more information at the event wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009 As you may know, FUDCon travels around the globe during the year. In the summer we had not just one but *two* separate FUDCon events. One was held in Latin America around the world-famous FISL conference. The other occurred around the equally important LinuxTag event in Berlin, Germany. We have held many North American FUDCons of the past in Boston, Massachusetts, and we wanted to try a different location for this event. Now you might be asking yourself, why are we going north in the winter? Well, as some of you know -- especially people who talk with me and Max Spevack, the Red Hat manager of community architecture -- FUDCon planning is an enormous undertaking for one person. We look at FUDCon partly as something Red Hat can give back to the community a few times a year, beyond resources or people. But we also need to be realize when we need assistance to get FUDCon planned and executed, so we can continue to scale our event efforts. Key community members in the Toronto area had been asking us for some time about holding a FUDCon in Toronto. They were able to provide an ideal location, in terms of size, space, layout, flexibility, and network infrastructure. They also know of our penchant for bringing wifi to its knees anywhere we travel, and planning accordingly! Furthermore, since there's a Red Hat office in Toronto, we can look forward to a core of engineers who will bring their experience and subject matter expertise to FUDCon. Because many of them have not attended a FUDCon before, there should be many fascinating new talks and hackfests happening at this event. There will be more details about FUDCon Toronto 2009 over the next few days -- we will be trying some new things this time out, to make this event as inclusive and appealing as possible. More on that later. For now, I encourage everyone in the US and elsewhere who plans to attend to make sure that you have your passports or other travel documentation ready to go! For those of you in the US, you can find passport information here: http://travel.state.gov/passport/ - -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKitBtrNvJN70RNxcRAgGBAKD7aob2O6wLb49RlhcutAr5kqsUJgCcCaWC uD/xNUTZkQ0ur2fdMxnjVRE= =Yhpe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
Re:Fedora-buildsys-list Digest, Vol 54, Issue 5
Hi, I have a koji server running locally at my workplace. Recently, I am unable to execute some koji cli commands. I get the following error: [kojiad...@linux-dev koji]$ koji add-user kojira ServerOffline: database outage,anyone can help me?Thanks. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Fedora-buildsys-list Digest, Vol 54, Issue 5
Sometimes, it because your postgresql setting have error: on my host, /etc/koji-hub/hub.conf have some info: 3 ## Basic options ## 4 DBName = koji 5 DBUser = koji 6 DBHost = 127.0.0.1 7 DBPass = password for user koji login datebase koji from 127.0.0.1 == good luck. 2009/8/18, lixiao-a lixia...@163.com: Hi, I have a koji server running locally at my workplace. Recently, I am unable to execute some koji cli commands. I get the following error: [kojiad...@linux-dev koji]$ koji add-user kojira ServerOffline: database outage,anyone can help me?Thanks. -- 没有广告的终身免费邮箱,www.yeah.net http://www.yeah.net/?from=footer -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list -- 李建 主页 http://jianlee.ylinux.org msn lijian@gmail.com -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
postgresql-server
I have a server running several applications. They typically have the best support for mysql. Is there a hard reason for postgresql-server over mysql for koji? -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: postgresql-server
On 08/18/2009 11:46 AM, Larry Brigman wrote: I have a server running several applications. They typically have the best support for mysql. Is there a hard reason for postgresql-server over mysql for koji? It hasn't been a priority to support multiple dbs. Postgres was chosen because we placed a high value on data integrity. The tables in Koji use a lot of 'serial' fields (integer fields linked to a sequence). In MySQL, the analog of this is an AUTO_INCREMENT field. It does not appear that this is a perfect analog. In any case, there would have to be a number of code changes due to this. If one were to use MySQL, they would most definitely want to use InnoDB tables, because Koji makes use of many foreign key constraints. Almost every table in Koji's schema has a CHECK clause somewhere in it. MySQL parses these, but /does not enforce them/. The types of data corruption that would result from entries that violate these checks would be quite insidious. I also expect there would be a number of subtle issues due to other behavior differences between the databases. With MySQL's reputation for quietly rolling along despite serious errors, you might not notice until the db was full of corruptions. So short answer: non-trivial amount of work to implement, even more for proper testing, questionable return for that effort. Running a Koji server is not intended to be lightweight. I don't think the postgres requirement is unreasonable. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Visiting webpage causes ~hard lock - round 2!
On 08/18/2009 06:39 AM, Dr. Diesel wrote: This happened a little while ago: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498131 Seems to be happening again (tried 3x, same result) on a different website and most likely something different but could someone please confirm before I BZ this? Please save your work and visit (tech website): http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450page=13 http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450page=13 Screen freezes, mouse has jerky movement, vt switch fails. F11.i368 all updates as of today, nothing good in /var/log/messages No problems here. My hardware profile http://smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_de7ca5e0-60e7-458b-96d7-961c2c150cf7 Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10
Am Montag, den 10.08.2009, 10:15 -0600 schrieb Kevin Fenzi: cwickert:BADURL:glista-0.4.tar.gz:glista works with spectool cwickert:BADURL:gwget-1.0.1.tar.bz2:gwget 404, new version, fixed. cwickert:BADURL:lxde-settings-daemon-0.4.tar.bz2:lxde-settings-daemon 301, due to sf changes I guess. lxde-settings-deamon will be orphaned soon, because it will become part of lxsession. cwickert:BADURL:termit-2.2.0.tar.bz2:termit works with spectool cwickert:BADURL:thunar-volman-0.3.80.tar.bz2:thunar-volman 404, Xfce download archive reorganization. cwickert:BADURL:timer-applet-2.1.2.tar.gz:gnome-applet-timer works spectool, SF.net cwickert:BADURL:xfburn-0.4.2.tar.bz2:xfburn 404, Xfce download archive reorganization. Regards, Christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Visiting webpage causes ~hard lock - round 2!
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Garry T. Williams gtwilli...@gmail.comwrote: On Monday 17 August 2009 21:09:05 Dr. Diesel wrote: This happened a little while ago: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498131 Seems to be happening again (tried 3x, same result) on a different website and most likely something different but could someone please confirm before I BZ this? Please save your work and visit (tech website): http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450page=13 Screen freezes, mouse has jerky movement, vt switch fails. F11.i368 all updates as of today, nothing good in /var/log/messages I can confirm this. Video: Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff02 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) -- Garry T. Williams --- +1 678 656-4579 Gary, thanks for confirming. This one appears selective! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517987 Sam is probably right though, I should have sent this to fedora-list, my bad, way too many lists! -- projecthuh.com All of my bits are free, are yours? Fedoraproject.org I'd rather have dead offenders than repeat offenders - Ted Nugent -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Kernel 2.6.29 for F10
Hi Is there a reason that since longer time 2.6.29-Kernels for Fedora 10 landing in Updates-testing followed with 2.6.27-Builds in the meantime? On machines with kmods this is a real problem because yum detetects the kmod for 2.6.27-Build and wants to install the 2.6.27 kernel which conflicts with the installed one I use the 2.6.29 since months in the meantime, F11 has it since the release and i do not realize why F10 does not get him -- Reindl Harald the lounge interactive design GmbH A-1060 Vienna | Hofmühlgasse 17 software-development / cms-solutions phone:+43 (1) 595 3999 33 cellular: +43 (676) 40 221 40 icq: 154546673 mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net http://www.thelounge.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rawhide report: 20090818 changes
Compose started at Tue Aug 18 06:15:04 UTC 2009 Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 0 Broken deps for i386 -- 389-ds-1.1.3-4.fc12.noarch requires 389-ds-admin R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.i586 requires openmpi-libs asterisk-fax-1.6.1-0.24.rc1.fc12.i686 requires libspandsp.so.1 bigboard-0.6.4-12.fc12.i686 requires mugshot = 0:1.1.90-1 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) cluttermm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 cluttermm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.9) dap-hdf4_handler-3.7.9-2.fc11.i586 requires libdap.so.9 dap-hdf4_handler-3.7.9-2.fc11.i586 requires libdapserver.so.6 entertainer-0.4.2-5.fc12.noarch requires pyclutter-cairo octave-forge-20080831-10.fc12.i686 requires octave(api) = 0:api-v32 perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader-0.04006-4.fc12.noarch requires perl(DBIX::Class) php-layers-menu-3.2.0-0.2.rc.fc12.noarch requires php-pear(HTML_Template_PHPLIB) plplot-octave-5.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires octave(api) = 0:api-v32 ppl-yap-0.10.2-5.fc12.i686 requires libYap.so python-repoze-what-quickstart-1.0-2.fc12.noarch requires python-repoze-who-plugins-sql qtparted-0.4.5-19.fc11.i586 requires libparted-1.8.so.8 rubygem-main-2.8.4-3.fc12.noarch requires rubygem(fattr) = 0:1.0.3 sems-1.1.1-2.fc12.i586 requires libspandsp.so.1 sems-g722-1.1.1-2.fc12.i586 requires libspandsp.so.1 sems-gsm-1.1.1-2.fc12.i586 requires libspandsp.so.1 sems-speex-1.1.1-2.fc12.i586 requires libspandsp.so.1 serpentine-0.9-5.fc12.noarch requires gnome-python2-nautilus-cd-burner showimg-pgsql-0.9.5-22.fc11.i586 requires libpqxx-2.6.8.so sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3)(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libc.so.6()(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libm.so.6()(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libstdc++.so.6()(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4)(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit) thunderbird-lightning-1.0-0.8.20090513hg.fc12.i686 requires thunderbird 0:3.0-3.6.b4 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-ds-1.1.3-4.fc12.noarch requires 389-ds-admin R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.x86_64 requires openmpi-libs asterisk-fax-1.6.1-0.24.rc1.fc12.x86_64 requires libspandsp.so.1()(64bit) bigboard-0.6.4-12.fc12.x86_64 requires mugshot = 0:1.1.90-1 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0()(64bit) clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) cluttermm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 cluttermm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) cluttermm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586
Re: Kernel 2.6.29 for F10
Reindl Harald wrote: Hi Is there a reason that since longer time 2.6.29-Kernels for Fedora 10 landing in Updates-testing followed with 2.6.27-Builds in the meantime? On machines with kmods this is a real problem because yum detetects the kmod for 2.6.27-Build and wants to install the 2.6.27 kernel which conflicts with the installed one I use the 2.6.29 since months in the meantime, F11 has it since the release and i do not realize why F10 does not get him I've been personally using 2.6.29.4-75 successfully for a while (uptime currently is 32 days), so I join you in asking why there are no recent kernels for f10. On this route, why no 2.6.30? There is a driver I need which is included in = 2.6.30. These days upstream 2.6.31 is almost released... BTW -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Kernel 2.6.29 for F10
On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Hi Is there a reason that since longer time 2.6.29-Kernels for Fedora 10 landing in Updates-testing followed with 2.6.27-Builds in the meantime? On machines with kmods this is a real problem because yum detetects the kmod for 2.6.27-Build and wants to install the 2.6.27 kernel which conflicts with the installed one I use the 2.6.29 since months in the meantime, F11 has it since the release and i do not realize why F10 does not get him I tried to ask this on the fedora kernel list and the moderator never approved the message. I too would like to see F10 move up to 2.6.29+ prior to end-of-life. joe -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
If you've got a moment for some last-minute help... We (Marketing) will be freezing the F12 talking points list today, and are still somewhat light in the what makes Fedora awesome for admins and developers? categories. Right now we have libguestfs and kvm improvements for admins and maybe moblin for developers, but there must be more - and more reasons why they're awesome (why *is* libguestfs something that makes admins happy?). We figured you would know. The features list is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/FeatureList. If you've got a moment, please take a look at that, then edit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_talking_points with the things that are making you (as admins and devels) happy about F12 coming out. Help us promote the heck out of your work. ;) Thanks! --Mel PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put the call out here much earlier. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Kernel 2.6.29 for F10
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:13:10AM -0500, Joe Nall wrote: On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Hi Is there a reason that since longer time 2.6.29-Kernels for Fedora 10 landing in Updates-testing followed with 2.6.27-Builds in the meantime? On machines with kmods this is a real problem because yum detetects the kmod for 2.6.27-Build and wants to install the 2.6.27 kernel which conflicts with the installed one I use the 2.6.29 since months in the meantime, F11 has it since the release and i do not realize why F10 does not get him I tried to ask this on the fedora kernel list and the moderator never approved the message. Odd, I don't recall seeing it, and there's no non-spam messages in the queue right now. I too would like to see F10 move up to 2.6.29+ prior to end-of-life. In days of old, we were able to get rebases out pretty quickly after their upstream release. These days, we're hindered by the kernel modesetting stuff we're carrying. It's closely tied to the userspace X drivers, and isn't easy to retrofit to a different kernel. One of the reasons we haven't pushed them as proper updates is that getting the regressions fixed is pretty time consuming, and the limited X/KMS manpower we have is better focused on making the F12 stuff work right, and getting it upstream. I really can't wait for the day that it all gets upstream, and we can get back to the old routine of rebasing. Until then, we're kinda stuck. Dave -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
On 08/18/2009 09:00 PM, Mel Chua wrote: PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put the call out here much earlier. Is there a particular reason today is the last day instead of some date closer to the release? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put the call out here much earlier. Is there a particular reason today is the last day instead of some date closer to the release? We need to brief Ambassadors on Talking Points at Beta release (9/22) so they need to be complete by then, so we have to freeze the list asap to give us enough time to find writers, and give the writers enough time to write them. (http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-marketing-tasks.html) (Feel free to push back if this schedule sounds unreasonable, btw; it probably could use some patches for the next cycle in terms of having more time for getting dev feedback.) --Mel -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
On 08/18/2009 10:15 PM, Mel Chua wrote: PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put the call out here much earlier. Is there a particular reason today is the last day instead of some date closer to the release? We need to brief Ambassadors on Talking Points at Beta release (9/22) so they need to be complete by then, so we have to freeze the list asap to give us enough time to find writers, and give the writers enough time to write them. (http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-marketing-tasks.html) (Feel free to push back if this schedule sounds unreasonable, btw; it probably could use some patches for the next cycle in terms of having more time for getting dev feedback.) The schedule itself might have been fine but it still looks rather early to me. If you want to collect feedback from developers, one day is definitely not going to be enough. Atleast three days or so needs to be provided and you usually need more than one reminder to get as much feedback as you can. Otherwise you are going to end up with a rather small list which is not meaningful. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
Peter Robinson said the following on 08/18/2009 09:42 AM Pacific Time: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Mel Chuam...@redhat.com wrote: If you've got a moment for some last-minute help... We (Marketing) will be freezing the F12 talking points list today, and are still somewhat light in the what makes Fedora awesome for admins and developers? categories. Right now we have libguestfs and kvm improvements for admins and maybe moblin for developers, but there must be more - and more reasons why they're awesome (why *is* libguestfs something that makes admins happy?). We figured you would know. Please remove moblin. Its not a feature. Its been removed from the Feature list for F-12 (although I'm not sure why). Peter FESCo dropped it because it was not considered ready. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-07/fedora-meeting.2009-08-07-17.00.html -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
On 08/18/2009 10:12 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Mel Chuam...@redhat.com wrote: If you've got a moment for some last-minute help... We (Marketing) will be freezing the F12 talking points list today, and are still somewhat light in the what makes Fedora awesome for admins and developers? categories. Right now we have libguestfs and kvm improvements for admins and maybe moblin for developers, but there must be more - and more reasons why they're awesome (why *is* libguestfs something that makes admins happy?). We figured you would know. Please remove moblin. Its not a feature. Its been removed from the Feature list for F-12 (although I'm not sure why). If you are the feature owner and do not know why it is being dropped, the meeting mins when it was decided by FESCo should have some rationale. If not, please ask again. The work is definitely most appreciated anyway. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
(http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-marketing-tasks.html) (Feel free to push back if this schedule sounds unreasonable, btw; it probably could use some patches for the next cycle in terms of having more time for getting dev feedback.) The schedule itself might have been fine but it still looks rather early to me. If you want to collect feedback from developers, one day is definitely not going to be enough. Atleast three days or so needs to be provided and you usually need more than one reminder to get as much feedback as you can. Otherwise you are going to end up with a rather small list which is not meaningful. Yep. I agree completely - time for developer/admin feedback isn't built into the marketing schedule, but should be. I'll make sure this gets changed for F13. (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Marketing_F12_schedule) Thanks for the feedback on feedback. :) --Mel -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 08/18/2009 10:12 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Mel Chuam...@redhat.com wrote: If you've got a moment for some last-minute help... We (Marketing) will be freezing the F12 talking points list today, and are still somewhat light in the what makes Fedora awesome for admins and developers? categories. Right now we have libguestfs and kvm improvements for admins and maybe moblin for developers, but there must be more - and more reasons why they're awesome (why *is* libguestfs something that makes admins happy?). We figured you would know. Please remove moblin. Its not a feature. Its been removed from the Feature list for F-12 (although I'm not sure why). If you are the feature owner and do not know why it is being dropped, the meeting mins when it was decided by FESCo should have some rationale. If not, please ask again. The fesco meeting notes posted to the list are one of the hardest things I've ever tried to read. I'm not sure if there's a nice annotated version somewhere else but I've never had much luck searching the wiki using anything other than google. Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/18/2009 10:15 PM, Mel Chua wrote: PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put the call out here much earlier. Is there a particular reason today is the last day instead of some date closer to the release? We need to brief Ambassadors on Talking Points at Beta release (9/22) so they need to be complete by then, so we have to freeze the list asap to give us enough time to find writers, and give the writers enough time to write them. (http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-marketing-tasks.html) (Feel free to push back if this schedule sounds unreasonable, btw; it probably could use some patches for the next cycle in terms of having more time for getting dev feedback.) The schedule itself might have been fine but it still looks rather early to me. If you want to collect feedback from developers, one day is definitely not going to be enough. Atleast three days or so needs to be provided and you usually need more than one reminder to get as much feedback as you can. Otherwise you are going to end up with a rather small list which is not meaningful. To a first approximation, the relevant information should already be in the feature pages, no ? I don't think it is wise to establish the feature process as painfully as we've done over the last few releases, only to then start new, different initiatives to collect marketing talking points... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/18/2009 10:15 PM, Mel Chua wrote: PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put the call out here much earlier. Is there a particular reason today is the last day instead of some date closer to the release? We need to brief Ambassadors on Talking Points at Beta release (9/22) so they need to be complete by then, so we have to freeze the list asap to give us enough time to find writers, and give the writers enough time to write them. (http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-marketing-tasks.html) (Feel free to push back if this schedule sounds unreasonable, btw; it probably could use some patches for the next cycle in terms of having more time for getting dev feedback.) The schedule itself might have been fine but it still looks rather early to me. If you want to collect feedback from developers, one day is definitely not going to be enough. Atleast three days or so needs to be provided and you usually need more than one reminder to get as much feedback as you can. Otherwise you are going to end up with a rather small list which is not meaningful. To a first approximation, the relevant information should already be in the feature pages, no ? I don't think it is wise to establish the feature process as painfully as we've done over the last few releases, only to then start new, different initiatives to collect marketing talking points... I think the point is to take the technical feature list and sort of run a filter around it so it's more general purpose / markety. Additionally I don't see any need to tie talking points and marketing directly to the feature list in a 1:1 because we may miss things. -Mike -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:15:27PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/18/2009 10:15 PM, Mel Chua wrote: PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put the call out here much earlier. Is there a particular reason today is the last day instead of some date closer to the release? We need to brief Ambassadors on Talking Points at Beta release (9/22) so they need to be complete by then, so we have to freeze the list asap to give us enough time to find writers, and give the writers enough time to write them. (http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-marketing-tasks.html) (Feel free to push back if this schedule sounds unreasonable, btw; it probably could use some patches for the next cycle in terms of having more time for getting dev feedback.) The schedule itself might have been fine but it still looks rather early to me. If you want to collect feedback from developers, one day is definitely not going to be enough. Atleast three days or so needs to be provided and you usually need more than one reminder to get as much feedback as you can. Otherwise you are going to end up with a rather small list which is not meaningful. To a first approximation, the relevant information should already be in the feature pages, no ? I don't think it is wise to establish the feature process as painfully as we've done over the last few releases, only to then start new, different initiatives to collect marketing talking points... The talking points really do come from the feature pages, and to that end I revisited the feature list to pull out a couple features that are comprehensible and interesting for developers, and added them to the developer-centric talking points. The list for each audience (desktop users, sysadmins, developers) is short, as it should be. We do have entries in the list now, although we'll be fleshing them out with more descriptive information over the next few days. The purpose of the talking points is to call out specific features, so Ambassadors and other people can explain what they are to a variety of audiences, and why they're important in terms of advancing FOSS. To do this, we develop additional material like podcast and print interviews with the people responsible for or involved with the features. Developing that material takes time and energy so it behooves us to get an early start, shortly after feature freeze since the list is complete at that point. The list is short so that we can concentrate on the most compelling features from the audience's standpoint. So yes, the feature pages have a lot from which we can pull at this point. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:27:53PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/18/2009 10:15 PM, Mel Chua wrote: PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put the call out here much earlier. Is there a particular reason today is the last day instead of some date closer to the release? We need to brief Ambassadors on Talking Points at Beta release (9/22) so they need to be complete by then, so we have to freeze the list asap to give us enough time to find writers, and give the writers enough time to write them. (http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-marketing-tasks.html) (Feel free to push back if this schedule sounds unreasonable, btw; it probably could use some patches for the next cycle in terms of having more time for getting dev feedback.) The schedule itself might have been fine but it still looks rather early to me. If you want to collect feedback from developers, one day is definitely not going to be enough. Atleast three days or so needs to be provided and you usually need more than one reminder to get as much feedback as you can. Otherwise you are going to end up with a rather small list which is not meaningful. To a first approximation, the relevant information should already be in the feature pages, no ? I don't think it is wise to establish the feature process as painfully as we've done over the last few releases, only to then start new, different initiatives to collect marketing talking points... I think the point is to take the technical feature list and sort of run a filter around it so it's more general purpose / markety. Additionally I don't see any need to tie talking points and marketing directly to the feature list in a 1:1 because we may miss things. That's fairly dead on, Mike. We can include an item beyond the feature list if there's a compelling story to tell the appropriate audience about that item. These talking points become the basis for Ambassadors to talk to their local communities, I often refer to them in interviews with press, and so forth. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Trouble formatting flash disk
Casimiro de Almeida Barreto wrote: Hello, I have a pendrive (flash memory) which lists in /proc/bus/usb/devices as: ... And I've tried to format it as ext2 (so I can backup my home directory). It happens that no matter what I do (and I've tried almost everything) it formats but no matter what I do when I record a large file (2GBytes) it generates file system inconsistencies. First I thought that perhaps the device was defective. But when I try to write and read it, everything seems to be OK. It even passes badblock -w ... Any suggestions on what may be wrong? Could you take this to the linux-ext4 list? It'd be the more appropriate place for the discussion. It'd be good to know the details of the errors you see, too. Thanks, -Eric Best regards, CdAB -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Trouble formatting flash disk
Em 18-08-2009 15:13, Eric Sandeen escreveu:
(...)
Could you take this to the linux-ext4 list? It'd be the more
appropriate place for the discussion.
It'd be good to know the details of the errors you see, too.
Thanks,
-Eric
Best regards,
CdAB
Yes, if I know where I can subscribe this list.
Besides, when I format the device as Fat (F16 or F32) it works properly
only if I disable multibyte char encoding for directories (by doing:
LANG=pt_BR.ISO8859-1 and LC_ALL=pt_BR.ISO8859-1. That should be OK but
system should convert file names to proper encoding.
When I format as ext-2 and create a large file, after writing the file I
can't write anything else. If I unmount the fs, I am able to mount again
and even read the file, but I'm not able to write anything else. But if
I fsck it, I'm warned that system was uncleanly unmounted. Several
errors appear (I'll repeat the procedure and log the errors).
Basically what I do is:
# FILE_NAME_PREFIX=`date +%y%m%d%H%M`
# tar cjf - /home /opt /usr/local | gpg -c -a -z0 --cipher-algo=aes256
-o /media/kingston/${FILE_NAME_PREFIX}.asc
# md5sum ${FILE_NAME_PREFIX}.asc ${FILE_NAME_PREFIX}.md5 (this won't
execute - cannot write to device).
But if I do:
# df -m /dev/sdd1
it is still plenty of free memory (64GBytes minus about 10GBytes)...
One thing I was thinking is that this flash memory stores data in blocks
of 512 bytes and minimum ext2 blocking is 1024 bytes...
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Re: Trouble formatting flash disk
Casimiro de Almeida Barreto wrote: Em 18-08-2009 15:13, Eric Sandeen escreveu: (...) Could you take this to the linux-ext4 list? It'd be the more appropriate place for the discussion. It'd be good to know the details of the errors you see, too. Thanks, -Eric Best regards, CdAB Yes, if I know where I can subscribe this list. http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-ext4 -Eric -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
KDE-SIG weekly report (34/2009)
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE Summary = Week: 34/2009 Time: 2009-08-18 14:00 UTC Meeting page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-08-18 Meeting log: http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dc/KDE-SIG-2009-08-18.txt -- = Participants = * JaroslavReznik * KevinKofler * LukasTinkl * RexDieter * SebastianVahl * StevenParrish * ThanNgo -- = Agenda = * add yum-presto to KDE live images as default? (see [1]) * PolicyKit 1 Authentication Agent * KDE 4.3.0 update status = Summary = o yum-presto as default on KDE live images?: * yum-presto was recently added to the GNOME (a.k.a. Desktop) live images to be used by default. * It will also be added to the KDE live images. o PolicyKit 1 Authentication Agent: * The Polkit1 Authentification agent is not ready to use with KPackageKit. * Although PackageKit-qt shouldn't need to be updated (up to RichardHughes) only a ported KPackageKit is working. * With the current KPackageKit gnome-authentification-agent is also not working. * A newer KPackageKit (with updated method calls) will be released by the end of the week. With it gnome-authentification-agent should be working. * But a KDE based authentification agent would still be a good thing. o KDE 4.3.0 update status: * The received feedback was quite good so far. * An updated selinux-policy [2] is needed to be pushed to stable with/before KDE 4.3.0 to don't fail suspend to ram in enforcing mode. (#516824). * It also needs to be checked if F-10 is also affected by this. * Two known regressions are left: - #516445: Show Dashboard Shortcut (ctrl-f12) doesn't work after upgrade to kde 4.3.0. - #518000: suspend/hibernate from menu not working after update to KDE 4.3 * The first one needs a kconf_update script to be written. (plasma binary was renamed to plasma-desktop). * Updated extragear packages are already in updates-testing for F-10 and F-11 and will hit Rawhide after the freeze. * akonadi has become a direct dependency of kdebase-workspace at compile time. * We'll need to investigate if akonadi is really an optional package and if we a) could split the dependency into a subpackage of kdebase-workspace and b) disable the requirement for other packages without loosing functionality. -- = Next Meeting = http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-08-25 -- = Links = [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009- August/msg00932.html [2] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-8536 [3] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-8551 [4] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-8522 = Buglist = https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516445 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516824 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518000 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
2009/8/18 Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:35:37AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/26/2009 06:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, Can we make it a default in comps for Rawhide? Rahul No answer here after weeks. After some lengthy discussion with rel-eng team in irc, not much care either way. Talked to desktop team and based on their recommendation, I have added yum-presto to the GNOME Desktop group by default. If rel-eng wants to add it a base group for the DVD image, feel free to do so. Spin owners - likewise. Thanks. I've been using yum-presto since before F11 came out, and it is great. +1 to installing it by default in F12. FWIW, I have also experienced zero problems with it and believe it would be better enabled by default, retaining the option to disable. Updates would get done faster and mirrors would be able to cope with more connections, especially in the first push after release day... :) -- Christopher Brown -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Spaletajspal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Christopher Brownsnecklif...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I have also experienced zero problems with it and believe it would be better enabled by default, retaining the option to disable. Updates would get done faster and mirrors would be able to cope with more connections, especially in the first push after release day... :) Only potential side effect is cpu consumption that the delta unpacking process requires. User on single core systems may notice that unless presto renices itself down in priority. Most users are using packagekit so the update process is reniced to 10 and the io prio is set to idle. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:47 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: Only potential side effect is cpu consumption that the delta unpacking process requires. User on single core systems may notice that unless presto renices itself down in priority. The hit on slow disks is pretty bad too, even non-slow disks. With a local mirror the time to re-make the deltas is far longer than the time to just pull down the entire packages. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Troubleshooting pendrive ext2fs
Hello, I've trouble creating an ext2/ext3/ext4 file system in a 64GBytes pendrive. The device appears at /proc/bus/usb/devices as: T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=04 Cnt=01 Dev#= 4 Spd=480 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=1043 ProdID=8012 Rev= 1.00 S: Manufacturer=Generic S: Product=Flash Disk C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=100mA I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms It's partioned as: Disk /dev/sdd: 67.1 GB, 67108864512 bytes 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 64000 cylinders Units = cilindros of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes Disk identifier: 0x4a26a3ed Dispositivo Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1 1 6400065535984 83 Linux And raw partition table data is: Disk /dev/sdd: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 64000 cylinders Nr AF Hd Sec Cyl Hd Sec Cyl Start Size ID 1 00 1 10 63 32 1023 32 131071968 83 2 00 0 00 0 00 0 0 00 3 00 0 00 0 00 0 0 00 4 00 0 00 0 00 0 0 00 Disk was formatted with the following command: [r...@localhost ~]# mkfs.ext2 -L kingston -M /media/kingston -O large_file,extent /dev/sdd1 mke2fs 1.41.4 (27-Jan-2009) Filesystem label=kingston OS type: Linux Block size=4096 (log=2) Fragment size=4096 (log=2) 4096000 inodes, 16383996 blocks 819199 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user First data block=0 Maximum filesystem blocks=0 500 block groups 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group 8192 inodes per group Superblock backups stored on blocks: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632, 2654208, 4096000, 7962624, 11239424 Writing inode tables: done Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done This filesystem will be automatically checked every 33 mounts or 180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override. And then checked: # fsck -f -v /dev/sdd1 Resulting in: [r...@localhost ~]# fsck -v -f /dev/sdd1 fsck 1.41.4 (27-Jan-2009) e2fsck 1.41.4 (27-Jan-2009) Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity Pass 4: Checking reference counts Pass 5: Checking group summary information Block bitmap differences: +(32768--34306) +(65536--66049) +(98304--99842) +(131072--131585) +(163840--165378) +(196608--197121) +(229376--230914) +(262144--262657) +(294912--296450) +(327680--328193) +(360448--360961) +(393216--393729) +(425984--426497) +(458752--459265) +(491520--492033) +(524288--524801) +(557056--557569) +(589824--590337) +(622592--623105) +(655360--655873) +(688128--688641) +(720896--721409) +(753664--754177) +(786432--786945) +(819200--820738) +(851968--852481) +(884736--886274) +(917504--918017) +(950272--950785) +(983040--983553) +(1015808--1016321) +(1048576--1049089) +(1081344--1081857) +(1114112--1114625) +(1146880--1147393) +(1179648--1180161) +(1212416--1212929) +(1245184--1245697) +(1277952--1278465) +(1310720--1311233) +(1343488--1344001) +(1376256--1376769) +(1409024--1409537) +(1441792--1442305) +(1474560--1475073) +(1507328--1507841) +(1540096--1540609) +(1572864--1573377) +(1605632--1607170) +(1638400--1638913) +(1671168--1671681) +(1703936--1704449) +(1736704--1737217) +(1769472--1769985) +(1802240--1802753) +(1835008--1835521) +(1867776--1868289) +(1900544--1901057) +(1933312--1933825) +(1966080--1966593) +(1998848--1999361) +(2031616--2032129) +(2064384--2064897) +(2097152--2097665) +(2129920--2130433) +(2162688--2163201) +(2195456--2195969) +(2228224--2228737) +(2260992--2261505) +(2293760--2294273) +(2326528--2327041) +(2359296--2359809) +(2392064--2392577) +(2424832--2425345) +(2457600--2458113) +(2490368--2490881) +(2523136--2523649) +(2555904--2556417) +(2588672--2589185) +(2621440--2621953) +(2654208--2655746) +(2686976--2687489) +(2719744--2720257) +(2752512--2753025) +(2785280--2785793) +(2818048--2818561) +(2850816--2851329) +(2883584--2884097) +(2916352--2916865) +(2949120--2949633) +(2981888--2982401) +(3014656--3015169) +(3047424--3047937) +(3080192--3080705) +(3112960--3113473) +(3145728--3146241) +(3178496--3179009) +(3211264--3211777) +(3244032--3244545) +(3276800--3277313) +(3309568--3310081) +(3342336--3342849) +(3375104--3375617) +(3407872--3408385) +(3440640--3441153) +(3473408--3473921) +(3506176--3506689) +(3538944--3539457) +(3571712--3572225) +(3604480--3604993) +(3637248--3637761) +(3670016--3670529) +(3702784--3703297) +(3735552--3736065) +(3768320--3768833) +(3801088--3801601) +(3833856--3834369) +(3866624--3867137) +(3899392--3899905) +(3932160--3932673) +(3964928--3965441) +(3997696--3998209) +(4030464--4030977) +(4063232--4063745) +(4096000--4097538) +(4128768--4129281) +(4161536--4162049) +(4194304--4194817) +(4227072--4227585)
glibc error reports go to the bit bucket in koji
I've been poking away at the mysql crashes I mentioned a few days ago, and have just realized something that explains why I've been at such a loss to interpret the failure reports from koji. It seems that what has been getting triggered is glibc's malloc-error aborts, the ones that look like *** glibc detected *** /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap: free(): invalid pointer: 0x01dc6eb0 *** === Backtrace: = /lib64/libc.so.6[0x309a275a96] /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/libmysql_r/.libs/libmysqlclient_r.so.16(my_thread_end+0x62)[0x7fb1910b9612] /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap(run_task+0x2df)[0x4033ef] /lib64/libpthread.so.0[0x309ae0686a] /lib64/libc.so.6(clone+0x6d)[0x309a2de39d] === Memory map: 0040-00408000 r-xp fd:01 1522370 /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap 00608000-0060a000 rw-p 8000 fd:01 1522370 /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap .. etc etc .. **The build logs from koji do not contain this rather critical information**. I haven't dug into the glibc sources, but what it looks like on my own machine is that these reports go to /dev/tty not to stderr (and thus not into any log file). I will not presume to question the sanity of the /dev/tty default, but surely this is a *completely* undesirable behavior within the koji environment. Can't we fix things so that such reports show up in the build.log? regards, tom lane -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jesse Keatingjkeat...@redhat.com wrote: The hit on slow disks is pretty bad too, even non-slow disks. With a local mirror the time to re-make the deltas is far longer than the time to just pull down the entire packages. Time isn't the only metric...people may also be concerned about metered bandwidth. CPU overchurn we can limit via process priority..but finding a heuristic to determine what too slow means when it comes to disk io versus bandwidth is probably something we can't do. -jefspeaking of metered bandwidth..I need to remember to work from barnes and nobles instead of working from home this winter..so i can steal power, wireless and a nice warm firespaleta -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: glibc error reports go to the bit bucket in koji
On 08/18/2009 06:14 PM, Tom Lane wrote: I've been poking away at the mysql crashes I mentioned a few days ago, and have just realized something that explains why I've been at such a loss to interpret the failure reports from koji. It seems that what has been getting triggered is glibc's malloc-error aborts, the ones that look like *** glibc detected *** /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap: free(): invalid pointer: 0x01dc6eb0 *** === Backtrace: = /lib64/libc.so.6[0x309a275a96] /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/libmysql_r/.libs/libmysqlclient_r.so.16(my_thread_end+0x62)[0x7fb1910b9612] /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap(run_task+0x2df)[0x4033ef] /lib64/libpthread.so.0[0x309ae0686a] /lib64/libc.so.6(clone+0x6d)[0x309a2de39d] === Memory map: 0040-00408000 r-xp fd:01 1522370 /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap 00608000-0060a000 rw-p 8000 fd:01 1522370 /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap .. etc etc .. **The build logs from koji do not contain this rather critical information**. I haven't dug into the glibc sources, but what it looks like on my own machine is that these reports go to /dev/tty not to stderr (and thus not into any log file). I will not presume to question the sanity of the /dev/tty default, but surely this is a *completely* undesirable behavior within the koji environment. Can't we fix things so that such reports show up in the build.log? This is more of a mock issue, since mock is responsible for capturing the output of the build process and directing it to build.log, which koji simply stores. Is this reproduceable in mock on a local machine? How would mock go about capturing output sent directly to /dev/tty? Could we get away with hard/sym-linking it to /dev/stderr? Does this have the potential to break other things? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: glibc error reports go to the bit bucket in koji
IMHO koji (and mock for that matter) ought to be running the builds inside a captive pty whose ouytput it logs anyway, even if they redirect everything. You never know what crazy nonsense some package is going to try. You can put LIBC_FATAL_STDERR_=1 in the environment to get those messages to stderr instead of /dev/tty. setuid programs will still use /dev/tty. Or, it would use stderr by default if there was no /dev/tty. If you're not going to capture the tty output, then you really should disassociate from the tty (setsid) so /dev/tty does not work at all. I'd call the failure to do one or the other of these a bug in mock or koji. Thanks, Roland -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: glibc error reports go to the bit bucket in koji
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 06:14:20PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: I've been poking away at the mysql crashes I mentioned a few days ago, and have just realized something that explains why I've been at such a loss to interpret the failure reports from koji. It seems that what has been getting triggered is glibc's malloc-error aborts, the ones that look like *** glibc detected *** /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap: free(): invalid pointer: 0x01dc6eb0 *** === Backtrace: = /lib64/libc.so.6[0x309a275a96] /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/libmysql_r/.libs/libmysqlclient_r.so.16(my_thread_end+0x62)[0x7fb1910b9612] /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap(run_task+0x2df)[0x4033ef] /lib64/libpthread.so.0[0x309ae0686a] /lib64/libc.so.6(clone+0x6d)[0x309a2de39d] === Memory map: 0040-00408000 r-xp fd:01 1522370 /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap 00608000-0060a000 rw-p 8000 fd:01 1522370 /home/tgl/rpmwork/BUILD/mysql-5.1.37/client/.libs/lt-mysqlslap .. etc etc .. **The build logs from koji do not contain this rather critical information**. I haven't dug into the glibc sources, but what it looks like on my own machine is that these reports go to /dev/tty not to stderr (and thus not into any log file). One of koji/mock/rpm could export LIBC_FATAL_STDERR_=1 in the environment to force this to go to stdout for non-setuid/setgid processes. Jakub -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: glibc error reports go to the bit bucket in koji
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:36 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: IMHO koji (and mock for that matter) ought to be running the builds inside a captive pty whose ouytput it logs anyway, even if they redirect everything. You never know what crazy nonsense some package is going to try. How does one setup one of these things? -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: glibc error reports go to the bit bucket in koji
How does one setup one of these things? Since I assume you are implementing it in Python, you might have to ask, you know, someone who knows Python. I don't, but I have a web browser. I even have locate '*python*pty*'. So maybe: import pty (pid, fd) = pty.fork() or pty.spawn(...) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 14:17 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: -jefspeaking of metered bandwidth..I need to remember to work from barnes and nobles instead of working from home this winter..so i can steal power, wireless and a nice warm firespaleta Nice warm fire? you're going to burn all the books? :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: glibc error reports go to the bit bucket in koji
Mike Bonnet mi...@redhat.com writes: On 08/18/2009 06:14 PM, Tom Lane wrote: **The build logs from koji do not contain this rather critical information**. I haven't dug into the glibc sources, but what it looks like on my own machine is that these reports go to /dev/tty not to stderr (and thus not into any log file). This is more of a mock issue, since mock is responsible for capturing the output of the build process and directing it to build.log, which koji simply stores. Is this reproduceable in mock on a local machine? I think so, but the last few days are kind of a haze of irreproducible crashes :-(. And it was only just now that I realized that the logs showing mysql terminating for no apparent reason looked exactly like my stdout/stderr captures from terminal sessions that included glibc reports. I don't have any way to prove that those sessions actually included some glibc output that I never saw ... it just seems pretty likely. Anyway, given other comments, it seems clear that (1) glibc does send these things to /dev/tty by default, and (2) nothing in the koji environment is doing anything to capture such output. regards, tom lane -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
F12 Feature Status Requested
Greetings Feature Owners, The Alpha Release of Fedora 12 is scheduled for public availability one week from today on Tuesday, August 25, 2009. As a result of our announcements around this release many journalists and other people curious to find out what's on the way for Fedora 12 will come to read your feature page. The features listed below (which are not 100% complete) and have not been updated in the last two weeks. Please update your feature page by next Tuesday, August 25, 2009 so we can provide people with the latest and greatest information about your feature! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Dracut https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/FCoE https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KDE43 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/liblvm https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PowerManagementF12 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Ovirt_Node https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemTapEclipseGUI https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XZRpmPayloads https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support If nothing has changed on your feature page as it currently stands, simply update the Last updated date to the current date so we'll know you've been there. REMINDER: all features must be 100% complete at Final Freeze, currently scheduled for Tuesday, September 29, 2009. Thank you for your help and contributing to next great release of Fedora! John p.s. Individual feature owners have also been bcc'd on this message ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Updated Fedora 12 Schedule--Final Release Date 2009-11-10
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Re: yum-presto plugin by default
I would hold off on the default thing. I have found that it has played havoc with intel video drivers and NetworkManager. I do not know how but for me it was a pain in the neck. All I know is that after I re-installed and upgraded I have had no problems -1 to installing it by default in F12. Steven On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:40 +0100, Christopher Brown wrote: 2009/8/18 Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:35:37AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/26/2009 06:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, Can we make it a default in comps for Rawhide? Rahul No answer here after weeks. After some lengthy discussion with rel-eng team in irc, not much care either way. Talked to desktop team and based on their recommendation, I have added yum-presto to the GNOME Desktop group by default. If rel-eng wants to add it a base group for the DVD image, feel free to do so. Spin owners - likewise. Thanks. I've been using yum-presto since before F11 came out, and it is great. +1 to installing it by default in F12. FWIW, I have also experienced zero problems with it and believe it would be better enabled by default, retaining the option to disable. Updates would get done faster and mirrors would be able to cope with more connections, especially in the first push after release day... :) -- Christopher Brown -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Kernel 2.6.29 for F10
I too would like to see F10 move up to 2.6.29+ prior to end-of-life. In days of old, we were able to get rebases out pretty quickly after their upstream release. These days, we're hindered by the kernel modesetting stuff we're carrying. It's closely tied to the userspace X drivers, and isn't easy to retrofit to a different kernel. One of the reasons we haven't pushed them as proper updates is that getting the regressions fixed is pretty time consuming, and the limited X/KMS manpower we have is better focused on making the F12 stuff work right, and getting it upstream. Dave, Is this an offer to try and help me get the f12 kernel to boot on my system so that I can test it for you? ;-] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513528 Rodd -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:03:44AM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I would hold off on the default thing. I have found that it has played havoc with intel video drivers and NetworkManager. I do not know how but for me it was a pain in the neck. All I know is that after I re-installed and upgraded I have had no problems -1 to installing it by default in F12. What the heck does yum-presto have to do with the quality of the xorg-x11-drv-intel and NetworkManager packages? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:36:15AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:03:44AM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I would hold off on the default thing. I have found that it has played havoc with intel video drivers and NetworkManager. I do not know how but for me it was a pain in the neck. All I know is that after I re-installed and upgraded I have had no problems -1 to installing it by default in F12. What the heck does yum-presto have to do with the quality of the xorg-x11-drv-intel and NetworkManager packages? Responding to myself, are you perhaps confusing yum-presto with presto? Name : yum-presto Arch : noarch Version: 0.5.0 Release: 1.fc11 Size : 78 k Repo : installed Summary: Presto plugin for yum URL: http://www.lesbg.com/jdieter/presto/ License: GPLv2+ Description: Yum-presto is a plugin for yum that looks for deltarpms rather than : rpms whenever they are available. This has the potential of saving : a lot of bandwidth when downloading updates. : : A Deltarpm is the difference between two rpms. If you already have : foo-1.0 installed and foo-1.1 is available, yum-presto will : download the deltarpm for foo-1.0 = 1.1 rather than the full : foo-1.1 rpm, and then build the full foo-1.1 package from your : installed foo-1.0 and the downloaded deltarpm. Name : presto Arch : x86_64 Version: 0.1.3 Release: 6.fc11 Size : 35 k Repo : fedora Summary: A tilemap engine using the Allegro game programming library URL: http://www.hypersonicsoft.org/projects/showproject.php?id=29 License: GPLv3+ Description: Presto is a general-use tilemap engine coded in C that uses Allegro : for graphics rendering, and therefore is intended for use in games : using Allegro. It can handle rectangular tiles of any height and : width (and different height from width), loading tilemaps from : files, tile blending, and the capability to change most of these : elements on the fly. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Fedora Education Spin Nightly Builds now available!
Just a quick heads-up to note that daily builds of our education spin based on Rawhide are available thanks to the great work of the Infra Spin SIG folks. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/ Those builds conclude what is supposed to become the Fedora Education Spin for F12 and follow the concept of POSSE's Education Fedora Remix [1]. If you've any suggestions how we can improve the experience on this spin or what additional apps to include, please let us know! --Sebastian [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-July/msg7.html ___ Fedora-education-list mailing list Fedora-education-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list
[Bug 225617] Merge Review: bitmap-fonts
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[Bug 225617] Merge Review: bitmap-fonts
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[Bug 466369] font rendering is messed up on F-11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466369 Tim Niemueller t...@niemueller.de changed: What|Removed |Added CC||t...@niemueller.de --- Comment #43 from Tim Niemueller t...@niemueller.de 2009-08-18 06:12:03 EDT --- On my laptop (http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_d3521300-de3d-40ee-be30-5c99bb593c3b) I see similar problems. From time to time some letters get corrupted (especially in Firefox, Emacs does not show this problem). After some time they are gone, and then come back again. This is not on powerpc, but on x86_64. Very annoying, any information I can provide to get this fixed? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/smc-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.3, 1.4 smc-fonts.spec, 1.8, 1.9 sources, 1.3, 1.4
Author: rajeeshknambiar
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv13892
Modified Files:
.cvsignore smc-fonts.spec sources
Log Message:
Update to 04.2 with bugfix for RHBZ#484536
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- .cvsignore 29 Jul 2008 09:14:48 - 1.3
+++ .cvsignore 18 Aug 2009 15:46:31 - 1.4
@@ -1,2 +1 @@
-malayalam-fonts-04.zip
-malayalam-fonts-04.1.zip
+malayalam-fonts-04.2.zip
Index: smc-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel/smc-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.8
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -p -r1.8 -r1.9
--- smc-fonts.spec 27 Jul 2009 04:29:39 - 1.8
+++ smc-fonts.spec 18 Aug 2009 15:46:31 - 1.9
@@ -7,8 +7,8 @@ The SMC Fonts package contains fonts for
traditional and new Malayalam Script.
Name: %{fontname}-fonts
-Version: 04.1
-Release: 7%{?dist}
+Version: 04.2
+Release: 1%{?dist}
Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
Group: User Interface/X
License: GPLv3+ with exceptions and GPLv2+ with exceptions and GPLv2+
and GPLv2
@@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ Group: User Interface/X
Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
License: GPLv2+ with exceptions
Provides: %{fontname}-fonts-meera = %{version}-%{release}
-Obsoletes: %{name}-meera 04.1-4
+Obsoletes: %{name}-meera 04.2-1
%description -n %{fontname}-meera-fonts
The Meera font package contains fonts for the display of
traditional Malayalam Scripts.
@@ -152,6 +152,9 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
%dir %{_fontdir}
%changelog
+* Tue Aug 18 2009 Rajeesh K Nambiar rajeeshknamb...@gmail.com 04.2-1
+- bugfix 484536 for Meera
+
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 04.1-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- sources 29 Jul 2008 09:14:48 - 1.3
+++ sources 18 Aug 2009 15:46:31 - 1.4
@@ -1 +1 @@
-492cb9ec6bf69d775e987c1ca06b4003 malayalam-fonts-04.1.zip
+82e50d2bfed3111612e6b36070356a58 malayalam-fonts-04.2.zip
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[Bug 484536] [ml_IN] various smc-fonts have wrong default glyphs
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484536 --- Comment #6 from Rajeesh rajeeshknamb...@gmail.com 2009-08-18 12:34:46 EDT --- Fixed all the bugs identified in Meera in new upstream source archive http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/smc/fonts/malayalam-fonts-04.2.zip Updated smc-fonts package, koji build here : http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1612642 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 3512] Implement font-stretch property
Do not reply to this email. You can add comments to this bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3512 --- Comment #61 from Magne Andersson bugzi...@zirro.se 2009-08-18 12:54:28 PDT --- Will this make it in for 1.9.2, or is it for a later version? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 504272] [Fonts-Indic][te_IN] - Character 'HA' showing wrong shape in Composition
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504272 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||kkrot...@redhat.com --- Comment #4 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com 2009-08-19 01:17:46 EDT --- Satyabrata, I will work on this, adding krishnababu in cc Krishababu, can you please update me on this with respect to lohit-telugu-fonts -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: Wan't to join and why
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 08/17/2009 03:48 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote: Hi guys and gals, I am looking to join both the sysadmin-test and sysadmin-cvs groups. Why you might ask? Well I'll tell you. I wan't to get more involved in Fedora. Here is my current Fedora resume... - BugZapper for both KDE and Packagekit. - Maintain 20+ packages and am a Sponsor in the packaging group. - Work closely with the OLPC and Sugar folks at getting and maintaining the packages in Fedora - Responsible for creating builds of F11 with Sugar specifically for the OLPC XO-1 (Hope to get an XO-1.5 soon) see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 for info on this. What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report issues with Sugar Activities in Fedora. Will develop in PHP and would like to develop and test it on one of the publictest servers. Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained there. Any questions just ask. Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure? We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously but this might be a valid first case. If it's intended to run on Fedora Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python. In fact, I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff. -Toshio It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure. It is going to be an alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance. It could be built upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well. Developing it in Python will not be a problem. I am just in the beginning design stage atm. Steven = Steven M. Parrish - gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Wan't to join and why
On 08/18/2009 05:51 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote: What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report issues with Sugar Activities in Fedora. Will develop in PHP and would like to develop and test it on one of the publictest servers. Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained there. Any questions just ask. Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure? We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously but this might be a valid first case. If it's intended to run on Fedora Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python. In fact, I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff. -Toshio It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure. It is going to be an alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance. It could be built upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well. Developing it in Python will not be a problem. I am just in the beginning design stage atm. Very interesting. A related project https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Desktop_Client Rahul ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Wan't to join and why
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/18/2009 05:51 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote: What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report issues with Sugar Activities in Fedora. Will develop in PHP and would like to develop and test it on one of the publictest servers. Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained there. Any questions just ask. Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure? We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously but this might be a valid first case. If it's intended to run on Fedora Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python. In fact, I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff. -Toshio It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure. It is going to be an alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance. It could be built upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well. Developing it in Python will not be a problem. I am just in the beginning design stage atm. Very interesting. A related project https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Desktop_Client Rahul Sounds like we both have similar goals here. I think having both a OS based app and a simple web interface for our bugreporting is a great idea. Anything that makes it easier for normal users to report issues and give feedback will only lead to making Fedora a more user friendly distro. Steven -- = Steven M. Parrish - gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Wan't to join and why
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:15:48AM -0400, Steven M. Parrish wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/18/2009 05:51 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote: What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report issues with Sugar Activities in Fedora. Will develop in PHP and would like to develop and test it on one of the publictest servers. Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained there. Any questions just ask. Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure? We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously but this might be a valid first case. If it's intended to run on Fedora Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python. In fact, I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff. -Toshio It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure. It is going to be an alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance. It could be built upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well. Developing it in Python will not be a problem. I am just in the beginning design stage atm. Very interesting. A related project https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Desktop_Client Rahul Sounds like we both have similar goals here. I think having both a OS based app and a simple web interface for our bugreporting is a great idea. Anything that makes it easier for normal users to report issues and give feedback will only lead to making Fedora a more user friendly distro. I know that there were folks in the Desktop SIG who were interested in a more friendly bug filing Web interface, as well as other possibilities for lowering the fright factor of Bugzilla. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Wan't to join and why
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:15:48AM -0400, Steven M. Parrish wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/18/2009 05:51 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote: What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report issues with Sugar Activities in Fedora. Will develop in PHP and would like to develop and test it on one of the publictest servers. Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained there. Any questions just ask. Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure? We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously but this might be a valid first case. If it's intended to run on Fedora Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python. In fact, I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff. -Toshio It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure. It is going to be an alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance. It could be built upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well. Developing it in Python will not be a problem. I am just in the beginning design stage atm. Very interesting. A related project https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Desktop_Client Rahul Sounds like we both have similar goals here. I think having both a OS based app and a simple web interface for our bugreporting is a great idea. Anything that makes it easier for normal users to report issues and give feedback will only lead to making Fedora a more user friendly distro. I know that there were folks in the Desktop SIG who were interested in a more friendly bug filing Web interface, as well as other possibilities for lowering the fright factor of Bugzilla. Yes its something that was discussed at FudCon in January, but now that Sugar/OLPC is basing itself on Fedora I feel its important to get something going. -- = Steven M. Parrish - gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?
If you've got a moment for some last-minute help... We (Marketing) will be freezing the F12 talking points list today, and are still somewhat light in the what makes Fedora awesome for admins and developers? categories. Right now we have libguestfs and kvm improvements for admins and maybe moblin for developers, but there must be more - and more reasons why they're awesome (why *is* libguestfs something that makes admins happy?). We figured you would know. The features list is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/FeatureList. If you've got a moment, please take a look at that, then edit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_talking_points with the things that are making you (as admins and devels) happy about F12 coming out. Help us promote the heck out of your work. ;) Thanks! --Mel PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put the call out here much earlier. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Seeking comments on my proposal
Got the outline of my proposal here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SugarZilla I welcome any comments Steven -- = Steven M. Parrish - gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Seeking comments on my proposal
Got the outline of my proposal here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SugarZilla Nifty. My only comment: How can we make sure that the workflow/interface for SugarZilla is what its intended userbase needs? (It's easy for us to sit here and say yes, that will be better for 8-year-olds, but how do we know that?) Might be a good thing to get a Design team consultation on. --Mel ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Seeking comments on my proposal
Mel Chua wrote: Got the outline of my proposal here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SugarZilla Nifty. My only comment: How can we make sure that the workflow/interface for SugarZilla is what its intended userbase needs? (It's easy for us to sit here and say yes, that will be better for 8-year-olds, but how do we know that?) Might be a good thing to get a Design team consultation on. --Mel I had planned to get some design folks involved, in fact I will need help in that area. I am shooting for the simplest interface possible that is able to gather the needed info. Steven -- = Steven M. Parrish - gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Freeze break request for sigul fine tuning
Sigul changes are very low risk, as we're mostly done with the signing and puppet is currently disabled on these hosts. However vault may be rebuilt tomorrow and if so I want the puppet modules to be correct for the rebuild. -- Jes ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Freeze break request for sigul fine tuning
On 2009-08-18 11:28:04 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: Sigul changes are very low risk, as we're mostly done with the signing and puppet is currently disabled on these hosts. However vault may be rebuilt tomorrow and if so I want the puppet modules to be correct for the rebuild. +1 Thanks, Ricky pgpPb3NIMbaE5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Freeze break request for sigul fine tuning
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Ricky Zhou wrote: On 2009-08-18 11:28:04 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: Sigul changes are very low risk, as we're mostly done with the signing and puppet is currently disabled on these hosts. However vault may be rebuilt tomorrow and if so I want the puppet modules to be correct for the rebuild. +1 +1 here as well though techncally they're not frozen yet only because we've not yet added them to the is frozen doc :) -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Recompile kernel without SMP
On Monday 17 August 2009 20:17:29 Paul Grinberg wrote: Josh, I have a good reason for that. I use Cisco VPN client for Linux, and it does not work with SMP kernel. I vaguely recall using the cisco vpn client for linux on an smp kernel just fine, but I stopped using it years ago, as vpnc works well enough as a replacement for it. Thank you for the reply! Do you know how to fix it. What needs to be done to compile non-SMP? I do know how, but its semi-involved, and I'm afraid I'm a bit tied up with other slightly more pressing work. Short version is that you need to add a config-foo target in merge.pl, iirc, add that to the spec as another Source, tweak instances of %with_up within the spec file, and that would at least get you close. But again, I think this is really pointless, since 1) I'm pretty sure the cisco vpn client runs fine on smp 2) if it doesn't, vpnc works reasonably well to replace it and 3) you can likely just boot the current smp-enabled kernel with maxcpus=1 added to the command line to get up behavior if you absolutely must run the cisco vpn client in a single-processor environment. -- Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: (no subject)
On 08/18/2009 09:24 AM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Unfortunately, the legal approach of Mr Sundaram still doesn't answer this enigma: if proprietary document formatting is just defining an awfully more complex and secret way of producing bold than B/B, then what are media codecs exactly? Already answered in the FAQ. Read it carefully. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kmod-nvidia for kernel -217 please ?
'yum update' is showing a new kernel is available. However, those of us running non open source video drivers (for various reasons) cannot update because the new kmod-nvidia driver isn't built for the new kernel. Could someone build it and push it out to the repositories ? Thanks PS: Thanks for supplying the kmod-nvidia driver. I used to have to build it myself. I'm glad I don't have to. Good job. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia for kernel -217 please ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: 'yum update' is showing a new kernel is available. However, those of us running non open source video drivers (for various reasons) cannot update because the new kmod-nvidia driver isn't built for the new kernel. Could someone build it and push it out to the repositories ? Thanks PS: Thanks for supplying the kmod-nvidia driver. I used to have to build it myself. I'm glad I don't have to. Good job. Why not install akmod-nvidia (rpmfusion-nonfree-updates)? Then you are independent from the current kernel (the module will be rebuilt on the first boot of a new kernel). -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HDA Intel sound card problem
The default alsa drivers version in f11 is 1.0.18. The current version is 1.0.20 and there are lots of intel-hda fixes in the update. The reason f11 is running the old version is because the kernel it is using doesn't support the new drivers. What do you mean by that? I have been using driver 1.0.20 since I installed F11, a long time ago. There is nothing in kernel 2.6.29 that precludes its installation. -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Akmod-nvidia problem
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 14:17 +0930, Tim wrote: I just tried akmod-nvidia on Fedora 11 for the first time, the other day. I had to install kernel-devel myself, afterwards, before it could do what it was supposed to. Surely it ought to drag that in as a dependency, then? Installing akmod-nvidia certainly dragged in a pile of other things. When you all say fresh install, does that include all updates (not testing) as well? Is this done before trying to install nvidia or after? 1 - Fresh install and configured (firewall, selinux, networking, etc) to your liking 2 - Updates installed plus programs you like/want added 3 - Make sure your booted into the latest kernel you have installed 4 - Install akmod-nvidia and deps, then reboot. Somewhat of how I do it and don't think I've had any problems installing the akmod or any extra deps as it pulls it all in itself. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY Fedora Project - Bugzapper, Tester, User, etc.. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Akmod-nvidia problem
Tim wrote: I just tried akmod-nvidia on Fedora 11 for the first time, the other day. I had to install kernel-devel myself, afterwards, before it could do what it was supposed to. Surely it ought to drag that in as a dependency, then? Installing akmod-nvidia certainly dragged in a pile of other things. On my x86_64 box, akmod-nvidia does in fact depend on kernel-devel. On i386, it would be kernel-PAE-devel. You could check /var/log/yum.log to see what was installed along with akmod-nvidia. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Akmod-nvidia problem
On 08/18/2009 02:29 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Richard Shaw wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:29 PM,gil...@altern.org wrote: Of course, YMMV, but, as far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't advise anybody to use akmod-nvidia. Any way out of this mess? I know I've been guilty of it at times but you have to be careful drawing those types of conclusions from one experience. I've used the akmod-nvidia package for some time without issue and since this is the first posting I've read where someone did have an issue it doesn't look to be that common. As I said, YMMV :) For now, there's a new kernel again and I'll see how it works with kmod-nvidia tomorrow. Whats YMMV My kmod-nvidia doesnt work with the new kernel Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Akmod-nvidia problem
Tim: I just tried akmod-nvidia on Fedora 11 for the first time, the other day. I had to install kernel-devel myself, afterwards, before it could do what it was supposed to. Surely it ought to drag that in as a dependency, then? Installing akmod-nvidia certainly dragged in a pile of other things. Mike Chambers: When you all say fresh install, does that include all updates (not testing) as well? Is this done before trying to install nvidia or after? I booted the DVD, let it install (onto a new, unused, hard drive) with the default options, didn't do any updates, the only things I added to the installation, was first trying kmod-nvidia, but it was missing something, so it wouldn't install, and I noticed I had a pae kernel. Then I installed the ordinary kernel package (yum install kernel), went to install akmod-nvidia (yum install akmod-kernel), it installed but didn't work. Looking at the failure messages during reboot, I thought adding kernel-devel might fix it up. I did a yum install kernel-devel, rebooted, and everything did what it was supposed to. That's it. I forgot about the pae kernel thing, before. The only thing I've done since then was edit the menus, as there was no entry showing to start an email program. Evolution was installed, but the menu entry for it was hidden. Since then, I've pulled the drive. I need to work, and don't have the time to try and get used to a new OS just before doing something I want to rely on the computer for. Experimenting will have to wait a bit. I wasted ages TRYING to install, before then. DVD/CD installs always take an age, and didn't want to use another blank DVD up, so I like to use the smaller net install disc, to boot the machine, and then install from the main image on an external drive. The computer never found my USB hard drive (CentOS 5.3 wouldn't, either). I also tried a NFS install, and that didn't work, either. It'd start, then bog down. I couldn't even ping the machine from another. I seem to recall something about extracting install.img from the ISO, and putting it in the same directory as the main DVD ISO. That didn't work, neither did putting it into a images sub-directory. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OpenSSH FIPS compliance
Hi, I saw many commits of patches to OpenSSH relating FIPS in the fedora-extra-commits mailing list. I was wondering if anyone here can provide me some info on what those patches are and whether OpenSSH is FIPS compliant. Best regards, Noam Meltzer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Testdisk error for LVM partition recover
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Arun Shrimali arun.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: Arun Shrimali wrote: Dear All, Recently I have loaded Fedora 11, but yesterday fedora refused to boot. on googling I have found that testdisk is the best tool to recover the data, but end of it ... Weather testdisk is the best tool depends on what the problem is. What happens when you try to boot? Do you get an error message? If so, what is it? If Grub is loading, you may be able to boot with the previous kernel. If Grub is not loading, you can probably use the install disk in the rescue mode to re-install Grub. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Weather testdisk is the best tool depends on what the problem is. *I really don't know * What happens when you try to boot? Do you get an error message? If so, what is it? *Boot disk failure* If Grub is loading, you may be able to boot with the previous kernel. If Grub is not loading, you can probably use the install disk in the rescue mode to re-install Grub. *I tried to reinstall the grub with live CD, but it says file not found* *Arun* Fedora 11 use the ext4 file system Is there any tools through which I can recover files from crashed HDD which has ext4 file system Arun -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Lirc problems latest F11 kernel
Hi guys Since the last 2 updates to the F11 kernel, my lirc receiver has stoppped being loaded on boot. with 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 i get the following on boot in dmesg: ~]# dmesg |grep lirc lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 248 lirc_mceusb2: Philips eHome USB IR Transceiver and Microsoft MCE 2005 Remote Control driver for LIRC 1.48 lirc_mceusb2: Daniel Melander l...@rajidae.se, Martin Blatter martin_a_blat...@yahoo.com lirc_dev: lirc_register_driver: sample_rate: 0 lirc_mceusb2[2]: Philips eHome Infrared Transceiver on usb3:2 usbcore: registered new interface driver lirc_mceusb2 With the 2.7 and 2.8 kernels, i get nothing Trying to do a modprobe lirc_dev or lirc_mceusb2 just gives a module not found Any ideas whats up? cheers Dunc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Miro and My Audio Problems
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Marc Ferguson marcfergu...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:10:32 -0400, Marc wrote: Hi Folks, I'm running Fedora 11 x86_64 and I recently installed Miro 2.0.5-3. Now I normally have video and audio issues right out of the box because I don't have all the packages needed. I stumbled upon a quick fix one day while running Fedora 10. I installed mythtv and it seemed to have installed all the video and audio support I needed. So; this time I did a yum-depbuild mythtv which installed all the dependent packages and not the main package. ?? Do you mean yum-builddep? If so, please re-read its manual page, because what the tool does is not related to what you thought it would do. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Hey Michael you are absolutely right about yum-builddep. It's not what I thought it was. Is there such a procedure of installing dependent packages without installing the main package? In this scenario, I guess I'm looking for MP4 and M4V support. -- Marc Ferguson www.fergytech.com www.digitalalias.net When life gives me lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff! Thanks for the reply. It helped me to realize that I probably needed another flavor of gstreamer installed. I went ahead installed gstreamer-plugin-bad and all worked fine after that. -- Marc Ferguson www.fergytech.com www.digitalalias.net When life gives me lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HDA Intel sound card problem
2009/8/18 Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com The default alsa drivers version in f11 is 1.0.18. The current version is 1.0.20 and there are lots of intel-hda fixes in the update. The reason f11 is running the old version is because the kernel it is using doesn't support the new drivers. What do you mean by that? I have been using driver 1.0.20 since I installed F11, a long time ago. There is nothing in kernel 2.6.29 that precludes its installation. Thanks for your replies. unfortunately it still doesn't work. I tried pulseaudio, the current alsa version with kernel-2.6.30, another backend and some other fixes which were suggested by Google. I'll have to propably listen my mp3 player or radio :) my laptop doesn't want to cooperate with me. -- darekr -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia for kernel -217 please ?
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:04 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: 'yum update' is showing a new kernel is available. However, those of us running non open source video drivers (for various reasons) cannot update because the new kmod-nvidia driver isn't built for the new kernel. Could someone build it and push it out to the repositories ? Thanks PS: Thanks for supplying the kmod-nvidia driver. I used to have to build it myself. I'm glad I don't have to. Good job. Why not install akmod-nvidia (rpmfusion-nonfree-updates)? Then you are independent from the current kernel (the module will be rebuilt on the first boot of a new kernel). I'll give it a try. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 15:16:04 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I use cached imap on kmail with good results. It is fast and since the messages are also stored locally it is quite fast. Is that a setting? If so, I hadn't noticed it. That is set when the account is initially configured. There are two options for IMAP: - IMAP - Disconnected IMAP The dimap allows stores a copy of all email locally. I understand that this is not appropriate if the accounts are high volume and the network is slow. When the connection is established all email is downloaded. When there is no network connection the operations are stacked so that when the network is restored the mail box is synchronised. All my IMAP accounts are dealt that way. The only precaution worth of note is not to subscribe the All Mail folder for gmail accounts. Of course :-) poc -- José Abílio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
comand-line driven image editor
Dear Fedora Folks! I want to write a script that would browse the WEB (Internet shops) and using wget will download goods description and pictures. I will parse resulted htmls then and represent data into another form (SQL INSERT command). I can imagine how to do all that but pictures are the most complicated part of the job. I need to change their dimensions and some other characteristics, like contrast and brightness. Is there a command that will do the task? Respectfully -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 abd Twitter
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 17:00 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Aaron Konstamakons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: After wasting an hour it became clear that you can not create Twitter accounts using firefox under F1. Using User Agent addon to get Internet explorer doesn't seem to help that much. Anyone have contrary experiences, -- I've been having a lot of contrary experiences with Twitter lately. Over the weekend, FireFox 3.5 under Fedora 11 dis not appear to be working on Twitter. On an older machine running FireFox 3.0.x Twitter was working fine. Today, I was able to post again with FireFox 3.5. I suspect the folks at Twitter are messing with their javascript and have found some differences between the two versions of the browser. It is not so much posting that is the problem. It is creating an account which fails in firefox and uploading an icon which fails in firefox. I have no problem posting. -- === The surest protection against temptation is cowardice. -- Mark Twain === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: (no subject)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/18/2009 09:24 AM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Unfortunately, the legal approach of Mr Sundaram still doesn't answer this enigma: if proprietary document formatting is just defining an awfully more complex and secret way of producing bold than B/B, then what are media codecs exactly? Already answered in the FAQ. Read it carefully. Rahul Media formats almost always involve lossy compression There are reasons for selecting one lossy compression scheme over another that are very different from considerations of document formatting, which do seem to be primarily a way of keeping things proprietary. Lossy compression is still very much a topic of ongoing research. If someone comes up with a clever scheme for lowering the bit count while minimizing the subjective loss, that person could reasonably claim it as intellectual property. I'm not plugging the proprietary software distribution paradigm, just saying. Of course, media formats are also entangled with digital rights management, which has everything to do with the issues addressed in your FAQ. Generally these work against usability, data efficiency and quality. I won't touch here the debate over music wanting to be free vs. musicians wanting to be paid and the extent to which DRM accomplishes the latter, other than to point out that it is frequently and plausibly argued that musicians are pretty much the last people DRM protects, if at all. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I get sound in GNOME without pulseaudio
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 19:27 -0700, stan wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:21:59 +0200 lars.bjorn...@broadpark.no (Lars Bjørndal) wrote: Dear list Could you please advice me in how to get sound within GNOME without pulseaudio, e.g. with ALSA/ESD? I don't think this is possible anymore. I am not an expert at this but I believe that pulse is so closely integrated with Gnome now that it requires pulse in order to generate sounds. I know that if I use something from Gnome that needs sound, pulse is automatically started even though I have it disabled. I think this is the culprit. /usr/libexec/pulse/gconf-helper Can you afford to install a cheap sound card that you can give over exclusively to pulse, and remove your existing card from it's purview? Or vice versa. Then you use one card for orca and espeak, and let pulse use the other for Gnome to produce system sounds. It's my experiennce that removing alsa-plugind-pulseaudio disables pulseaudio and you are back to just alsa. Running alsamixer leads me to that conclusion. -- === Today is the first day of the rest of your lossage. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How Extract The Fedorecore iso cd
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 23:31 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: Hi Michael, Michael Wright wrote: Hi Told i'm downloading the Cd iso from fedoracore website atm i want to put it to a clean dvd Hi Told sorry about that what i am doing is downloading the iso cd from Fedoracore website how do i put it to a dvd hope that helps There is some documentation on burning the .iso images at: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/readme-burning-isos/en-US.html Note that the section on validating the downloaded image is a little outdated as of Fedora 11, because we switched to sha256 for generating the .iso checksums. The documentation is being fixed, but what was produced for Fedora 11 is unfortunately not entirely correct on that on point. This is a Fedora List. Why inwstall iso files onto cDs and DVDs using Windows tools. -- === Due to circumstances beyond your control, you are master of your fate and captain of your soul. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: comand-line driven image editor
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:21 +0400, Hiisi wrote: pictures are the most complicated part of the job. I need to change their dimensions and some other characteristics, like contrast and brightness. Is there a command that will do the task? Possibly convert with the -normalize option. It's a part of the ImageMagick package. NB: When tweaking image contrast and brightness, be careful that you're not mal-adjusting an image to compensate for a mal-adjusted monitor. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia for kernel -217 please ?
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 06:58 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:04 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: 'yum update' is showing a new kernel is available. However, those of us running non open source video drivers (for various reasons) cannot update because the new kmod-nvidia driver isn't built for the new kernel. Could someone build it and push it out to the repositories ? Thanks PS: Thanks for supplying the kmod-nvidia driver. I used to have to build it myself. I'm glad I don't have to. Good job. Why not install akmod-nvidia (rpmfusion-nonfree-updates)? Then you are independent from the current kernel (the module will be rebuilt on the first boot of a new kernel). I'll give it a try. I didn't build when I rebooted. The boot hung. For some reason my wifi card doesn't connect to the network during the boot. It establishes a connection and works just fine during my KDE session, but it doesn't establish a connection during the boot. I'm still waiting for kmod-nvidia so I can use the new kernel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM Spec File - %define into %pre section
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 20:46 -0300, Bruno Galindro da Costa wrote: It works! Thank you very much! 2009/8/17 Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com [...] (Please don't top post. Trim the quotes and reply after.) Which part of the above did you not understand? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with nautilus and smb:// links
It looks the problem is with the SAMBA upgrade to 3.4.0. Downgrade solves the problem. Waiting for a patch for gvfs. Thank you all for reading this. Sincerely, -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=363059topic_id=75134forum=10#forumpost363059 If you think, this is spam, please report this to webmas...@fcp.surfsite.org and/or blame theophanis_kontogian...@yahoo.gr. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Testdisk error for LVM partition recover
Please, do not post is HTML! Arun Shrimali wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Mikkel wrote: What happens when you try to boot? Do you get an error message? If so, what is it? /Boot disk failure/ If Grub is loading, you may be able to boot with the previous kernel. If Grub is not loading, you can probably use the install disk in the rescue mode to re-install Grub. /I tried to reinstall the grub with live CD, but it says file not found/ /Arun/ You are much better off using a normal install disk, or the net install CD, and using the rescue mode. You let it mount your file systems, and then run chroot /mnt/sysimage. You run grub-install from there. If this does not work, report back the error messages. Do not respond with a HTML message. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia for kernel -217 please ?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 00:56:23 -0600, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: 'yum update' is showing a new kernel is available. However, those of us running non open source video drivers (for various reasons) cannot update because the new kmod-nvidia driver isn't built for the new kernel. Could someone build it and push it out to the repositories ? It would probably better to ask this on an rpm fusion list. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How Extract The Fedorecore iso cd
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 14:38:46 Aaron Konstam wrote: This is a Fedora List. Why inwstall iso files onto cDs and DVDs using Windows tools. How else do you get a first install? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I get sound in GNOME without pulseaudio
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 08:31 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: It's my experiennce that removing alsa-plugind-pulseaudio disables pulseaudio and you are back to just alsa. Running alsamixer leads me to that conclusion. Do you mean that alsamixer says something about how it's running, or that playing with the mixer levels in alsamixer leads you to that conclusion? Alsamixer just plays with the mixer controls, turning up/down PCM, CD, or other audio signals, still works even when pulseaudio is on your system. You're just adjusting the signals part way through the chain. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How Extract The Fedorecore iso cd
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 08:38 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: This is a Fedora List. Why inwstall iso files onto cDs and DVDs using Windows tools. Because some people are coming from Windows and don't yet have a working Linux system? IIRC the Fedora Install docs deal with this explicitly. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 abd Twitter
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 17:00 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Aaron Konstamakons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: After wasting an hour it became clear that you can not create Twitter accounts using firefox under F1. Using User Agent addon to get Internet explorer doesn't seem to help that much. Anyone have contrary experiences, -- I've been having a lot of contrary experiences with Twitter lately. Over the weekend, FireFox 3.5 under Fedora 11 dis not appear to be working on Twitter. On an older machine running FireFox 3.0.x Twitter was working fine. Today, I was able to post again with FireFox 3.5. I suspect the folks at Twitter are messing with their javascript and have found some differences between the two versions of the browser. It is not so much posting that is the problem. It is creating an account which fails in firefox and uploading an icon which fails in firefox. I have no problem posting. I just created a new account for my cat. No problem at all -- Cheops' Law: Nothing ever gets built on schedule or within budget. mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 abd Twitter
Ed Greshko wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 17:00 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Aaron Konstamakons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: After wasting an hour it became clear that you can not create Twitter accounts using firefox under F1. Using User Agent addon to get Internet explorer doesn't seem to help that much. Anyone have contrary experiences, -- I've been having a lot of contrary experiences with Twitter lately. Over the weekend, FireFox 3.5 under Fedora 11 dis not appear to be working on Twitter. On an older machine running FireFox 3.0.x Twitter was working fine. Today, I was able to post again with FireFox 3.5. I suspect the folks at Twitter are messing with their javascript and have found some differences between the two versions of the browser. It is not so much posting that is the problem. It is creating an account which fails in firefox and uploading an icon which fails in firefox. I have no problem posting. I just created a new account for my cat. No problem at all Sorry I have been corrected. I created a new account for the cat. She objects to the use of the term my cat since that implies ownership and 3 cats grace us with their presence. Oh, and I uploaded a photo for her which she considers an Icon. -- Even a hawk is an eagle among crows. mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
