Re: OT - 2 things (Pee Club)
Now, I'm laughing my ass off on thisa lot of truth in that! I agree with you In a message dated 7/1/2005 9:41:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I'm not making this up. lol, yeah, I've pretty much eliminated houseguests now. It's great, they were SUCH a hassle. Jenn Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescueClick Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/joinhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/Southern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/
Re: Current FELV and FIV cats up for euthansia - could these be yours?
Hi Jenn Just got home from a big family get to gether supper... And reading your message... Sounds like I would be making a number of trips to my vet...Handeling open woonds isn't my favorit thing to do but my vet is very reasonable Are these woonds from scratching themselves becouse of the fleas??? One question I would ask...Are these cats people friendly and easy to handel??? And we are talking about a 1500 mile transport which will be a big stress for an FeLV+... Are they strong enough to survive that?? If they are reasonably tame I will deal with the medical problems so long as there are no hard feelings if at my vets advice I have them PTS...Neather my vet nor I call for that easily Getting the transport will be the big job... In the mean time will the vet down there get rid of the flras and ear mites...They can kill a healthy cat...Antibiotics and sub-q liquid and a couple good meales shouldn't be a big deal..See what they look like then...If they are strong enough to show improvement I would say save them... Whats everybody else think...Can we do it ??? Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the list of cats that the vets are holding JUST FOR ME, and would overwise already be DEAD. I need opinions people, do these sound treatable, and should we try to get them transported? Tad? Do you have the time to nurse open sores and that type of severe injury? I'm recommending saving the dilute calico, sounds like she just needs rehydrated and fed. I'm also demanding they save the black DSH, because I may know his owner, so he will be held til I can get picture tomorrow. I'm up in the air about the buff guy with open pressure sores, and all that mess, he sounds like he is suffering, should I give the OK to euthanise him guys? I have no say over the FIV cats, as I don't have fosters for them, so if they sound like they could be one you are seeking, let me know ASAP, before they euthanise them! I have the records for the 3 FeLV cats: I will just list what is abnormal. Please let me know what you think. I can get pictures and send them to you if you need them tomorrow. Dilute calico DMH, ~4 years Eyes - sunken, 3rd eyelid up Ear mites Fleas 4+ Mouth - peridontal/missing teeth Dehydrated Notes: very thin, dehydrated, Recommend euthanasia Buff DSH, ~4 years Eyes - conjunctivitis Ears -mites Skin - dermatitis, hair loss, self trauma Abdomen - hernia over incision Mouth - missing teeth, periodontal, gingivitis Legs/feet - pressure sores Notes: ear flaps ulcerated necrotic, conjuct, nasal discharge, missing teeth, periodontal, gingivitis, pressure sores on hocks, fleas Needs Euthanized Black DSH, 6 years Ears - mites Skin/coat - fleas ++, severe (??) dermatitis Abdominal - thin Mouth - moderate tarter Notes: none Then I have two bad FIVs: White with gray DSH,5 years Eyes - sunken Ears - mites Skin - fleas, thin hair Mouth - see below Dehydrated Notes - mouth ulcer tongue, severe tarter, periodontal, gingivitis, URI Body condition, 1.5 Vet recommends euthanasia Buff DSH, 4 years Eyes - sunken Ears - mites Skin - fleas, self trauma to skin, wounds on right rear leg, pressure sores, possible mange Mouth - severe gingivitis, periodontal disease, acne Dehydrated Notes - recommends euthanasia Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005
Re: Current FELV and FIV cats up for euthansia - could these be yours?
I suppose the bottom line...Do any of these cats have sponsers that would want to help with expenses should be a consideration and on the other hand its probably just as easy to transport 4 or 6 as it is to transport only 1 Tad Tad Burnett wrote: Hi Jenn Just got home from a big family get to gether supper... And reading your message... Sounds like I would be making a number of trips to my vet...Handeling open woonds isn't my favorit thing to do but my vet is very reasonable Are these woonds from scratching themselves becouse of the fleas??? One question I would ask...Are these cats people friendly and easy to handel??? And we are talking about a 1500 mile transport which will be a big stress for an FeLV+... Are they strong enough to survive that?? If they are reasonably tame I will deal with the medical problems so long as there are no hard feelings if at my vets advice I have them PTS...Neather my vet nor I call for that easily Getting the transport will be the big job... In the mean time will the vet down there get rid of the flras and ear mites...They can kill a healthy cat...Antibiotics and sub-q liquid and a couple good meales shouldn't be a big deal..See what they look like then...If they are strong enough to show improvement I would say save them... Whats everybody else think...Can we do it ??? Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the list of cats that the vets are holding JUST FOR ME, and would overwise already be DEAD. I need opinions people, do these sound treatable, and should we try to get them transported? Tad? Do you have the time to nurse open sores and that type of severe injury? I'm recommending saving the dilute calico, sounds like she just needs rehydrated and fed. I'm also demanding they save the black DSH, because I may know his owner, so he will be held til I can get picture tomorrow. I'm up in the air about the buff guy with open pressure sores, and all that mess, he sounds like he is suffering, should I give the OK to euthanise him guys? I have no say over the FIV cats, as I don't have fosters for them, so if they sound like they could be one you are seeking, let me know ASAP, before they euthanise them! I have the records for the 3 FeLV cats: I will just list what is abnormal. Please let me know what you think. I can get pictures and send them to you if you need them tomorrow. Dilute calico DMH, ~4 years Eyes - sunken, 3rd eyelid up Ear mites Fleas 4+ Mouth - peridontal/missing teeth Dehydrated Notes: very thin, dehydrated, Recommend euthanasia Buff DSH, ~4 years Eyes - conjunctivitis Ears -mites Skin - dermatitis, hair loss, self trauma Abdomen - hernia over incision Mouth - missing teeth, periodontal, gingivitis Legs/feet - pressure sores Notes: ear flaps ulcerated necrotic, conjuct, nasal discharge, missing teeth, periodontal, gingivitis, pressure sores on hocks, fleas Needs Euthanized Black DSH, 6 years Ears - mites Skin/coat - fleas ++, severe (??) dermatitis Abdominal - thin Mouth - moderate tarter Notes: none Then I have two bad FIVs: White with gray DSH,5 years Eyes - sunken Ears - mites Skin - fleas, thin hair Mouth - see below Dehydrated Notes - mouth ulcer tongue, severe tarter, periodontal, gingivitis, URI Body condition, 1.5 Vet recommends euthanasia Buff DSH, 4 years Eyes - sunken Ears - mites Skin - fleas, self trauma to skin, wounds on right rear leg, pressure sores, possible mange Mouth - severe gingivitis, periodontal disease, acne Dehydrated Notes - recommends euthanasia Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005
Re: (Pee Club) and for Michelle......over grooming again :(
I think that is the dose that Patches gets. It's been so long that I've been doing it and I go by the unit marks on the syringes, that I have forgotten the actual dose. Patches may get more, actually. I think the vet had said to give her 6 mg of benadryl orally, so I assume he would have prescribed at least as much transdermally. You can try giving her 6 mg (1/4 of an over-the-counter 25 mg pill) orally. It would be ok-- my vet said they can get a whole 25 mg pill for extreme anxiety and recommended I give a whole one to Lucy when we move because she freaks out so much in the car. I should tell you that even with the benadryl cream Patches does still overgroom, in that the hair never fully grows back on her belly and back legs. But without it she is totally bald there and licks herself raw, She at least has some hair there on the benadryl and feliway (diffuser plus I spray the edges of the room she hangs out in most every morning and, if I remember, at night). Amitryptaline seems to be used for a lot of anxiety-caused behavior problems. Maybe it would help with this? Michelle In a message dated 7/2/05 1:23:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DD is still overgrooming with the benadryl cream. It doesn't seem to effect her. Her dosage is 1mL twice daily (alternate ears)do you remember what you used? I saved some other ideas I may try next, but the pharmacist said my prescription was a very 'low' dose. I wonder if my vet prescribed a low dose because she didn't think it would work and I insisted on trying it? My vet can be like that
Re: Current FELV and FIV cats up for euthansia - could these be yours?
Could this fellow be a himmy/siamese look? The one I transported was morebuff with light gray. could you send me a pix if you think hecould be him? Actually,if it were him, I would not hesitate to euthanize him, he was in bad shape8/02 with we moved him there. Then I have two bad FIVs: White with gray DSH,5 years Eyes - sunken Ears - mites Skin - fleas, thin hair Mouth - see below Dehydrated Notes - mouth ulcer tongue, severe tarter, periodontal, gingivitis, URI Body condition, 1.5 Vet recommends euthanasia - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Current FELV and FIV cats up for euthansia - could these be yours? This is the list of cats that the vets are holding JUST FOR ME, and would overwise already be DEAD. I need opinions people, do these sound treatable, and should we try to get them transported? Tad? Do you have the time to nurse open sores and that type of severe injury? I'm recommending saving the dilute calico, sounds like she just needs rehydrated and fed. I'm also demanding they save the black DSH, because I may know his owner, so he will be held til I can get picture tomorrow. I'm up in the air about the buff guy with open pressure sores, and all that mess, he sounds like he is suffering, should I give the OK to euthanise him guys? I have no say over the FIV cats, as I don't have fosters for them, so if they sound like they could be one you are seeking, let me know ASAP, before they euthanise them! I have the records for the 3 FeLV cats: I will just list what is abnormal. Please let me know what you think. I can get pictures and send them to you if you need them tomorrow. Dilute calico DMH, ~4 years Eyes - sunken, 3rd eyelid up Ear mites Fleas 4+ Mouth - peridontal/missing teeth Dehydrated Notes: very thin, dehydrated, Recommend euthanasia Buff DSH, ~4 years Eyes - conjunctivitis Ears -mites Skin - dermatitis, hair loss, self trauma Abdomen - hernia over incision Mouth - missing teeth, periodontal, gingivitis Legs/feet - pressure sores Notes: ear flaps ulcerated necrotic, conjuct, nasal discharge, missing teeth, periodontal, gingivitis, pressure sores on hocks, fleas Needs Euthanized Black DSH, 6 years Ears - mites Skin/coat - fleas ++, severe (??) dermatitis Abdominal - thin Mouth - moderate tarter Notes: none Then I have two bad FIVs: White with gray DSH,5 years Eyes - sunken Ears - mites Skin - fleas, thin hair Mouth - see below Dehydrated Notes - mouth ulcer tongue, severe tarter, periodontal, gingivitis, URI Body condition, 1.5 Vet recommends euthanasia Buff DSH, 4 years Eyes - sunken Ears - mites Skin - fleas, self trauma to skin, wounds on right rear leg, pressure sores, possible mange Mouth - severe gingivitis, periodontal disease, acne Dehydrated Notes - recommends euthanasia Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005
Re: OT - 2 things
Well, you have the #1 disaster so farto pee on you while you were sleeping! If this was a contest, you would win ... or Doobie would win. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:28 PM Subject: Re: OT - 2 things LOL, that's why Doobie got neutered. We were sound asleep one night, and all of a sudden, it got warm and wet on our backs. He had peed about a gallon of stinky tom cat pee on top of all of our covers, at just about shoulder level, and it had soaked all the way through the comforter, blanket, sheet, and US! I was SO mad, I called the vet at 7:00 AM that morning, and said "I have a cat that needs to have his nuts chopped off TODAY!", and they fit him right in. He has NEVER peed on the bed since. I think when I told him "OH, buddy, you are gonna PAY for this one!" he realized I was serious when I loaded him up and took him to the vet first thing that morning, and that night when he was flopping around in a drunken stupor minus two testicles! To say he learned a lesson is putting it mildly. I know, it's mean to neuter a cat as punishment, but he REALLY asked for that one! He might have stayed a tom for his entire life, if he hadn't pulled that trick! Now, when he's being bad, and I say "Don't you EVEN think about it!" he generally stops! I also trim claws as punishment around here. One cat scratches another, that cat gets a claw trimming. They hate it, because they can't do wild acrobatics on the cat tree when they don't have claws. Oh, hey, you guys recall me saying how my girl cat doesn't use the box, but will go in front of it, or in an empty box with no filler? Well, onmany people'sadvise, I went and bought a new large UNcovered litterbox and I have not found any pee on the floor since. It WAS the covered boxes, she felt trapped in them, I think! Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ How about being already in BED and sniffing and realize someone peed on it! I run a dehumidifier and I guess someone did it during the day and it had dried before I got in bed that night. agh!!! tonya No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005
Re: OT - 2 things
Yeah, I have them with the drippy and oozing poop but that didn't count because they were sick and could not help it. - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:18 PM Subject: Re: OT - 2 things Not that I'm looking for pity, but... When my poor Gypsy was at her worst with IBD, she was constantly leaking just that! I kept thinking that for the sake of everyone else in the household I should confine her, but she would freak out when shut away from everyone else. So, instead, I spent a great deal of time following her around on my hands and knees cleaning up after her. I had towels and throws over almost every stick of furniture. What a nightmare! Thank God that's over with!NinaDel Daniels wrote: Yes ... last year the vet suggested we take Antonio off the Prozac and I had thought about it but the night before when I was getting into bed, my pillow had been zapped. Now we keep Antonio confined to the large family room and enclosed back porch. There is a screen door between the family room and dining room. Even though there are others peeing around, he goes full blast when he gets into the main house. Knowing there are others dealing with these situations helps keep me sane while being sorry you have the problems, too. I continually remind myself to be grateful this is not POOP all over. Del
Re: OT - 2 things
I'd say so tooif that would have happened to me I would be furious as well. In a message dated 7/2/2005 8:55:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, you have the #1 disaster so farto pee on you while you were sleeping! If this was a contest, you would win ... or Doobie would win. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:28 PM Subject: Re: OT - 2 things LOL, that's why Doobie got neutered. We were sound asleep one night, and all of a sudden, it got warm and wet on our backs. He had peed about a gallon of stinky tom cat pee on top of all of our covers, at just about shoulder level, and it had soaked all the way through the comforter, blanket, sheet, and US! I was SO mad, I called the vet at 7:00 AM that morning, and said "I have a cat that needs to have his nuts chopped off TODAY!", and they fit him right in. He has NEVER peed on the bed since. I think when I told him "OH, buddy, you are gonna PAY for this one!" he realized I was serious when I loaded him up and took him to the vet first thing that morning, and that night when he was flopping around in a drunken stupor minus two testicles! To say he learned a lesson is putting it mildly. I know, it's mean to neuter a cat as punishment, but he REALLY asked for that one! He might have stayed a tom for his entire life, if he hadn't pulled that trick! Now, when he's being bad, and I say "Don't you EVEN think about it!" he generally stops! I also trim claws as punishment around here. One cat scratches another, that cat gets a claw trimming. They hate it, because they can't do wild acrobatics on the cat tree when they don't have claws. Oh, hey, you guys recall me saying how my girl cat doesn't use the box, but will go in front of it, or in an empty box with no filler? Well, onmany people'sadvise, I went and bought a new large UNcovered litterbox and I have not found any pee on the floor since. It WAS the covered boxes, she felt trapped in them, I think! Jennhttp://ucat.us/http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ How about being already in BED and sniffing and realize someone peed on it! I run a dehumidifier and I guess someone did it during the day and it had dried before I got in bed that night. agh!!! tonya Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescueClick Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/joinhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/Southern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/
Re: (Pee Club) and for Michelle......over grooming again :(
I had it compounded into a cream for her ears to make it easier to give it to her. She is overgrooming her tummy and her 2 back legs to where there is very little hair yet. The vet says it's allergies and recommended prednisolone. We tried the baths, but she really HATED that! her benadryl dose is 25 mg. twice daily. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the dose, and why is shegetting it? And why in her ears? You can actually give Benadryl orally to cats, the dosage is 1MG per pound, so since a tablet is 25MG, you'd need to give a little less than 1/2 a tablet to a 10 pound cat, or if you buy the capsules, you can dissolve the opened capsule's powder into a bit of water, shake well, and only give 1/3 of the liquid, OR use children's benadryl liquid, but I'm not sure the strength of that, so you'd have to do the math. When you say she is overgrooming, do you mean she is cleaning one spot until she has no hair left? For Mythic's skin itchies, I just used a good quality aloe cat shampoo and bathed him once a week, and it seemed to help him a lot. The vet gave me a special shampoo, but I found some stuff at the hardware store that seems to help even more. The stuff the vet sold me is made by Virbac, and it's called Epi-Soothe Shampoo (label says available through vets only, and no number). The stuff that works better for Mythic, is made by TropiClean, and it's called Aloe Moist Natural Shampoo (1-800-542-7387). I wont ever buy any other kind of shampoo again, it's really awesome stuff, smells great too. Mythic also got shots at the vet for a while, I'd have to dig up his records to tell you what it was though. They only last for a couple of weeks, wasn't really worth the trip. Changing his food to one with no grains helped more than anything, his hair is still thin, but he does not scratch much at all now. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~DD is still overgrooming with the benadryl cream. It doesn't seem to effect her. Her dosage is 1mL twice daily (alternate ears)do you remember what you used? I saved some other ideas I may try next, but the pharmacist said my prescription was a very 'low' dose. I wonder if my vet prescribed a low dose because she didn't think it would work and I insisted on trying it? My vet can be like thatNo virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005
Re: (Pee Club) and for Michelle and ear cream
Hey Tonya, I just attempted to have some Chlorphenarimine / Chlor Trimeton compounded into an ear cream. They got it wrong and made a liquid for oral consumption. The pharmacy said the ear cream would be $50. I'm curious - how much do you get and how much does it cost? I didn't know you could give kitties Benadryl, so interested in that. My problem is Lancelot - got him in January,February - declawed, outdoors for two months. He had the sniffles. I've tried everything - Lysine, Interferon, antibiotics, most recently a depo shot, which of course did help some. THought I'd do the ear cream because he's so hard to pill. Anyhow - any suggestions are appreciated, and info on *ear cream* ! Gloria At 12:26 PM 7/2/2005, you wrote: I had it compounded into a cream for her ears to make it easier to give it to her. She is overgrooming her tummy and her 2 back legs to where there is very little hair yet. The vet says it's allergies and recommended prednisolone. We tried the baths, but she really HATED that! her benadryl dose is 25 mg. twice daily. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the dose, and why is she getting it? And why in her ears? You can actually give Benadryl orally to cats, the dosage is 1MG per pound, so since a tablet is 25MG, you'd need to give a little less than 1/2 a tablet to a 10 pound cat, or if you buy the capsules, you can dissolve the opened capsule's powder into a bit of water, shake well, and only give 1/3 of the liquid, OR use children's benadryl liquid, but I'm not sure the strength of that, so you'd have to do the math. When you say she is overgrooming, do you mean she is cleaning one spot until she has no hair left? For Mythic's skin itchies, I just used a good quality aloe cat shampoo and bathed him once a week, and it seemed to help him a lot. The vet gave me a special shampoo, but I found some stuff at the hardware store that seems to help even more. The stuff the vet sold me is made by Virbac, and it's called Epi-Soothe Shampoo (label says available through vets only, and no number). The stuff that works better for Mythic, is made by TropiClean, and it's called Aloe Moist Natural Shampoo (1-800-542-7387). I wont ever buy any other kind of shampoo again, it's really awesome stuff, smells great too. Mythic also got shots at the vet for a while, I'd have to dig up his records to tell you what it was though. They only last for a couple of weeks, wasn't really worth the trip. Changing his food to one with no grains helped more than anything, his hair is still thin, but he does not scratch much at all now. Jenn http://ucat.us/http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ DD is still overgrooming with the benadryl cream. It doesn't seem to effect her. Her dosage is 1mL twice daily (alternate ears) do you remember what you used? I saved some other ideas I may try next, but the pharmacist said my prescription was a very 'low' dose. I wonder if my vet prescribed a low dose because she didn't think it would work and I insisted on trying it? My vet can be like that No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005
Long distance travel with kitties
Hello Everybody I am at Corpus Christi with my two cats (Adri and Chema) Ive been here for 2 weeks. The veterinarian advised me sedate the cats with Benadryl. One week before the trip I gave them benadryl. Adri was ok, but Chema srtated to foaming, running like crazy, he scared me. After 1 hour he began to calm down. I decided do not to give them benadryl. I followed all your advices; I bought a crate, a small sand box and sprayed felinway in the entire truck cabin etc... I thought we were going to travel tight, (my sister, the cats and I) but the trip was comfortable enough. They were very stressed while the truck was load (at Jackson) and unload (at corpus Christi) I left them in the bathroom. The first day we drove the truck by 14 hours. Chema did not want to eat anything and he was breathing as a dog (with the tongue outside), Adri slept all the way. NONE of them wanted to use the sand box (for 14 hours). At the hotel that night, I putted together the sandbox they use every day at home. They were pleased. (They never wanted to use small sand box I bought them). The second day we drove for 5 hours. I believe that they have adapted very well to the new apartment. Now the outside birds are driving them crazy. I think it is very nice to hear birds early in the mornings and late in the afternoons, but clearly they do not agree with me. I believe they want to chase those birds. Now, I need to look for a veterinarian here. These last days I see Adri pale, (although she is eating and playing well). Chema is down he is eating less than usual and does not want be petted. Alejandra From: tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: I NEED HELP -Long distance Traveling with kittiesDate: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:21:05 -0700 (PDT)Hi Martha!Don't worry, you can take your cats with you and it really ISN'T difficult to do. The trick is you need the right type of crate for them where you can put a litter box and a scrap of rubber-backed rug, and off you go.1) Do you have a PetSmart near you? If so you can pick up a small DOG crate, open wire, plastic tray bottom (collapsable) for about $40 ea. They stand about 3 foot x 2.5 x 3 foot and you can fit two in the back seat of a small compact car. (I shoved two in the back of my Chevy Metro just last summer).2) Assemble crate and place a rug remnant ($1.00 each at most carpet stores- they use them as color samples) in the crate's bottom.3) Purchase a plastic kitten-sized litter pan for each crate. Punch two holes, horizontally about 1/2" from the upper lip of each pan, on one of the lengthier sides of the pan.4) Thread a plastic covered twistie (you can get from a box of lawn and leaf bags, or purchase separately). You may have to twist two or three securely together to give you the length you'll need.5) Place a litter pan in each crate...position at the shorter width end, and using twistie, secure pan to bars of crate. -cover pan bottom with a thin layer of litter.6) Put one kitty in each crate, put crates in car's back seat.7) The crates are open wire, so you can thread the rear seat belt through the bottom of the side of them and then fasten it as you would around a child...to keep them from moving too much.8) If kitties are nervous travellers, you can get Feliaway or another herbal cat calmitive and administer. Feliaway can be sprayed on rug in crate...or in carthe herbalsome kind of flower extract (Bach maybe...help me out here folks, perhaps someone else knows the name), can be rubbed in earsBoth work rather well. (If kitties get nauseousdon't feed three hours before begining travel).9) Add to car, bottled water -room temp., two small bowls for water, (if you want to put in crate you can...just be certain to secure them to bars, and only add a very little bit of water b/c it'll slosh around), plenty of plastic bags, paper towels a scooper (for removing cat hack or litter box waste), a handfull of extra towels...(incase kitty gets sick...wipe up rug as best as you can, and cover with terricloth towel...no one likes to travel messy, dirty or smelly).10) Cover car seat behind secured crates with old beach towel or the like just incase of spraying or projectile vomiting...(not usual, but just in case).11) Carry a copy of both kitties' vet records with you...just incase there is need (accident or the like- not usual of course...but I've found if you are prepared, you won't need it) to stop at an emergency vet along the way, there will be no need for second guessing or over testing. Its also a good thing to have your vet recommend, or someone from this list recommend a vet near where you are moving and fax the cats' records down there ahead of youjust in case you loose your copies on the move.12) As you drive, play the radio...just not too loud...crack a window or two...but not too much, just enough for fresh air for everyone...The new smells will keep them interested,
......over grooming again :(
Thanks Michelle, I may try upping her dosage. I doubt I could get the amatryptoline because my vet insists it's allergies and not behavioral. (although I disagree.) I'm hoping when I move and have more space she will be less stressed and stop some of this. Basically it just scares me sh*tless because it's how I lost my first leukemia cat. She was a very timid cat and HATED going to the vet, so I didn't take her in until she did havea raw place. They gave her a half dose shot of pred. and then she came down with an upper resp. infection and had a herpes relapse, etc... and I lost her. She would NOT be medicated. I don't want DD to overgroom to that point, and I don't really want to put her on pred. and I don't want to take her to the vet more than necessary. I know she's a different cat, and not timid etc... In fact I can easily mediate her, I guess it's just fear from having been through the same thing with CC and losing her. Thank you for the info. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that is the dose that Patches gets. It's been so long that I've been doing it and I go by the unit marks on the syringes, that I have forgotten the actual dose. Patches may get more, actually. I think the vet had said to give her 6 mg of benadryl orally, so I assume he would have prescribed at least as much transdermally. You can try giving her 6 mg (1/4 of an over-the-counter 25 mg pill) orally. It would be ok-- my vet said they can get a whole 25 mg pill for extreme anxiety and recommended I give a whole one to Lucy when we move because she freaks out so much in the car. I should tell you that even with the benadryl cream Patches does still overgroom, in that the hair never fully grows back on her belly and back legs. But without it she is totally bald there and licks herself raw, She at least has some hair there on the benadryl and feliway (diffuser plus I spray the edges of the room she hangs out in most every morning and, if I remember, at night). Amitryptaline seems to be used for a lot of anxiety-caused behavior problems. Maybe it would help with this? Michelle In a message dated 7/2/05 1:23:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DD is still overgrooming with the benadryl cream. It doesn't seem to effect her. Her dosage is 1mL twice daily (alternate ears)do you remember what you used? I saved some other ideas I may try next, but the pharmacist said my prescription was a very 'low' dose. I wonder if my vet prescribed a low dose because she didn't think it would work and I insisted on trying it? My vet can be like that
Re: ......over grooming again :(
Tonya, You may not think I'm crazy, though lots and lots of people do :) ... Grace has a tendency to itch, scratch and groom, (nasty pulling out hair kind of grooming), when she's been stressed. Something that has really helped with her, is having our quality time together, just her and me. When I finally collapse in front of the TV at night, I'll call her over for a cuddle session. I tell her this is our time, that she's so special to me, I even whisper in her ear, (so the others don't hear :) ), that she's my favorite! I started doing this when she was fussing with herself and it helped. Now, she'll jump in my lap before I even settle on the couch! It's not easy finding one-on-one time with so many, but I do my best to try. I've taken in the Chow/Husky pups my mom rescued, (I'm telling you, they are FOSTERS!), so we're now up to 6 cats and 6 dogs! Isn't that nice, a even dozen, even the sexes come out even! Nina catatonya wrote: Thanks Michelle, I may try upping her dosage. I doubt I could get the amatryptoline because my vet insists it's allergies and not behavioral. (although I disagree.) I'm hoping when I move and have more space she will be less stressed and stop some of this. Basically it just scares me sh*tless because it's how I lost my first leukemia cat. She was a very timid cat and HATED going to the vet, so I didn't take her in until she did have a raw place. They gave her a half dose shot of pred. and then she came down with an upper resp. infection and had a herpes relapse, etc... and I lost her. She would NOT be medicated. I don't want DD to overgroom to that point, and I don't really want to put her on pred. and I don't want to take her to the vet more than necessary. I know she's a different cat, and not timid etc... In fact I can easily mediate her, I guess it's just fear from having been through the same thing with CC and losing her. Thank you for the info. t *//*
Re: OT - 2 things
That's so funny. Bruce woke up this morning to catch Grace peeing on the clothes he once again left by the side of the bed. I couldn't help thinking that I'd somehow brought it on with all the pee talk yesterday! Nina catatonya wrote: I tie. I've been peed on in bed before too! More than once. And after running my mouth last night, this morning I found 2 loose poops and get to clean the carpet! peeeuw t
Re: (Pee Club) and for Michelle and ear cream
Hi Gloria, I'm not familiar with Chlor Trimeton. My benadryl ear cream was about 36 dollars including shipping and handling I believe. I got 3 tubes with 10 doses each. So it was only about 2 weeks worth! However, it didn't help. I think I'm going to go with oral benedryl and try upping the dosage a bit before going on to something else. Also, on a different cat I tried the ear cream for tapazole and my cat was allergic to it. It caused her ears to break out. :( tonya"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Tonya,I just attempted to have some Chlorphenarimine / Chlor Trimeton compounded into an ear cream. They got it wrong and made a liquid for oral consumption. The pharmacy said the ear cream would be $50.I'm curious - how much do you get and how much does it cost?I didn't know you could give kitties Benadryl, so interested in that.My problem is Lancelot - got him in January,February - declawed, outdoors for two months. He had the sniffles. I've tried everything - Lysine, Interferon, antibiotics, most recently a depo shot, which of course did help some. THought I'd do the ear cream because he's so hard to pill.Anyhow - any suggestions are appreciated, and info on *ear cream* !GloriaAt 12:26 PM 7/2/2005, you wrote:I had it compounded into a cream for her ears to make it easier to give it to her. She is overgrooming her tummy and her 2 back legs to where there is very little hair yet. The vet says it's allergies and recommended prednisolone. We tried the baths, but she really HATED that!her benadryl dose is 25 mg. twice daily.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:What is the dose, and why is she getting it? And why in her ears? You can actually give Benadryl orally to cats, the dosage is 1MG per pound, so since a tablet is 25MG, you'd need to give a little less than 1/2 a tablet to a 10 pound cat, or if you buy the capsules, you can dissolve the opened capsule's powder into a bit of water, shake well, and only give 1/3 of the liquid, OR use children's benadryl liquid, but I'm not sure the strength of that, so you'd have to do the math. When you say she is overgrooming, do you mean she is cleaning one spot until she has no hair left? For Mythic's skin itchies, I just used a good quality aloe cat shampoo and bathed him once a week, and it seemed to help him a lot. The vet gave me a special shampoo, but I found some stuff at the hardware store that seems to help even more. The stuff the vet sold me is made by Virbac, and it's called Epi-Soothe Shampoo (label says available through vets only, and no number). The stuff that works better for Mythic, is made by TropiClean, and it's called Aloe Moist Natural Shampoo (1-800-542-7387). I wont ever buy any other kind of shampoo again, it's really awesome stuff, smells great too. Mythic also got shots at the vet for a while, I'd have to dig up his records to tell you what it was though. They only last for a couple of weeks, wasn't really worth the trip. Changing his food to one with no grains helped more than anything, his hair is still thin, but he does not scratch much at all now.Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html~~~DD is still overgrooming with the benadryl cream. It doesn't seem to effect her. Her dosage is 1mL twice daily (alternate ears) do you remember what you used? I saved some other ideas I may try next, but the pharmacist said my prescription was a very 'low' dose. I wonder if my vet prescribed a low dose because she didn't think it would work and I insisted on trying it? My vet can be like thatNo virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005
sniffles-gloria
Has herpes been ruled out? allergies? I recently had a cat with a sinus infection that was given zythromax. What antibiotics have you used? t"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Tonya,I just attempted to have some Chlorphenarimine / Chlor Trimeton compounded into an ear cream. They got it wrong and made a liquid for oral consumption. The pharmacy said the ear cream would be $50.I'm curious - how much do you get and how much does it cost?I didn't know you could give kitties Benadryl, so interested in that.My problem is Lancelot - got him in January,February - declawed, outdoors for two months. He had the sniffles. I've tried everything - Lysine, Interferon, antibiotics, most recently a depo shot, which of course did help some. THought I'd do the ear cream because he's so hard to pill.Anyhow - any suggestions are appreciated, and info on *ear cream* !GloriaAt 12:26 PM 7/2/2005, you wrote:I had it compounded into a cream for her ears to make it easier to give it to her. She is overgrooming her tummy and her 2 back legs to where there is very little hair yet. The vet says it's allergies and recommended prednisolone. We tried the baths, but she really HATED that!her benadryl dose is 25 mg. twice daily.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:What is the dose, and why is she getting it? And why in her ears? You can actually give Benadryl orally to cats, the dosage is 1MG per pound, so since a tablet is 25MG, you'd need to give a little less than 1/2 a tablet to a 10 pound cat, or if you buy the capsules, you can dissolve the opened capsule's powder into a bit of water, shake well, and only give 1/3 of the liquid, OR use children's benadryl liquid, but I'm not sure the strength of that, so you'd have to do the math. When you say she is overgrooming, do you mean she is cleaning one spot until she has no hair left? For Mythic's skin itchies, I just used a good quality aloe cat shampoo and bathed him once a week, and it seemed to help him a lot. The vet gave me a special shampoo, but I found some stuff at the hardware store that seems to help even more. The stuff the vet sold me is made by Virbac, and it's called Epi-Soothe Shampoo (label says available through vets only, and no number). The stuff that works better for Mythic, is made by TropiClean, and it's called Aloe Moist Natural Shampoo (1-800-542-7387). I wont ever buy any other kind of shampoo again, it's really awesome stuff, smells great too. Mythic also got shots at the vet for a while, I'd have to dig up his records to tell you what it was though. They only last for a couple of weeks, wasn't really worth the trip. Changing his food to one with no grains helped more than anything, his hair is still thin, but he does not scratch much at all now.Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html~~~DD is still overgrooming with the benadryl cream. It doesn't seem to effect her. Her dosage is 1mL twice daily (alternate ears) do you remember what you used? I saved some other ideas I may try next, but the pharmacist said my prescription was a very 'low' dose. I wonder if my vet prescribed a low dose because she didn't think it would work and I insisted on trying it? My vet can be like thatNo virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005
Re: Long distance travel with kitties
Hi Alejandra, I'm glad you all made it and are getting settled. It sounds like your cats did pretty well on the long trip! I hope Adri and Chema check out well at the vet's. They still may just be 'adjusting' and may feel better on their own soon, but I would be concerned about the paleness. good luck in Texas! tonyaMartha Alejandra Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everybody I am at Corpus Christi with my two cats (Adri and Chema) Ive been here for 2 weeks. The veterinarian advised me sedate the cats with Benadryl. One week before the trip I gave them benadryl. Adri was ok, but Chema srtated to foaming, running like crazy, he scared me. After 1 hour he began to calm down. I decided do not to give them benadryl. I followed all your advices; I bought a crate, a small sand box and sprayed felinway in the entire truck cabin etc... I thought we were going to travel tight, (my sister, the cats and I) but the trip was comfortable enough. They were very stressed while the truck was load (at Jackson) and unload (at corpus Christi) I left them in the bathroom. The first day we drove the truck by 14 hours. Chema did not want to eat anything and he was breathing as a dog (with the tongue outside), Adri slept all the way. NONE of them wanted to use the sand box (for 14 hours). At the hotel that night, I putted together the sandbox they use every day at home. They were pleased. (They never wanted to use small sand box I bought them). The second day we drove for 5 hours. I believe that they have adapted very well to the new apartment. Now the outside birds are driving them crazy. I think it is very nice to hear birds early in the mornings and late in the afternoons, but clearly they do not agree with me. I believe they want to chase those birds. Now, I need to look for a veterinarian here. These last days I see Adri pale, (although she is eating and playing well). Chema is down he is eating less than usual and does not want be petted. Alejandra
Re: ......over grooming again :(
I agree about the stress. It's strange, too, but she has always slept with me and recently she hasn't been doing so. So in the past we've always had 'together' time more than lately. I don't know what's going on with her right now, but there have been no changes good or bad to the amount of overgrooming. tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonya,You may not think I'm crazy, though lots and lots of people do :) ...Grace has a tendency to itch, scratch and groom, (nasty pulling out hair kind of grooming), when she's been stressed. Something that has really helped with her, is having our "quality" time together, just her and me. When I finally collapse in front of the TV at night, I'll call her over for a cuddle session. I tell her this is our time, that she's so special to me, I even whisper in her ear, (so the others don't hear :) ), that she's my favorite! I started doing this when she was fussing with herself and it helped. Now, she'll jump in my lap before I even settle on the couch! It's not easy finding one-on-one time with so many, but I do my best to try. I've taken in the Chow/Husky pups my mom rescued, (I'm telling you, they are FOSTERS!), so we're now up to 6 cats and 6 dogs! Isn't that nice, a even dozen, even the sexes come out even!Ninacatatonya wrote: Thanks Michelle, I may try upping her dosage. I doubt I could get the amatryptoline because my vet insists it's allergies and not behavioral. (although I disagree.) I'm hoping when I move and have more space she will be less stressed and stop some of this. Basically it just scares me sh*tless because it's how I lost my first leukemia cat. She was a very timid cat and HATED going to the vet, so I didn't take her in until she did have a raw place. They gave her a half dose shot of pred. and then she came down with an upper resp. infection and had a herpes relapse, etc... and I lost her. She would NOT be medicated. I don't want DD to overgroom to that point, and I don't really want to put her on pred. and I don't want to take her to the vet more than necessary. I know she's a different cat, and not timid etc... In fact I can easily mediate her, I guess it's just fear from having been through the same thing with CC and losing her. Thank you for the info. t *//*
Angel Wings: I have sent two cats to AW
I have sent two FIV+ cats to Angel Wings. Please let me know who I should contact to inquire about them. Thank you. Sally Quillian Ms. Kitty's Cat Rescue, Inc.www.mskittyscatrescue.org
Re: Anyone know how immuno regulin is administered?
Once again Michelle, I'm so very grateful to you. I sent the text of your and Kyle's emails to the vet, and I checked they got there before she left for the holiday weekend. (She said she had never used immunoregulin, so now she has something to read over the weekend!) Flavia's PCV count was maintained at 17 today. Of course,I was relieved. We go back on Tuesday.I'm still trying to figure out how to make the IR (if I go ahead) worklogistically while I'm gone. (I leave on Wed evening.) Flavia is feral, so it's not an easy matter to put her in a carrier, and I'm not sure any of my friends are up to doing that. (The petsitter is going to be stretched to her limit with all her clients because her helper just left.) I'll have to put some thought into this... One step at a time many thanks again Michelle. love and hugs, Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:47 PM Subject: Re: Anyone know how immuno regulin is administered? No hospitalization is required. A vet is only needed to do it because it is an IV injection. If you know someone who can do IV injections, or if you want to get a house call vet to do it, that is all that is needed. The dose is every 3 days or once a week for the first 2 weeks, then once a week thereafter. She may need another transfusion too, and/or another shot of dexamethasone depending on what is happening that is making her HCT fall like that. Is she sluggish? One word of caution-- IR causes fever and chills and some other side effects in a small percentage of cats. It caused very high fever with Ginger (105.8) and chills for about an hour, but I do think it helped her get over her URI and start eating again. My cat Patches got it with no side effects and I think it helped her get over pneumonia quickly. My only hope that IR will help with anemia is from that article on our website, but I hope it does. I think it might be hard to administer to a feral, but if they gave her a transfusion that is IV too (though her HCT was so low that she probably could not fight or care at that point). Are you leaving your pet sitter with instructions about things to do if she seems to be more anemic? I think there is a good chance her HCT will fall while you are gone even if you get it back up now. You might want to do another transfusion if you can before you leave, since the last one seems to have helped her for over 2 weeks, right? Maybe it will get her through your trip? Michelle In a message dated 7/1/05 6:26:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kerry, I'm sorry the hematocrit went down. I don't know that much about the numbers, but it seems that's not a huge drop. When I used immunoregulin I had to take my cat in for injections. I believe we started out every other day or even every day, and then tapered down. With a feral cat I don't know if that's the way to go. My cat was very skittish, and after all she went through with the immunoregulin vet visits and then the eye drops treatment for herpes she was always semiferal after that.. I hope your next test shows no drop in the hematocrit. You and Flavia are in my thoughts and prayers. tonyaKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyoneFlavia's test was not so good last night--her hematocrit went down from 21to17. I'm taking her again on Saturday for the same test. I wish so muchthat I wasn't going out of the country on Wednesday--it is such bad timing.Michelle had suggested I read the article on immunoregulin posted on thisgroup's site--how it had been successful in treating FeLV cats with varioussymptoms including severe anemia. My Q is, does anyone know what's involvedwith immunoregulin treatment --does it involve hospitalization for severaldays? I'm not keen to do that--Flavia is feral, and gets very stressed outby human contact and change. If anyone has any experience of treating akitty with immunoregulin I'd really appreciate any info.Thanks, Kerry
Re: Flavia's PCV count maintained at 17
Hi Kerry, I hope the hematocrit starts back up! Could you possibly keep Flavia crated while you're gone? tonyaKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone Well, we went to the vet again today, and much to my relief, Flavia's count remains at 17! So, so far, between June 22 and today it's gone: 6-7.5; 21; 21; 17; 17. She lost 3 oz weight. (When they first weighed her, she had "lost a pound"--I said that couldn't possibly be right--surely? So they started again, and this time she was 8lb 12 oz. She was 8lb 15oz the last 2 visits.) We go back on Tuesday again. And I have to leave on Wednesday evening. I'm trying to figure a way to start the immunoregulin on Tuesday, as it will have to be continued while I'm not here(have already primed the vet, to get a jump on the holiday--she's new, I haven't even met her yet--and emailed her info from Kyle; plus she has the 3 articlesposted on the website). This will be the challenge over the next 2 days! Thank to all of you wonderful people for your support and god wishes--please continue sending good vibes for Flavia. Kerry
Re: Angel Wings: I have sent two cats to AW
That would be me. I need detailed descriptions (colors, markings, patterns, hair length, eye color, body shape, tail length, etc) and any photos you have of them. Are you interested in taking them back, or able to sponsor them if they are found? Where are you located, if you want them back? Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ I have sent two FIV+ cats to Angel Wings. Please let me know who I should contact to inquire about them. Thank you. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005
Re: (Pee Club) and for Michelle......over grooming again :(
That is a HIGH dose for a cat. If that's not helping at that dose, I'd try something else. Have you tried changing to a no grain food yet? Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005
Re: Angel Wings: I have sent two cats to AW
Hi Jan, Got the new application ready and the new graphoc but petfinder's FTP is down, so I can't put them up :( Will try again tomorrow! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT - 2 things
I really just do not know what he was thinking. I still ask myself WHY? What was the purpose of that. I guess we must have pissed him off earlier that day, and he was just out for revenge. LOL! Then there was the one time he ran out the back door (this was about a month before the bed peeing episode). So we run out into the yard, to try to catch him, and as we approach, he growls and folds his ears back. So we kneel down, and try to sweet talk him into letting us catch him, but then he begins to make this horrible WAILING sound, intermixed with growls and hisses. At this point, I'm like, whoa, he is serious, he does NOT want to come back in, and I say, well, he will come back in a while. My boyfriend, on the other hand, is not going to let Doobie risk his life just for a night out catting, so I go up to the steps and sit down, and watch, and he approaches Doobie. He reaches down, amidst this HORRIBLE wailing and growling, and goes to grab Doobie, and bring him in, and as he is bending down to get him, Doobie suddenly just comes FLYING through the air at his face, arms outstretched, and claws flying, making the most horrific sound you have ever hear from a cat. In fact it was SO scary that I doubt any of you have ever HEARD a cat make this kind of noise (he sounded like a jaguar)! And so Jeff, (that's my boyfriend's name) jumps back real quick, and luckily, Doobie only gets his shin. Jeff's got blood running down his leg, and Doobie is now in crouched down pissed off cat mode, and making more of those noises, so Jeff finally says "Ok man, you win!" and as we watch, Doobie goes through a hole in the back fence and disappears. Now, mind you, we are worried to death, but it's only about 5 PM, so I figure, when it's getting dark, Doobie will probably come home (I'm hoping he can FIND his way home, since he has NEVER been outside before). We pace the floors for about 2 hours, and then I go out into the back yard, and call Doobie (He comes to Frank Sinatra's "Strangers in the Night" tune of "Doobie-doobie do, doob doobie doobie, Doobie-doobie Do!) and low and behold, Doobie's body appears over the top of the fence, and he jumps down back into the yard, and walks up to me like "Hey, what's up, how's it going?" as if NOTHING ever happened! He gets closer, and I see he is limping, on one leg, and his face is all clawed up... He'd been out fighting, I'm sure, over a female (mind you, he's not neutered yet, and he's almost 18 months old). So, I open the door, and let him in, and one of our other rescue cats at the time, LAYS into him, and basically kicks his butt, right there in the kitchen. As if to say, "Hey you moron, where did you think YOU were going, I'm going to show you where YOUR place is!". So, in the end, he abscessed in 3 legs, and once on his neck, and he couldn't walk for about 2 weeks straight. But, I tell you what, I found a new respect for domestic cats after that day. I never FEARED housecats before, but that day, I learned, IF they wanted to, they could KILL YOU! He has, to this day, NEVER repeated that type of behavior. We are not sure what the deal was that day, but we are glad he got over it! Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Well, you have the #1 disaster so farto pee on you while you were sleeping! If this was a contest, you would win ... or Doobie would win. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005
Re: Angel Wings: I have sent two cats to AW
Opps, sent my email to the wrong address, sorry :( Hi Jan, Got the new application ready and the new graphoc but petfinder's FTP is down, so I can't put them up :( Will try again tomorrow! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: (Pee Club) and for Michelle......over grooming again :(
Lol! I was wrong on the dosage. It's 25 mg per mL, but the dose is .1 mL, so it's 2.5 grams per dose or 5 grams total per day. We all eat ivd modified formula from the vet because of bob's bladder problems.. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a HIGH dose for a cat. If that's not helping at that dose, I'd try something else. Have you tried changing to a no grain food yet? Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005
Re: OT - 2 things
LOL! Well, I take him out now on a leash sometimes, and he's never acted TOO violent, though he has given me "the look" a few times if I tried to tell him it was time to go in too soon. I tell you what WE didn't know HIM either! This is my BABY, mind you, my absolute favorite cat, my angel. I bottle fed this guy. This is him, his most recent picture, taken about 2 weeks ago: http://kittenwar.com/kittens/21722/ Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ You answered your own question as to why Doobie acted so weird and terrified ... since he had never been outside before the incident, he spooked really bad and didn'tknow either you or Jeff. We have had a couple of episodes with cats that got out when they never had before and they did freak horribly although didn't react quite like Doobie. He wins a gold star performance. If he gets outside again, Do Be careful of Doobie ... I couldn't resist Del No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005
