Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
My heart is breaking for you Hideyo. I pray that there will be a miracle? If not, then a peaceful passing for Naomi.Gina Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask everyone one more time to send Naomi prayers and peaceful energy so that she can spend her final days peacefully without pain.. while I am trying to do what I can to save her life.. there is not much left.. she is losing her blood so quickly and very anemic.. and she is too small and cant get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure her.. but I also believe that there is life after this life and she will be happier and heading to a better new life I just wish I could spend for time with her.. I wish I could stay home and be with her.. as I work here, I am sending her love and prayer for her peace No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
retrovirus seminar in St Loius, MO next week....
arggh, too bad i didn't think to check out their seminar schedule in a more timely manner--anyone have vet or tech contacts in the area who might be able to attend and share any new info? http://www.idexx.com/animalhealth/education/seminars/evans.jsp-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
RE: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
Hideyo, I send prayers as well. Naomi feels your love surrounding her..Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa JohnsonSent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. Hideyo, I am praying for you and for Naomi and sending thoughts of peace and comfort your way. I cannot even imagine having to be at work while my baby is at home making her final journey...it must be torture for you! But know that you have done everything you can possibly do and that because of you she has known love, companionship, and a quality of care that she otherwise would not have had. She is lucky tohave you! Hugs!! MarissaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask everyone one more time to send Naomi prayers and peaceful energy so that she can spend her final days peacefully without pain.. while I am trying to do what I can to save her life.. there is not much left.. she is losing her blood so quickly and very anemic.. and she is too small and cant get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure her.. but I also believe that there is life after this life and she will be happier and heading to a better new life I just wish I could spend for time with her.. I wish I could stay home and be with her.. as I work here, I am sending her love and prayer for her peace Do you Yahoo!?Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: New member
Welcome. Hope your sick one will be better soon. elizabeth In a message dated 7/31/2006 9:33:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just joined, I'm Marta from Nebraska, some of you already know me from other lists. I have no FeLV kitties right now_just a FIV+, was diagnosed with FIP almost a year ago but he bounced back so well, most likely that isn't the problem. I'll know more on next vet check up next month. We care for ferals in our town and last Sat took a 4 month old feral kitten to the vet b/c she looked so sick (not sickpuppy sick but very lethargic unlike her, she's so wild I've seen so little of her) She's been running a 105° fever_actually came down 1 degree this morning and upon tests was found very anemic, with an URI and coccidia_ so she's on subq's, Metacam (strange shouldn't have M reduced the fever by now, she got it this morning) and a combo of doxy and baytril for blood parasytes. They're feeding her Nutrical. I've thought of FIP or leuk as a possibility but she tested negative on the combo test (means little I know)_her mom was negative when we TNR' her_and she being a feral it sort of cuts the chances of having FIP but I don't know. We're hoping the doxy cocktail will work for her anemia, I'll know more tomorrow. I've been following the immuno regulin thread_Hideyo , I'm so sorry, sending prayers and best vibes for your little one_would it work on infectious anemia? Thank-you very much and thank-you for this list. Marta
Re: New member
Welcome to Marta! Some on the list use Immunoregulin sub-q and report it works well. I'd sure try it - Too bad folks blame illness on FIP (and FELV) when really they just don't know what it is.Gloria in Arkansas In a message dated 7/31/2006 9:33:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just joined, I'm Marta from Nebraska, some of you already know me from other lists. I have no FeLV kitties right now_just a FIV+, was diagnosed with FIP almost a year ago but he bounced back so well, most likely that isn't the problem. I'll know more on next vet check up next month. We care for ferals in our town and last Sat took a 4 month old feral kitten to the vet b/c she looked so sick (not sick puppy sick but very lethargic unlike her, she's so wild I've seen so little of her) She's been running a 105° fever_actually came down 1 degree this morning and upon tests was found very anemic, with an URI and coccidia_ so she's on subq's, Metacam (strange shouldn't have M reduced the fever by now, she got it this morning) and a combo of doxy and baytril for blood parasytes. They're feeding her Nutrical. I've thought of FIP or leuk as a possibility but she tested negative on the combo test (means little I know)_her mom was negative when we TNR' her_and she being a feral it sort of cuts the chances of having FIP but I don't know. We're hoping the doxy cocktail will work for her anemia, I'll know more tomorrow. I've been following the immuno regulin thread_Hideyo , I'm so sorry, sending prayers and best vibes for your little one_would it work on infectious anemia? Thank-you very much and thank-you for this list. Marta
Re: Diabetic dog groups and life!
Here are a couple of yahoo groups for people with canines with diabetes, I don't know anything about them personally: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiabeticDogs/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DogswithDiabetes/ -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Thoughts for Lucy please
Title: Message Sending lots of positive vibes that all will go well for Lucy today. When you get time do please let us know how she is. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:23 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Thoughts for Lucy please My Lucy went in to the vet's tonight and will be spayed tomorrow. My vet is taking all the recommended precautions but I'm still a little nervous so please send strong healthy kitty thoughts to Lucy. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: New member
I don't think IR would directly attack infectious anemia, but I think that it would boost the immune system so that it could fight it better along with antibiotics. I have used IR in conjunction with abx. Michelle In a message dated 8/1/2006 12:33:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been following the immuno regulin thread_Hideyo , I'm so sorry, sending prayers and best vibes for your little one_would it work on infectious anemia?
Vitamins, Supplements, Etc.
Hi all! Thanks SO MUCH for all your advice and thoughts about Slinky! I've been telling my friends that joining this group is one of the best things I ever did!!!I have a quick question (one of MANY to come I'm sure) for all of you. I mentioned in my original post that I got some vitamins and a digestive track thing for Slink at the natural pet food store. Both are Ark Naturals brand. The vitamins are called "Nu-Pet Feline Granular...Powerful Vitamin Antioxideant Formula...Green Food Phytonutrients Plus Taurine." Says it has wheat sprout commplex, alfalfa grass, vit. A, vit C, vit E, fish protein, carbs, bioflavinoids, L-Taurine, L-Glutathione, L-Cysteine, and Selenium. The digestive track thing is called Gentle Digest (includes prebiotics and probiotics). Says it has Lactic Acid Bacilus (L+), min. 50 million vialbe spores per capsule, and Chicory. Then under ingreds it says Dicalcium phosphate, rice flour, chicory root, lactic acide bacilius, and magnesium stearate.Does anyone know anything about these supplements? Are they good? Is there something better? Would I be better off to make one of the homemade versions people have sent recipes for? Or should I do that in addition to these?Any suggestions for getting him to take these? I tried mixing them into canned food and he didn't eat much...but that was when I was trying everything new and he's not used to canned food yet so he may go for it once he gets used to the canned by itself. I broke the gentle digest capsules and put the powder in the food. Is there a better way to get him to swallow the capsule?Thanks again for all your help! I feel so ignorant...but I guess that's what happens when you're trying to do something totally new for the first time! Glad you all are so knowledgeable and willing to help!!!I hope all your little ones are doing well. MJ Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: Thoughts for Lucy please
Hi Elizabeth, We all understand your nervousness! I bite my fingernails to the quick whenever one of my charges goes in for surgery. I'll be thinking of Lucy and you today and sending positive, calming energy. She's a strong little cookie and you've done everything to insure her safety. Let us know when she's home safe and sound. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Lucy went in to the vet's tonight and will be spayed tomorrow. My vet is taking all the recommended precautions but I'm still a little nervous so please send strong healthy kitty thoughts to Lucy.
Re: Thanks for welcome and more
Thank-you everybody for the welcome, I'm sure I'll learn much here. The little feral isn't responding to meds and today I found one her siblings just like the 1st one. At the vet now undergoing (when they get to it) tests and more. I've a tiny bit of hope because this one put up more of a fight and she doesn't look like the other (genetics) but she seems so weak she might have the same problem.. Abt FIP, etc.When I had Jerome (my fiver) dx the first time the vetsaid FIP diagnosis was based on his symptoms tho he might not have it. Tested pos on both tests for FIV , and he was an adult intact stray when I foundhim so high risk thenhe maybe is truly +. Anyways he's doing great and such a lover.Hideyo, much, much light and positive thoughs for you, no matter how many times you go through it is never easy, I know. Marta.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta
Re: Thoughts for Lucy please
Prayers going out for Lucy. Let us know how she does. :) Wendy --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elizabeth, We all understand your nervousness! I bite my fingernails to the quick whenever one of my charges goes in for surgery. I'll be thinking of Lucy and you today and sending positive, calming energy. She's a strong little cookie and you've done everything to insure her safety. Let us know when she's home safe and sound. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Lucy went in to the vet's tonight and will be spayed tomorrow. My vet is taking all the recommended precautions but I'm still a little nervous so please send strong healthy kitty thoughts to Lucy. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Vitamins, Supplements, Etc.
Hi Marissa, I have used Gentle Digest with my IBD, (inflammatory bowel disease), kitty, Gypsy. It didn't seem to help her much, but she was in pretty sad shape when I was using it. I'm not familiar with Nu-Pet, a couple of the ingredients did get my eyebrows raised, (the wheat sprout complex in particular), maybe someone else is familiar with the product. As an all around vita sup, I use Vetri-Science Nu-Cat Liquid. The one you are using is probably just fine. I am wondering if you might be giving too much, too fast. You're already switching her food, so you might want to take it easy on the sups to begin with, otherwise you might upset her system. Catch me up here, Slinky's not showing any symptoms, right? Don't try to add all of the recommended amount of the sups at first, try just a pinch of each. The Green Food makes me think of Spirulina, or some sort of algae concentrate, like BioPreparation, (http://www.biopreparation.us/index.htm), that has a de-tox effect and can be hard on the system. To get her to eat it, you might try adding sups to baby food, (all meat variety, Beechnut is better because it doesn't contain corn starch, or onions), or a little bit of people tuna. They can then become a special treat and you'll know she got them in her. I do have a trick for getting cats to take pills w/o pilling, but I save that for meds rather than sups. I'm so pleased that you found us and welcome! This is the best supportive and knowledgeable group of people I've ever encountered too! Give Slinky a head butt from me, Nina Marissa Johnson wrote: Hi all! Thanks SO MUCH for all your advice and thoughts about Slinky! I've been telling my friends that joining this group is one of the best things I ever did!!! I have a quick question (one of MANY to come I'm sure) for all of you. I mentioned in my original post that I got some vitamins and a digestive track thing for Slink at the natural pet food store. Both are Ark Naturals brand. The vitamins are called Nu-Pet Feline Granular...Powerful Vitamin Antioxideant Formula...Green Food Phytonutrients Plus Taurine. Says it has wheat sprout commplex, alfalfa grass, vit. A, vit C, vit E, fish protein, carbs, bioflavinoids, L-Taurine, L-Glutathione, L-Cysteine, and Selenium. The digestive track thing is called Gentle Digest (includes prebiotics and probiotics). Says it has Lactic Acid Bacilus (L+), min. 50 million vialbe spores per capsule, and Chicory. Then under ingreds it says Dicalcium phosphate, rice flour, chicory root, lactic acide bacilius, and magnesium stearate.
To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
Thank you to all of you who responded about the herniated disk. I forwarded your messages to my husband at work yesterday. We paid a chiropractor $3500 yesterday for 20 sessions on a spinal decompression machine for lower back pain, a chair for excersizes he can bring home, and a few other items. I hope this helps my husband, because at the rate he's going, he won't be able to continue to work if this doesn't help. I'll let all of you know how it worked. If it doesn't work, hopefully we won't have to worry about pre-existing as he hasn't seen a medical doctor about the problem. I wanted to ask Mary Christine about parafon-forte and soma. Are these both medicines OTC, or does he need a prescrip for them? I have been coaxing my husband each time he has an episode to try to relax and not tense up, but it's hard for him not to. Thank you again for helping us out!!! As always, this site has proved invaluable. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
Isn't Naomi negative? What is causing the anemia? tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask everyone one more time to send Naomi prayers and peaceful energy so that she can spend her final days peacefully without pain.. while I am trying to do what I can to save her life.. there is not much left.. she is losing her blood so quickly and very anemic.. and she is too small and cant get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure her.. but I also believe that there is life after this life and she will be happier and heading to a better new life I just wish I could spend for time with her.. I wish I could stay home and be with her.. as I work here, I am sending her love and prayer for her peace
Re: Vitamins, Supplements, Etc.
Thanks, Nina! And thanks for defining IBD! Wendy sent me her manual...and I'm so glad because I find myself having to look things up a lot! lolWhen I first got the Evo food and the sups, I tried to give him everything at once. That didn't work so well! So I've backed off and just started switching slowly from the Purina dry to the Evo dry (almost down to just Evo). Then I'm going to add the Evo canned and get him used to that. Then I'll try adding the sups. The directions on the Nu-Pet call for one whole scoop (guessing 1 or 2 tablespoons), but I only gave him a little when I tried it. Now I figure that once he's used to the canned food without anything in it, then I'll start slowly adding the sups. If I can't get him to eat it with the sups, I'll try your suggestion of adding it to something more tantalizing.I'm just trying to figure out if I should get a different sup (and where?) or make my own, or use this one. Thanks for the feedback!! And I'll definitely pass on the head butt. :)MJNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marissa,I have used Gentle Digest with my IBD, (inflammatory bowel disease), kitty, Gypsy. It didn't seem to help her much, but she was in pretty sad shape when I was using it. I'm not familiar with Nu-Pet, a couple of the ingredients did get my eyebrows raised, (the wheat sprout complex in particular), maybe someone else is familiar with the product. As an all around vita sup, I use Vetri-Science Nu-Cat Liquid. The one you are using is probably just fine. I am wondering if you might be giving too much, too fast. You're already switching her food, so you might want to take it easy on the sups to begin with, otherwise you might upset her system. Catch me up here, Slinky's not showing any symptoms, right? Don't try to add all of the recommended amount of the sups at first, try just a pinch of each. The "Green Food" makes me think of Spirulina, or some sort of algae concentrate, like BioPreparation, (http://www.biopreparation.us/index.htm), that has a de-tox effect and can be hard on the system. To get her to eat it, you might try adding sups to baby food, (all meat variety, Beechnut is better because it doesn't contain corn starch, or onions), or a little bit of people tuna. They can then become a special treat and you'll know she got them in her. I do have a trick for getting cats to take pills w/o pilling, but I save that for meds rather than sups.I'm so pleased that you found us and welcome! This is the best supportive and knowledgeable group of people I've ever encountered too! Give Slinky a head butt from me,NinaMarissa Johnson wrote: Hi all! Thanks SO MUCH for all your advice and thoughts about Slinky! I've been telling my friends that joining this group is one of the best things I ever did!!! I have a quick question (one of MANY to come I'm sure) for all of you. I mentioned in my original post that I got some vitamins and a digestive track thing for Slink at the natural pet food store. Both are Ark Naturals brand. The vitamins are called "Nu-Pet Feline Granular...Powerful Vitamin Antioxideant Formula...Green Food Phytonutrients Plus Taurine." Says it has wheat sprout commplex, alfalfa grass, vit. A, vit C, vit E, fish protein, carbs, bioflavinoids, L-Taurine, L-Glutathione, L-Cysteine, and Selenium. The digestive track thing is called Gentle Digest (includes prebiotics and probiotics). Says it has Lactic Acid Bacilus (L+), min. 50 million vialbe spores per capsule, and Chicory. Then under ingreds it says Dicalcium phosphate, rice flour, chicory root, lactic acide bacilius, and magnesium stearate. Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: Vitamins, Supplements, Etc.
Some people use Pill Pockets; you can get them at Petsmart. :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! Thanks SO MUCH for all your advice and thoughts about Slinky! I've been telling my friends that joining this group is one of the best things I ever did!!! I have a quick question (one of MANY to come I'm sure) for all of you. I mentioned in my original post that I got some vitamins and a digestive track thing for Slink at the natural pet food store. Both are Ark Naturals brand. The vitamins are called Nu-Pet Feline Granular...Powerful Vitamin Antioxideant Formula...Green Food Phytonutrients Plus Taurine. Says it has wheat sprout commplex, alfalfa grass, vit. A, vit C, vit E, fish protein, carbs, bioflavinoids, L-Taurine, L-Glutathione, L-Cysteine, and Selenium. The digestive track thing is called Gentle Digest (includes prebiotics and probiotics). Says it has Lactic Acid Bacilus (L+), min. 50 million vialbe spores per capsule, and Chicory. Then under ingreds it says Dicalcium phosphate, rice flour, chicory root, lactic acide bacilius, and magnesium stearate. Does anyone know anything about these supplements? Are they good? Is there something better? Would I be better off to make one of the homemade versions people have sent recipes for? Or should I do that in addition to these? Any suggestions for getting him to take these? I tried mixing them into canned food and he didn't eat much...but that was when I was trying everything new and he's not used to canned food yet so he may go for it once he gets used to the canned by itself. I broke the gentle digest capsules and put the powder in the food. Is there a better way to get him to swallow the capsule? Thanks again for all your help! I feel so ignorant...but I guess that's what happens when you're trying to do something totally new for the first time! Glad you all are so knowledgeable and willing to help!!! I hope all your little ones are doing well. MJ - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Vitamins, Supplements, Etc.
Thanks. What are they?? Sorry...before I got Slinky I didn't know friskies from nine lives...much less anything else! :(MJwendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people use Pill Pockets; you can get them atPetsmart.:)Wendy--- Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi all! Thanks SO MUCH for all your advice and thoughts about Slinky! I've been telling my friends that joining this group is one of the best things I ever did!!! I have a quick question (one of MANY to come I'm sure) for all of you. I mentioned in my original post that I got some vitamins and a digestive track thing for Slink at the natural pet food store. Both are Ark Naturals brand. The vitamins are called "Nu-Pet Feline Granular...Powerful Vitamin Antioxideant Formula...Green Food Phytonutrients Plus Taurine." Says it has wheat sprout commplex, alfalfa grass, vit. A, vit C, vit E, fish protein, carbs, bioflavinoids, L-Taurine, L-Glutathione, L-Cysteine, and Selenium. The digestive track thing is called Gentle Digest (includes prebiotics and probiotics). Says it has Lactic Acid Bacilus (L+), min. 50 million vialbe spores per capsule, and Chicory. Then under ingreds it says Dicalcium phosphate, rice flour, chicory root, lactic acide bacilius, and magnesium stearate. Does anyone know anything about these supplements? Are they good? Is there something better? Would I be better off to make one of the homemade versions people have sent recipes for? Or should I do that in addition to these? Any suggestions for getting him to take these? I tried mixing them into canned food and he didn't eat much...but that was when I was trying everything new and he's not used to canned food yet so he may go for it once he gets used to the canned by itself. I broke the gentle digest capsules and put the powder in the food. Is there a better way to get him to swallow the capsule? Thanks again for all your help! I feel so ignorant...but I guess that's what happens when you're trying to do something totally new for the first time! Glad you all are so knowledgeable and willing to help!!! I hope all your little ones are doing well. MJ- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Thanks for welcome and more
Hi Marta! Glad to see you here. I'm just catching up on posts and I just saw yours. I was looking for an age for these kittens, how old are they? Poor little sprites sound so sick! You know that so many of them are in sad shape when they come off the street like this :( . It sounds like you are on top of their symptoms and getting the help of a good vet. It's wonderful, (even though not conclusive), that they tested neg for felv/fiv. Has the first kitten's temp continued to come down? I don't have any experience with FIP, (happily for me), so I can't give you any advise with that. From what I have heard, there's just not a whole lot you can do for them if they are genetically predisposed, except to boost their immune system and to love and encourage them to fight. Have you heard of Transfer Factor? It's an immune modulator derived from cow's colostrum that many on the list use, http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com Why don't you ask your vet what he thinks about Interferon A? One thing I am sure about is that these little guys have the best chance possible now that they've found themselves in a safe, nurturing environment. Just ask Jerome about that!! Sending healing thoughts and prayers that these little ones keep fighting and get healthy very soon. Keep us informed, Nina Thank-you everybody for the welcome, I'm sure I'll learn much here. The little feral isn't responding to meds and today I found one her siblings just like the 1st one. At the vet now undergoing (when they get to it) tests and more. I've a tiny bit of hope because this one put up more of a fight and she doesn't look like the other (genetics) but she seems so weak she might have the same problem.. Abt FIP, etc.When I had Jerome (my fiver) dx the first time the vetsaid FIP diagnosis was based on his symptoms tho he might not have it. Tested pos on both tests for FIV , and he was an adult intact stray when I foundhim so high risk thenhe maybe is truly +. Anyways he's doing great and such a lover. Hideyo, much, much light and positive thoughs for you, no matter how many times you go through it is never easy, I know. Marta
RE: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
Parafon forte is RX, not OTC. So is soma; from long, long experience I can tell you that parafon is better than soma because it does not cause you to feel drugged or sleepy. And it works!I keep a supply on hand at all times! Some of the newest docs don't prescribe it cause it has been used for so long it's been forgotten. that they only hear about and prescribe the new ones. Granted, there are a lot of newer muscle relaxants out there, but most of them have the tendency to make you feel groggy! Get an RX and try it!! Besides, it is much cheaper than the ones the drug reps try to push!!! Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk Thank you to all of you who responded about the herniated disk. I forwarded your messages to my husband at work yesterday. We paid a chiropractor $3500 yesterday for 20 sessions on a spinal decompression machine for lower back pain, a chair for excersizes he can bring home, and a few other items. I hope this helps my husband, because at the rate he's going, he won't be able to continue to work if this doesn't help. I'll let all of you know how it worked. If it doesn't work, hopefully we won't have to worry about pre-existing as he hasn't seen a medical doctor about the problem. I wanted to ask Mary Christine about parafon-forte and soma. Are these both medicines OTC, or does he need a prescrip for them? I have been coaxing my husband each time he has an episode to try to relax and not tense up, but it's hard for him not to. Thank you again for helping us out!!! As always, this site has proved invaluable. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Vitamins, Supplements, Etc.
Yeah, they work great for hard to do kitties! I have them, shoved the pill inside the treat or without. Depending on thebrand you get there are different kinds too. In a message dated 8/1/2006 9:43:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some people use Pill Pockets; you can get them atPetsmart.:)Wendy Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Rusty Update...
Chris, It's so exciting to hear that Rusty pulled through! Here's to finding his previous owners!!! :) Wendy --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So many folks here helped with some great advice for the person who rescued Rusty, the Katrina cat in MS. Wanted to give you all some great news. This is what I just got from Alexis: Thank you so much to everyone who has shown such concern for Rusty! This is one lucky little guy to have so many people praying for him. I have good news and bad news. Let's get the bad news out of the way. Rusty suffered permanent damage to his kidneys due to the blockage. There is no treatment for this. The trouble that he had with the crystals in his urine, bladder and kidney infection, and blockage of the ureter is likely to be recurrent throughout his life. He can ONLY eat prescription cat food. Also, his water consumption has to be measured and litter checked for crystals. His immune system is now compromised. He must be isolated from all other animals and live strictly indoors to avoid getting sick. Now for the good news! Rusty is not diabetic after all! More blood work was done right before he was discharged. His glucose levels had returned to the normal range! My vet said that it is somewhat common for extreme pain and stress to make the glucose levels shoot sky high (like our blood pressure can due to pain). It is wonderful that he only has to contend with the kidney/bladder issues. It was breaking my heart to think that I may have to inject him every day. I can just imagine him cursing the day he allowed me to pick him up. His appetite has returned. Actually, he eats like a pig! My daughter and I have completely fallen in love with him. He is so sweet! We are fully commited to giving him a forever home if we cannot find the owner. However, I am POSITIVE that this guy belonged to someone prior to Katrina. Here is some info that the vet told me that should help us in searching. Rusty is a genuine MALE CALICO. Apparently, only 1 out of every 10,000 calicos born is a male. My vet said that in the 15 yrs. that he has been in business - Rusty is the first male calico that he has ever seen! He estimated Rusty's age between 2 and 4 yrs. Also, Rusty was previously neutered. I had him tested for leukemia and AIDS. His tests came back negative. Given the amount of time that Rusty spent on the street, the vet believes that he must have been vaccinated prior to the storm. I am including some pictures of him, so that everyone can see who their prayers went to. I am so proud of how hard he fought to pull through all of this. Here's Rusty-the miracle cat! Keep your fingers crossed that we can find his original family---he's fought so hard.. Chris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Vitamins, Supplements, Etc.
They are soft pocket treats you can hide a pill in. The pocket molds around the pill. --- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. What are they?? Sorry...before I got Slinky I didn't know friskies from nine lives...much less anything else! :( MJ wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people use Pill Pockets; you can get them at Petsmart. :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson wrote: Hi all! Thanks SO MUCH for all your advice and thoughts about Slinky! I've been telling my friends that joining this group is one of the best things I ever did!!! I have a quick question (one of MANY to come I'm sure) for all of you. I mentioned in my original post that I got some vitamins and a digestive track thing for Slink at the natural pet food store. Both are Ark Naturals brand. The vitamins are called Nu-Pet Feline Granular...Powerful Vitamin Antioxideant Formula...Green Food Phytonutrients Plus Taurine. Says it has wheat sprout commplex, alfalfa grass, vit. A, vit C, vit E, fish protein, carbs, bioflavinoids, L-Taurine, L-Glutathione, L-Cysteine, and Selenium. The digestive track thing is called Gentle Digest (includes prebiotics and probiotics). Says it has Lactic Acid Bacilus (L+), min. 50 million vialbe spores per capsule, and Chicory. Then under ingreds it says Dicalcium phosphate, rice flour, chicory root, lactic acide bacilius, and magnesium stearate. Does anyone know anything about these supplements? Are they good? Is there something better? Would I be better off to make one of the homemade versions people have sent recipes for? Or should I do that in addition to these? Any suggestions for getting him to take these? I tried mixing them into canned food and he didn't eat much...but that was when I was trying everything new and he's not used to canned food yet so he may go for it once he gets used to the canned by itself. I broke the gentle digest capsules and put the powder in the food. Is there a better way to get him to swallow the capsule? Thanks again for all your help! I feel so ignorant...but I guess that's what happens when you're trying to do something totally new for the first time! Glad you all are so knowledgeable and willing to help!!! I hope all your little ones are doing well. MJ - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
Thanks Helene. I will keep this email on hand for when we get to visit a doctor in September. I doubt the chiropractor can prescribe meds, but not sure about that. --- Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parafon forte is RX, not OTC. So is soma; from long, long experience I can tell you that parafon is better than soma because it does not cause you to feel drugged or sleepy. And it works!I keep a supply on hand at all times! Some of the newest docs don't prescribe it cause it has been used for so long it's been forgotten. that they only hear about and prescribe the new ones. Granted, there are a lot of newer muscle relaxants out there, but most of them have the tendency to make you feel groggy! Get an RX and try it!! Besides, it is much cheaper than the ones the drug reps try to push!!! Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk Thank you to all of you who responded about the herniated disk. I forwarded your messages to my husband at work yesterday. We paid a chiropractor $3500 yesterday for 20 sessions on a spinal decompression machine for lower back pain, a chair for excersizes he can bring home, and a few other items. I hope this helps my husband, because at the rate he's going, he won't be able to continue to work if this doesn't help. I'll let all of you know how it worked. If it doesn't work, hopefully we won't have to worry about pre-existing as he hasn't seen a medical doctor about the problem. I wanted to ask Mary Christine about parafon-forte and soma. Are these both medicines OTC, or does he need a prescrip for them? I have been coaxing my husband each time he has an episode to try to relax and not tense up, but it's hard for him not to. Thank you again for helping us out!!! As always, this site has proved invaluable. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Vitamins, Supplements, Etc.
Ah! Thanks. I keep saying I think there should be some kind of "grandparenthood" program for new pet owners where someone with experience with the same kind of pet comes and helps you! Similar to the idea of having a mother or mother-in-law stay with you for a while when you have your first child. I'm still trying to figure out the difference between urine and diarrhea (sp?) in the litter box...I mean, once it's in the litter box, it all clumps and it's all the same color. So how to tell??Another question that just came to mind...When I hold him, he feels kinda bony to me. I don't know if this is normal or if it's a sign he's sick? The vet (about a week ago) seemed to think he was fine. But I've noticed that his shoulders (in front) stick up and I can feel his ribs if I press a little. Should I be worried or...? We go back to the vet in two weeks for the next round of vaccinations. This is what I mean...I need someone around who knows what's normal and what's cause for concern!!!Glad I at least have a safe place to ask all myquestions!! :)Thanks again everyone!!MJwendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are soft pocket treats you can hide a pill in. The pocket molds around the pill.--- Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Thanks. What are they?? Sorry...before I got Slinky I didn't know friskies from nine lives...much less anything else! :( MJ wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Some people use Pill Pockets; you can get them at Petsmart. :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson wrote: Hi all! Thanks SO MUCH for all your advice and thoughts about Slinky! I've been telling my friends that joining this group is one of the best things I ever did!!!I have a quick question (one of MANY to come I'm sure) for all of you. I mentioned in my original post that I got some vitamins and a digestive track thing for Slink at the natural pet food store. Both are Ark Naturals brand. The vitamins are called "Nu-Pet Feline Granular...Powerful Vitamin Antioxideant Formula...Green Food Phytonutrients Plus Taurine." Says it has wheat sprout commplex, alfalfa grass, vit. A, vit C, vit E, fish protein, carbs, bioflavinoids, L-Taurine, L-Glutathione, L-Cysteine, and Selenium. The digestive track thing is called Gentle Digest (includes prebiotics and probiotics). Says it has Lactic Acid Bacilus (L+), min. 50 million vialbe spores per capsule, and Chicory. Then under ingreds it says Dicalcium phosphate, rice flour, chicory root, lactic acide bacilius, and magnesium stearate.Does anyone know anything about these supplements? Are they good? Is there something better? Would I be better off to make one of the homemade versions people have sent recipes for? Or should I do that in addition to these?Any suggestions for getting him to take these? I tried mixing them into canned food and he didn't eat much...but that was when I was trying everything new and he's not used to canned food yet so he may go for it once he gets used to the canned by itself. I broke the gentle digest capsules and put the powder in the food. Is there a better way to get him to swallow the capsule?Thanks again for all your help! I feel so ignorant...but I guess that's what happens when you're trying to do something totally new for the first time! Glad you all are so knowledgeable and willing to help!!!I hope all your little ones are doing well. MJ- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Rusty Update...
That Rusty is such a handsome man! How unique, a male calico! I'm so pleased to hear Alexis and her daughter have fallen in love him, (surprise, surprise!), and that he is ensured of a forever, loving home! Hooray! He sure does deserve some safety and stability after all he's fought his way through. Michelle was just saying that acupuncture has been shown to help with kidney problems. Could you pass this on to Alexis? Many holistic vets also offer this service, maybe she could call around and find out more about it? Keep us updated on Rusty, we've all fallen in love! Nina Chris wrote: So many folks here helped with some great advice for the person who rescued Rusty, the Katrina cat in MS. Wanted to give you all some great news This is what I just got from Alexis:
Re: Vitamins, Supplements, Etc.
Depending on his age, he could be bony, but that usually isn't normal. My 17 year old hyper T kitty Julie is very bony, but she has atrophy from her condition and age. A young, healthy or even mid-life healthy kitty should not be bony. That being said, we have a cat named Topaz who has been thin all her life (she's 10 years old), and some of her bones do stick out, especially right by her tail at the top of her back. It could be that your kitty isn't getting enough nutrition right now. How much is he eating daily? I would definitely press this with my vet, and I wouldn't wait two weeks to check this out. Sometimes vets are wrong about things. And if kitty isn't getting enough nutrition, he could develop feline lipidosis (fatty liver disease) which is fatal if not treated quickly. I'm not trying to scare you, but it is something you should look into. I would also ask this group a direct question about this, with the appropriate subject header. That way you will get plenty of info. on the bonyness. Best of luck, :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
Hi Wendy, I'm sorry that your husband is having such debilitating pain! I have some idea of what he's going through dealing with constant back pain and how hard it can be to be still through the worst of it. I have learned if I don't listen to the warning signals, that first "ice pick to the spine", that I will soon find myself flat on my back, incapacitated. A couple of Chiropractors have helped me, PT has helped, stretching and yoga have helped, but I've also learned to listen and not continue to push myself when those painful warnings come. I find taking some ibuprofen, (I don't have insurance right now either and can't get the "good stuff" muscle relaxers), laying flat on my back with a heating pad to relax the muscles around my spine, and gentle stretching exercises will put me back into alignment. Tie that husband to the bed if you have to! I can't imagine he'd resist all that much if you offer to massage his back for him! Prayers that he feels better soon, Nina wendy wrote: <> I have been coaxing my husband each time he has an episode to try to relax and not tense up, but it's hard for him not to.
Bonyness
Hi again all. Some of you may have seen this in another post I sent, but I thought I should send it with a more appropriate subject.Slinky is about 15 or 16 weeks old (we're guessing) and tested positive for FeLV when I took him to the vet just over a week ago. The vet said everything else looked good except that he has tapeworm (which they called me about after I left - said they'd treat it when I went back in 3 weeks for the next round of vaccinations).He's been eating pretty well (I think...not sure how much he's supposed to eat, but I refill his food dish about every other day usually) and has been very active and friendly.I've also noticed lately that he's grown a lot in the two weeks I've had him.But lately I've noticed that when I pet him, I can feel his front "shoulders" sticking up behind his neck. I can also feel his ribs if I press a little. I'm not sure if this is normal (could he be growing faster than he's putting on weight and will catch up later?) or if I should be worried. I've been changing his food (from purina kitten chow to Innova Evo dry...will add canned soon as well) and also took him on a 5.5 hour road trip this weekend, so he's had a bit of adjustment going on, but that hasn't seemed to faze him much. As I said, he seems healthy. But should I be worried about his "bonyness"? Should I take him to the vet this week? I didn't ask the vet about "bonyness" when I was there (hadn't noticed it), but he was about 4 pounds and they seemd to think that was fine.What do you all think? Thanks for your support and advice!!MJ Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: Help for my Little Girl
Elizabeth, Congratulations on Mama Kitty's reversion to kittenhood! Doesn't it do your heart good to see them so healthy and happy?! Congratulations on turning your vet as well. Hooray!! Another one for our side! Nina
Re: Help for my Little Girl
Hi Betty, I'm sorry that your "Little Girl" is doing poorly. I'm sorry too, that I didn't see your post sooner. I looked for an update, but couldn't find one. How is your baby doing now? I absolutely get what it's like to have a "heart" kitten and I so feel for you. Has she started to eat yet? It is so important that you keep her eating, at least something. Have you started to assist-feed her? Please let us know how she is doing! Nina Josie wrote: I raised my Little Girl from a kitten 1 day old as her mom died shortly after giving birth on the day before Mother's Day 2005. So I have been her only Mommy from the time that she was a day old. She was the smallest of the litter so she got extra special care and has been my extra special girl from the first. I raised four of the five kittens but she was my heart. Didn't mean for it to turn out that way. It just did. She is a calico. Beautiful! With a black mask. She had tested negative on her first test and got her vaccination, however, about 5 weeks ago she began having breathing problems, so I took her to the vet and she tested positive this time. She stayed at the vet for a few days and got breathing treatments and had the fluid drawn from her lungs ( which had no cancer cells in it) and came home with antibiotics and prednisone. For a month she seemed fine except for not having a very good appetite, but for the last two days I can hardly get her to eat anything. I am getting water and some vitamins in her with a syringe (which she hates) but very little else. She last ate at 3:00 a.m. so it has been more than 12 hours since she ate anything. Any suggestions? Any advice appreciated. Please pray for her. On Wed. the vet gave me another round of Orbax and prednisone for her, but it seems to have had no effect whatsoever this time. Betty
Re: Bonyness
Why did the vet want to wait to treat him for tapeworm?? It would be better to give him the med for the worms now, not when he's having to deal with the stress of more vaccinations. He's probably okay, weight wise, but if you've noticed a difference in the way he feels and looks, you should weigh him to see if he's lost weight. Having worms, his exciting weekend, and a growth spurt could all be contributing to his being thin. Go get the worm med from the doc and use the pill pockets to give them to him. What I do with the pill pocket, (you can find them at Petsmart), is use just enough of it to cover the pill. They get like silly-putty with the warmth of your fingers and can be molded around the pill. When they are just barely covered, making them as small as possible, with still no chance of tasting the med inside, I coat them with tuna, or chicken and place them in the middle of a very small pile of whatever yummy people food the kitty likes. Usually they just gobble down the pill with whatever they are enjoying. Let us know. Nina Marissa Johnson wrote: Hi again all. Some of you may have seen this in another post I sent, but I thought I should send it with a more appropriate subject. Slinky is about 15 or 16 weeks old (we're guessing) and tested positive for FeLV when I took him to the vet just over a week ago. The vet said everything else looked good except that he has tapeworm (which they called me about after I left - said they'd treat it when I went back in 3 weeks for the next round of vaccinations). He's been eating pretty well (I think...not sure how much he's supposed to eat, but I refill his food dish about every other day usually) and has been very active and friendly.I've also noticed lately that he's grown a lot in the two weeks I've had him. But lately I've noticed that when I pet him, I can feel his front "shoulders" sticking up behind his neck. I can also feel his ribs if I press a little. I'm not sure if this is normal (could he be growing faster than he's putting on weight and will catch up later?) or if I should be worried. I've been changing his food (from purina kitten chow to Innova Evo dry...will add canned soon as well) and also took him on a 5.5 hour road trip this weekend, so he's had a bit of adjustment going on, but that hasn't seemed to faze him much. As I said, he seems healthy. But should I be worried about his "bonyness"? Should I take him to the vet this week? I didn't ask the vet about "bonyness" when I was there (hadn't noticed it), but he was about 4 pounds and they seemd to think that was fine. What do you all think? Thanks for your support and advice!! MJ
Re: Bonyness
a lot of kittens go through a gangly, scrawny stage around that age--so i'd keep an eye on him to see if anything changes, but wouldn't necessarily panic. the tapeworm itself could be causing him not to be getting all the nutrients from his food. that said, i'm an overprotective mom, and i'd call the vet and talk to him about it--an appointment may not be necessary, but my vets know that i'm always gonna ask the questions... MC On 8/1/06, Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again all. Some of you may have seen this in another post I sent, but I thought I should send it with a more appropriate subject. Slinky is about 15 or 16 weeks old (we're guessing) and tested positive for FeLV when I took him to the vet just over a week ago. The vet said everything else looked good except that he has tapeworm (which they called me about after I left - said they'd treat it when I went back in 3 weeks for the next round of vaccinations). He's been eating pretty well (I think...not sure how much he's supposed to eat, but I refill his food dish about every other day usually) and has been very active and friendly.I've also noticed lately that he's grown a lot in the two weeks I've had him. But lately I've noticed that when I pet him, I can feel his front shoulders sticking up behind his neck. I can also feel his ribs if I press a little. I'm not sure if this is normal (could he be growing faster than he's putting on weight and will catch up later?) or if I should be worried. I've been changing his food (from purina kitten chow to Innova Evo dry...will add canned soon as well) and also took him on a 5.5 hour road trip this weekend, so he's had a bit of adjustment going on, but that hasn't seemed to faze him much. As I said, he seems healthy. But should I be worried about his bonyness? Should I take him to the vet this week? I didn't ask the vet about bonyness when I was there (hadn't noticed it), but he was about 4 pounds and they seemd to think that was fine. What do you all think? Thanks for your support and advice!! MJ Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Rusty Update...
the board of directors of CaLiCo (Calico Liberation Coalition) would like to offer Rusty a lifetime membership. we are a radical, left-paw social and political organization dedicated to ending discrimination against the multi-colored (no, it is NOT always the calico's fault!), making the world more colorful, and, oh, yeah, world domination. we have no boy calicos in our group, so would be thrilled to have Rusty join us. (yeah, you could say the heat is getting to me, but we actually have a weekly Calico TUDE chat, and our own message boards at www.cathobbyist.com) On 8/1/06, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So many folks here helped with some great advice for the person who rescued Rusty, the Katrina cat in MS. Wanted to give you all some great news… This is what I just got from Alexis: Thank you so much to everyone who has shown such concern for Rusty! This is one lucky little guy to have so many people praying for him. I have good news and bad news. Let's get the bad news out of the way. Rusty suffered permanent damage to his kidneys due to the blockage. There is no treatment for this. The trouble that he had with thecrystals in his urine, bladder and kidney infection, and blockage of the ureter is likely to be recurrent throughout his life. He can ONLY eatprescription cat food. Also, his water consumption has to be measuredand litter checked for crystals. His immune system is now compromised. He must be isolated from all other animals and live strictly indoors toavoid getting sick. Now for the good news! Rusty is not diabetic after all! More bloodwork was done right before he was discharged. His glucose levels had returned to the normal range! My vet said that it is somewhat commonfor extreme pain and stress to make the glucose levels shoot sky high(like our blood pressure can due to pain). It is wonderful that he only has to contend with the kidney/bladder issues. It was breaking my heartto think that I may have to inject him every day. I can just imaginehim cursing the day he allowed me to pick him up. His appetite hasreturned. Actually, he eats like a pig! My daughter and I have completely fallen in love with him. He is so sweet! We are fullycommited to giving him a forever home if we cannot find the owner. However, I am POSITIVE that this guy belonged to someone prior toKatrina. Here is some info that the vet told me that should help us in searching.Rusty is a genuine MALE CALICO. Apparently, only 1 out of every 10,000calicos born is a male. My vet said that in the 15 yrs. that he hasbeen in business - Rusty is the first male calico that he has ever seen! He estimated Rusty's age between 2 and 4 yrs. Also, Rusty waspreviously neutered. I had him tested for leukemia and AIDS. His testscame back negative. Given the amount of time that Rusty spent on thestreet, the vet believes that he must have been vaccinated prior to the storm. I am including some pictures of him, so that everyone can seewho their prayers went to. I am so proud of how hard he fought to pullthrough all of this. Here's Rusty-the miracle cat! Keep your fingers crossed that we can find his original family---he's fought so hard…. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Will Feral
No, only when symptomatic. I guess I thought from your last email that he was still symptomatic. Glad to hear he's not! Michelle In a message dated 8/1/2006 12:59:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Michelle, Do you use the Immunoregulin as a preventitive, or just when symptomatic? Will is doing great at the moment (knock on wood), no fever, gaining lots of weight again, and hogging all the toys. I hate to add something and unbalance the good results we are having so far.
Re: Bonyness/Worms
The kitty should be treated now for Tapeworms. So go back to the Vet get the meds. This does affect his growing and getting the nutrition needed for his body. His fur will lookhealthier as well after he gets treated. He will feel better. It sounds to me that he is trying to grow and having worms will affect his size/appearance. The nasty Tapeworms take away from what the kitten needs to grow on. The worms are getting the food first. Nasty critters! Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Bonyness/Worms
hee hee--do you ever think that we're all operating from the same script sometimes? On 8/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The kitty should be treated now for Tapeworms. So go back to the Vet get the meds. This does affect his growing and getting the nutrition needed for his body. His fur will lookhealthier as well after he gets treated. He will feel better. It sounds to me that he is trying to grow and having worms will affect his size/appearance. The nasty Tapeworms take away from what the kitten needs to grow on. The worms are getting the food first. Nasty critters! Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption! http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WA http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html Petfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet! http://www.petfinder.com/ http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Immunoregulin
Hideyo, Has Naomi been checked for pancreatitis, when Bailey had it and we didn't know he stopped eating, was anemic, got fevers off and on,was very lethargic EVEN after we got his anemia under control?? I think there is a specific test they can do now to check for it. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Bonyness/Worms
LMAOyeah I think so! In a message dated 8/1/2006 12:02:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hee hee--do you ever think that we're all operating from the same script sometimes? Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Need Acemannan urgently
The same thing happened with Black Salve, it was curing many, many skin cancers, they threw the guy who made and manufactured it in jail and closed his company saying it was a dangerous. Thank God he gave a select number of people the recipe to make it and it can still be gotten. A several people the manufacture told me that FDA (food and drug administration) is auditing the drug right now.. and another person told me the same thing (and she told me sarcastically, thats because they are fixing all the cancers..).. And all the distributors will tell you that its not available temporarily right now -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Thoughts for Lucy please
Prayers for Lucy, spay goes smooth and easy ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Thoughts for Lucy please
How is Lucy? t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:My Lucy went in to the vet's tonight and will be spayed tomorrow. My vet is taking all the recommended precautions but I'm still a little nervous so please send strong healthy kitty thoughts to Lucy. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgCC: Subject: Re: Use of Metacam with cats ** Could be very dangerousDate: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:49:01 +No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006
Introduction and new cat question
Hello, My name is Leslie. My cat's name is Satchmo. He's 6 years old, I adopted him at 5 years old knowing that he had feline leukemia. My question is about adopting him a friend. Now the background. Four years ago I adopted Sushi, a 2 yr old DSH that had been rescued from a house full of cats. She had been tested for everything in the shelter and came back negative. A month after having her, she got lethargic, I took her to the vet, she was retested and the test came back positive for FeLV. I was devastated, but she already had my heart so completely that returning her wasn't even considered, and she was doing great, actually. Great coat, very spunky, I started researching how to keep her around as long as possible. And on this optimistic vein, I decided to adopt another FeLV+ cat to keep her company, Hepburn, a 10-month old kitten that had had some health issues, but had been nursed back to health by the vet. Eight months after adopting Hepburn, Sushi passed on from a myocardial infarction, the vet guessed. I was heartbroken. Four months later, I adopted Hepburn a friend.Where Sushi was mischeivious, Hepburn was sweet. She was a cat that rewarded you for being quiet and giving her time. The new addition, Satchmo, was a five year old brown tabbywith the mannersof a dumptruck, but the charm to make you laugh instead of scream. Again, a few months later, Hep took a turn for the worse, appetite gone, the vet not being able to pin it on a specific infection. We'd fought this off once before, but this time instead of getting better, she jaundiced and her belly swelled up. She was diagnosed with FIP. Again, I was just crushed to lose her. Now, nearly ayear later, I have this wonderful cat, Satch,who loves other animals and has so much life in him. Hegets sneezy every few months, but fights it back. He is on a vet-approved raw diet and Feline Immune Support. His coat is beautiful, his eyes clear, he's a very happy guy. I really do believe that cats benefit from being in pairs, but I'm soscared to getanother just to lose the first. I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do youadopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie
Re: New member
Welcome to the group. We just had a decision about whether or not using metacam was safe or not. I hope others have more advice for you than I do. Bless you for what you do to help animals. tonyamarta gasper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I just joined, I'm Marta from Nebraska, some of you already know me from other lists. I have no FeLV kitties right now_just a FIV+, was diagnosed with FIP almost a year ago but he bounced back so well, most likely that isn't the problem. I'll know more on next vet check up next month. We care for ferals in our town and last Sat took a 4 month old feral kitten to the vet b/c she looked so sick (not sickpuppy sick but very lethargic unlike her, she's so wild I've seen so little of her) She's been running a 105° fever_actually came down 1 degree this morning and upon tests was found very anemic, with an URI and coccidia_ so she's on subq's, Metacam (strange shouldn't have M reduced the fever by now, she got it this morning) and a combo of doxy and baytril for blood parasytes. They're feeding her Nutrical. I've thought of FIP or leuk as a possibility but she tested negative on the combo test (means little I know)_her mom was negative when we TNR' her_and she being a feral it sort of cuts the chances of having FIP but I don't know. We're hoping the doxy cocktail will work for her anemia, I'll know more tomorrow. I've been following the immuno regulin thread_Hideyo , I'm so sorry, sending prayers and best vibes for your little one_would it work on infectious anemia? Thank-you very much and thank-you for this list. MartaPlease visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta
Re: Introduction and new cat question
If I could financially afford it then yes, I would take another. Welcome to the group!tonyaLeslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello, My name is Leslie. My cat's name is Satchmo. He's 6 years old, I adopted him at 5 years old knowing that he had feline leukemia. My question is about adopting him a friend.Now the background. Four years ago I adopted Sushi, a 2 yr old DSH that had been rescued from a house full of cats. She had been tested for everything in the shelter and came back negative. A month after having her, she got lethargic, I took her to the vet, she was retested and the test came back positive for FeLV. I was devastated, but she already had my heart so completely that returning her wasn't even considered, and she was doing great, actually. Great coat, very spunky, I started researching how to keep her around as long as possible. And on this optimistic vein, I decided to adopt another FeLV+ cat to keep her company, Hepburn, a 10-month old kitten that had had some health issues, but had been nursed back to health by the vet. Eight months after adopting Hepburn, Sushi passed on from a myocardial infarction, the vet guessed. I was heartbroken.Four months later, I adopted Hepburn a friend.Where Sushi was mischeivious, Hepburn was sweet. She was a cat that rewarded you for being quiet and giving her time. The new addition, Satchmo, was a five year old brown tabbywith the mannersof a dumptruck, but the charm to make you laugh instead of scream. Again, a few months later, Hep took a turn for the worse, appetite gone, the vet not being able to pin it on a specific infection. We'd fought this off once before, but this time instead of getting better, she jaundiced and her belly swelled up. She was diagnosed with FIP. Again, I was just crushed to lose her.Now, nearly ayear later, I have this wonderful cat, Satch,who loves other animals and has so much life in him. Hegets sneezy every few months, but fights it back. He is on a vet-approved raw diet and Feline Immune Support. His coat is beautiful, his eyes clear, he's a very happy guy. I really do believe that cats benefit from being in pairs, but I'm soscared to getanother just to lose the first. I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do youadopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie
Re: Introduction and new cat question
It's great to have you on this group! Best group of people around as you will find out in time. I'm in WA. myself. The Humane Society you volunteer at is one of the few I have respect for because they genuinely care about the animals. I have worked with them in the past on Siamese at the shelter. Well, only you can make the decision on whether you want ot bring another furbaby into your home. Personally, I would.it's the chance you have to take whether they are healthy or not. I would hope they give you a discount or for free on the kitten since she did test Felv+ that in time your going to have extra expenses for special meds to increase the quality of life for her. There aren't many rescues in OR that will take a positive baby. I'm not aware of any at this time that are taking any. No, it's not a weird question to ask! In a message dated 8/1/2006 1:27:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do youadopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Introduction and new cat question
Oh Leslie, have you ever found the right group of people!! We so get the my heart expands until it feels like it's going to explode thing! What can I tell you that you don't already know? Adopting these angels, giving them a chance at life and love in a caring environment, isn't that what it's all about? Yes, it hurts when their time comes, yes we think we'll never recover, but somehow we do. Somehow we realize that loving them and losing them, no matter how heart wrenching that is, is worth it for the joy and happiness they bring. It's all the same coin, my dear. No one can tell you how much your heart can bear, but I know mine just keeps expanding, it hasn't exploded yet! Whatever you decide, I'm sure it will be the right decision for you and for Satchmo, (and if you go get that baby, it will definitely be the right one for her!). Welcome to the list, you sure do sound like one of us! Nina Leslie wrote: Hello, My name is Leslie. My cat's name is Satchmo. He's 6 years old, I adopted him at 5 years old knowing that he had feline leukemia. My question is about adopting him a friend. Now the background. Four years ago I adopted Sushi, a 2 yr old DSH that had been rescued from a house full of cats. She had been tested for everything in the shelter and came back negative. A month after having her, she got lethargic, I took her to the vet, she was retested and the test came back positive for FeLV. I was devastated, but she already had my heart so completely that returning her wasn't even considered, and she was doing great, actually. Great coat, very spunky, I started researching how to keep her around as long as possible. And on this optimistic vein, I decided to adopt another FeLV+ cat to keep her company, Hepburn, a 10-month old kitten that had had some health issues, but had been nursed back to health by the vet. Eight months after adopting Hepburn, Sushi passed on from a myocardial infarction, the vet guessed. I was heartbroken. Four months later, I adopted Hepburn a friend. Where Sushi was mischeivious, Hepburn was sweet. She was a cat that rewarded you for being quiet and giving her time. The new addition, Satchmo, was a five year old brown tabby with the manners of a dumptruck, but the charm to make you laugh instead of scream. Again, a few months later, Hep took a turn for the worse, appetite gone, the vet not being able to pin it on a specific infection. We'd fought this off once before, but this time instead of getting better, she jaundiced and her belly swelled up. She was diagnosed with FIP. Again, I was just crushed to lose her. Now, nearly a year later, I have this wonderful cat, Satch, who loves other animals and has so much life in him. He gets sneezy every few months, but fights it back. He is on a vet-approved raw diet and Feline Immune Support. His coat is beautiful, his eyes clear, he's a very happy guy. I really do believe that cats benefit from being in pairs, but I'm so scared to get another just to lose the first. I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do you adopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie
Re: Thoughts for Lucy please
I put Lucy in my prayers and thoughts this morning. Any word yet? Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Rusty Update...
That's the wonderful, I'm glad he is going to be OK, I can't believe anyone would have left him behind, could never do that to my furkids, under any circumstances. I remember one day we were out and on the way home, a firetruck passed us and then another, I jokingly said they were going in the direction of our home but that soon wasn't funny, they were going in the direction of our home, about 4 block away we couldn't drive any further I told Mike to pull over and told him I was running to the apartment to just get there when he could. The building next to ours was on fire and I ran upstairs before anyone could do anything about it, got all my cat carriers out and was just getting ready to get the furkids all rounded up when Mike called and said the fire was just about out. That was too close for comfort. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Introduction and new cat question
Title: Message Welcome Leslie! It's good to have you on board, although I'm sorry for the reason you've had to find us. I think you just answered your own question. I think the capacity for heartbreak and pain that often accompanies a commitment to our little FeLV souls varies accordingto the individual(I say "often", by the way, because quite a few members have FeLVpositives that are a ripe old age, and happily still going strong). I have been humbled and amazed and inspired in turn by the sheer dedication of so many of the wonderful people on this list to the welfare of cats in need. Many--most?--ofthem have suffered heartbreak over and over again but somehow gather the strength to keep going, to do whatever they can for cats in need. I know I could not have got through losing so many---4 sweet positives, 2 of whom I lost one after another on the same awful day, and months later,a darling CRF cat, who I had "fostered-for-life" in the meantime--without the support of the group. I know that I'll lose more (unless I go first!); but I feel I'll get through it. Knowing I can perhaps do a little to help improve the quality of life of a cat that is totally dependent on me has so far outweighed any inclination I may have hadto protect myself from further grief. But, I have to add that for me, at any rate, it would have been much, muchharder without the tremendous support of this group. We'll be here for you, too. My positives all enjoyed each other's company for the short time (18 months - 2 years) that they had, and I know that having each other added to their quality of life. I have scores ofphotos of them playing and cuddling up together which make me smile now, even though they're no longer physically with me. I'd say, go for it! And welcome again! Kerry PS On an even happier note, when I retested the 5th (and only remaining) kitten of the original colony of 6, he tested negative---he's thrown off the virus. Yes, that can happen too. I didn't really believe it until I saw it for myself. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeslieSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 3:26 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Introduction and new cat question Hello, My name is Leslie. My cat's name is Satchmo. He's 6 years old, I adopted him at 5 years old knowing that he had feline leukemia. My question is about adopting him a friend. Now the background. Four years ago I adopted Sushi, a 2 yr old DSH that had been rescued from a house full of cats. She had been tested for everything in the shelter and came back negative. A month after having her, she got lethargic, I took her to the vet, she was retested and the test came back positive for FeLV. I was devastated, but she already had my heart so completely that returning her wasn't even considered, and she was doing great, actually. Great coat, very spunky, I started researching how to keep her around as long as possible. And on this optimistic vein, I decided to adopt another FeLV+ cat to keep her company, Hepburn, a 10-month old kitten that had had some health issues, but had been nursed back to health by the vet. Eight months after adopting Hepburn, Sushi passed on from a myocardial infarction, the vet guessed. I was heartbroken. Four months later, I adopted Hepburn a friend.Where Sushi was mischeivious, Hepburn was sweet. She was a cat that rewarded you for being quiet and giving her time. The new addition, Satchmo, was a five year old brown tabbywith the mannersof a dumptruck, but the charm to make you laugh instead of scream. Again, a few months later, Hep took a turn for the worse, appetite gone, the vet not being able to pin it on a specific infection. We'd fought this off once before, but this time instead of getting better, she jaundiced and her belly swelled up. She was diagnosed with FIP. Again, I was just crushed to lose her. Now, nearly ayear later, I have this wonderful cat, Satch,who loves other animals and has so much life in him. Hegets sneezy every few months, but fights it back. He is on a vet-approved raw diet and Feline Immune Support. His coat is beautiful, his eyes clear, he's a very happy guy. I really do believe that cats benefit from being in pairs, but I'm soscared to getanother just to lose the first. I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do youadopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by
Re: Introduction and new cat question
Kerry that was very well said! That's great news about the final kitten! In a message dated 8/1/2006 2:26:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Welcome Leslie! It's good to have you on board, although I'm sorry for the reason you've had to find us. I think you just answered your own question. I think the capacity for heartbreak and pain that often accompanies a commitment to our little FeLV souls varies accordingto the individual(I say "often", by the way, because quite a few members have FeLVpositives that are a ripe old age, and happily still going strong). I have been humbled and amazed and inspired in turn by the sheer dedication of so many of the wonderful people on this list to the welfare of cats in need. Many--most?--ofthem have suffered heartbreak over and over again but somehow gather the strength to keep going, to do whatever they can for cats in need. I know I could not have got through losing so many---4 sweet positives, 2 of whom I lost one after another on the same awful day, and months later,a darling CRF cat, who I had "fostered-for-life" in the meantime--without the support of the group. I know that I'll lose more (unless I go first!); but I feel I'll get through it. Knowing I can perhaps do a little to help improve the quality of life of a cat that is totally dependent on me has so far outweighed any inclination I may have hadto protect myself from further grief. But, I have to add that for me, at any rate, it would have been much, muchharder without the tremendous support of this group. We'll be here for you, too. My positives all enjoyed each other's company for the short time (18 months - 2 years) that they had, and I know that having each other added to their quality of life. I have scores ofphotos of them playing and cuddling up together which make me smile now, even though they're no longer physically with me. I'd say, go for it! And welcome again! Kerry PS On an even happier note, when I retested the 5th (and only remaining) kitten of the original colony of 6, he tested negative---he's thrown off the virus. Yes, that can happen too. I didn't really believe it until I saw it for myself. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Introduction and new cat question
Amen to that, Nina! Welcome Leslie! And welcome to all the other new members I missed this past week! Craziness here for me! Terri in NJ =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here -- www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Introduction and new cat question Oh Leslie, have you ever found the right group of people!! We so get the "my heart expands until it feels like it's going to explode" thing! What can I tell you that you don't already know? Adopting these angels, giving them a chance at life and love in a caring environment, isn't that what it's all about? Yes, it hurts when their time comes, yes we think we'll never recover, but somehow we do. Somehow we realize that loving them and losing them, no matter how heart wrenching that is, is worth it for the joy and happiness they bring. It's all the same coin, my dear. No one can tell you how much your heart can bear, but I know mine just keeps expanding, it hasn't exploded yet! Whatever you decide, I'm sure it will be the right decision for you and for Satchmo, (and if you go get that baby, it will definitely be the right one for her!). Welcome to the list, you sure do sound like one of us!NinaLeslie wrote: Hello, My name is Leslie. My cat's name is Satchmo. He's 6 years old, I adopted him at 5 years old knowing that he had feline leukemia. My question is about adopting him a friend. Now the background. Four years ago I adopted Sushi, a 2 yr old DSH that had been rescued from a house full of cats. She had been tested for everything in the shelter and came back negative. A month after having her, she got lethargic, I took her to the vet, she was retested and the test came back positive for FeLV. I was devastated, but she already had my heart so completely that returning her wasn't even considered, and she was doing great, actually. Great coat, very spunky, I started researching how to keep her around as long as possible. And on this optimistic vein, I decided to adopt another FeLV+ cat to keep her company, Hepburn, a 10-month old kitten that had had some health issues, but had been nursed back to health by the vet. Eight months after adopting Hepburn, Sushi passed on from a myocardial infarction, the vet guessed. I was heartbroken. Four months later, I adopted Hepburn a friend. Where Sushi was mischeivious, Hepburn was sweet. She was a cat that rewarded you for being quiet and giving her time. The new addition, Satchmo, was a five year old brown tabby with the manners of a dumptruck, but the charm to make you laugh instead of scream. Again, a few months later, Hep took a turn for the worse, appetite gone, the vet not being able to pin it on a specific infection. We'd fought this off once before, but this time instead of getting better, she jaundiced and her belly swelled up. She was diagnosed with FIP. Again, I was just crushed to lose her. Now, nearly a year later, I have this wonderful cat, Satch, who loves other animals and has so much life in him. He gets sneezy every few months, but fights it back. He is on a vet-approved raw diet and Feline Immune Support. His coat is beautiful, his eyes clear, he's a very happy guy. I really do believe that cats benefit from being in pairs, but I'm so scared to get another just to lose the first. I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do you adopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie
RE: Rusty Update...
Well, not everybody had the chance to get their animals, particularly in MS. The person in Biloxi who has been feeding Rusty and a bunch of other animals stayed during the hurricane, like most of his neighbors. They weren't on the water and they all figured they'd ride out the storm. As soon as the storm hit, a 32' storm surge engulfed the entire street. He had two cats--grabbed one under each arm and literally raced up to his attic/roof as the water was overtaking him. He made it out to the roof where he and the cats stayed waiting for the water to start receding. He was the only person on his street who survived. Thousands of people in New Orleans area stayed just because of their pets. Then they were ordered out and not allowed to take their pets. All those stories about animals being shot in front of their owners, owners being arrested, animals being pulled out of people's arms as they were boarding buses--they are indeed all true. Some have found their pets--but so many others are still looking... I sometimes think about how I'd get my 5 cats out in an emergency--we all know how they get 10' tall when they spot those carriers! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Rusty Update... That's the wonderful, I'm glad he is going to be OK, I can't believe anyone would have left him behind, could never do that to my furkids, under any circumstances. I remember one day we were out and on the way home, a firetruck passed us and then another, I jokingly said they were going in the direction of our home but that soon wasn't funny, they were going in the direction of our home, about 4 block away we couldn't drive any further I told Mike to pull over and told him I was running to the apartment to just get there when he could. The building next to ours was on fire and I ran upstairs before anyone could do anything about it, got all my cat carriers out and was just getting ready to get the furkids all rounded up when Mike called and said the fire was just about out. That was too close for comfort. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
pill pockets
one note. they come in different flavors and I have found my cats will eat some flavors and NOT others. cats. lol.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yeah, they work great for hard to do kitties! I have them, shoved the pill inside the treat or without. Depending on thebrand you get there are different kinds too.In a message dated 8/1/2006 9:43:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some people use Pill Pockets; you can get them atPetsmart.:)Wendy Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Rusty Update...
Thank God my furkids aren't that bad, in fact most of mine come out to see what is is going on and even get in the carrier to snoop, usually not the one that is going to the vet though, they always know don't they??!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Bonyness
Cats do go through a 'lanky' looking stage at about that age. They're pudgier as kittens and then again as adults... but if the vet says Slinky has tapes I would go ahead and ask for the med. now and not wait.tMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi again all. Some of you may have seen this in another post I sent, but I thought I should send it with a more appropriate subject.Slinky is about 15 or 16 weeks old (we're guessing) and tested positive for FeLV when I took him to the vet just over a week ago. The vet said everything else looked good except that he has tapeworm (which they called me about after I left - said they'd treat it when I went back in 3 weeks for the next round of vaccinations). He's been eating pretty well (I think...not sure how much he's supposed to eat, but I refill his food dish about every other day usually) and has been very active and friendly.I've also noticed lately that he's grown a lot in the two weeks I've had him.But lately I've noticed that when I pet him, I can feel his front "shoulders" sticking up behind his neck. I can also feel his ribs if I press a little. I'm not sure if this is normal (could he be growing faster than he's putting on weight and will catch up later?) or if I should be worried. I've been changing his food (from purina kitten chow to Innova Evo dry...will add canned soon as well) and also took him on a 5.5 hour road trip this weekend, so he's had a bit of adjustment going on, but that hasn't seemed to faze him much. As I said, he seems healthy. But should I be worried about his "bonyness"? Should I take him to the vet this week? I didn't ask the vet about "bonyness" when I was there (hadn't noticed it), but he was about 4 pounds and they seemd to think that was fine.What do you all think? Thanks for your support and advice!!MJ Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
RE: Rusty Update...
Listen, I figured out long ago that our cats all speak English but don't want us to know. Just say the word, dinner, food, carrier, treat, and they react!!! If they so much as hear the carrier coming down from the shelf closet, they all head for the hills! Of course, I have one who delights in waiting til he sees one of the other cats being put in the carrier and immediately goes up to the close carrier to taunt the poor 'victim'--makes for some interesting howls! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Rusty Update... Thank God my furkids aren't that bad, in fact most of mine come out to see what is is going on and even get in the carrier to snoop, usually not the one that is going to the vet though, they always know don't they??!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
Is it a type of antibiotics? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. sending prayers, Hideyo. Have you tried giving her dexamethasone? If nothing else, it should keep her more comfortable. It may also reverse her symptoms. Michelle In a message dated 7/31/2006 5:18:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure
carriers
Well then my cats are even smarter than yours. lol. I can get out the carriers and the ones going to the vet know to run and hide and the ones I am leaving home run and jump in. And they figure this out EVERY time and I say nothing aloud in English, try not to look at any particular cat, or give off any vibes as to which cats need to be in those carriers. lol. tChris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listen, I figured out long ago that our cats all speak English but don'twant us to know. Just say the word, dinner, food, carrier, treat, and theyreact!!! If they so much as hear the carrier coming down from the shelfcloset, they all head for the hills! Of course, I have one who delights inwaiting til he sees one of the other cats being put in the carrier andimmediately goes up to the close carrier to taunt the poor 'victim'--makesfor some interesting howls!Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BelindaSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:20 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Rusty Update...Thank God my furkids aren't that bad, in fact most of mine come out to see what is is going on and even get in the carrier to snoop, usually not the one that is going to the vet though, they always know don't they??!!-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: carriers
Well in addition to speaking our language, they are telepathic! Im sure they must have heard you making the vet appointmentimagine the tauting they did of the poor victim who was going to the vet! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: carriers Well then my cats are even smarter than yours. lol. I can get out the carriers and the ones going to the vet know to run and hide and the ones I am leaving home run and jump in. And they figure this out EVERY time and I say nothing aloud in English, try not to look at any particular cat, or give off any vibes as to which cats need to be in those carriers. lol. t Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listen, I figured out long ago that our cats all speak English but don't want us to know. Just say the word, dinner, food, carrier, treat, and they react!!! If they so much as hear the carrier coming down from the shelf closet, they all head for the hills! Of course, I have one who delights in waiting til he sees one of the other cats being put in the carrier and immediately goes up to the close carrier to taunt the poor 'victim'--makes for some interesting howls! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Rusty Update... Thank God my furkids aren't that bad, in fact most of mine come out to see what is is going on and even get in the carrier to snoop, usually not the one that is going to the vet though, they always know don't they??!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
It's a steroid, Hideyo. It's good to know Naomi is still with us. Any improvement since the last update? N Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Is it a type of antibiotics? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. sending prayers, Hideyo. Have you tried giving her dexamethasone? If nothing else, it should keep her more comfortable. It may also reverse her symptoms. Michelle In a message dated 7/31/2006 5:18:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure
RE: carriers
ha!Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well in addition to speaking our language, they are telepathic! Im sure they must have heard you making the vet appointmentimagine the tauting they did of the poor victim who was going to the vet! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:36 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: carriers Well then my cats are even smarter than yours. lol. I can get out the carriers and the ones going to the vet know to run and hide and the ones I am leaving home run and jump in. And they figure this out EVERY time and I say nothing aloud in English, try not to look at any particular cat, or give off any vibes as to which cats need to be in those carriers. lol.tChris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Listen, I figured out long ago that our cats all speak English but don'twant us to know. Just say the word, dinner, food, carrier, treat, and theyreact!!! If they so much as hear the carrier coming down from the shelfcloset, they all head for the hills! Of course, I have one who delights inwaiting til he sees one of the other cats being put in the carrier andimmediately goes up to the close carrier to taunt the poor 'victim'--makesfor some interesting howls!Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BelindaSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:20 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Rusty Update...Thank God my furkids aren't that bad, in fact most of mine come out to see what is is going on and even get in the carrier to snoop, usually not the one that is going to the vet though, they always know don't they??!!-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
She is quite amazing she is a tough little girl she is fighting and I am fighting with her.. I cannot wait to get home to be with her though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. It's a steroid, Hideyo. It's good to know Naomi is still with us. Any improvement since the last update? N Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Is it a type of antibiotics? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. sending prayers, Hideyo. Have you tried giving her dexamethasone? If nothing else, it should keep her more comfortable. It may also reverse her symptoms. Michelle In a message dated 7/31/2006 5:18:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure
RE: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
We dont know except that FIP can cause non regenerative anemia --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:37 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. Isn't Naomi negative? What is causing the anemia? t Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask everyone one more time to send Naomi prayers and peaceful energy so that she can spend her final days peacefully without pain.. while I am trying to do what I can to save her life.. there is not much left.. she is losing her blood so quickly and very anemic.. and she is too small and cant get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure her.. but I also believe that there is life after this life and she will be happier and heading to a better new life I just wish I could spend for time with her.. I wish I could stay home and be with her.. as I work here, I am sending her love and prayer for her peace
Re: pill pockets
Thanks! Yeah, I've noticed this with treats in general. Slinky seems to LVE chicken treats, but one time I bought cruchy treats with shrimp, crab, and tuna (or something like that) and he wouldn't even touch them. Thanks for the tip!MJcatatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:one note. they come in different flavors and I have found my cats will eat some flavors and NOT others. cats. lol.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yeah, they work great for hard to do kitties! I have them, shoved the pill inside the treat or without. Depending on thebrand you get there are different kinds too.In a message dated 8/1/2006 9:43:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some people use Pill Pockets; you can get them atPetsmart.:)Wendy Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
RE: Introduction and new cat question
Kerry, Thank you so much for your thoughts. You are right, to have a support group would make a big difference. What I wonder is, if I lost Satch, would I adopt another FeLV+ cat? I like taking in the hard-to-adopt animals, because it does feel so good, so I think that I might, but I'm not sure - a support system would be a big change in this.My Humane Society is no kill, so I don't feel like I need to rescue this kitten, which is nice, they do an excellent job of finding homes for their animals. But just take a look at her: http://www.oregonhumane.org/cats/detail.asp?animalID=45154 What a cutie! :) Andhow wonderful about the retest, Kerry!!! Did you follow a course of treatment toobtain this result? If you've already discussed publicly, please send me the archived conversation, I'd love to read it. As I've said privatelyin thanking those others who've responded, I'm really thrilled to have found this group! Leslie --Message: 2Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:25:10 -0500From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Introduction and new cat questionTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-asciiWelcome Leslie! It's good to have you on board, although I'm sorry forthe reason you've had to find us.I think you just answered your own question. I think the capacity for heartbreak and pain that often accompanies acommitment to our little FeLV souls varies according to the individual(I say often, by the way, because quite a few members have FeLV positives that are a ripe old age, and happily still going strong). Ihave been humbled and amazed and inspired in turn by the sheerdedication of so many of the wonderful people on this list to thewelfare of cats in need. Many--most?--of them have suffered heartbreak over and over again but somehow gather the strength to keep going, to dowhatever they can for cats in need. I know I could not have got throughlosing so many---4 sweet positives, 2 of whom I lost one after another on the same awful day, and months later, a darling CRF cat, who I hadfostered-for-life in the meantime--without the support of the group. Iknow that I'll lose more (unless I go first!); but I feel I'll get through it. Knowing I can perhaps do a little to help improve thequality of life of a cat that is totally dependent on me has so faroutweighed any inclination I may have had to protect myself from furthergrief. But, I have to add that for me, at any rate, it would have been much, much harder without the tremendous support of this group.We'll be here for you, too.My positives all enjoyed each other's company for the short time (18months - 2 years) that they had, and I know that having each other added to their quality of life. I have scores of photos of them playing andcuddling up together which make me smile now, even though they're nolonger physically with me.I'd say, go for it!And welcome again! Kerry PS On an even happier note, when I retested the 5th (and onlyremaining) kitten of the original colony of 6, he tested negative---he'sthrown off the virus. Yes, that can happen too. I didn't really believe it until I saw it for myself.
Re: Bonyness
Thanks everyone for your insight and advice. I'm going to the vet tomorrow to get the dewormer. I couldn't get an appointment, but at least I can get the meds. I'll let you know if he improves. Thanks again!!!MJcatatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Cats do go through a 'lanky' looking stage at about that age. They're pudgier as kittens and then again as adults... but if the vet says Slinky has tapes I would go ahead and ask for the med. now and not wait.tMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi again all. Some of you may have seen this in another post I sent, but I thought I should send it with a more appropriate subject.Slinky is about 15 or 16 weeks old (we're guessing) and tested positive for FeLV when I took him to the vet just over a week ago. The vet said everything else looked good except that he has tapeworm (which they called me about after I left - said they'd treat it when I went back in 3 weeks for the next round of vaccinations).He's been eating pretty well (I think...not sure how much he's supposed to eat, but I refill his food dish about every other day usually) and has been very active and friendly.I've also noticed lately that he's grown a lot in the two weeks I've had him.But lately I've noticed that when I pet him, I can feel his front "shoulders" sticking up behind his neck. I can also feel his ribs if I press a little. I'm not sure if this is normal (could he be growing faster than he's putting on weight and will catch up later?) or if I should be worried. I've been changing his food (from purina kitten chow to Innova Evo dry...will add canned soon as well) and also took him on a 5.5 hour road trip this weekend, so he's had a bit of adjustment going on, but that hasn't seemed to faze him much. As I said, he seems healthy. But should I be worried about his "bonyness"? Should I take him to the vet this week? I didn't ask the vet about "bonyness" when I was there (hadn't noticed it), but he was about 4 pounds and they seemd to think that was fine.What do you all think? Thanks for your support and advice!!MJ Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: Rusty Update...
Isn't that the truth! People just don't give them credit for being as smart as they are. In a message dated 8/1/2006 3:29:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Listen, I figured out long ago that our cats all speak English but don'twant us to know. Just say the word, dinner, food, carrier, treat, and theyreact!!! If they so much as hear the carrier coming down from the shelfcloset, they all head for the hills! Of course, I have one who delights inwaiting til he sees one of the other cats being put in the carrier andimmediately goes up to the close carrier to taunt the poor 'victim'--makesfor some interesting howls!Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BelindaSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:20 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Rusty Update... Thank God my furkids aren't that bad, in fact most of mine come out to see what is is going on and even get in the carrier to snoop, usually not the one that is going to the vet though, they always know don't they??!!-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Bonyness
I would recommend though before you actually give him whatever medicine you give him to research and make sure that there is no side effects for kittens some of the medicine can be very toxic to kittens.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bonyness Thanks everyone for your insight and advice. I'm going to the vet tomorrow to get the dewormer. I couldn't get an appointment, but at least I can get the meds. I'll let you know if he improves. Thanks again!!! MJ catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cats do go through a 'lanky' looking stage at about that age. They're pudgier as kittens and then again as adults... but if the vet says Slinky has tapes I would go ahead and ask for the med. now and not wait. t Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again all. Some of you may have seen this in another post I sent, but I thought I should send it with a more appropriate subject. Slinky is about 15 or 16 weeks old (we're guessing) and tested positive for FeLV when I took him to the vet just over a week ago. The vet said everything else looked good except that he has tapeworm (which they called me about after I left - said they'd treat it when I went back in 3 weeks for the next round of vaccinations). He's been eating pretty well (I think...not sure how much he's supposed to eat, but I refill his food dish about every other day usually) and has been very active and friendly.I've also noticed lately that he's grown a lot in the two weeks I've had him. But lately I've noticed that when I pet him, I can feel his front shoulders sticking up behind his neck. I can also feel his ribs if I press a little. I'm not sure if this is normal (could he be growing faster than he's putting on weight and will catch up later?) or if I should be worried. I've been changing his food (from purina kitten chow to Innova Evo dry...will add canned soon as well) and also took him on a 5.5 hour road trip this weekend, so he's had a bit of adjustment going on, but that hasn't seemed to faze him much. As I said, he seems healthy. But should I be worried about his bonyness? Should I take him to the vet this week? I didn't ask the vet about bonyness when I was there (hadn't noticed it), but he was about 4 pounds and they seemd to think that was fine. What do you all think? Thanks for your support and advice!! MJ Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: Introduction and new cat question
Yes, she is a doll! She looks like my Torti named "Buggy" if you like to see a photo of her let me know I can send a photo to you or anyone. She was a rescue too at the age of 5 weeks old. I've had her for 4 yrs now. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Help for my Little Girl
She is a precious little angel muffin. It makes me so happy to see her well. and you should see her sporting her new Beastie Bandcollar from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue. (Thank You Phaewryn!) She thinks she is the cat's pajamas. It's so light-weight and comfortable for her. She loved it immediately and told me so. Check them out! (I've got to get some more) Little Cheetah Cat Rescue In a message dated 8/1/2006 11:24:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elizabeth,Congratulations on Mama Kitty's reversion to kittenhood! Doesn't it do your heart good to see them so healthy and happy?! Congratulations on "turning" your vet as well. Hooray!! Another one for our side!Nina
RE: Bonyness
Drontal is typically used for deworming, including tape worms. It is safe for kittens but the dosage is based on weight.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I would recommend though before you actually give him whatever medicine you give him to research and make sure that there is no side effects for kittens some of the medicine can be very toxic to kittens..From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa JohnsonSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:32 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: "Bonyness" Thanks everyone for your insight and advice. I'm going to the vet tomorrow to get the dewormer. I couldn't get an appointment, but at least I can get the meds. I'll let you know if he improves. Thanks again!!!MJcatatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cats do go through a 'lanky' looking stage at about that age. They're pudgier as kittens and then again as adults... but if the vet says Slinky has tapes I would go ahead and ask for the med. now and not wait.tMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again all. Some of you may have seen this in another post I sent, but I thought I should send it with a more appropriate subject.Slinky is about 15 or 16 weeks old (we're guessing) and tested positive for FeLV when I took him to the vet just over a week ago. The vet said everything else looked good except that he has tapeworm (which they called me about after I left - said they'd treat it when I went back in 3 weeks for the next round of vaccinations).He's been eating pretty well (I think...not sure how much he's supposed to eat, but I refill his food dish about every other day usually) and has been very active and friendly.I've also noticed lately that he's grown a lot in the two weeks I've had him.But lately I've noticed that when I pet him, I can feel his front "shoulders" sticking up behind his neck. I can also feel his ribs if I press a little. I'm not sure if this is normal (could he be growing faster than he's putting on weight and will catch up later?) or if I should be worried. I've been changing his food (from purina kitten chow to Innova Evo dry...will add canned soon as well) and also took him on a 5.5 hour road trip this weekend, so he's had a bit of adjustment going on, but that hasn't seemed to faze him much. As I said, he seems healthy. But should I be worried about his "bonyness"? Should I take him to the vet this week? I didn't ask the vet about "bonyness" when I was there (hadn't noticed it), but he was about 4 pounds and they seemd to think that was fine.What do you all think? Thanks for your support and advice!!MJ Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: Slinky's weight
Hi, I am pretty new to the group as well, just wanted to tell you that my four kittens are about the same age as yours, also looking a bit lanky at the moment,and they run from 3.75 lbs to 4.5 lbs. The small one is a girl who tests negative, thesingle FeLV+ is just over 4 lbs.We haveour radar up on the little one, but as long as she continues to gain my vet isn't too concerned.They've outgrown my bird scale, I think we may invest in a cheap digital vet scale just to keep track betweencheckups... Welcome to the group, Beth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again all. Some of you may have seen this in another post I sent, but I thought I should send it with a more appropriate subject. Slinky is about 15 or 16 weeks old (we're guessing)... ...but he was about 4 pounds and they seemd to think that was fine.
Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
No, it is a stronger, faster-acting steroid than prednisone/prednisolone. Michelle In a message dated 8/1/2006 6:36:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it a type of antibiotics?
RE: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
You said it all and said it so eloquently!!! I also know about the pillows, driving , and all of the little things which are really the big things in dealing with (back) pain..you speak from experience..yes, robaxin is one that is tried and true, also- I had forgotten about that drug.You are right,as I , too, mentioned earlier, the drug reps push the newer and much more expensive drugs.What is funny is that when I spend the night in someone else's home, they say, "Oh, you didn't have to bring your own pillow", and I have to explain that oh yes I did.,, Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCatsSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:34 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk it's funny, helene, because while the parafon forte helped with the pain, it was the soma that enabled me to get back to work after my first two surgeries--so much depends on one's own individual response to a medication. soma NEVER made me drowsy or feel drugged; it almost felt as if it energized me by removing the constant strain of trying to deal with the pain. yet i had a housemate who used my soma as her addiction of choice. it may also have to do with what they're learning about people with chronic pain and their reaction to meds in general--that, for example, people with high levels of chronic pain do not respond to opiates the same way people without it do--that things like vicodin and others do NOT tend to create dependence as they do for people without chronic pain. i know for myself, that if i take a vicodin in the morning when i wake up, it enables me to make it through the day without another one yet when i've had to take it for an acute condition, unrelated to the back problems (like, oh, having all my teeth pulled last month, or for a second-degree burn a few months ago), half of one knocked me out! robaxin is another old-school drug that many people had good results with in the past. like soma and parafon forte, they're generics so no one makes a lot of money on them, and thus drug reps don't push them--never forget that docs get almost no pharmaceutical education in school, and way too many never do more than take the word of the drug reps for what they should prescribe. of course it's hard to not tense up when the pain is most intense! i learned to remind myself that the pain is coming from an irritated nerve, and the longer i do things to keep it irritated (ie, walk, move, you know, those sorts of things), the longer it was gonna take for the nerve to have a chance to calm down. you just have to STOP and let it be. something else i finally figured out, after about three years, was how TIRING it is to be in pain--it takes a lot of energy to function with such an insult to your system going on. so getting a medication that works for the individual, and doing gentle stuff like stretching exercises all the time, really makes a difference. other little accommodations: experiment with pillow and supports for the car and for furniture in the house. i can tell within 5 minutes if a chair or a bed or a couch or a car seat is gonna kill me--and i'd rather be on the floor than in one of those that's gonna make things worse. a simple pillow of the right consistency can make a HUGE difference! talk to your chiro about prescribing an obus forme chair support--has an adjustable lumbar pillow, you can carry it from car to chair to friend's houses--i've taken it on camping trips! i'm still using the one i got back in 78. good luck, and keep us informed... MC On 8/1/06, Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parafon forte isRX, not OTC.So is soma; from long, long experience I cantell you that parafon is better than soma because it does not cause you to feel drugged or sleepy. And it works!I keep a supply on hand at all times!Some of the newest docs don't prescribe it cause it has been used for solong it's been forgotten. that they only hear about and prescribe the new ones.Granted, there are a lot of newer muscle relaxants out there, butmost of them have the tendency to make you feel groggy! Get an RX and tryit!!Besides, it is much cheaper than the ones the drug reps try to push!!! Helene-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of wendySent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:37 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated diskThank you to all of you who responded about the herniated disk.I forwardedyour messages to my husband at work yesterday.We paid a chiropractor $3500yesterday for 20 sessions on a spinal decompression machine for lower back pain, a chair for excersizes he can bring home, and a few other items.I hope this helps my husband, because at the rate he's going, he won't beable to
