Re: Question #2: Grooming
I agreed with MC observations and suggestions regarding grooming! You have to go on what each individual cat likes when it comes to different grooming tasks! I find that most cats in general like to be brushed. Brushing can be a positive bonding experience for you and the cat. MC's suggestion regarding the Zoom Groom is correct. My cats love the Zoom Groom when I have time to use it. I usually brush only the cats that are long hair or are fat. Fat cats have a difficult time grooming their hind end due to their weight and get knotted up. Cat rescue keeps me pretty busy! I think my rescues get more attention then my own personal cats! I feel guilty alot of times regarding not having enough time for my own cats. Baths are a different story! Usually that is the worldwide wrestling of human verses kitty! I will not give a bath to a cat or kitten unless they are dirty from dirt, grease, urine, feces or other substances. I specialize in orphan kittens under the age of 4 weeks. That is when I give alot of baths. My last litter of kittens that was three days old when I got them required three baths a day! Talk about dish pan hands! Nail clipping usually is done in sessions. If I can get two to three nails clipped, I count my blessings! If I get a whole paw or two, I feel truly lucky and I am off to play the lottery! I try to remember to clip nails once a month with the rescues. My own personal cats is when their nails catch on me or anything else! I have the best success when I go to the vet. The cats are so upset about not being home that they will let me clip all four paws! I do not have time to brush teeth with any of the cats, rescues or private! I have heard that once a day is good! With my FIV cats (private and rescues), I will use a dental variety (regular or prescription) dry food to help with their teeth. Ear cleaning is done only when necessity! My personal cats ears rarely get cleaned because usually do not need it. The rescue cats ears are checked, elevated and cleaned once when coming in. If infected, they are treated for the infection until it clears up and left alone afterward. You have to be careful about ear cleaning! Too much ear cleaning can cause a yeast infection! Precious Pets --- TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: combing/brushing has a lot to do with the particular cat--i have persians and dlhs, so we sit around and knit ourselves together. i am incapable of holding a cat without checking for mats, and starting out detangling with fingers i have brushes and combs all over the house (those that the cats haven't hidden on me, at least, including next to the bed. last year, i broke down and bought a clipper, because matted persians will allow clipping WAY before they'll accept having the knots removed less mechanically! with short-haired cats, brushing isn't AS vital, however, if you go and get yourself a Zoom Groom, which most cats LOVE, you'll be amazed at how much stuff is hanging out on your short-haired cat! in fact, i'm almost convinced that short-hairs shed MORE than long-hairs do. prices vary, but it shouldn't be much more than this:http://www.petcarecentral.com/ko-117.html i've had cats who hate being brushed FIGHT over whose turn is next with one of these. they're useless for long coats, tho. if you've got a kitty with only a few mats, use baby powder and sort of rub it into the mat--that breaks them up and makes brushing/combing them out much easier. detangling sprays are available, too, but the baby powder actually works almost as well. i clip their claws when they start sticking to things---me, the furniture, the screens, etc. i rarely clip rear claws. it's important to keep an eye on claws because they can grow back into the pads and cause infections/pain. i haven't done a full-body bath on a cat in years. with the persians, well, when there's diarrhea, it gets ripe pretty easily, so partial baths are occasionally necessary. if the offending substance has already dried, i'll usually use the clippers instead of trying to rehydrate the mess. teeth. well, i know that i SHOULD be brushing their teeth, but i just haven't been able to bring myself to doing it. rita from purrever ranch mentioned recently about adding ground-up bones to food to remove tartar--i'd like more info on that! i pretty much ignore their ears until they let me know there's a problem; usually if its anything, it's earmites, and i give them a dose of ivermectin. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Question #2: Grooming
I never thought about the flea comb for basic grooming for the short hair cats! I got to try that. ROFL regarding the force! Boy is that true! Precious Pets --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh - I was going to say too...most of my cats have short hair (two don't)..but for the short-haired guys I got a very fine-toothed flea comb in the doggy section of PetSmart. You would be amazed how much hair you can comb out of a short-haired cat! It really gets down to the undercoat too...especially on their back near their tail. I comb them out about once a week...and I'm talking big handfulls of hair off of each one. Yeah - I know I'm a nut...but I'm totally allergic to cats and have eight in my house. The thing is though - my quality of life would diminish so much without my babies LOL I'm not going to live in a bubble. Using that flea comb and keeping everything washed frequently in hot water makes all the difference in the world. Have benedryl - will travel! LOL Something very remarkable happens when I bathe a cat (which is like - never -- has to be a good reason). It is as though both me and the cat grow these huge, powerful energy fields of opposite polarity. The force is so strong that the cat instantly attaches to me, my head, my legs. It defies the laws of physics! Talk about bonding... elizabeth :0) *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Question #2: Grooming combing/brushing has a lot to do with the particular cat--i have persians and dlhs, so we sit around and knit ourselves together. i am incapable of holding a cat without checking for mats, and starting out detangling with fingers i have brushes and combs all over the house (those that the cats haven't hidden on me, at least, including next to the bed. last year, i broke down and bought a clipper, because matted persians will allow clipping WAY before they'll accept having the knots removed less mechanically!with short-haired cats, brushing isn't AS vital, however, if you go and get yourself a Zoom Groom, which most cats LOVE, you'll be amazed at how much stuff is hanging out on your short-haired cat! in fact, i'm almost convinced that short-hairs shed MORE than long-hairs do. prices vary, but it shouldn't be much more than this: http://www.petcarecentral.com/ko-117.html i've had cats who hate being brushed FIGHT over whose turn is next with one of these. they're useless for long coats, tho. if you've got a kitty with only a few mats, use baby powder and sort of rub it into the mat--that breaks them up and makes brushing/combing them out much easier. detangling sprays are available, too, but the baby powder actually works almost as well.i clip their claws when they start sticking to things---me, the furniture, the screens, etc. i rarely clip rear claws. it's important to keep an eye on claws because they can grow back into the pads and cause infections/pain. i haven't done a full-body bath on a cat in years. with the persians, well, when there's diarrhea, it gets ripe pretty easily, so partial baths are occasionally necessary. if the offending substance has already dried, i'll usually use the clippers instead of trying to rehydrate the mess.teeth. well, i know that i SHOULD be brushing their teeth, but i just haven't been able to bring myself to doing it. rita from purrever ranch mentioned recently about adding ground-up bones to food to remove tartar--i'd like more info on that!i pretty much ignore their ears until they let me know there's a problem; usually if its anything, it's earmites, and i give them a dose of ivermectin. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Re: Wendy - How's your husband's back?
Wendy: I am glad to hear that your husband is responding to his treatment! It is so hard living with someone that is in constant pain! I know because my husband was in constant pain too! At least, your husband found treatment and is dealing with it. Until two months ago that is all I had to deal with. Now I cannot remember the last time he complained about his back. My husband suffered a stroke and is now wheelchair bound and is para lazed almost 3/4 of his right side. The only part of his right side of his body that was not totally affected was the right side of his head! That another reason on top of every else that I do not have much time laterly! Precious Pets --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Nina, How are you? I hope everything is going well. Thanks for asking about my husband. He's doing ok. The spinal decompression is actually working, believe it or not. One of two herniated disks has moved off the sciatic after 10 treatments. We know this because he has stopped having the pain shooting down the buttocks and back of the thigh. All he has now is pain in his calf/ankle. He has 10 more treatments to go. I am thinking this is going to be a great week for him. I can't wait until he's pain free. I love him and shouldn't complain, but it's hard to live with someone who is groaning all the time and/or on painkillers. Does that sound horrible? It probably does. I guess I'm venting a bit, and of course, feel bad about that, but it's true. We were in CVS one day filling a hydrocodone prescrip for him, and he was on valium, and he thought he was being funny by asking very loudly in front of about 15 customers if we needed any Trojans while standing by the condom aisle. :O. He would NEVER do something like that off meds. LOL. So things are finally looking up. Hopefully, I will not strangle him before he is pain free. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
I Thought I Was Getting Caught Up!!
Greetings! I will have to say that this board can be quite a surprise! Here I am thinking yesterday morning that I am getting caught up with my e-mail from the board. I leave to take care of my husband before his first rehab session and escort him to rehab. I come back yesterday evening and my box is overflowing!! LOL Boy, you guys were busy bees yesterday! Precious Pets __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Satch is coughing
Hi, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond, but things change so fast and I hate writing all optimistically just to be congratulated and have to reply with bad news. Satch held his appetite and a ~102 degree fever over the weekend. It dropped to 100 yesterday, is back up in the 101 degree range today. His spirits seemed to gather yesterday, as his appetite waned. His congestion sounds just awful, I wish that there was kitty expectorant to give him. Nothing much is coming out and I wonder if the coughing is making his throat sore and hence the not eating. I hate not eating cats! They make me want to curl up and cry. He's not going to be easy to force feed. He hasn't stopped completely, but compared to what he normally eats, he may as well have. When do you start the force feeding? How long do you give them to regain interest? Again, his spirits seem good, he slept close last night, isn't in hiding, he hangs out in the windows and meows like he wants food, then when it's pointed out to him, he just walks away. He's still drinking water on his own. Does he know that he'll vomit if he eats and that's why he doesn't? I don't want to add vomiting to the mix. When I put more tuna in his mouth he gagged it back up. Same thing with some fancy feast. He ate some of my raw food last night, not much. He ate some baby food last night, licked it off of my fingers, but again, not much. He ate some tuna/drank the juice, but not much this morning. I'm off to the store for a humidifier to help with the breathing and the makings of the liver shake. I'll call the vet again today to get his take. If he says to start the forcefeeding, I don't know what to do. I'm supposed to go back home to St Louis for four days tomorrow to see family. I can't leave a cat that needs to get force fed with someone. My boyfriend was going to watch him, and I was okay leaving him the task of giving the Clavamox, but he's a dog person (who also loves Satch) - so asking him to force feed seems unfair to both parties. I'll ask the vet today what the Western Herbal Tincture was intended to do, I don't think that it's meant to be ongoing, it made Satch vomit, so I stopped using it. I'm so distraught, I don't know what to do. I just want him to eat again. I can't leave him not eating, but how can I explain to my 97 year old grandmother that I canceled my trip to come back and see her for a sick cat? Leslie --Message: 5Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:41:39 -0700From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Satch is coughingTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedOh for God's sake, Satch better be okay.With situations like this Iusually stop praying to Spirit and start threatening :).You did good taking him in right away.It sounds like you met a nice new vet in theprocess and he knows about the 'don't wait and see approach for a pos',that's a good sign!I like that he was encouraging you to adopt another too.Yep, I like his attitude.Find out what the herb is that he putSatchmo on and let us know what it is, we're always looking for benignways to improve immune response, (I assume that's what the herb is for?).How is Satchmo doing now?Any more coughing?Are you positiveit wasn't just a hairball?Keep us informed,Nina
Re: Satch is coughing
Hi Leslie, Sorry for all of your turmoil about your trip. Can you have Satch boarded at your vets office while you are gone? That way they can force feed him (and they are usually pros at it) or even give him nutrients via IV if necessary. It would give you alot more peace of mind during your trip... Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Leslie wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:47:54 -0700 From: Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Satch is coughing Hi, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond, but things change so fast and I hate writing all optimistically just to be congratulated and have to reply with bad news. Satch held his appetite and a ~102 degree fever over the weekend. It dropped to 100 yesterday, is back up in the 101 degree range today. His spirits seemed to gather yesterday, as his appetite waned. His congestion sounds just awful, I wish that there was kitty expectorant to give him. Nothing much is coming out and I wonder if the coughing is making his throat sore and hence the not eating. I hate not eating cats! They make me want to curl up and cry. He's not going to be easy to force feed. He hasn't stopped completely, but compared to what he normally eats, he may as well have. When do you start the force feeding? How long do you give them to regain interest? Again, his spirits seem good, he slept close last night, isn't in hiding, he hangs out in the windows and meows like he wants food, then when it's pointed out to him, he just walks away. He's still drinking water on his own. Does he know that he'll vomit if he eats and that's why he doesn't? I don't want to add vomiting to the mix. When I put more tuna in his mouth he gagged it back up. Same thing with some fancy feast. He ate some of my raw food last night, not much. He ate some baby food last night, licked it off of my fingers, but again, not much. He ate some tuna/drank the juice, but not much this morning. I'm off to the store for a humidifier to help with the breathing and the makings of the liver shake. I'll call the vet again today to get his take. If he says to start the forcefeeding, I don't know what to do. I'm supposed to go back home to St Louis for four days tomorrow to see family. I can't leave a cat that needs to get force fed with someone. My boyfriend was going to watch him, and I was okay leaving him the task of giving the Clavamox, but he's a dog person (who also loves Satch) - so asking him to force feed seems unfair to both parties. I'll ask the vet today what the Western Herbal Tincture was intended to do, I don't think that it's meant to be ongoing, it made Satch vomit, so I stopped using it. I'm so distraught, I don't know what to do. I just want him to eat again. I can't leave him not eating, but how can I explain to my 97 year old grandmother that I canceled my trip to come back and see her for a sick cat? Leslie -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:41:39 -0700 From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Satch is coughing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oh for God's sake, Satch better be okay. With situations like this I usually stop praying to Spirit and start threatening :). You did good taking him in right away. It sounds like you met a nice new vet in the process and he knows about the 'don't wait and see approach for a pos', that's a good sign! I like that he was encouraging you to adopt another too. Yep, I like his attitude. Find out what the herb is that he put Satchmo on and let us know what it is, we're always looking for benign ways to improve immune response, (I assume that's what the herb is for?). How is Satchmo doing now? Any more coughing? Are you positive it wasn't just a hairball? Keep us informed, Nina
Re: Inky update
Is amylase a liver enzyme? If so, ask the vet about denosyl, which is really just SAMe marketed for veterinary use. It is a natural product that can help a lot with liver failure. Michelle
To Gina: Re: OT: Re: Question #3: Supplements
Hey Gina, I am not sure how much is too much lysine, but from what I've read, if kitty is asymptomatic, then 250 mg. per day is good for maintenance. If kitty has symptoms or is ill, then 500 mg. per day is not too much. That's what I gave Smookie when she had a corneal ulcer. If she tests negative on the second FeLV test, then I don't see the need to boost her immune system, unless the test is wrong. I have a kitty with feline herpes and I don't give her lysine unless she has symptoms. Some people do though. It just depends on the person and their philosophy. It is good for them, so doing it for maintenance or for symptoms, either way is fine. I am not sure how much lysine is too much. I think some people even give 1000 mg. per day or more depending on how sick kitty is. You should research this more though. You can find info. on the web. Just pay attention to the sources. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Satch is Coughing
Hi Kat, Thank you for the suggestion, it's good one. When the vet calls back I'll ask if he has any recommendations, I don't believe that they board at their office. If the cost is more than changing the ticket, then I'll stay, if not, I'll go. And hopefully he wouldn't need to get forcefed the whole five days, so my boyfriend could pick up him before I got back, butI should be prepared for that. I'mcalmer now, I've woken up a tiny bit more. I was awakejust pettingSatch and listening to him breathe the better part of the night, so I'm a little cranky and a touch emotional. :) I just can't see this being it for him. He's in such good health otherwise, and the cost of bringing a sweet little kitten home to pass canNOT be his life. The world just canNOT work like that. I'm adamant also. :) Leslie Hi Leslie,Sorry for all of your turmoil about your trip.Can you have Satch boarded at your vets office while you are gone? That way they can force feed him (and they are usually pros at it)or even give him nutrients via IV if necessary.It would give you alotmore peace of mind during your trip...Kat (Mew Jersey)On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Leslie wrote:
Re: Satch is coughing
Hi Leslie, I wish Satch were doing better for you. I know you are frustrated. Several people here have said that you can use people expectorants with kitties but I don't know any more than that. Maybe someone will post more, or you can call and ask your vet. Also, there may be info. on it in the sick kitty manual that I sent out. Either way, I would double check with my vet before I used anything OTC. How much food do you think Satch is actually getting down each day? You shouldn't let him go long without getting enough nutrition. I am not sure how much he actually needs per day; I think that info. is in the sick kitty manual as well. Your vet can give you canned A/D to syringe feed him. It's VERY smooth and mixed with a little water is great for syringe feeding. Good luck with the liver shake. I hope he likes it. None of mine will eat it unfortunately. Syringe feeding isn't hard. I hold my kitties like a baby with their heads up a little higher than their body and syringe the food in very slowly, so they don't gag, into the side of their mouths. Can you take the kitty to St. Louis with you? Unless he starts eating soon, I would not leave him. You can cancel plane tickets and use them again usually for a $50 cancellation fee that you don't pay until you rebook the flight. If you leave and Satch dies, you will probably feel guilty forever, being the loving human that you are. If you can't take Satch with you, I'm sure your grandmother will understand delaying your trip a couple of weeks. As sweet as your boyfriend is, if Satch is attached to you, he may not do well while you are gone. Please keep us posted Leslie. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Satch is coughing
If you do board your kitty, make sure that the vet is a good one. I had a nightmare experience with leaving my cat at the vet's and if I hadn't gone to pick him up, he would have died. They did NOT syringe feed him, NOR give him any IV fluids, even after I had asked them to. I complained to the Texas Vet. Board to no avail. That board is currently being revamped to get rid of the good ol' boy system they've had for years to protect one another. Sorry to scare you, but I just don't think that the vet can care for our babies as well as we can (short of surgery), and they sure don't love them like we do. :) Wendy --- Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leslie, Sorry for all of your turmoil about your trip. Can you have Satch boarded at your vets office while you are gone? That way they can force feed him (and they are usually pros at it) or even give him nutrients via IV if necessary. It would give you alot more peace of mind during your trip... Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Leslie wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:47:54 -0700 From: Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Satch is coughing Hi, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond, but things change so fast and I hate writing all optimistically just to be congratulated and have to reply with bad news. Satch held his appetite and a ~102 degree fever over the weekend. It dropped to 100 yesterday, is back up in the 101 degree range today. His spirits seemed to gather yesterday, as his appetite waned. His congestion sounds just awful, I wish that there was kitty expectorant to give him. Nothing much is coming out and I wonder if the coughing is making his throat sore and hence the not eating. I hate not eating cats! They make me want to curl up and cry. He's not going to be easy to force feed. He hasn't stopped completely, but compared to what he normally eats, he may as well have. When do you start the force feeding? How long do you give them to regain interest? Again, his spirits seem good, he slept close last night, isn't in hiding, he hangs out in the windows and meows like he wants food, then when it's pointed out to him, he just walks away. He's still drinking water on his own. Does he know that he'll vomit if he eats and that's why he doesn't? I don't want to add vomiting to the mix. When I put more tuna in his mouth he gagged it back up. Same thing with some fancy feast. He ate some of my raw food last night, not much. He ate some baby food last night, licked it off of my fingers, but again, not much. He ate some tuna/drank the juice, but not much this morning. I'm off to the store for a humidifier to help with the breathing and the makings of the liver shake. I'll call the vet again today to get his take. If he says to start the forcefeeding, I don't know what to do. I'm supposed to go back home to St Louis for four days tomorrow to see family. I can't leave a cat that needs to get force fed with someone. My boyfriend was going to watch him, and I was okay leaving him the task of giving the Clavamox, but he's a dog person (who also loves Satch) - so asking him to force feed seems unfair to both parties. I'll ask the vet today what the Western Herbal Tincture was intended to do, I don't think that it's meant to be ongoing, it made Satch vomit, so I stopped using it. I'm so distraught, I don't know what to do. I just want him to eat again. I can't leave him not eating, but how can I explain to my 97 year old grandmother that I canceled my trip to come back and see her for a sick cat? Leslie -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:41:39 -0700 From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Satch is coughing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oh for God's sake, Satch better be okay. With situations like this I usually stop praying to Spirit and start threatening :). You did good taking him in right away. It sounds like you met a nice new vet in the process and he knows about the 'don't wait and see approach for a pos', that's a good sign! I like that he was encouraging you to adopt another too. Yep, I like his attitude. Find out what the herb is that he put Satchmo on and let us know what it is, we're always looking for benign ways to improve immune response, (I assume that's what the herb is for?). How is Satchmo doing now? Any more coughing? Are you positive it wasn't just a hairball? Keep us informed, Nina __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Re: Wendy - How's your husband's back?
Man, I cannot imagine what the two of you must be going through. Life is so unfair sometimes. I am sorry that your husband suffered such a debilitating stroke! I always dreamed of being the best grandmother, but to tell you the truth, I am not looking forward to my body aging. If you need anything, or just to vent, you know where to find me. Prayers going out to you guys, :) Wendy --- Precious Pets, Almost Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy: I am glad to hear that your husband is responding to his treatment! It is so hard living with someone that is in constant pain! I know because my husband was in constant pain too! At least, your husband found treatment and is dealing with it. Until two months ago that is all I had to deal with. Now I cannot remember the last time he complained about his back. My husband suffered a stroke and is now wheelchair bound and is para lazed almost 3/4 of his right side. The only part of his right side of his body that was not totally affected was the right side of his head! That another reason on top of every else that I do not have much time laterly! Precious Pets --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Nina, How are you? I hope everything is going well. Thanks for asking about my husband. He's doing ok. The spinal decompression is actually working, believe it or not. One of two herniated disks has moved off the sciatic after 10 treatments. We know this because he has stopped having the pain shooting down the buttocks and back of the thigh. All he has now is pain in his calf/ankle. He has 10 more treatments to go. I am thinking this is going to be a great week for him. I can't wait until he's pain free. I love him and shouldn't complain, but it's hard to live with someone who is groaning all the time and/or on painkillers. Does that sound horrible? It probably does. I guess I'm venting a bit, and of course, feel bad about that, but it's true. We were in CVS one day filling a hydrocodone prescrip for him, and he was on valium, and he thought he was being funny by asking very loudly in front of about 15 customers if we needed any Trojans while standing by the condom aisle. :O. He would NEVER do something like that off meds. LOL. So things are finally looking up. Hopefully, I will not strangle him before he is pain free. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Another Update on Smokey/Hemobartanella info.
Dee, Count your blessings as Hemobartanella is extremely hard to find on a slide at the lab and can be treated. That's what's causing the low blood count most assuredly. Here's info. from vetinfo.com: A cat with hemobartonellosis experiences depression, weight loss, decrease in appetite and anemia. There may be jaundice associated with this and approximately one-third of untreated cats will die from the infection. Cats that recover are usually infected for life but the organism is suppressed by the cat's immune system. Subsequent immune compromise from viruses like feline leukemia, stress or administration of corticosteroids cause a recurrence of the infection. The disease is probably transmitted by blood sucking insects and from infected mothers to their kittens during pregnancy. It may be possible to transmit from bite wounds and blood transfusions as well. The organism is visible in blood smears of infected cats but it has a tendency to come and go in the blood stream so it is sometimes necessary to make blood smears over the course of several days to identify the parasite. It can be treated with tetracycline class antibiotics with good success but even treated cats should be considered to be carriers of the disease and may experience recurrences later. Supportive care is often necessary for several days in cats with this condition and during the acute infection if may be necessary to use corticosteroids despite the immune suppression associated with these medications. It is very important to control fleas and other blood sucking organisms in a multiple cat household in which one member is found to have hemobartonellosis. It is a good idea to occasionally do followup bloodwork to make sure anemia is not recurring. Mike Richards, DVM Dee, this is not some horrible infection. It's treatable, although not curable. Don't freak out over it. None of us here freak out over it; we're more relieved when that's what's causing anemia because many times it's not diagnosed, and the cats die from anemia. Mine did. He was tested for hemo, but of course came back neg. This was before I knew how hard it is to find on a slide. Had I known, we would have tried doxy anyway, and he might still be here today. I am not sure what caused his anemia, but I will be damn sure from now on that anyone else who posts here on anemia has the info. on hemobart and doxy. As far as the probiotics goes, I have never used them with my kitties, but others here have. Post to the group about this with the subject line probiotics question or something like that, and you should get good info. on this. Sorry I can't be of more help to you. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Inky update
Kerry, I'm so sorry to hear that Inky had a crash at the vet's. I just hate when people have to board. It always seems like something goes wrong. I know that it always doesn't, but I haven't heard enough good stories to offset the bad. Anyone have any on kitties? I'm glad to hear Inky's doing much better! And Bandy too! I don't have any help regarding the questions you asked. You might consider reposting with a specific question; it might catch someone's eye who might otherwise not read this post. I hope all is going well with you. Please keep us posted on Bandy and Inky. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: To Gina: Re: OT: Re: Question #3: Supplements
I have noticed that Purina ONE and Science Diet and probably others have L-Lysine in their food... Does anyone know what the equivalent amount per serving is.. My guess is that it is much smaller than the 250 mg. but it would be interesting to know... Tad wendy wrote: Hey Gina, I am not sure how much is too much lysine, but from what I've read, if kitty is asymptomatic, then 250 mg. per day is good for maintenance. If kitty has symptoms or is ill, then 500 mg. per day is not too much. That's what I gave Smookie when she had a corneal ulcer. If she tests negative on the second FeLV test, then I don't see the need to boost her immune system, unless the test is wrong. I have a kitty with feline herpes and I don't give her lysine unless she has symptoms. Some people do though. It just depends on the person and their philosophy. It is good for them, so doing it for maintenance or for symptoms, either way is fine. I am not sure how much lysine is too much. I think some people even give 1000 mg. per day or more depending on how sick kitty is. You should research this more though. You can find info. on the web. Just pay attention to the sources. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her?
Hey guys, Have any of you talked to Michelle L. lately? I haven't seen her post in several weeks and was wondering if she was ok. Michelle, are you out there? :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her?
Wendy,Are you talking about Michelle Lerner? I just got a message from her today re: Inky. Hope that helps!MJwendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys,Have any of you talked to Michelle L. lately? Ihaven't seen her post in several weeks and waswondering if she was ok. Michelle, are you out there?:)Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
RE: Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her?
Michelle posted today and yesterday. Sounds like you're not getting her emails? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her? Hey guys, Have any of you talked to Michelle L. lately? I haven't seen her post in several weeks and was wondering if she was ok. Michelle, are you out there? :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her?
Was the msg. sent to you directly, or to the FeLV talk group? Thanks, Wendy --- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, Are you talking about Michelle Lerner? I just got a message from her today re: Inky. Hope that helps! MJ wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Have any of you talked to Michelle L. lately? I haven't seen her post in several weeks and was wondering if she was ok. Michelle, are you out there? :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her?
That's weird. I think I'm not getting a lot of emails now that I think about it. It's been really slow lately, and I've noticed people replying to posts I haven't received originally. Who do I talk to about this? Thanks, Wendy --- MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michelle posted today and yesterday. Sounds like you're not getting her emails? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her? Hey guys, Have any of you talked to Michelle L. lately? I haven't seen her post in several weeks and was wondering if she was ok. Michelle, are you out there? :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her?
maybe yahoo is filtering a bunch of them? I know I need to change my (home) ISP. (msn.com) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her? That's weird. I think I'm not getting a lot of emails now that I think about it. It's been really slow lately, and I've noticed people replying to posts I haven't received originally. Who do I talk to about this? Thanks, Wendy --- MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michelle posted today and yesterday. Sounds like you're not getting her emails? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her? Hey guys, Have any of you talked to Michelle L. lately? I haven't seen her post in several weeks and was wondering if she was ok. Michelle, are you out there? :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Michelle L.-Has anyone heard from her?
Hi. Sorry! I actually did post a couple of times. I have just been sick, and also have been at work a lot, and the combination has made me not have the energy to respond to many posts. I am trying to chip in when I think I have something to add, but may not be getting to it all the time. Very sorry-- if you want me to respond to something and I haven't, please put my name in the subject heading like you just did and I will be sure to see it. It's just that when I work, I commute over an hour each way and work 8 or 9 hour days, get home at 7:30 or 8 and need to take care of the animals, and then often do not feel like staying on the computer a long time as I am on the computer much of the day at work. I only do that 3 times a week, but I am sick now so not up to being online much today either. Thanks so much for worrying about me! :) Michelle
Re: Question #3: Supplements
This is the one I buy: http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbspid=NOW-00240 -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT: Re: Question #7: Carriers
On Carriers: I have hard, soft and a stroller kind, the stroller is for walking them to the vet, works really well. It comes apart to be a regular soft (sturdier than most though) so you can just carry it also. I really like it the best. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Question #8: Vets Neutering
My vet uses sevoflurane which is suppose to be even a little safer: What is different about sevoflurane? It is less soluble than isoflurane, which means that inductions and recoveries are even faster. Mask inductions with sevoflurane were faster and of better quality than with isoflurane in one study (Johnson, et al, 1998). Sevoflurane also appears to be better tolerated by mask induction, because it has low pungency and low airway irritability. Since sevoflurane is less potent than isoflurane (MAC for sevoflurane is 2.4% for dogs), the vaporizer setting usually needs to be higher than for isoflurane. Although the amount of metabolism of sevoflurane by the liver is slightly greater than for isoflurane, the extent of metabolism is similar to isoflurane due to its insolubility (hence rapid elimination). Link for article: http://www.surgivet.com/smart/archives/Isoflurane%20vs%20Sevoflurane.pdf#search=%22Isoflurane%20vs%20Sevoflurane%20in%20pets%22 Click here if above doesn't work -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Another Update on Smokey
The reason 1/3 die from it is it is VERY hard to diagnose and some cats will have it and get a negative test result and not get the treatment, I have never heard of a cat getting the correct treatment (doxy is preferred to treat it, though some cats need a 6 week course to eradicate it) ever dying from it. Any one else heard of that??? I alwyas treat if there is the slightest suspicion that my cat has it no matter what the test results are, I've known people who's cats have had 5 and even 6 negative tests but the cat actually had it!! The feline leukemia home page says it is a contagious disease, 1/3 of cats die from it, the ones who don't will have it for life. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: OT: Re: Question #7: Carriers
Belinda, can you share the name of the stroller---not having wheels (and getting older like the rest of us) I think I wd find that very useful! Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Re: Question #7: Carriers On Carriers: I have hard, soft and a stroller kind, the stroller is for walking them to the vet, works really well. It comes apart to be a regular soft (sturdier than most though) so you can just carry it also. I really like it the best. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: OT: Re: Question #7: Carriers
Sure I bought it on eBay, here it is, I don't think I bought it from them, I paid a little more ($70.00) I love it!! I bought it when Bailey got sick. http://cgi.ebay.com/RED-PET-TREX-3-IN-1-STROLLER-CARRIER-CAR-SEAT-DOG-CAT_W0QQitemZ280018536990QQihZ018QQcategoryZ116380QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem click here if link doesn't work I use mine all the time. I link it because it comes apart and can be used as a regular carrier, most of the others don't. Here is a link to other varieties: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40satitle=pet+stroller -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Worms and Wormer Question
Can someone send me some links to some wormers and information on common kitty worms? Anything that is better tolerated in FELV+ and FIV+? Steph
Re: Satch is coughing.
Hi Wendy, Thanks for writing. The vet said that the herbal tincture was actually meant to help with the congestion and that I should dilute it if it was making him sick. So I've just given that to him, we'll see if he can keep it down. I'll give that to him in smaller doses more frequently to see if it can help. I admit that I read in the cat veterinary handbook that said that Robitussinwas the only decongestant that would be okay and I gave him a couple of doses. Now that I know that the tincture was meant to do that, I'm switching back. The vet was adamant that I not put him in either a shelter or even a vet's office while I'm gone. He feels strongly that the stress of that situation would far outweigh staying in his comfort zone. He isn't worried about the appetite diminishing. He said that the antibiotic can do that and that as long as he's alert, acting like himself, the temp is down, and he still shows interest in the food, if brief, that he will be okay. He made me feel better in general and with leaving him, but if things turn worse, you're right, I will feel so bad personally, but also for my boyfriend to have been put through that. I'll call the airline now and see what it will cost. I think that the fee will be more like $130, but comparatively it might be worth it. He licked the liver shake off of my finger, but wasn't interested in the plate of it that I put down for him. Leslie From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Satch is coughing Hi Leslie,I wish Satch were doing better for you.I know youare frustrated.Several people here have said that you can use people expectorants with kitties but Idon't know any more than that.Maybe someone willpost more, or you can call and ask your vet.Also,there may be info. on it in the sick kitty manual that I sent out.Either way, I would double check with myvet before I used anything OTC.How much food do youthink Satch is actually getting down each day?Youshouldn't let him go long without getting enough nutrition.I am not sure how much he actually needsper day; I think that info. is in the sick kittymanual as well.Your vet can give you canned A/D tosyringe feed him.It's VERY smooth and mixed with a little water is great for syringe feeding.Good luckwith the liver shake.I hope he likes it.None ofmine will eat it unfortunately.Syringe feeding isn'thard.I hold my kitties like a baby with their heads up a little higher than their body and syringe thefood in very slowly, so they don't gag, into the sideof their mouths.Can you take the kitty to St. Louiswith you?Unless he starts eating soon, I would not leave him.You can cancel plane tickets and use themagain usually for a $50 cancellation fee that youdon't pay until you rebook the flight.If you leaveand Satch dies, you will probably feel guilty forever, being the loving human that you are.If you can'ttake Satch with you, I'm sure your grandmother willunderstand delaying your trip a couple of weeks.Assweet as your boyfriend is, if Satch is attached to you, he may not do well while you are gone.Pleasekeep us posted Leslie.:)Wendy__Message: 4Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT)From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Satch is coughingTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1If you do board your kitty, make sure that the vet isa good one.I had a nightmare experience with leaving my cat at the vet's and if I hadn't gone to pick himup, he would have died.They did NOT syringe feedhim, NOR give him any IV fluids, even after I hadasked them to.I complained to the Texas Vet. Board to no avail.That board is currently being revampedto get rid of the good ol' boy system they've had foryears to protect one another.Sorry to scare you, butI just don't think that the vet can care for our babies as well as we can (short of surgery), and theysure don't love them like we do.:)Wendy
Re: Satch is coughing
Hi, I was just on vacation and hired an incredible cat sitter. I got really lucky, she did some research on Felv+ kitties and was great with my girls. Might it be possible for you to find a petsitter or travelling vet in your area? I know it's tough to find someone you can trust with Satch! Good luck! Maggie
Re: Satch is coughing.
Leslie, Have you tried sprinkling a little catnip on Satch's food? Sometimes that's enough to entice Mio into eating when she's not feeling well. Just makes sure not to mix it in or else the food will cover up the catnip smell. Kiley From: Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Satch is coughing. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:23:03 -0700 Hi Wendy, Thanks for writing. The vet said that the herbal tincture was actually meant to help with the congestion and that I should dilute it if it was making him sick. So I've just given that to him, we'll see if he can keep it down. I'll give that to him in smaller doses more frequently to see if it can help. I admit that I read in the cat veterinary handbook that said that Robitussin was the only decongestant that would be okay and I gave him a couple of doses. Now that I know that the tincture was meant to do that, I'm switching back. The vet was adamant that I not put him in either a shelter or even a vet's office while I'm gone. He feels strongly that the stress of that situation would far outweigh staying in his comfort zone. He isn't worried about the appetite diminishing. He said that the antibiotic can do that and that as long as he's alert, acting like himself, the temp is down, and he still shows interest in the food, if brief, that he will be okay. He made me feel better in general and with leaving him, but if things turn worse, you're right, I will feel so bad personally, but also for my boyfriend to have been put through that. I'll call the airline now and see what it will cost. I think that the fee will be more like $130, but comparatively it might be worth it. He licked the liver shake off of my finger, but wasn't interested in the plate of it that I put down for him. Leslie From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Satch is coughing Hi Leslie, I wish Satch were doing better for you. I know you are frustrated. Several people here have said that you can use people expectorants with kitties but I don't know any more than that. Maybe someone will post more, or you can call and ask your vet. Also, there may be info. on it in the sick kitty manual that I sent out. Either way, I would double check with my vet before I used anything OTC. How much food do you think Satch is actually getting down each day? You shouldn't let him go long without getting enough nutrition. I am not sure how much he actually needs per day; I think that info. is in the sick kitty manual as well. Your vet can give you canned A/D to syringe feed him. It's VERY smooth and mixed with a little water is great for syringe feeding. Good luck with the liver shake. I hope he likes it. None of mine will eat it unfortunately. Syringe feeding isn't hard. I hold my kitties like a baby with their heads up a little higher than their body and syringe the food in very slowly, so they don't gag, into the side of their mouths. Can you take the kitty to St. Louis with you? Unless he starts eating soon, I would not leave him. You can cancel plane tickets and use them again usually for a $50 cancellation fee that you don't pay until you rebook the flight. If you leave and Satch dies, you will probably feel guilty forever, being the loving human that you are. If you can't take Satch with you, I'm sure your grandmother will understand delaying your trip a couple of weeks. As sweet as your boyfriend is, if Satch is attached to you, he may not do well while you are gone. Please keep us posted Leslie. :) Wendy __ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Satch is coughing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 If you do board your kitty, make sure that the vet is a good one. I had a nightmare experience with leaving my cat at the vet's and if I hadn't gone to pick him up, he would have died. They did NOT syringe feed him, NOR give him any IV fluids, even after I had asked them to. I complained to the Texas Vet. Board to no avail. That board is currently being revamped to get rid of the good ol' boy system they've had for years to protect one another. Sorry to scare you, but I just don't think that the vet can care for our babies as well as we can (short of surgery), and they sure don't love them like we do. :) Wendy
Re: anyone else use msn.com
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Re: Satch is coughing.
Hi. I would give him Immuno-regulin shots (article on website), which have really helped a few of our cats with URI's. Also, I would syringe feed him to get food into him, as he can get fatty liver disease if he goes more than a day or two without real nutrition. Michelle
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Is there any supplement that can help prevent anemia? Angel has been sleeping a lot today and I'm wondering if she is becoming anemic. Thanks,Karen All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.