RE: Feline Interferon Omega importation, can someone send me ALL the info and forms?

2007-02-21 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I have bought interferon from UK about a dozen times now.. you get it
nor problem without FDA letter 99% of the time,, I never had any
problems getting it.. All you need is to contact 
Abbyvet (distributer in UK) by your vet and they will ship it to you vet
directly.  Go to Dr. Diane Addie's site on FIP and it will have the link
(google, dr. addie FIP and you will get the site right away) --- you
have to buy 2 packs of 10 MU vial as minimum and it's about $1000.  let
me know if you need any questions.

 

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Subject: Feline Interferon Omega importation,can someone send me ALL the
info and forms?

 

Someone on another list is seeking to import Feline Interferon Omega,
and the info you guys have here would be very helpful. Doesn't the
person's vet need to contact your vet, who-ever it is here that has a
vet that does this? Sorry, details are blurry now! We need the vet's
name that has the info on how to do it, and copies of any required
forms. Send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] please! Thanks!


Phaewryn

 



Re: OT- Otomax without a prescription

2007-02-21 Thread Kelley Saveika

She's been on oral antibiotics for the past 2 weeks and is about to start
another 10 day dose.  First amoxi and now baytril i think.

On 2/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Oral antibiotics should clear an ear infection, no need for topical
antibiotics unless you just prefer to do it that way. That being said, I
have used Tresaderm, which is a thiabendazole, dexamethasone, and neomycin
sulfate solution for use in the ear. It's good for inflamed and painful
ears, as the steroid helps reduce the inflammation. I think it's a much
better product than the Otomax.

Phaewryn






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I'm back

2007-02-21 Thread Lomaxturtle
 
Hello All
 
Sorry I've been a silent member for a while due to work etc... but I  am 
unfortunately back now and will be for a while. 
 
Just had Minstral to the vets cos I noticed a very subtle behaviour change  - 
she became more affectionate to me and scratched her jaw a bit more than 
usual  - I suspected gingivitis again but Minstral being Minstral is not a 
handleable  cat at the best of times. However at vets we found only very mild 
Gingivitis but  her lymph nodes are a bit swollen. I think we are going to 
start 
interferon  omega now whilst we have caught the changes early. I have chosen 
not 
to do  bloods at the moment due to not wanted to stress her out to much.
 
PS - she isn't being affectionate now after I grabbed her from behind and  
bundled her into the cat carrier to go off to the vets bless her.
 
I hadn't seen this vet in consultation before but knew he would be good  from 
a brief encounter with him when we were going through the emergencies  with 
Bramble in the past. I instantly went in with a somewhat knowledgeable  
attitude and told him I had gone to him as I felt he would work with me to do  
everything possible for Minstral to help her have a quality of life and not  
write 
her off. After dropping in some technical terms he said I was well  informed so 
I think he will work with me. Unfortunately our last vet has left so  had to 
select another one so have to picky and find the right one.
 
Any tips very welcome?
 
Michelle, Buddy, Minstral  Angel  Bramble

   


Re: OT- www.1drugstore-online.com

2007-02-21 Thread Linda Johnson
Hi guys,
How reliable is www.1drugstore-online.com?  Does your
order arrive in a timely manner?
Linda

 I've used the clamamox, zithromax and baytril, but
 not the amoxi.  (I keep fish mox on the shelf --
 amoxicillin sold in the US without a perscription
 for aquatic use -- so I have no incentive to order
 amoxi from overseas.)


http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?name=otomaxbysearch=ok
 



 

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Re: OT- www.1drugstore-online.com

2007-02-21 Thread Linda Johnson
Hi guys,
How reliable is www.1drugstore-online.com?  Does your
order arrive in a timely manner?
Linda

 I've used the clamamox, zithromax and baytril, but
 not the amoxi.  (I keep fish mox on the shelf --
 amoxicillin sold in the US without a perscription
 for aquatic use -- so I have no incentive to order
 amoxi from overseas.)


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Re: OT- Otomax without a prescription

2007-02-21 Thread Kelley Saveika

I've heard of this stuff, but I'm under orders not to upset Missy so she
won't have a heart attack, so I get all her stuff professionally compounded
- I don't even try to pill her, because she does get upset.  I suppose I
could take the fish mox in to be compounded, but I don't know if they'd do
it.

You can buy the liquid stuff online, apparently.


On 2/20/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Never tried the fish Erythromycin but the fish mox is great.  I usually
buy from www.revivalanimal.com.  I think it's around $25 for 100 500-mg
capsules.  Works great.  The main difference is that the powder in the
capsules is coarser and doesn't dissolve as easily as human grade.

*[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

I second the Fish Mox (and the fish Erythromycin), I use it here too, for
myself and my son as well (I crush it and dilute with water or broth to use
for the cats).

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12101N=2004+113021


Phaewryn







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Re: OT- Otomax without a prescription

2007-02-21 Thread Susan Hoffman
I hide fish mox in meat baby food or tuna.   Also, you can get human grade 
amoxicillan and clavamox in an unflavored powder and hide that in whatever she 
likes to eat too.

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I've heard of this stuff, but I'm 
under orders not to upset Missy so she won't have a heart attack, so I get all 
her stuff professionally compounded - I don't even try to pill her, because she 
does get upset.  I suppose I could take the fish mox in to be compounded, but I 
don't know if they'd do it. 
   
  You can buy the liquid stuff online, apparently.

 
  On 2/20/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Never tried the fish 
Erythromycin but the fish mox is great.  I usually buy from 
www.revivalanimal.com.  I think it's around $25 for 100 500-mg capsules.  Works 
great.  The main difference is that the powder in the capsules is coarser and 
doesn't dissolve as easily as human grade.   

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second the Fish Mox (and 
the fish Erythromycin), I use it here too, for myself and my son as well (I 
crush it and dilute with water or broth to use for the cats). 
  
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12101N=2004+113021
  
  
Phaewryn
   






-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Re: OT- Otomax without a prescription

2007-02-21 Thread Kelley Saveika

How do you know how much to dose with the fish mox?

On 2/21/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I hide fish mox in meat baby food or tuna.   Also, you can get human grade
amoxicillan and clavamox in an unflavored powder and hide that in whatever
she likes to eat too.

*Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

I've heard of this stuff, but I'm under orders not to upset Missy so she
won't have a heart attack, so I get all her stuff professionally compounded
- I don't even try to pill her, because she does get upset.  I suppose I
could take the fish mox in to be compounded, but I don't know if they'd do
it.

You can buy the liquid stuff online, apparently.


On 2/20/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Never tried the fish Erythromycin but the fish mox is great.  I usually
 buy from www.revivalanimal.com.  I think it's around $25 for 100 500-mg
 capsules.  Works great.  The main difference is that the powder in the
 capsules is coarser and doesn't dissolve as easily as human grade.

 *[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 I second the Fish Mox (and the fish Erythromycin), I use it here too,
 for myself and my son as well (I crush it and dilute with water or broth to
 use for the cats).
 
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12101N=2004+113021


 Phaewryn






--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Re: OT- www.1drugstore-online.com

2007-02-21 Thread Susan Hoffman
I've been ordering from them regularly for 12-18 months and they are wonderful. 
 Great customer service (via email), high quality meds, even the generics.  
They are shipping from Thailand and don't offer express to the US but my order 
arrives in California within 10 days or so of the order date.  Never a problem 
with the charges on my credit card.  I was originally told about them by 
another rescue person who had been using them for awhile herself.
   
  I recently had a problem with an order of zithromax.  Customs seized it and I 
received a notice from the FDA telling me they would hold it for 30 days in 
case I wanted to tell them why I should have it.  (FDA cited a code section 
claiming it was an unknown or unapproved med in the US.  Rather than explain 
that it was a common antibiotic and 12 capsules was well within the usual pass 
given for a 3 month supply for personal use, I decided to let them hold onto 
it.  Why argue about 12 capsules of zith and have every foreign shipment 
scrutinized in the future?)  So, I emailed customer service at 
1drugstore-online and told them what happened.  Emailed them in the afternoon 
from my office, had a very nice apologetic reply by the time I got home from 
work.  They offered to reship and asked me to scan or fax (to a US fax number) 
the FDA notice.  And so I did.  And my replacement order arrived yesterday.  
They were so responsive, apologetic, and quick to rectify the situation. 
 Really, some of the best customer service I have seen online.
   
   
   
  

Linda Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys,
How reliable is www.1drugstore-online.com? Does your
order arrive in a timely manner?
Linda

 I've used the clamamox, zithromax and baytril, but
 not the amoxi. (I keep fish mox on the shelf --
 amoxicillin sold in the US without a perscription
 for aquatic use -- so I have no incentive to order
 amoxi from overseas.)


http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?name=otomaxbysearch=ok
 





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OT - Quality of life

2007-02-21 Thread Kelley Saveika

Hi guys,

Some of you remember I took in an aggressive owner surrendered cat named
Caroline.  Well, Caroline is fine with me now.  She loves me, rubs up
against me, wants pets, etc.  Unfortunately, she is still cat aggressive.

She's been living in my bathroom since November.  I don't think this is a
great life for a kitty, but I can't risk my other kitties well being.  I'm
thinking of medicating her and giving that a try.  I've tried short periods
of time one on one with another kitty in the bathroom and not only is she
aggressive to the other kitty, she backslides and starts trying to bite me.
I am starting to think it would be better for her to be on meds than for her
to be stuck in the bathroom for any longer.

What do yall think?
Thanks,

Kelley
--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20


Re: OT- Otomax without a prescription

2007-02-21 Thread Susan Hoffman
It's pretty much the same as amoxi or clavamox, so whatever your vet has been 
prescribing.  And the capules are 500 mg each so I just divvy it up.  I usuay 
go for 125 mg daily but it depends on what the problem is and how severe.  
There is an acceptable dosage range, not just one specific dose engraved in 
stone.

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  How do you know how much to dose 
with the fish mox?

  On 2/21/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I hide fish mox in 
meat baby food or tuna.   Also, you can get human grade amoxicillan and 
clavamox in an unflavored powder and hide that in whatever she likes to eat 
too. 

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I've heard of this stuff, but 
I'm under orders not to upset Missy so she won't have a heart attack, so I get 
all her stuff professionally compounded - I don't even try to pill her, because 
she does get upset.  I suppose I could take the fish mox in to be compounded, 
but I don't know if they'd do it. 
   
  You can buy the liquid stuff online, apparently.

 
  On 2/20/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:   Never tried the fish 
Erythromycin but the fish mox is great.  I usually buy from 
www.revivalanimal.com.  I think it's around $25 for 100 500-mg capsules.  Works 
great.  The main difference is that the powder in the capsules is coarser and 
doesn't dissolve as easily as human grade.   

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second the Fish Mox (and 
the fish Erythromycin), I use it here too, for myself and my son as well (I 
crush it and dilute with water or broth to use for the cats). 
  
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12101N=2004+113021
  
  
Phaewryn
   






-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 





-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! 

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 


Re: OT- Otomax without a prescription

2007-02-21 Thread Kelley Saveika

OK.  What about babies that are too small to eat solid food?  I get a lot of
that.

Last year I had 3 litters who were on between .02 and .04 of the liquid
amoxi a day, depending on weight.




On 2/21/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It's pretty much the same as amoxi or clavamox, so whatever your vet has
been prescribing.  And the capules are 500 mg each so I just divvy it up.  I
usuay go for 125 mg daily but it depends on what the problem is and how
severe.  There is an acceptable dosage range, not just one specific dose
engraved in stone.

*Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

How do you know how much to dose with the fish mox?

On 2/21/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I hide fish mox in meat baby food or tuna.   Also, you can get human
 grade amoxicillan and clavamox in an unflavored powder and hide that in
 whatever she likes to eat too.

 *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 I've heard of this stuff, but I'm under orders not to upset Missy so she
 won't have a heart attack, so I get all her stuff professionally compounded
 - I don't even try to pill her, because she does get upset.  I suppose I
 could take the fish mox in to be compounded, but I don't know if they'd do
 it.

 You can buy the liquid stuff online, apparently.


 On 2/20/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Never tried the fish Erythromycin but the fish mox is great.  I
  usually buy from www.revivalanimal.com.  I think it's around $25 for
  100 500-mg capsules.  Works great.  The main difference is that the powder
  in the capsules is coarser and doesn't dissolve as easily as human grade.
 
  *[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  I second the Fish Mox (and the fish Erythromycin), I use it here too,
  for myself and my son as well (I crush it and dilute with water or broth to
  use for the cats).
  
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12101N=2004+113021
 
 
  Phaewryn
 
 
 
 


 --
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

 http://www.rescuties.org

 Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

 http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20





--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20


Re: OT- www.1drugstore-online.com

2007-02-21 Thread Linda Johnson
Excellent!  I'm glad there's a reliable online
pharmacy - I'll give them a try.  Thanks for the
information.


--- Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been ordering from them regularly for 12-18
 months and they are wonderful.  Great customer
 service (via email), high quality meds, even the
 generics.  They are shipping from Thailand and don't
 offer express to the US but my order arrives in
 California within 10 days or so of the order date. 
 Never a problem with the charges on my credit card. 
 I was originally told about them by another rescue
 person who had been using them for awhile herself.

   I recently had a problem with an order of
 zithromax.  Customs seized it and I received a
 notice from the FDA telling me they would hold it
 for 30 days in case I wanted to tell them why I
 should have it.  (FDA cited a code section claiming
 it was an unknown or unapproved med in the US. 
 Rather than explain that it was a common antibiotic
 and 12 capsules was well within the usual pass given
 for a 3 month supply for personal use, I decided to
 let them hold onto it.  Why argue about 12 capsules
 of zith and have every foreign shipment scrutinized
 in the future?)  So, I emailed customer service at
 1drugstore-online and told them what happened. 
 Emailed them in the afternoon from my office, had a
 very nice apologetic reply by the time I got home
 from work.  They offered to reship and asked me to
 scan or fax (to a US fax number) the FDA notice. 
 And so I did.  And my replacement order arrived
 yesterday.  They were so responsive, apologetic, and
 quick to rectify the situation. 
  Really, some of the best customer service I have
 seen online.



   
 
 Linda Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi guys,
 How reliable is www.1drugstore-online.com? Does your
 order arrive in a timely manner?
 Linda
 
  I've used the clamamox, zithromax and baytril, but
  not the amoxi. (I keep fish mox on the shelf --
  amoxicillin sold in the US without a perscription
  for aquatic use -- so I have no incentive to order
  amoxi from overseas.)
 
 

http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?name=otomaxbysearch=ok
  
 
 
 
 


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Re: OT - Quality of life

2007-02-21 Thread Marylyn
Have you tried Feliway?  If not, try it and some version of concentrated catnip 
spray.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelley Saveika 
  To: felvtalk 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:33 AM
  Subject: OT - Quality of life


  Hi guys,

  Some of you remember I took in an aggressive owner surrendered cat named 
Caroline.  Well, Caroline is fine with me now.  She loves me, rubs up against 
me, wants pets, etc.  Unfortunately, she is still cat aggressive. 

  She's been living in my bathroom since November.  I don't think this is a 
great life for a kitty, but I can't risk my other kitties well being.  I'm 
thinking of medicating her and giving that a try.  I've tried short periods of 
time one on one with another kitty in the bathroom and not only is she 
aggressive to the other kitty, she backslides and starts trying to bite me.  I 
am starting to think it would be better for her to be on meds than for her to 
be stuck in the bathroom for any longer. 

  What do yall think?  

  Thanks,

  Kelley
  -- 
  Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

  http://www.rescuties.org

  Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

  http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 

Re: I'm back

2007-02-21 Thread Nina
Hi Michelle, welcome back.  What did the vet say besides agreeing to the 
fio?  Swollen lymph nodes sound like some sort of infection to me.  What 
does he suspect?  Is the gingivitis nasty enough to have caused an 
infection?  Did he put Minstral on abx?  I'm glad you've got a vet that 
is willing to work with you and recognizes that you are willing to do 
your homework in finding solutions.


Minstral will forgive you.  Just keep telling her it's out of love that 
you do the things you do and don't let yourself feel guilty about it.

Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hello All
 
Sorry I've been a silent member for a while due to work etc... but I 
am unfortunately back now and will be for a while.
 
Just had Minstral to the vets cos I noticed a very subtle behaviour 
change - she became more affectionate to me and scratched her jaw a 
bit more than usual - I suspected gingivitis again but Minstral being 
Minstral is not a handleable cat at the best of times. However at vets 
we found only very mild Gingivitis but her lymph nodes are a bit 
swollen. I think we are going to start interferon omega now whilst we 
have caught the changes early. I have chosen not to do bloods at the 
moment due to not wanted to stress her out to much.
 
PS - she isn't being affectionate now after I grabbed her from behind 
and bundled her into the cat carrier to go off to the vets bless her.
 
I hadn't seen this vet in consultation before but knew he would be 
good from a brief encounter with him when we were going through 
the emergencies with Bramble in the past. I instantly went in with a 
somewhat knowledgeable attitude and told him I had gone to him as I 
felt he would work with me to do everything possible for Minstral to 
help her have a quality of life and not write her off. After dropping 
in some technical terms he said I was well informed so I think he will 
work with me. Unfortunately our last vet has left so had to select 
another one so have to picky and find the right one.
 
Any tips very welcome?
 
Michelle, Buddy, Minstral  Angel Bramble





Re: OT - Quality of life

2007-02-21 Thread Nina
I have a kitty like this too, (Sophie Matilda), you might remember me 
telling you about her when you first wrote to the list about Caroline.  
I think it might be better to start with letting Caroline visit with a 
friendly, slow moving kitty in the other kitty's territory.  The 
bathroom belongs to Caroline and she's defending it.  It's also too 
small a space for her to feel comfortable with the flight instead of 
fight response to an interloper.  I'd clear an adjacent bedroom of 
everyone else besides you and Caroline.  Let her sniff around and get 
used to it a little bit, no more than an hour at a time.  Then when you 
feel she is somewhat comfortable in there, introduce the cat that you 
think she could make friends with.  What I did to start, was let Matilda 
know I was brining in the other cat.  I held the other cat, (Matilda's 
friend is named Timmy), on my lap and just let Matilda get used to being 
in the same space with Tim wo them actually interacting.  I've thought 
about pharmaceuticals more than once as a solution to help Matilda get 
over her fear aggression.  So far, I've decided to take it slow and work 
with her with behavior modification instead.  It is a SLOW process, I've 
had Matilda for about 7 mos now, but she is much improved.  She now can 
be in the bathroom, small back hall and back bedroom unsupervised with 
Timmy and another friendly cat, Kimba.  Matilda used to charge and 
attack anyone with four legs, now, if she has enough room, she'll sit 
back and watch instead.  It's one step forward and two steps back, but 
she is making progress.  Do you have a screen door on the bathroom?  Is 
there any other cat that she seems less threatened by that might work 
with her?


You may think I'm crazy, (what else is new?), but I had long talks with 
Tim and Matilda before I began introducing them.  I asked Tim's 
permission before putting him in contact with Matilda and he's been just 
wonderful with her.  I understand completely about the quality of life 
issue.  I used to struggle with Matilda's isolation and the fact that 
she was taking up such valuable real estate that the other cats were 
denied.  I changed my mind set when I realized that the alternative was 
her injuring my other animals, being drugged all the time, or the worse 
case scenario, Matilda being pts.


Let us know how it goes and what you do,
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:

Hi guys,
 
Some of you remember I took in an aggressive owner surrendered cat 
named Caroline.  Well, Caroline is fine with me now.  She loves me, 
rubs up against me, wants pets, etc.  Unfortunately, she is still cat 
aggressive.


She's been living in my bathroom since November.  I don't think this 
is a great life for a kitty, but I can't risk my other kitties well 
being.  I'm thinking of medicating her and giving that a try.  I've 
tried short periods of time one on one with another kitty in the 
bathroom and not only is she aggressive to the other kitty, she 
backslides and starts trying to bite me.  I am starting to think it 
would be better for her to be on meds than for her to be stuck in the 
bathroom for any longer.
 
What do yall think? 
Thanks,
 
Kelley

--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20





Re: OT - Quality of life

2007-02-21 Thread Nina
I've been putting rr, quaking grass, oregon grape, flower essences, 
(among others in variation) in their water dishes for months now.  I 
can't say for sure if it's helping, but there has been progress made, so 
who knows?  I was using a knock off feliway spray too, but it's 
expensive and I keep running out of the stuff.

Nina

Marylyn wrote:
Have you tried Feliway?  If not, try it and some version of 
concentrated catnip spray. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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- Original Message -
*From:* Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Sent:* Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:33 AM
*Subject:* OT - Quality of life

Hi guys,
 
Some of you remember I took in an aggressive owner surrendered cat

named Caroline.  Well, Caroline is fine with me now.  She loves
me, rubs up against me, wants pets, etc.  Unfortunately, she is
still cat aggressive.

She's been living in my bathroom since November.  I don't think
this is a great life for a kitty, but I can't risk my other
kitties well being.  I'm thinking of medicating her and giving
that a try.  I've tried short periods of time one on one with
another kitty in the bathroom and not only is she aggressive to
the other kitty, she backslides and starts trying to bite me.  I
am starting to think it would be better for her to be on meds than
for her to be stuck in the bathroom for any longer.
 
What do yall think? 
Thanks,
 
Kelley
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RE: another addition to the CLS list: bob--for MC

2007-02-21 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Dear MaryChristine
I'm very behind with my email; wanted to say how sorry I am that you
didn't have more time with Bob. I am SO glad that he found, and spent
his last days with, *you*, though. And what a precious time you
describe--those 3 hours spent cuddling and purring with you. Makes me
quite tearful. I'm glad he stayed long enough with you to know what it
was to be loved. 
hugs, Kerry


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Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:53 PM
To: FeLVTalk
Subject: another addition to the CLS list: bob


i'd like to add bob-the-persian to the list.

bob was a five-year-old cream persian who came into rescue about two
weeks ago from a bad divorce situation, along with five others. other
than being terribly matted, nothing more was thought to be wrong with
him.

while getting them vetted to go from MI to GA, however, it was
discovered that bob had an inoperable congenital
peritoneal-pericardial hernia. i was asked to do hospice care for the
little darling. another list member, beth, lives very near the vet
hospital that was caring for him, and she and her husband gary kindly
brought him to me a week ago yesterday.

poor dear was shaven down, and those who've seen nekkid persians know
just how pathetic they can look. he had minor intermittent breathing
difficulties, but nothing seemingly too severe. he wouldn't eat at
first, and i was panicking--then i found out he would only eat dad's
cat food and the vet had neglected to put that on his records! (his
sibkits in GA hadn't been eating, either) he was wandering all
over the house, getting up onto the furniture, seeming to start to
settle in after what had to have been a very confusing couple of
weeks. on friday, he finally let me take pictures of him, and he spent
about three hours up on the bed with me, snuggling and cuddling and
purring.

last evening i found him, curled up peacefully under my bed, having
journeyed on to the bridge. didn't look as if he'd suffered, just
maybe that his little body had given out.

only a week--i'd so hoped to have more time with him; i'd wanted him
to have to chance to grow his beautiful coat out once more so he
didn't have to be afraid to look in a mirror; i'd wanted him to tell
me some of his secrets and his dreams. i just hope he knew that he was
safe and welcome and loved here--i think that he did.

fare thee well, sweet bob. join the rest of the tenhousecats bridge
clowder, and fly free.

MC

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Minstral (Nina)

2007-02-21 Thread lomaxturtle
Hi Nina
 
Minstral hasn't gone on antibiotics at the moment. I will watch her closely for 
a couple of days and try to look at her mouth again after that period - if she 
has worsened then I will take her to the boss vet cos he is great - but he only 
works 2 days a week. She is a very difficult cat to medicate anyway - although 
very affectionate with me she is semi ferral and is also very defensive and 
doesn't take kindly to being restrained by any means bless her - unless of 
course she is on the vets table then she is good as gold and makes me look a 
fool.
 
As was the case with Bramble - Minstral and Buddy both carry calicivirus but 
are at the moment able to fight it. I wondered if she was fighting a 
reoccurence of calici as she sounds a little nasaly at times but hasn't got the 
runny nose or sneezes. Calici can also explain gingivitis - Her little ears 
were getting a bit hot at times so I suspect she was getting a temperature and 
looked a bit confused at times but it wasn't severe. I think that if she is 
fighting off calici herself at the moment the antibiotics are of limited use 
and I don't want to build her tolerance to them unneccesarily. FIO is the  gold 
standard drug for calici anyway in the uk. 
 
Another thing I wondered about was that I changed their biscuits and they were 
a little harder (they have some biscuits and some wet food) but that was a 
couple months ago - the last couple of days I changed back to slightly softer 
dry food and I think this has helped her - she loves her biscuits. I'm going to 
put cod liver oil and multi vits in her food and see if she will eat it. She is 
fussy like most cats - if she smells anything medicine like in her food she 
won't eat it. At least she is a fat cat and loves eating which is one less 
worry at the moment. She is eating drinking and toileting fine - in fact she 
still looks at me and waits for me to give her clean litter before she gets in 
to soil it again LOL.
 
The behavioural changes were so subtle that most people would have not noticed 
but as you will all know you become so fined tuned to your furbabies that you 
sense it instantly. Was cute really it's as if she was coming to me to tell me 
she wasn't well. Then when we got home after she'd been to the vet today, and 
although she battles against being picked up and put in the carrier, she lifted 
her head up and butted my chin as she was saying thanks for listening mummy - 
was so sweet.
 
Don't know if this is any clearer Nina 
 
Thanks
 
Michelle, Minstral, Buddy  Angel Bramble


RE: Please add Ricky Rick to the CLS

2007-02-21 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Tad and Marie, I'm so sorry for your loss of Luvy and Ricky Rick. I'm
glad they both found their way to you albeit at different times, and got
to feel so loved and so very safe. 
What is your feral cat's name? It's so interesting and inspiring that
he/she senses what is happening and is maybe going to, as you say, take
over Ricky Rick's spot. 
Bless you for all you do. 
hugs, Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Please add Ricky Rick to the CLS


 On Fri Feb 9, 2007 Ricky Rick was helped to end his suffering
from lymphoma and FeLV...
Ricky was a big old black and white tux tom cat when he was
brought into the shelter... He tested pos but he was such a friendly
old fellow that they had to try and find him a home... He came to
live with me about 15 months ago and was very happy and quickly
became friends with the other cats... He had been stray for some time
and his coat was very shabby but with good food he soon became
such a handsome fellow... It wasn't long though before we noticed
his lymph nodes were swelling... He took his pred. and the progression
was very slow but then this last week he was peeing blood and not
swolling his food and it was time to let him go on
Rick had his own pillow right next to mine that he has slept on at night
for as long as I can remember and I miss not having him there... But
then
my feral cat that I have been taming for 2 1/2  years and must sense
that
this is a sad time has been much closer in the last few days and she may
be
the one to take over that spot
We will miss our friendly old Ricky Rick.
Tad and Marie
 
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RE: I'm back

2007-02-21 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Dear Michelle, I'm naturally sorry for the reason you're back, but it's
so good to hear from you-I often think about you and your furballs
and your parachute jump for the donkey sanctuary.  I'm glad you found a
vet you feel will do everything possible for Minstral. Sending your
little sweetie healing vibes. hugs, Kerry 
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To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: I'm back


  
Hello All
 
Sorry I've been a silent member for a while due to work etc... but I am
unfortunately back now and will be for a while. 
 
Just had Minstral to the vets cos I noticed a very subtle behaviour
change - she became more affectionate to me and scratched her jaw a bit
more than usual - I suspected gingivitis again but Minstral being
Minstral is not a handleable cat at the best of times. However at vets
we found only very mild Gingivitis but her lymph nodes are a bit
swollen. I think we are going to start interferon omega now whilst we
have caught the changes early. I have chosen not to do bloods at the
moment due to not wanted to stress her out to much.
 
PS - she isn't being affectionate now after I grabbed her from behind
and bundled her into the cat carrier to go off to the vets bless her.
 
I hadn't seen this vet in consultation before but knew he would be good
from a brief encounter with him when we were going through the
emergencies with Bramble in the past. I instantly went in with a
somewhat knowledgeable attitude and told him I had gone to him as I felt
he would work with me to do everything possible for Minstral to help her
have a quality of life and not write her off. After dropping in some
technical terms he said I was well informed so I think he will work with
me. Unfortunately our last vet has left so had to select another one so
have to picky and find the right one.
 
Any tips very welcome?
 
Michelle, Buddy, Minstral  Angel Bramble
 
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Quality of Life

2007-02-21 Thread lomaxturtle
I too have talked to my cats on more than one occassion to ask how they feel so 
I don't think your mad Nina. But I agree with letting them explore a little at 
a time and if you can put up a screen that they can see each other through 
before introducing them that sometimes can help as Nina said. They had that at 
the sanctuary - Unfortunately Blackie isn't alive now but he kept seeing the 
sanctuary cat behind the glass door in the office. Gradually the two cats 
started to try and play through the glass and when they let Blackie in both 
cats were happy together and Tom ventured out of the office for a stroll around 
too. 
 
Takes time but I think it's much better done behaviourally. They other thing 
that might help relax the cat in anxiety provoking situations is using the plug 
in pherimones. It maybe that you let the kittie out the bathroom for 5 mins and 
gradually progress the time. Patience and perserverence is often the only 
answer to modifying anxiety related behaviour. It's like humans - exposure is 
done gradually and built upon.
 
When I first brought my cats home from the sanctuary Buddy was terrified of the 
television - she would not come out at all if the tv was on - but with gradual 
exposure she started to venture out and as she learned it was not a threat she 
improved and it took time but now she doesn't care at all.
 
Hope you have success
 
Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy  Angel Bramble


Re: I'm back

2007-02-21 Thread Leslie Lawther

*Okay, I guess I haven't been around long enough... but do tell about the
parachute jump for the donkey sanctuary!*
*Leslie =^..^=*


On 2/21/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Dear Michelle, I'm naturally sorry for the reason you're back, but it's
so good to hear from you-I often think about you and your furballs and
your parachute jump for the donkey sanctuary.  I'm glad you found a vet you
feel will do everything possible for Minstral. Sending your little sweetie
healing vibes. hugs, Kerry
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:00 AM
*To:* Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* I'm back

  Hello All

Sorry I've been a silent member for a while due to work etc... but I am
unfortunately back now and will be for a while.

Just had Minstral to the vets cos I noticed a very subtle behaviour change
- she became more affectionate to me and scratched her jaw a bit more than
usual - I suspected gingivitis again but Minstral being Minstral is not a
handleable cat at the best of times. However at vets we found only very mild
Gingivitis but her lymph nodes are a bit swollen. I think we are going to
start interferon omega now whilst we have caught the changes early. I have
chosen not to do bloods at the moment due to not wanted to stress her out to
much.

PS - she isn't being affectionate now after I grabbed her from behind and
bundled her into the cat carrier to go off to the vets bless her.

I hadn't seen this vet in consultation before but knew he would be good
from a brief encounter with him when we were going through the emergencies
with Bramble in the past. I instantly went in with a somewhat knowledgeable
attitude and told him I had gone to him as I felt he would work with me to
do everything possible for Minstral to help her have a quality of life and
not write her off. After dropping in some technical terms he said I was well
informed so I think he will work with me. Unfortunately our last vet has
left so had to select another one so have to picky and find the right one.

Any tips very welcome?

Michelle, Buddy, Minstral  Angel Bramble

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To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden
patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.  That
only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success.
---Ralph Waldo Emerson


To Sherry Re: Twinkie

2007-02-21 Thread wendy
Hey Sherry,

I am sorry to hear that you guys lost little Twinkie. 
I visited the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary this past
weekend and I just wanted to tell you how much I think
of you that you donate your time to an animal
sanctuary.  I think it's wonderful that you do that.

:)
Wendy


--- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone,I would like to ask if Twinkie one of
 our shy torties from the sanctuary can be added to
 the CLS.We lost her today due to ulcers in her
 mouth.I actually worked with her for awhile one on
 one and she purred for me,it was the sweetest
 sound.We have not lost one of our sancuary furkids
 since Dec.I sure hope this isn't a start of bad
 luck.Please add all our fur kids to your prayers.My
 condolences to all the losses we have had here on
 the felvtalk.
   Thank you all so much.
   Sherry
 
  
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Re: OT - Quality of life

2007-02-21 Thread Marylyn
Try the concentrated catnip.  It isn't very expensive and lasts a really 
long time.  Also try animal communicators.  I understand there is a website 
with ones who volunteer to do it.  Some people who are very good at this 
don't want to go thru all the hassle of being professional and just want 
to practice/help.  A professional AC helped me tremendously with the Royal 
Princess Kitty Katt when she was forced to come live with me and both pros 
and volunteers have helped with other cats.  Many times the volunteers 
were better able to tune into the cat or dog than the pros.





If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Quality of life


I've been putting rr, quaking grass, oregon grape, flower essences, (among 
others in variation) in their water dishes for months now.  I can't say 
for sure if it's helping, but there has been progress made, so who knows? 
I was using a knock off feliway spray too, but it's expensive and I keep 
running out of the stuff.

Nina

Marylyn wrote:
Have you tried Feliway?  If not, try it and some version of concentrated 
catnip spray. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis


- Original Message -
*From:* Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:33 AM
*Subject:* OT - Quality of life

Hi guys,
 Some of you remember I took in an aggressive owner surrendered cat
named Caroline.  Well, Caroline is fine with me now.  She loves
me, rubs up against me, wants pets, etc.  Unfortunately, she is
still cat aggressive.

She's been living in my bathroom since November.  I don't think
this is a great life for a kitty, but I can't risk my other
kitties well being.  I'm thinking of medicating her and giving
that a try.  I've tried short periods of time one on one with
another kitty in the bathroom and not only is she aggressive to
the other kitty, she backslides and starts trying to bite me.  I
am starting to think it would be better for her to be on meds than
for her to be stuck in the bathroom for any longer.
 What do yall think? Thanks,
 Kelley
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