Re: [Felvtalk] New member here
Jennifer, I am glad that you are taking such good care of Ash. I don't get the time to post to the list often, but am willing to take telephone calls for advise. I am a 1974 Ohio State University grad in Animal Science and have my Masters work in Animal Nutrition and Physiology...with over 30 plus years experience and additional study as an Animal Scientist (Physiology/Pathology) and Nutritionist. I have worked with many FeLV cats. I now work mainly holistically, but also advise the use of traditional veterinary medications along with the natural. I can work with your veterinarian if you so wish. If you, or your veterinarian, would like to give me a call, I can answer any questions you may have and hopefully help you on your way to better health with your kitty. Let me know the best time to reach you by phone if I am not available when you call. There is no charge for my services or suggestions to anyone on this list.My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] My other contact info is following. Looking forward to speaking with you. (This invitation also goes out to anyone one this list that is in need of help.) P.S. below, please read. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you would put 'Old Tom' in your prayers, it would be appreciated. He was 25 years old 'I knew this for sure as I had him for 20 years', and had judged him at at least 10 by his teeth when I castrated him and did his teeth. He died in the lightning storm we had here last week. He was FeLV positive for the last 10 yrs, and had endured other severe problems, but was in great health at his 'untimely' demise. You all will think I'm crazy for being upset at losing him this way, but it was storming too severely to go out in the lightning storm and hail to get him in...I had just let him outside 15 minutes before the storm suddenly rolled in. There were over 100mph straight line winds, many huge trees down, power lines, structural damage, etc. I miss him terribly. I have 25 cats I am taking care of, but 'The Old Man' was special. He was a tough, proud old guy. There are a lot of good stories about him. (I started to tell a few, but decided to leave it at that). I just miss him. The neighbor lost 2 horses in the storm as wellall 70 head of my horses came through OK. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Lynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] New member here Hi everyone. My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey. My one year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday. I also have two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a year (I've had him since birth). He's blind in one eye and has developmental problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a very happy, content, sweet and playful boy! Very talkative as well, especially in the morning! He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that you need to really look to see. He eats like a pig and right now, seems healthy. He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated. My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no record of it at my vet's office, though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago. I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best for you and your kitties! PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here? - Jennifer (and Ash too!) -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member here
On Jul 30, 2008, at 6:26 AM, Marylyn wrote: It doesn't matter how old they are when they leave.it breaks your heart. However, he left loved and cared for. The comfort in that. And he added so much to your life. On Jul 30, 2008, at 2:20 AM, Karen Griffith wrote: Jennifer, I am glad that you are taking such good care of Ash. I don't get the time to post to the list often, but am willing to take telephone calls for advise. I am a 1974 Ohio State University grad in Animal Science and have my Masters work in Animal Nutrition and Physiology...with over 30 plus years experience and additional study as an Animal Scientist (Physiology/Pathology) and Nutritionist. I have worked with many FeLV cats. I now work mainly holistically, but also advise the use of traditional veterinary medications along with the natural. I can work with your veterinarian if you so wish. If you, or your veterinarian, would like to give me a call, I can answer any questions you may have and hopefully help you on your way to better health with your kitty. Let me know the best time to reach you by phone if I am not available when you call. There is no charge for my services or suggestions to anyone on this list.My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . My other contact info is following. Looking forward to speaking with you. (This invitation also goes out to anyone one this list that is in need of help.) P.S. below, please read. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you would put 'Old Tom' in your prayers, it would be appreciated. He was 25 years old 'I knew this for sure as I had him for 20 years', and had judged him at at least10 by his teeth when I castrated him and did his teeth. He died in the lightning storm we had here last week. He was FeLV positive for the last 10 yrs, and had endured other severe problems, but was in great health at his 'untimely' demise. You all will think I'm crazy for being upset at losing him this way, but it was storming too severely to go out in the lightning storm and hail to get him in...I had just let him outside 15 minutes before the storm suddenly rolled in. There were over 100mph straight line winds, many huge trees down, power lines, structural damage, etc. I miss him terribly. I have 25 cats I am taking care of, but 'The Old Man' was special. He was a tough, proud old guy. There are a lot of good stories about him. (I started to tell a few, but decided to leave it at that). I just miss him. The neighbor lost 2 horses in the storm as wellall 70 head of my horses came through OK. - ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] The difference in vets
Hello everyone - Last Friday when Buzz sick I had to settle for one of the vets who works in the practice to check him because the husband and wife team I normaly go to were on vacation. She pretty much said Buzz was anemic and there was no hope for him. She gave him a cortizone shot and sent him home saying to give a call when it was time to euthanize. Thanks to the advise of some of the people on this list I called back and demanded Dolycycline. Yesterday Dr. Tom was back. I had Buzzy re-tested in the morning (his level had gone from 8 to 11) and had a conference with Dr. Tom at 5:00 yesterday. He spent an hour talking with me about all the possible options and explaining how each one worked and what the benefits and drawbacks were of each plan. He was very happy that Buzz was on Doxycycline. When I left the office he had promised to look into some of the options and get back to me. Two hours later I received a call from him. He had spent all that time researching some of the options we had talked about, including prednisone, and Epogen, B vitamins and Niacinamide. Now Buzz is still on the Doxycycline and has started with prednisone. Dr. Tom is going to order the Epogen and find out about the availability of Niacinamide. It is so great to have such a wonderful person and doctor available who cares so much and takes the time to explain things. The only thing I can't figure out is why he keeps that other vet in his practice. This morning Buzz was still pretty tired but he ate a lot of the tuna I mixed up for him with the multi-vitamin in it. My mother-in-law lives with us and she will continue to offer him food every couple of hours until I get home from work to spoil him. Every evening we have been going out on the deck where I cuddle him and give him Reiki treatments. Even if things don't work out, now I know that at least he is getting a fighting chance. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] info please
Hi, can someone tell me how to contact the moderator of the group? Thanks Lynne___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] info please
I hope this is correct...I had it saved James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support)http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page)Debbie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:06:45 -0400Subject: [Felvtalk] info please Hi, can someone tell me how to contact the moderator of the group? Thanks Lynne _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] info please
Thank you Debbie. It worked. Lynne - Original Message - From: Debbie Harrison To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] info please I hope this is correct...I had it saved James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) Debbie -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:06:45 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] info please Hi, can someone tell me how to contact the moderator of the group? Thanks Lynne -- Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more! __ NOD32 3301 (20080727) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3301 (20080727) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The difference in vets
HI Sue I am so happy to hear Buzz is getting a fighting chance. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member here
Karen, Old Tom is definitely in our prayers. It sounds like he had a wonderful life with you for these last 20 yrs. Glad all your other critters made it through the storm OK. Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's Babies If you would put 'Old Tom' in your prayers, it would be appreciated. He was 25 years old 'I knew this for sure as I had him for 20 years', and had judged him at at least 10 by his teeth when I castrated him and did his teeth. He died in the lightning storm we had here last week. He was FeLV positive for the last 10 yrs, and had endured other severe problems, but was in great health at his 'untimely' demise. You all will think I'm crazy for being upset at losing him this way, but it was storming too severely to go out in the lightning storm and hail to get him in...I had just let him outside 15 minutes before the storm suddenly rolled in. There were over 100mph straight line winds, many huge trees down, power lines, structural damage, etc. I miss him terribly. I have 25 cats I am taking care of, but 'The Old Man' was special. He was a tough, proud old guy. There are a lot of good stories about him. (I started to tell a few, but decided to leave it at that). I just miss him. The neighbor lost 2 horses in the storm as wellall 70 head of my horses came through OK. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Karen I am so sorry to hear of your precious Tom leaving this world.It is a tribute to you that he lived such a long life. I know you will miss him Hugs Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The difference in vets
Sue, I am so glad you had a good meeting with Dr. Tom. Now you have an idea what your options are. You might want to consider adding some folic acid to the vitamins you are giving Buzz. My positives get 200 mcg 2x/day as a precaution since their HCT was low normal on their last blood work. You can check with several local pharmacies to compare costs on the Epogen. Folks on the Anemia board have found a wide range of prices. Typically epogen shots are given 3x/wk initially and then gradually adjusted to once every 7 to 10 days as his HCT gets up to the normal range. You do have to have his blood pressure checked regularly as epogen can cause an increase in BP. Hugs to Buzz Sharyl --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] The difference in vets To: FeLV Talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 7:59 AM Hello everyone - Last Friday when Buzz sick I had to settle for one of the vets who works in the practice to check him because the husband and wife team I normaly go to were on vacation. She pretty much said Buzz was anemic and there was no hope for him. She gave him a cortizone shot and sent him home saying to give a call when it was time to euthanize. Thanks to the advise of some of the people on this list I called back and demanded Dolycycline. Yesterday Dr. Tom was back. I had Buzzy re-tested in the morning (his level had gone from 8 to 11) and had a conference with Dr. Tom at 5:00 yesterday. He spent an hour talking with me about all the possible options and explaining how each one worked and what the benefits and drawbacks were of each plan. He was very happy that Buzz was on Doxycycline. When I left the office he had promised to look into some of the options and get back to me. Two hours later I received a call from him. He had spent all that time researching some of the options we had talked about, including prednisone, and Epogen, B vitamins and Niacinamide. Now Buzz is still on the Doxycycline and has started with prednisone. Dr. Tom is going to order the Epogen and find out about the availability of Niacinamide. It is so great to have such a wonderful person and doctor available who cares so much and takes the time to explain things. The only thing I can't figure out is why he keeps that other vet in his practice. This morning Buzz was still pretty tired but he ate a lot of the tuna I mixed up for him with the multi-vitamin in it. My mother-in-law lives with us and she will continue to offer him food every couple of hours until I get home from work to spoil him. Every evening we have been going out on the deck where I cuddle him and give him Reiki treatments. Even if things don't work out, now I know that at least he is getting a fighting chance. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member here
That's such a touching story...brought tears to my eyes. What is your new kitty's name? Hopefully she's with you for a very long time :) Jennifer ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member here To: Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 5:31 AM On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Marylyn wrote: Dixie came to me as a grown throw away who had been on her own for a long time. She found her way to my Mom's where she hung out with the ferals who came for food, water and shelter. For three years and 12 days she had everything a little cat could want. She became the owner of a farm in rural Ky with a large sunroom, window sills, deer, turkey and windows everywhere; Christmas trees that stayed up for months just because she liked to sleep under them; a large bed with pillows and dolls...everything a little cat could want, even things she didn't know about when she came into my life. She had the best regular and holist medical care available from the day I found out that she was FeLV+ and was so wonderfully healthy that I believed she had beaten it. She remained healthy until a couple of days before she left this world. When she left she was beside me, where she was always the safest, and in a Jeep that had taken her on many great adventures (she loved to travel between the farm and a home in Louisville).. I have no regrets at all about having this wonderful little girl in my life. She taught me so much. Now, a month after she left, she has sent me a tiny kitten from the same pine thicket she came from. Apparently she thought this little one, who was alone just as she had been, should have everything too. There are no certainities in life. It sounds like you have a good grasp on the situation. This group has people knowledgeable in supplements that can help strengthen all your cats. Please listen to them and your heart. On Jul 29, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Jennifer Lynn wrote: Thank you for responding. I am going to concentrate on keeping Ash (and my other kitties) as healthy as possible. I've been feeding them better food for months now...Eukenuba Naturals. They really like it and it helps with their urine and feces (they don't smell as much!). I keep their litter box clean at all times and they always have fresh, cold water. I am very observant of them and I try to give them all the love possible. I am just going to deal with this as it comes and treat Ash like a normal cat (like I've been doing his whole life) and keep on giving him all the love I can :) I am sorry to hear about your Dixie :( She's in kitty heaven now and nothing can hurt her :) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Pictures of our kitties
Is there a website where we can post pictures of cats? It would be nice to share pics of the cats we talk about. Jennifer ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pictures of our kitties
Jennifer - I belong to an on-line chat where everyone posts their cat pictures callet the cat forum. It is fun to see pictures of the cats we are talking about. Sue Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Is there a website where we can post pictures of cats? It would be nice to share pics of the cats we talk about. Jennifer ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member here
She doesn't have a name yet. The right one will come. However, she got a new brother this morning, Another little one came out of the pine thicket a few days ago. He was extremely weak two days ago. I started feeding him chicken breast Monday and Tuesday. That livened him up a little. I put this little one in her carrier on the patio. He came to investigate. I suspect the conversation revolved around food, toys, food, dry sleeping quarters, food, kind words, foodHe was not skittish at all and came within about 3 inches of getting in the carrier by himself. He got close enough that I could safely get him in a carrier and haul him to the vets'. They may be litter mates. They are both too young to test for FeLV but, to be honest, even if they test + (and I am sure they won't) they will have EVERYYTHHHINGGG all their days. I just have to adjust to having kittens. I have never raised any.I always found them homes and kept older cats. :))) At the first opportunity both will see a holistic vet, Dr. Betty Boswelll, in Louisville for a general checkup. I am going to start both on various supplements, especially colostrum, just to aid in their development. They, like all the critters who have blessed my life, have had a rough start. Again, please listen to the people on this list and take what seems right for you and yours. Some believe in holistic/alternative care, some believe in conventional care, some, like me, believe in a combination. Some believe in communicators, others don't. It is a good variety and the range of experiences is impressive. Pick your path but do not be afraid to veer from it. Just make your decisions with both your heart and your head. It worked with the Royal Princess Kitty Katt and it worked with Dixie Louise. It will work with these two and it will work for you. On Jul 30, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Jennifer wrote: That's such a touching story...brought tears to my eyes. What is your new kitty's name? Hopefully she's with you for a very long time :) Jennifer ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member here To: Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 5:31 AM On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Marylyn wrote: Dixie came to me as a grown throw away who had been on her own for a long time. She found her way to my Mom's where she hung out with the ferals who came for food, water and shelter. For three years and 12 days she had everything a little cat could want. She became the owner of a farm in rural Ky with a large sunroom, window sills, deer, turkey and windows everywhere; Christmas trees that stayed up for months just because she liked to sleep under them; a large bed with pillows and dolls...everything a little cat could want, even things she didn't know about when she came into my life. She had the best regular and holist medical care available from the day I found out that she was FeLV+ and was so wonderfully healthy that I believed she had beaten it. She remained healthy until a couple of days before she left this world. When she left she was beside me, where she was always the safest, and in a Jeep that had taken her on many great adventures (she loved to travel between the farm and a home in Louisville). I have no regrets at all about having this wonderful little girl in my life. She taught me so much. Now, a month after she left, she has sent me a tiny kitten from the same pine thicket she came from. Apparently she thought this little one, who was alone just as she had been, should have everything too. There are no certainities in life. It sounds like you have a good grasp on the situation. This group has people knowledgeable in supplements that can help strengthen all your cats. Please listen to them and your heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update
Marylyn I was so sorry to hear about your Dixie. When I first started on this list I remember you saying how special she was to you. It must have been so awful to lose her! Every time we lose one of our friends it's like they take a piece of us with them. I just lost my Tucker on May 31 and it still hurts so much. How did you fix the liver? Was it chicken liver or beef liver? I have Pet-Tabs vitamins that I have been mixing in with tuna and feeding him for the last couple of days. They say there is 5.0 mg of iron in each tablet. For the last couple of days it has seemed like Buzz has been just too tired to purr. On the deck tonight I was giving him a Reiki treatment and he started purring and kept it up for a while. He was rubbing his head against my hands like he was really enjoying it. I am going to take that as a good sign. Sue _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update Try some liver. I gave it to a wonderful dog who was anemic and it helped. There are some vitamins (Pet Tinic comes to mind) that has iron in it too. Just ideas but sometimes we have to try whatever gives us any hope. Dixie developed anemia very quickly. It was regenerative but the suddenness and severity took her from me before we could get it reversed. She had wonderful care from her regular vets and from her holistic vet. If you have access to a holistic/alternative vet, you might contact her to see what she recommends. Good luck to you both. Remember, though, that the important thing is the love you give and the time you spend with your little friend. On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Sue Frank Koren wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pictures of our kitties
Hi Jennifer, I have created a photo album for anyone who would like to post their kitties, positive or otherwise for all us to see. Just send me your photos in an email/s or if you know how to zip them you can do that. I will put them in your own album. Let me know what you would like your album name to be, try to keep it 5 words or less. The album is here: http://felvpositivefelines.org/album/ -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... BelindaSauro.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update
On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:28 PM, Marylyn wrote: It has been 10 years since I fixed it for Mai Mai. I got beef liver, lightly cooked it the grinded it up. I froze it in muffin pans so I fixed quite a bit at a time. I am vegetarian so I tried to do a week or so supply. They are saying that liquids are better for absorption than pills if you can find some pet tinic. That is what we tried on Dixie. If you can't get it easily, www.amazon.com has it very reasonably. Mai Mai was a wonderful dog so she ate a lot more than a little cat. She was also very terminal so she pretty well got what she wanted. One of the holistic vets here recommended raw beef or buffalo/bison, preferably organic. Apparently the bison are raised with fewer drugs. Just a thoughtyou might grind some liver raw for him. Literally to a soup. It couldn't do harm that I can see. I fed Dixie Primal Raw and believe in a raw diet. If he eats it fine if not then try to cook some. Remember that the antibiotics may make him tired but do not attribute it all to that. Keep a very close watch on his gums. Good luck. On Jul 30, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Sue Frank Koren wrote: Marylyn I was so sorry to hear about your Dixie. When I first started on this list I remember you saying how special she was to you. It must have been so awful to lose her! Every time we lose one of our friends it’s like they take a piece of us with them. I just lost my Tucker on May 31 and it still hurts so much. How did you fix the liver? Was it chicken liver or beef liver? I have Pet-Tabs vitamins that I have been mixing in with tuna and feeding him for the last couple of days. They say there is 5.0 mg of iron in each tablet. For the last couple of days it has seemed like Buzz has been just too tired to purr. On the deck tonight I was giving him a Reiki treatment and he started purring and kept it up for a while. He was rubbing his head against my hands like he was really enjoying it. I am going to take that as a good sign. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org