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hi, I just joined this group - not sure how active it is, but I was thrilled to find the site. I've been taking care of a feral turned 'could be housecat' for 6 months. Finally I was able to trap Whimsy and got him fixed, etc. He turned out to be FeLV positive, but seemingly asymptomatic. We did not do a blood work as initially this was to be a TNR. He is approx 1 1/2 yrs old. I have other inside kitties, so after hearing the FeLV news it wasn't an option to bring him in, but I also refused to put him down. He does still live outside, but won't stay in the numerous shelters I have put out for him any longer due to possums moving into them. He hangs out in the yard most of the time, despite the cold Midwest weather, and is fed twice a day. Since his fixing 4 wks ago, he's become even sweeter, almost babyish and refuses to get off my lap when it's time for me to go inside. He's a real climber, jumper, I often see him on roofs and in trees. He was popcorning all over the place at the vet's - though I got him to walk into the carrier, he had to be sedated once there after a near escape. my question: I have a sun room that I could put him in, if my partner agrees, but what risk is there to my other kitties, a few with their own issues (FIV, HCM, CRF, lung issues, allergies). I am not super concerned about FeLV being spread since they'd be separated(unlikely) but other things Whimsy might have - like Panleuk. I have never been able to get a stool sample from him. what other scary things are possible? how do I ensure he won't have them? I did confirm the ELISA with an IFA, and it was positive. This is 'stage 5 or 6', then? His health issues have been: bouts of no appetitite in Dec coinciding with a runny eye and wound on chest. I got him on antibiotics and it took a good 2 wks, but the eye cleared and his appetite was back. He's had some not eating issues lately, but seems more concerned I coax him and sit with him while he eats. Pepcid helps slightly. He's also been on an immune booster for a month. He used to be a dodgy feral and now tries to rub his face on mine - he's come such a long way. I would love to hear any opinions or stories. thanks, Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The sunroom would be a wonderful solution. Others on this list can address the health issues. If he is separated, I would not be concerned personally. I would have a baseline blood test done (your vet may have already done this.) A few years ago Dixie came into my life much the way Whimsy has come into yours. She was the most wonderful little girl. She remained with me for 3 years. I took her into be spayed and got the awful FeLV news. At that time she was scheduled to be a farm/porch cat. She was a garage cat for a while then became a house cat. I took her to a holistic vet who is totally wonderful and who helped Dixie live a full life until her last minutes. Bless you for taking care of Whimsy. Please bring him into the sunroom. You will enjoy it as much as he does but know that he may hide for a while. New smells, sounds and such. On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: hi, I just joined this group - not sure how active it is, but I was thrilled to find the site. I've been taking care of a feral turned 'could be housecat' for 6 months. Finally I was able to trap Whimsy and got him fixed, etc. He turned out to be FeLV positive, but seemingly asymptomatic. We did not do a blood work as initially this was to be a TNR. He is approx 1 1/2 yrs old. I have other inside kitties, so after hearing the FeLV news it wasn't an option to bring him in, but I also refused to put him down. He does still live outside, but won't stay in the numerous shelters I have put out for him any longer due to possums moving into them. He hangs out in the yard most of the time, despite the cold Midwest weather, and is fed twice a day. Since his fixing 4 wks ago, he's become even sweeter, almost babyish and refuses to get off my lap when it's time for me to go inside. He's a real climber, jumper, I often see him on roofs and in trees. He was popcorning all over the place at the vet's - though I got him to walk into the carrier, he had to be sedated once there after a near escape. my question: I have a sun room that I could put him in, if my partner agrees, but what risk is there to my other kitties, a few with their own issues (FIV, HCM, CRF, lung issues, allergies). I am not super concerned about FeLV being spread since they'd be separated(unlikely) but other things Whimsy might have - like Panleuk. I have never been able to get a stool sample from him. what other scary things are possible? how do I ensure he won't have them? I did confirm the ELISA with an IFA, and it was positive. This is 'stage 5 or 6', then? His health issues have been: bouts of no appetitite in Dec coinciding with a runny eye and wound on chest. I got him on antibiotics and it took a good 2 wks, but the eye cleared and his appetite was back. He's had some not eating issues lately, but seems more concerned I coax him and sit with him while he eats. Pepcid helps slightly. He's also been on an immune booster for a month. He used to be a dodgy feral and now tries to rub his face on mine - he's come such a long way. I would love to hear any opinions or stories. thanks, Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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when he was neutered, was he given his basic shots? if so, if you can get him the booster, that'll protect him against panleuk, and the other basics. depends on your vet--if kitty is really hard to handle or get into a carrier, some will give you the vaccine to administer at home. i'm fairly sure that cats don't carry panleuk--if he's been exposed, he'll get sick and get over it, or not, but he won't harbor it forever. anyone? if he were ever a housecat, which it almost sounds as if he might have been at some point, he could well have been vaccinated as a young one, so has immunity to panleuk already. (and there's no answer, yet, as to whether or not immunity, once established by the full series of baby shots, is lifelong or not. i ain't even gonna go there!) MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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hi Cougar Clan and Dixie-the-Angel-Cat, Oh, thank you for writing! it warmed my heart! I just came in from having 'dinner w/ Whimsy' and he looks at me so longingly now when I leave him. He's even letting me cut the horrible mattings out of his very long fur now. Dixie sounds like she was so dear and special, and I am sure the holistic approach aided her tremendously. I wish I had done blood work that day, but when they gave me the news and urged me to put him to sleep and not bother to do the IFA even, I forgot about the chipping, blood work etc. I did put to sleep a beautiful FeLV girl, Gypsy, last year because I was told it was the only thing to do and it appeared she had tumors in her mouth and ears. It never sat right with me, and I regretted it so deeply. I have found out that on this street/block, most ferals have had FeLV going back 20 yrs here. There aren't even colonies, but just random cats - I will see about 3 every year and TNR the ones I can. It seems like a very high rate. One bully male Sargeant lasted in the area nearly 3 yrs - very wild - I just saw him in Dec and he was suffering terribly, emaciated, coughing and staggering, but I could not trap him to help him and ease his suffering. I am sure he passed from FeLV. I did witness him attacking Whimsy, who is very passive, and I chased him off. I cringe to think Whimsy might suddenly disappear and I wouldn't be there to help him when it 'was time'. I hope I can get my guy to agree. paws crossed. Thank you for your input so very much. Shannon and Whimsy --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 4:01 PM The sunroom would be a wonderful solution. Others on this list can address the health issues. If he is separated, I would not be concerned personally. I would have a baseline blood test done (your vet may have already done this.) A few years ago Dixie came into my life much the way Whimsy has come into yours. She was the most wonderful little girl. She remained with me for 3 years. I took her into be spayed and got the awful FeLV news. At that time she was scheduled to be a farm/porch cat. She was a garage cat for a while then became a house cat. I took her to a holistic vet who is totally wonderful and who helped Dixie live a full life until her last minutes. Bless you for taking care of Whimsy. Please bring him into the sunroom. You will enjoy it as much as he does but know that he may hide for a while. New smells, sounds and such. On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: hi, I just joined this group - not sure how active it is, but I was thrilled to find the site. I've been taking care of a feral turned 'could be housecat' for 6 months. Finally I was able to trap Whimsy and got him fixed, etc. He turned out to be FeLV positive, but seemingly asymptomatic. We did not do a blood work as initially this was to be a TNR. He is approx 1 1/2 yrs old. I have other inside kitties, so after hearing the FeLV news it wasn't an option to bring him in, but I also refused to put him down. He does still live outside, but won't stay in the numerous shelters I have put out for him any longer due to possums moving into them. He hangs out in the yard most of the time, despite the cold Midwest weather, and is fed twice a day. Since his fixing 4 wks ago, he's become even sweeter, almost babyish and refuses to get off my lap when it's time for me to go inside. He's a real climber, jumper, I often see him on roofs and in trees. He was popcorning all over the place at the vet's - though I got him to walk into the carrier, he had to be sedated once there after a near escape. my question: I have a sun room that I could put him in, if my partner agrees, but what risk is there to my other kitties, a few with their own issues (FIV, HCM, CRF, lung issues, allergies). I am not super concerned about FeLV being spread since they'd be separated(unlikely) but other things Whimsy might have - like Panleuk. I have never been able to get a stool sample from him. what other scary things are possible? how do I ensure he won't have them? I did confirm the ELISA with an IFA, and it was positive. This is 'stage 5 or 6', then? His health issues have been: bouts of no appetitite in Dec coinciding with a runny eye and wound on chest. I got him on antibiotics and it took a good 2 wks, but the eye cleared and his appetite was back. He's had some not eating issues lately, but seems more concerned I coax him and sit with him while he eats. Pepcid helps slightly. He's also been on an immune booster for a month. He used to be a dodgy feral and now tries to rub his face on mine - he's come such a long way. I would love to hear any opinions or stories. thanks,
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hi Mary Christine, Yes, he was given his basic shots, but I wasn't sure quite how/where Panleuk was covered. Someone mentioned it to me as being something I could transfer via clothing to my other guys, so it got me wondering. He is completely difficult for the vets to handle, and would have to be sedated, but the whole thing is rather dramatic, as I'm sure you are familiar with. I've been working with him 2 hrs a day since August - initially through the window just talking while he ate, then observing from a far. There was just something about him :). thanks for your input, it's appreciated. Shannon --- On Wed, 2/24/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 5:36 PM when he was neutered, was he given his basic shots? if so, if you can get him the booster, that'll protect him against panleuk, and the other basics. depends on your vet--if kitty is really hard to handle or get into a carrier, some will give you the vaccine to administer at home. i'm fairly sure that cats don't carry panleuk--if he's been exposed, he'll get sick and get over it, or not, but he won't harbor it forever. anyone? if he were ever a housecat, which it almost sounds as if he might have been at some point, he could well have been vaccinated as a young one, so has immunity to panleuk already. (and there's no answer, yet, as to whether or not immunity, once established by the full series of baby shots, is lifelong or not. i ain't even gonna go there!) MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I was in Louisville with Dixie (I have a home there) and I had the luxury of timemy wonderful vets at Middletown Animal Clinic were choking when they phoned me with the news. They kept Dixie safe (I am very sure Dixie didn't feel safe) while I tried to work things out in my mind and for her here in the country. It wasn't ideal. She stayed in a garage for a while and, when she developed a URI, I slept in the garage with her. Time is important. When Dixie left this world she had EVERYTHING! A big bed in a house on a farm that was designed for cats (wide windowsills, lots of windows, a Person who really didn't care if she scratched the floors (pine so there was never a question of messing up the carpet) etc., travel to Louisville, a Christmas tree designed to her standards (I accept animal communicators and she got a 10 foot tall tree with thousands of lights and hundreds of ornaments and...needless to say lots of presents). All of this is to say, her life with me was too short. She was several years old when this happened and had been spayed although we never found a scar (I spent a LOT of money having bloodwork done---she kept telling the AC she had been spayed---she had). But she had everything I even thought she might possibly want. Hopefully that made up for the life she had before. A month after she left she sent me a kitten. Two weeks later she sent another one. Both are very healthy and wonderful boyseach twice Dixie's size. Again, all of this is to say, enjoy Whimsy and don't worry too much. Throw away your calendars (this applies to your other cats too) and enjoy your time together. I had another cat, Kitty, who had terminal cancer. I let her and Dixie together. Neither was going to shorten the life of the other. My wonderful vets told me with Kitty and with Dixie to make my decisions (and they were brutally honest and applied the standards they wanted applied to their lives as I did) and not look back. Peace to all of your friends and to you. I know this is rambling. Dixie left two years ago and I still miss my wonderful girl. The two boys she sent me stay close and were not eaten by the hawk family On Feb 24, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: hi Cougar Clan and Dixie-the-Angel-Cat, Oh, thank you for writing! it warmed my heart! I just came in from having 'dinner w/ Whimsy' and he looks at me so longingly now when I leave him. He's even letting me cut the horrible mattings out of his very long fur now. Dixie sounds like she was so dear and special, and I am sure the holistic approach aided her tremendously. I wish I had done blood work that day, but when they gave me the news and urged me to put him to sleep and not bother to do the IFA even, I forgot about the chipping, blood work etc. I did put to sleep a beautiful FeLV girl, Gypsy, last year because I was told it was the only thing to do and it appeared she had tumors in her mouth and ears. It never sat right with me, and I regretted it so deeply. I have found out that on this street/block, most ferals have had FeLV going back 20 yrs here. There aren't even colonies, but just random cats - I will see about 3 every year and TNR the ones I can. It seems like a very high rate. One bully male Sargeant lasted in the area nearly 3 yrs - very wild - I just saw him in Dec and he was suffering terribly, emaciated, coughing and staggering, but I could not trap him to help him and ease his suffering. I am sure he passed from FeLV. I did witness him attacking Whimsy, who is very passive, and I chased him off. I cringe to think Whimsy might suddenly disappear and I wouldn't be there to help him when it 'was time'. I hope I can get my guy to agree. paws crossed. Thank you for your input so very much. Shannon and Whimsy --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 4:01 PM The sunroom would be a wonderful solution. Others on this list can address the health issues. If he is separated, I would not be concerned personally. I would have a baseline blood test done (your vet may have already done this.) A few years ago Dixie came into my life much the way Whimsy has come into yours. She was the most wonderful little girl. She remained with me for 3 years. I took her into be spayed and got the awful FeLV news. At that time she was scheduled to be a farm/porch cat. She was a garage cat for a while then became a house cat. I took her to a holistic vet who is totally wonderful and who helped Dixie live a full life until her last minutes. Bless you for taking care of Whimsy. Please bring him into the sunroom. You will enjoy it as much as he does but know that he may hide for a while. New smells,
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OK.try Rescue Remedy and Feliway if you get him into the sunroom.and expect to spend some extra time therea nice recliner or other place for you to nap would be wonderful. On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: hi Mary Christine, Yes, he was given his basic shots, but I wasn't sure quite how/where Panleuk was covered. Someone mentioned it to me as being something I could transfer via clothing to my other guys, so it got me wondering. He is completely difficult for the vets to handle, and would have to be sedated, but the whole thing is rather dramatic, as I'm sure you are familiar with. I've been working with him 2 hrs a day since August - initially through the window just talking while he ate, then observing from a far. There was just something about him :). thanks for your input, it's appreciated. Shannon --- On Wed, 2/24/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 5:36 PM when he was neutered, was he given his basic shots? if so, if you can get him the booster, that'll protect him against panleuk, and the other basics. depends on your vet--if kitty is really hard to handle or get into a carrier, some will give you the vaccine to administer at home. i'm fairly sure that cats don't carry panleuk--if he's been exposed, he'll get sick and get over it, or not, but he won't harbor it forever. anyone? if he were ever a housecat, which it almost sounds as if he might have been at some point, he could well have been vaccinated as a young one, so has immunity to panleuk already. (and there's no answer, yet, as to whether or not immunity, once established by the full series of baby shots, is lifelong or not. i ain't even gonna go there!) MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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PS stress him as little as you can. Feed him the best you can. On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: hi Mary Christine, Yes, he was given his basic shots, but I wasn't sure quite how/where Panleuk was covered. Someone mentioned it to me as being something I could transfer via clothing to my other guys, so it got me wondering. He is completely difficult for the vets to handle, and would have to be sedated, but the whole thing is rather dramatic, as I'm sure you are familiar with. I've been working with him 2 hrs a day since August - initially through the window just talking while he ate, then observing from a far. There was just something about him :). thanks for your input, it's appreciated. Shannon --- On Wed, 2/24/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 5:36 PM when he was neutered, was he given his basic shots? if so, if you can get him the booster, that'll protect him against panleuk, and the other basics. depends on your vet--if kitty is really hard to handle or get into a carrier, some will give you the vaccine to administer at home. i'm fairly sure that cats don't carry panleuk--if he's been exposed, he'll get sick and get over it, or not, but he won't harbor it forever. anyone? if he were ever a housecat, which it almost sounds as if he might have been at some point, he could well have been vaccinated as a young one, so has immunity to panleuk already. (and there's no answer, yet, as to whether or not immunity, once established by the full series of baby shots, is lifelong or not. i ain't even gonna go there!) MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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definitely! all the while not making the 7 inside babies too jealous! --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 6:30 PM OK.try Rescue Remedy and Feliway if you get him into the sunroom.and expect to spend some extra time therea nice recliner or other place for you to nap would be wonderful. On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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yes, I worry about the stress of vet visits/change on his immune system. remarkably, he didn't hold it against me after I got him fixed, had him recover in the carrier, and then released him. He came right back for dinner. I usually feed the ferals a cheaper food, but I switched him to Tiki Cat in December and some crunchy Orejan kibble when he is picky. He likes Halo's chicken protein treats, too. And bowls of reverse osmosis water. And I always tell him he's very healthy - positive affirmations for kitties, why not! :) I also do Reiki on him, which he likes. --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 6:30 PM PS stress him as little as you can. Feed him the best you can. On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Shannon- I've had many FeLV cats over the last 10 years. I've never separated them from my negative cats. One of my FeLV negative cats was FIV positive. I vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months on the advice of my vet - won't mention her name, but she is now a nationally known vet. They all shared food, water, etc. None of my negative cats ever got the FeLV. Not even my FIV cat. There have been others on this list in the past who mixed their cats as well. On the subject of giving the FVRCP vaccines I can tell you I do not ever give it to my FeLV cats anymore. The last time I did the cat immediately got sick never recovered. She died within a few weeks of getting the vaccine. I know others who don't give it to their FeLV cats either - for the same reason. You would not give a sick cat a vaccine FeLV cats already have a depressed immune system. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:09:28 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] intro hi, I just joined this group - not sure how active it is, but I was thrilled to find the site. I've been taking care of a feral turned 'could be housecat' for 6 months. Finally I was able to trap Whimsy and got him fixed, etc. He turned out to be FeLV positive, but seemingly asymptomatic. We did not do a blood work as initially this was to be a TNR. He is approx 1 1/2 yrs old. I have other inside kitties, so after hearing the FeLV news it wasn't an option to bring him in, but I also refused to put him down. He does still live outside, but won't stay in the numerous shelters I have put out for him any longer due to possums moving into them. He hangs out in the yard most of the time, despite the cold Midwest weather, and is fed twice a day. Since his fixing 4 wks ago, he's become even sweeter, almost babyish and refuses to get off my lap when it's time for me to go inside. He's a real climber, jumper, I often see him on roofs and in trees. He was popcorning all over the place at the vet's - though I got him to walk into the carrier, he had to be sedated once there after a near escape. my question: I have a sun room that I could put him in, if my partner agrees, but what risk is there to my other kitties, a few with their own issues (FIV, HCM, CRF, lung issues, allergies). I am not super concerned about FeLV being spread since they'd be separated(unlikely) but other things Whimsy might have - like Panleuk. I have never been able to get a stool sample from him. what other scary things are possible? how do I ensure he won't have them? I did confirm the ELISA with an IFA, and it was positive. This is 'stage 5 or 6', then? His health issues have been: bouts of no appetitite in Dec coinciding with a runny eye and wound on chest. I got him on antibiotics and it took a good 2 wks, but the eye cleared and his appetite was back. He's had some not eating issues lately, but seems more concerned I coax him and sit with him while he eats. Pepcid helps slightly. He's also been on an immune booster for a month. He used to be a dodgy feral and now tries to rub his face on mine - he's come such a long way. I would love to hear any opinions or stories. thanks, Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org