[Felvtalk] Transfactor plus

2010-08-03 Thread Szacherdroid
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Re: [Felvtalk] Transfactor plus

2010-08-03 Thread trmckelvey
hi Stacy,

Your message came through garbled, see below :-)  Can't say if I'm the only 
one, but if you could resend, it would help.  If you're asking about transfer 
factor plus, I've used it with my FeLV+ cats.

Terry
 Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com wrote: 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Transfactor plus

2010-08-03 Thread Lorrie
It was garbled at this end too Lorrie

On 08-03, trmckel...@charter.net wrote:
 hi Stacy,
 
 Your message came through garbled, see below :-)  Can't say if I'm the only 
 one, but if you could resend, it would help.  If you're asking about transfer 
 factor plus, I've used it with my FeLV+ cats.
 
 Terry
  Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Transfactor plus

2010-08-03 Thread Natalie
Mine definitely came in some secret code...Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transfactor plus

It was garbled at this end too Lorrie

On 08-03, trmckel...@charter.net wrote:
 hi Stacy,
 
 Your message came through garbled, see below :-)  Can't say if I'm the
only one, but if you could resend, it would help.  If you're asking about
transfer factor plus, I've used it with my FeLV+ cats.
 
 Terry
  Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Sally Davis
Julie,

Thanks for giving this poor boy a wonderful life short as it may have
seemed. His last days were full of love and comfort.


Sally
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Chris
Good for you for giving this little guy some good times at the end of his
life.  Had you not been there for him, he would have suffered so much out
there.  No matter what happened to him in the first part of his life, he got
to know love and caring and the good life he so deserved.  Thank you so much
for doing that for him...

Christiane Biagi

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Julie G.
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.  In July I picked up a stray that turned
out 
to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy bed, 
delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give him, 
since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he could
live 
(I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap,
snoozing 
away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were always 
different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept on.  Last night his

back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet sitter said, but
they 
always came back on after a while.  But this morning they still didnt
work.  
The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal
cord.  
He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it too.  So
the 
decision was made to let him go.  


He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we

finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating, 
frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full
of 
tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed that we couldnt give
him 
a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us,
and 
filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and comfy and within a

foot of food at all times. :)

Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to
it... 
so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted
to 
drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was
my 
kitty.


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Sharyl
Julie, thank you for taking in Dude and giving him the love and attention he 
deserved.  At least in the end he knew he was loved.  We each do what we can to 
help the FeLV kitties but you took that extra step to help a stray who 
desperately needed you.  

Thanks to you he had a peaceful passing.
Lighting a candle tonight for Dude.
Sharyl

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 6:31 PM
 Hi I've been lurking a few weeks. 
 In July I picked up a stray that turned out 
 to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound,
 had a cushy bed, 
 delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had
 time to give him, 
 since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out
 where he could live 
 (I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him
 on my lap, snoozing 
 away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his
 pupils were always 
 different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept
 on.  Last night his 
 back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet
 sitter said, but they 
 always came back on after a while.  But this morning
 they still didnt work.  
 The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing
 on his spinal cord.  
 He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he
 wanted it too.  So the 
 decision was made to let him go.  
 
 
 He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a
 few months when we 
 finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine
 what a frustrating, 
 frightening life he'd be having out on the street right
 now, starving, full of 
 tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed
 that we couldnt give him 
 a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him
 when he needed us, and 
 filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and
 comfy and within a 
 foot of food at all times. :)
 
 Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first
 introduction to it... 
 so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related
 (cancer?)... but I wanted to 
 drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty
 for long, but he was my 
 kitty.
 
 
       
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Cougar Clan
Bless you for caring and giving him the love he needed and deserved.   
The little girl who came to me, Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, stayed for  
two wonderful yearsfar more than the vets ever though possible.  A  
month after Dixie left this world, she sent me a kitten who really  
needed a persontwo weeks later, she blessed me with a second  
kitten who needed a person.  They are big, healthy cats and the joys  
of my life and a joy to all of Dixie's vets (holistic and regular).   
The time I had with her was a blessing beyond wordsbe prepared  
for the blessings your little one sends to you and open your arms,  
home and heart.


Your little dude knew love and safety and plenty, things he never knew  
before he met you.   I wish every being could be so lucky.

On Aug 3, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Julie G. wrote:

Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.  In July I picked up a stray that  
turned out
to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a  
cushy bed,
delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to  
give him,
since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he  
could live
(I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap,  
snoozing
away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were  
always
different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept on.  Last  
night his
back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet sitter said,  
but they
always came back on after a while.  But this morning they still  
didnt work.
The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his  
spinal cord.
He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it  
too.  So the

decision was made to let him go.


He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months  
when we
finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a  
frustrating,
frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now,  
starving, full of
tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed that we  
couldnt give him
a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he  
needed us, and
filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and comfy and  
within a

foot of food at all times. :)

Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first  
introduction to it...
so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I  
wanted to
drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty for long,  
but he was my

kitty.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Julie G.
Thanks. That's what's getting me by too, knowing that had we not snatched him 
up 
last month, right now he'd be frustrated and scared, wondering how in the heck 
he was going to eat tonight since he couldnt make it up the stairs to the food 
dish on my neighbor's porch.  I just cant imagine.  

He didnt get to stay long, but I hope he had a good time at the Motel Julie. ;)

~Julie




From: Chris ti...@mindspring.com
Good for you for giving this little guy some good times at the end of his
life.  Had you not been there for him, he would have suffered so much out
there.  No matter what happened to him in the first part of his life, he got
to know love and caring and the good life he so deserved.  Thank you so much
for doing that for him...

Christiane Biagi

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.  In July I picked up a stray that turned
out 
to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy bed, 
delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give him, 
since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he could
live 
(I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap,
snoozing 
away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were always 
different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept on.  Last night his

back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet sitter said, but
they 
always came back on after a while.  But this morning they still didnt
work.  
The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal
cord.  
He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it too.  So
the 
decision was made to let him go.  


He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we

finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating, 
frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full
of 
tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed that we couldnt give
him 
a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us,
and 
filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and comfy and within a

foot of food at all times. :)

Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to
it... 
so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted
to 
drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was
my 
kitty.


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Julie G.
Thanks Sharyl.  I was hell bent that I was going to find him a home too. I was 
even trying to get some of my college kid neighbors to take him on, and I would 
sponsor his food and vet expenses.  I mean I was paying for him anyway, I may 
as 
well pay for him to live in someone's house and not in my crummy basement 
room.  
But alas we didnt get that far.  For a stray kitty, he sure was well behaved 
and 
lovey!  Big goofball. I lit a candle for him on Gratefulness.org too.  

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/minicandle.cfm?l=engcid=11327741  His 
temporary name was Big Head.  I guess it's the only one he got!  :)




From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 5:43:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

Julie, thank you for taking in Dude and giving him the love and attention he 
deserved.  At least in the end he knew he was loved.  We each do what we can to 
help the FeLV kitties but you took that extra step to help a stray who 
desperately needed you.  


Thanks to you he had a peaceful passing.
Lighting a candle tonight for Dude.
Sharyl

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 6:31 PM
 Hi I've been lurking a few weeks. 
 In July I picked up a stray that turned out 
 to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound,
 had a cushy bed, 
 delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had
 time to give him, 
 since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out
 where he could live 
 (I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him
 on my lap, snoozing 
 away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his
 pupils were always 
 different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept
 on.  Last night his 
 back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet
 sitter said, but they 
 always came back on after a while.  But this morning
 they still didnt work.  
 The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing
 on his spinal cord.  
 He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he
 wanted it too.  So the 
 decision was made to let him go.  
 
 
 He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a
 few months when we 
 finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine
 what a frustrating, 
 frightening life he'd be having out on the street right
 now, starving, full of 
 tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed
 that we couldnt give him 
 a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him
 when he needed us, and 
 filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and
 comfy and within a 
 foot of food at all times. :)
 
 Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first
 introduction to it... 
 so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related
 (cancer?)... but I wanted to 
 drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty
 for long, but he was my 
 kitty.
 
 
       
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Hi, Julie. Sorry you lost your boy. This so sounds like my own intro to
FeLV, when a stray came to my door and yowled to get in. He was a sweet and
friendly boy, ready for affection even during the first few days, when he
had horrific mats in his fur -- he looked like he had wings, but they were
all mats. We got some of them out, and the vet finished up, but their tests
revealed FeLV. We isolated Patches in a room away from our other cats and
gave him lots of love and care, but after only 7 weeks he stopped eating.
The vet said he thought there were lymphoma tumors making swallowing
painful, so we made the decision and sent him along. We felt so bad for him,
he really wanted to join the other cats in the rest of the house and was
just such a nice boy. To this day I wish we had been able to do better by
him, but our consolation is that his last couple of months were full of
comfort and caring. 

The connection between FeLV and tumors is that the FeLV suppresses the
immune system, and leaves them open to conditions, especially like lymphoma
and cancers, that cats are naturally prone to but that a healthy cat's body
would fight off. 

Hugs to you, and gentlest of Bridge vibes to your boy. 

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Julie G.
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 5:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.  In July I picked up a stray that turned
out to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy
bed, delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give
him, since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he
could live (I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my
lap, snoozing away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his
pupils were always different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept
on.  Last night his back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet
sitter said, but they always came back on after a while.  But this morning
they still didnt work. The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors
pressing on his spinal cord. He was in pain and his entire back end didn't
do what he wanted it too.  So the decision was made to let him go.  


He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we
finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating,
frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full
of tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed that we couldnt
give him a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he
needed us, and filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and
comfy and within a foot of food at all times. :)

Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to
it... 
so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted
to drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty for long, but he
was my kitty.


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Cougar Clan

Julie,

His fate would probably been much worse than that.  Cats that are sick  
or impaired become prey...easy prey...instead of hunters.  I am sure  
you know that cats don't show their people symptoms when they are  
sick..it is because they will die in the wildthe same, to a  
degree with dogs.They can be so hard to care for because they know  
their fates if they are not able to take care of themselves.  Dixie  
didn't show signs that she was in trouble until the day before she  
left this world.I rushed her to the very best vets 2 + hours  
away.  By the next day, she was leaving.  She waited until I was  
taking her home to put her in an O2 tent.my little girl was not  
leaving this world at any vets..no way...only in the Jeep where  
she traveled on so many adventures and with her Person.


I won't go into what raccoons, dogs, hawks.could have done.   
Your little Dude was extremely lucky...and you are blessed for  
caring for him.  Keep your heart open.

On Aug 3, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Julie G. wrote:

Thanks. That's what's getting me by too, knowing that had we not  
snatched him up
last month, right now he'd be frustrated and scared, wondering how  
in the heck
he was going to eat tonight since he couldnt make it up the stairs  
to the food

dish on my neighbor's porch.  I just cant imagine.

He didnt get to stay long, but I hope he had a good time at the  
Motel Julie. ;)


~Julie




From: Chris ti...@mindspring.com
Good for you for giving this little guy some good times at the end  
of his
life.  Had you not been there for him, he would have suffered so  
much out
there.  No matter what happened to him in the first part of his  
life, he got
to know love and caring and the good life he so deserved.  Thank you  
so much

for doing that for him...

Christiane Biagi

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.  In July I picked up a stray that  
turned

out
to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a  
cushy bed,
delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to  
give him,
since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he  
could

live
(I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap,
snoozing
away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were  
always
different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept on.  Last  
night his


back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet sitter said,  
but

they
always came back on after a while.  But this morning they still  
didnt

work.
The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his  
spinal

cord.
He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it  
too.  So

the
decision was made to let him go.


He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months  
when we


finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a  
frustrating,
frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now,  
starving, full

of
tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed that we  
couldnt give

him
a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he  
needed us,

and
filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and comfy and  
within a


foot of food at all times. :)

Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first  
introduction to

it...
so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I  
wanted

to
drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty for long,  
but he was

my
kitty.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Laurieskatz
God bless his soul. He came to you knowing you would provide comfort and
love in the short time he had left on this earth. Your life and his are
better for your compassion. I am sorry for your loss
L

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Julie G.
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 5:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.  In July I picked up a stray that turned
out 
to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy bed, 
delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give him, 
since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he could
live 
(I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap,
snoozing 
away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were always 
different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept on.  Last night his

back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet sitter said, but
they 
always came back on after a while.  But this morning they still didnt
work.  
The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal
cord.  
He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it too.  So
the 
decision was made to let him go.  


He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we

finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating, 
frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full
of 
tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed that we couldnt give
him 
a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us,
and 
filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and comfy and within a

foot of food at all times. :)

Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to
it... 
so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted
to 
drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was
my 
kitty.


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread linda gata
Hi!
I work with cancer patients and can explain to you what happened. Some tumors 
(cancer) invade the spinal cord, pushing and causing leg weakness and according 
to my patients, the pain is excrutiating. Radiation therapy can palliate the 
pain but not cure at this stage. We have a window of 24-48 hours to  treat or 
there will be a permanent disability( won't walk again). In your cat case, if 
medication didn't work, I think that you made the right decision by letting him 
go. Life is not measure about how long you live but how you lived it. In other 
words, Quality is the most important.

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From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 11:43 PM


Julie, thank you for taking in Dude and giving him the love and attention he 
deserved.  At least in the end he knew he was loved.  We each do what we can to 
help the FeLV kitties but you took that extra step to help a stray who 
desperately needed you.  

Thanks to you he had a peaceful passing.
Lighting a candle tonight for Dude.
Sharyl

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 6:31 PM
 Hi I've been lurking a few weeks. 
 In July I picked up a stray that turned out 
 to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound,
 had a cushy bed, 
 delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had
 time to give him, 
 since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out
 where he could live 
 (I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him
 on my lap, snoozing 
 away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his
 pupils were always 
 different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept
 on.  Last night his 
 back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet
 sitter said, but they 
 always came back on after a while.  But this morning
 they still didnt work.  
 The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing
 on his spinal cord.  
 He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he
 wanted it too.  So the 
 decision was made to let him go.  
 
 
 He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a
 few months when we 
 finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine
 what a frustrating, 
 frightening life he'd be having out on the street right
 now, starving, full of 
 tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed
 that we couldnt give him 
 a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him
 when he needed us, and 
 filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and
 comfy and within a 
 foot of food at all times. :)
 
 Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first
 introduction to it... 
 so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related
 (cancer?)... but I wanted to 
 drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty
 for long, but he was my 
 kitty.
 
 
       
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Lorrie
Hi Julie,

I've met you in some of the other cat groups we were both in.
How sad about your stray dude.  This is quite common with FelV 
cats.  I've had several who lost the use of their back legs.  
Thank heavens you found this cat and you were able to give him 
a few weeks of love and care before you had to let him go.

I believe it was you who had the drooling cat with stomatitis wasn't
it? You had him in your basement for ages, and you finally found him
a good home after having all his teeth pulled. You also started a N/S
clinic didn't you?  You do so much for cats.

Thank you Julie,

Lorrie (the old cat lady in WV) 

 On 08-03, Julie G. wrote:

 Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.? In July I picked up a stray that
 turned out to be FELV+.? In his few weeks with me he gained a
 pound, had a cushy bed, delicious premium canned food, and all the
 snuggles I had time to give him, since he lived in the basement
 while I tried to figure out where he could live (I have 4 cats).?
 I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap, snoozing away
 happily.? He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were
 always different sizes.? But he was relatively happy so we kept
 on.? Last night his back legs didnt work.? This had happened
 before, my pet sitter said, but they always came back on after a
 while.? But this morning they still didnt work.?  The vet?examined
 and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal cord.?  He
 was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it
 too.? So the decision was made to let him go.?
 
 
 He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few
 months when we finally caught him.? I'm so glad we did, I cant
 imagine what a frustrating, frightening life he'd be having out on
 the street right now, starving, full of tape worm, and 2 back legs
 that wont work.? I'm crushed that we couldnt give him a better
 life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us,
 and filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.? Safe and comfy
 and within a foot of food at all times. :)
 
 Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first
 introduction to it...  so I dont exactly know how the tumors are
 related (cancer?)... but I wanted to drop a line to folks who
 understand.? He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was my kitty.
 
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread dlgegg
just be glad for him that he found someone to take care of him and give him 
lots of love.  that is all we can do for these special babies.  that is all 
they ask of us.
 Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: 
 Bless you for caring and giving him the love he needed and deserved.   
 The little girl who came to me, Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, stayed for  
 two wonderful yearsfar more than the vets ever though possible.  A  
 month after Dixie left this world, she sent me a kitten who really  
 needed a persontwo weeks later, she blessed me with a second  
 kitten who needed a person.  They are big, healthy cats and the joys  
 of my life and a joy to all of Dixie's vets (holistic and regular).   
 The time I had with her was a blessing beyond wordsbe prepared  
 for the blessings your little one sends to you and open your arms,  
 home and heart.
 
 Your little dude knew love and safety and plenty, things he never knew  
 before he met you.   I wish every being could be so lucky.
 On Aug 3, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Julie G. wrote:
 
  Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.  In July I picked up a stray that  
  turned out
  to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a  
  cushy bed,
  delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to  
  give him,
  since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he  
  could live
  (I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap,  
  snoozing
  away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were  
  always
  different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept on.  Last  
  night his
  back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet sitter said,  
  but they
  always came back on after a while.  But this morning they still  
  didnt work.
  The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his  
  spinal cord.
  He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it  
  too.  So the
  decision was made to let him go.
 
 
  He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months  
  when we
  finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a  
  frustrating,
  frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now,  
  starving, full of
  tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed that we  
  couldnt give him
  a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he  
  needed us, and
  filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and comfy and  
  within a
  foot of food at all times. :)
 
  Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first  
  introduction to it...
  so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I  
  wanted to
  drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty for long,  
  but he was my
  kitty.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Transfactor plus

2010-08-03 Thread Gloria Lane
Well I usually assume it's someone eying to send something other than a text 
message, and it just doesn't get handled right. 

Gloria


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2010, at 6:29 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I HAVE HAD A FEW OF THOSE.  ANYONE KNOW WHAT CAUSES IT?
  Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: 
 It was garbled at this end too Lorrie
 
 On 08-03, trmckel...@charter.net wrote:
 hi Stacy,
 
 Your message came through garbled, see below :-)  Can't say if I'm the only 
 one, but if you could resend, it would help.  If you're asking about 
 transfer factor plus, I've used it with my FeLV+ cats.
 
 Terry
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Natalie
Dear Julie,
How sad for you but how lucky for stray dude to have found you to love him,
even for just a short time! One day, we will all think of the many animal
friends we lost with smiles instead of tears.  This little dude's soul
definitely left a rainbow in your heart forever!  Natalie  =^..^=  =^..^=
=^..^=  =^..^=  =^..^= etc.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Julie G.
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.  In July I picked up a stray that turned
out 
to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy bed, 
delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give him, 
since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he could
live 
(I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap,
snoozing 
away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were always 
different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept on.  Last night his

back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet sitter said, but
they 
always came back on after a while.  But this morning they still didnt
work.  
The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal
cord.  
He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it too.  So
the 
decision was made to let him go.  


He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we

finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating, 
frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full
of 
tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed that we couldnt give
him 
a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us,
and 
filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and comfy and within a

foot of food at all times. :)

Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to
it... 
so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted
to 
drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was
my 
kitty.


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Emeraldkittee
hi Julie,
 
He sure was your kitty, and always will be!  What a heartache that you came to 
know him during his final weeks, but what a blessing for him - I can't imagine 
the anquish he would have felt suffering like that.  I am sure he's in heaven 
now, but he surely thought he was in heaven the moment you took him in.  It's a 
beautiful story and you are to be commended for helping him without even 
knowing much about the condition.  I, too, have a stray who turned out to be 
positive so this story tugged at my heart.  Bless you and your angel boy.
 
Shannon

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 5:31 PM


Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.  In July I picked up a stray that turned out 
to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy bed, 
delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give him, 
since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he could live 
(I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap, snoozing 
away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were always 
different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept on.  Last night his 
back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet sitter said, but they 
always came back on after a while.  But this morning they still didnt work.  
The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal cord.  
He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it too.  So the 
decision was made to let him go.  


He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we 
finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating, 
frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full of 
tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed that we couldnt give 
him 
a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us, 
and 
filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and comfy and within a 
foot of food at all times. :)

Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to 
it... 
so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted to 
drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was my 
kitty.


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread Trish Sebben
Julie,
What you did for that cat is really beautiful, and he will stay alive in your 
heart forever. I am sorry for your loss. We also care for a stray who turned 
out 
to be FeLV positive - Zelda has been living in my foster room since January, 
waiting for a home, and our evenings together sound a lot like yours. You gave 
him a wonderful last couple of weeks, with safety, comfort and the love that 
all 
creatures deserve. I am sure that you will be blessed for your kindness.
Trish
 
Help me help animals! Visit Angels of Animals online at 
www.petfinder.com/shelters/NJ430.html. .

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

2010-08-03 Thread paola cresti
Hi Julie, 
I took in a stray that turned out to be FeLV+ at the same time you did (2 days 
before 4rth of July) so I really feel for you.
My little Angel is doing ok for now, but when I first took him to the vet I was 
thinking he'd be lasting a month or so as well, and the feeling was terrible 
and 
wanted to give him the best time being as possible, not having to wonder where 
his next meal was coming from or run from other stray/feral cats in the area.
Your little Dude had a little luck in the end.





From: Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 3:31:17 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude

Hi I've been lurking a few weeks.  In July I picked up a stray that turned out 
to be FELV+.  In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy bed, 
delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give him, 
since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he could live 
(I have 4 cats).  I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap, snoozing 
away happily.  He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were always 
different sizes.  But he was relatively happy so we kept on.  Last night his 
back legs didnt work.  This had happened before, my pet sitter said, but they 
always came back on after a while.  But this morning they still didnt work.  
The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal cord.  
He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it too.  So the 
decision was made to let him go.  


He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we 
finally caught him.  I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating, 
frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full of 
tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work.  I'm crushed that we couldnt give 
him 

a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us, 
and 

filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks.  Safe and comfy and within a 
foot of food at all times. :)

Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to 
it... 

so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted to 
drop a line to folks who understand.  He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was my 
kitty.


  
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