Re: [Felvtalk] He went on his own time. . .

2017-10-16 Thread Amani Oakley
Ken,

I am very sad to hear about your loss of Zorro. FeLV is a terrible disease that 
robs us of our beautiful furbabies, far far too soon. I am thrilled, though, 
that there are people like you out there who care and take the necessary steps 
to make little lives worth living, and lets these little babies know what love 
is, on their time on earth.

Amani



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Sent: October-16-17 11:24 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] He went on his own time. . .

Good Evening to all who just responded to Robert's "Anyone still there" email. 
This is my first post and I stumbled upon this site in my frantic effort to get 
info on FelV. Our tuxedo, Zorro, was with us barely a year when FelV took him 
in less than two weeks. I first saw him among the weeds and shrubs of my lower 
garden as he darted about, perhaps pursuing a field mouse. Over the next few 
weeks  I steadily coaxed him closer to the house with food, water and my 
appearances. Eventually he was on the back porch daily meowing for breakfast 
and our Teddy Bear dog, Oliver, watched Zorro eat from the other side of the 
screen door. By late September Zorro was eating in the house, finding the 
litter box and purring so loudly he could be heard from ten feet away. 

Zorro was neutered, vaccinated and checked over and quickly became the kindest, 
most lovable cat I've ever had and at 70 I've had a few! We all spent a 
wonderful year plus together and Oliver became so accepting of Zorro that he 
allowed himself to be groomed my him. All this came crashing down six weeks 
ago. Zorro slept more, did not jump into bed with me and though he ate, he ate 
in little spurts. We took him in, tried some antibiotics first since he had a 
fever but nothing changed. Then the blood tests; then the devastating news: 
FeLV. The Vet suggested we consider putting Zorro down since it was incurable. 
I said Zorro will decide that action. For the next ten days we bought time with 
Zorro using a coticosteroid via pills. But the inevitable came suddenly three 
Monday evenings back. Zorro was slowly walking and then just laid down. His 
breathing became labored and I lay down next to him whispering in his ears and 
stroking his side. I told him to go, he'd done it on his terms and w
   ithing five minutes he was still. 

We've buried him with his bed and special blanket to cover him and keep the 
soil off. He's now beneath a tree near where I first saw him.

Ken Resch

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[Felvtalk] He went on his own time. . .

2017-10-16 Thread kresch831
Good Evening to all who just responded to Robert's "Anyone still there" email. 
This is my first post and I stumbled upon this site in my frantic effort to get 
info on FelV. Our tuxedo, Zorro, was with us barely a year when FelV took him 
in less than two weeks. I first saw him among the weeds and shrubs of my lower 
garden as he darted about, perhaps pursuing a field mouse. Over the next few 
weeks  I steadily coaxed him closer to the house with food, water and my 
appearances. Eventually he was on the back porch daily meowing for breakfast 
and our Teddy Bear dog, Oliver, watched Zorro eat from the other side of the 
screen door. By late September Zorro was eating in the house, finding the 
litter box and purring so loudly he could be heard from ten feet away. 

Zorro was neutered, vaccinated and checked over and quickly became the kindest, 
most lovable cat I've ever had and at 70 I've had a few! We all spent a 
wonderful year plus together and Oliver became so accepting of Zorro that he 
allowed himself to be groomed my him. All this came crashing down six weeks 
ago. Zorro slept more, did not jump into bed with me and though he ate, he ate 
in little spurts. We took him in, tried some antibiotics first since he had a 
fever but nothing changed. Then the blood tests; then the devastating news: 
FeLV. The Vet suggested we consider putting Zorro down since it was incurable. 
I said Zorro will decide that action. For the next ten days we bought time with 
Zorro using a coticosteroid via pills. But the inevitable came suddenly three 
Monday evenings back. Zorro was slowly walking and then just laid down. His 
breathing became labored and I lay down next to him whispering in his ears and 
stroking his side. I told him to go, he'd done it on his terms and w
 ithing five minutes he was still. 

We've buried him with his bed and special blanket to cover him and keep the 
soil off. He's now beneath a tree near where I first saw him.

Ken Resch

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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There....

2017-10-16 Thread Amani Oakley
You know, Brian, I thought of you and Gilbert regularly. I was actually happy 
not to have heard from you, thinking that things must be fine. I am so sorry to 
hear of Gilbert's loss. It is wonderful that you were able to give him so much 
love in this world. 

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT 
CHAPEL
Sent: October-16-17 9:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There

No mail has appeared in my mailbox from this group for quite  long while so I 
thought I would inquire as to whether _ I _ am just missing mail that HAS been 
going to others or if the group has simply not been active for a couple of 
months. Generally it has been my experience that once I write one of these 
notes I start to get mail once again... NO idea why
I thought of all of you recently when it was time to put my Hospice Cat ( 
Gilbert) down Third cat I have lost in a year   I'm 0 for 3 at this 
point and am thinking it might be time to take on a more healthy animal but I 
keep harkening back to amani's words... If not us... who??
 Certainly not the people who don't much care about cats...nor the vast 
majority of people who HAVE cats.  There are SO many deserving animals out 
there that have problems that place them low on the adoption list  they ALL 
deserve to have a home and someone to see them as special  Gilbert was not 
adoptable with his brain injury...though ALL of the volunteers thought him 
special...still... no one came forward when he developed cancer though they all 
truly DID care that he was going to die  He had a good life for his last 
few months... sitting on the porch...looking out the window and more 
petting and love than even HE wanted.  As is usually the case it was 
probably harder on me than him when it came time He stopped eating, it was 
painful for him to get his oral meds and even subq pain killers did little... 
He was constipated and just hid out all day... The Tumor was forcing his one 
eye to protrude and the other to recede... it would have been cruel to ask him 
to endure more. A beautiful sweet animal I miss him terribly...
Curious to see if I find the list active with this submission.


Bob...



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2017-10-16 Thread Jennifer Olson
My thoughts and prayers are with all of you.
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[Felvtalk] Howdy!

2017-10-16 Thread Jennifer Olson
Still here, and glad the message tonight wasn't bad news!
Jen
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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There....

2017-10-16 Thread dlgegg
I feel for you loosing 3 in one year, it is hard enough to just loose one a 
year.  Anie was my last to go.  Hoepfully Harley, Dee and Homie are healthy and 
will live long lives.  I am the one with problems, went in for routine visit 
and was sent to cardioligist who told me I needed surgery.  I did not agree so 
he told me ok, patient refused surgery, next day was informed patient passed.  
So I went for many rounds of tests, heart, brathing, etc. and had the aortic 
valve replaced on 8/31, and pacemaker on 9/1 and went home on 9/2.. I had the 
TAVR proceedure done which runs the new bovine valve from an incision in the 
groin through the arteries  to the heart.  It goes inside the old valve and a 
metal framework forces the old valve open more.  This is the way to go if you 
do not want a lo g hospital stay and open heart surgery.  I have been "resting" 
since the last of June and will continue to be on restricted activity until 
December.  Then I have to get my muscles toned up again.  I insisted on being 
able to clean boxes, fill water fountains and feed my cats.  So, they only had 
to make do with someone else for 3 days.  You cannot drive for 2 weeks.  This 
has been my biggest problem, not doing anything but crosswords and crochet.
I thought maybe I was missing out on things, but sitting and sleeping keeps you 
off the internet. Thought maybe everyone was free from illness and all kitties 
were doing fine.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> No mail has appeared in my mailbox from this group for quite  long while 
so I thought I would inquire as to whether _ I _ am just missing mail 
that HAS been going to others or if the group has simply not been active 
for a couple of months. Generally it has been my experience that 
once I write one of these notes I start to get mail once again... NO 
idea why
I thought of all of you recently when it was time to put my Hospice Cat 
( Gilbert) down Third cat I have lost in a year   I'm 0 for 3 at 
this point and am thinking it might be time to take on a more healthy 
animal but I keep harkening back to amani's words... If not us... who??  
 Certainly not the people who don't much care about cats...nor the vast 
majority of people who HAVE cats.  There are SO many deserving 
animals out there that have problems that place them low on the adoption 
list  they ALL deserve to have a home and someone to see them as 
special  Gilbert was not adoptable with his brain injury...though 
ALL of the volunteers thought him special...still... no one came forward 
when he developed cancer though they all truly DID care that he was 
going to die  He had a good life for his last few months... sitting 
on the porch...looking out the window and more petting and love than 
even HE wanted.  As is usually the case it was probably harder on me 
than him when it came time He stopped eating, it was painful for him 
to get his oral meds and even subq pain killers did little... He was 
constipated and just hid out all day... The Tumor was forcing his one 
eye to protrude and the other to recede... it would have been cruel to 
ask him to endure more. A beautiful sweet animal I miss him 
terribly...
Curious to see if I find the list active with this submission.


Bob...



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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There....

2017-10-16 Thread Sandy
Hi one and all, it has been some time since I last saw a post as well. I'm 
happy to see the group is still alive! Bob, I feel so bad - sorry just doesn't 
cover it - you have had a sad, sad year. In my book, you are someone special 
who makes the difference for a very sick kitty cat - not many people can do 
what you do. I haven't had an FeLV kitty cat for some time - don't want one if 
possible. right now, I'm busy fostering momma's with babies and trying to get 
the teenagers adopted into good loving homes. Guess the worst I've got right 
now are 4 that were thrown away - just happen to have a genetic disease called 
Eyelid Agenesis - virtually, no eyelid. Surgery has taken care of the 2 girls 
but the 2 boys will need a 3rd surgery. Luckily, there is an animal eye 
specialist who works with rescue groups so the cost is 1/2 - but that still has 
to be raised and with all the devastating weather - not to mention this being 
the worst year for kittens being born most people are not donating for this 
cause. 
Hang in there Bob - remember there is only one of you and you are special. 
Katherine, I'm glad your kitty is still hanging in there. 

Sandy W 

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From: "Katherine K."  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:44:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There 

Hi Robert, 
Yup, still here. My sweet boy just turned 15 at the beginning of this month. 
We're at a plateau. His nose tumor growing and distorting the shape of his face 
- making one eye small - plus there's a small open sore at the top part of the 
bulge that seeps blood and mucus all day and leaves little crusty snail trails 
wherever he sleeps. I'm cleaning his face several times a day with wet wipes 
and tissues, and he's on pain meds. He looks awful but he's still eating 
faithfully, so as long as there's thatI'm here for him. 
Hugs to everyone's kitties 
K 

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:36 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL < bcha...@optonline.net > wrote: 


No mail has appeared in my mailbox from this group for quite long while so I 
thought I would inquire as to whether _ I _ am just missing mail that HAS been 
going to others or if the group has simply not been active for a couple of 
months. Generally it has been my experience that once I write one of these 
notes I start to get mail once again... NO idea why 
I thought of all of you recently when it was time to put my Hospice Cat ( 
Gilbert) down Third cat I have lost in a year I'm 0 for 3 at this point 
and am thinking it might be time to take on a more healthy animal but I keep 
harkening back to amani's words... If not us... who?? Certainly not the people 
who don't much care about cats...nor the vast majority of people who HAVE 
cats. There are SO many deserving animals out there that have problems that 
place them low on the adoption list they ALL deserve to have a home and 
someone to see them as special Gilbert was not adoptable with his brain 
injury...though ALL of the volunteers thought him special...still... no one 
came forward when he developed cancer though they all truly DID care that he 
was going to die He had a good life for his last few months... sitting on 
the porch...looking out the window and more petting and love than even HE 
wanted. As is usually the case it was probably harder on me than him when 
it came time He stopped eating, it was painful for him to get his oral meds 
and even subq pain killers did little... He was constipated and just hid out 
all day... The Tumor was forcing his one eye to protrude and the other to 
recede... it would have been cruel to ask him to endure more. A beautiful 
sweet animal I miss him terribly... 
Curious to see if I find the list active with this submission. 


Bob... 



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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There....

2017-10-16 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Robert,
Yup, still here. My sweet boy just turned 15 at the beginning of this
month. We're at a plateau. His nose tumor growing and distorting the shape
of his face - making one eye small - plus there's a small open sore at the
top part of the bulge that seeps blood and mucus all day and leaves little
crusty snail trails wherever he sleeps. I'm cleaning his face several times
a day with wet wipes and tissues, and he's on pain meds. He looks awful but
he's still eating faithfully, so as long as there's thatI'm here for
him.
Hugs to everyone's kitties
K

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:36 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
wrote:

> No mail has appeared in my mailbox from this group for quite  long while
> so I thought I would inquire as to whether _ I _ am just missing mail that
> HAS been going to others or if the group has simply not been active for a
> couple of months. Generally it has been my experience that once I write
> one of these notes I start to get mail once again... NO idea why
> I thought of all of you recently when it was time to put my Hospice Cat (
> Gilbert) down Third cat I have lost in a year   I'm 0 for 3 at this
> point and am thinking it might be time to take on a more healthy animal but
> I keep harkening back to amani's words... If not us... who??   Certainly
> not the people who don't much care about cats...nor the vast majority of
> people who HAVE cats.  There are SO many deserving animals out there
> that have problems that place them low on the adoption list  they ALL
> deserve to have a home and someone to see them as special  Gilbert was
> not adoptable with his brain injury...though ALL of the volunteers thought
> him special...still... no one came forward when he developed cancer though
> they all truly DID care that he was going to die  He had a good life
> for his last few months... sitting on the porch...looking out the
> window and more petting and love than even HE wanted.  As is usually
> the case it was probably harder on me than him when it came time He
> stopped eating, it was painful for him to get his oral meds and even subq
> pain killers did little... He was constipated and just hid out all day...
> The Tumor was forcing his one eye to protrude and the other to recede... it
> would have been cruel to ask him to endure more. A beautiful sweet
> animal I miss him terribly...
> Curious to see if I find the list active with this submission.
>
>
> Bob...
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There....

2017-10-16 Thread Kelley S
I never get initial emails, but get subsequent ones.

On Monday, October 16, 2017, ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:

> No mail has appeared in my mailbox from this group for quite  long while
> so I thought I would inquire as to whether _ I _ am just missing mail that
> HAS been going to others or if the group has simply not been active for a
> couple of months. Generally it has been my experience that once I write
> one of these notes I start to get mail once again... NO idea why
> I thought of all of you recently when it was time to put my Hospice Cat (
> Gilbert) down Third cat I have lost in a year   I'm 0 for 3 at this
> point and am thinking it might be time to take on a more healthy animal but
> I keep harkening back to amani's words... If not us... who??   Certainly
> not the people who don't much care about cats...nor the vast majority of
> people who HAVE cats.  There are SO many deserving animals out there
> that have problems that place them low on the adoption list  they ALL
> deserve to have a home and someone to see them as special  Gilbert was
> not adoptable with his brain injury...though ALL of the volunteers thought
> him special...still... no one came forward when he developed cancer though
> they all truly DID care that he was going to die  He had a good life
> for his last few months... sitting on the porch...looking out the
> window and more petting and love than even HE wanted.  As is usually
> the case it was probably harder on me than him when it came time He
> stopped eating, it was painful for him to get his oral meds and even subq
> pain killers did little... He was constipated and just hid out all day...
> The Tumor was forcing his one eye to protrude and the other to recede... it
> would have been cruel to ask him to endure more. A beautiful sweet
> animal I miss him terribly...
> Curious to see if I find the list active with this submission.
>
>
> Bob...
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There....

2017-10-16 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
No mail has appeared in my mailbox from this group for quite  long while 
so I thought I would inquire as to whether _ I _ am just missing mail 
that HAS been going to others or if the group has simply not been active 
for a couple of months. Generally it has been my experience that 
once I write one of these notes I start to get mail once again... NO 
idea why
I thought of all of you recently when it was time to put my Hospice Cat 
( Gilbert) down Third cat I have lost in a year   I'm 0 for 3 at 
this point and am thinking it might be time to take on a more healthy 
animal but I keep harkening back to amani's words... If not us... who??  
 Certainly not the people who don't much care about cats...nor the vast 
majority of people who HAVE cats.  There are SO many deserving 
animals out there that have problems that place them low on the adoption 
list  they ALL deserve to have a home and someone to see them as 
special  Gilbert was not adoptable with his brain injury...though 
ALL of the volunteers thought him special...still... no one came forward 
when he developed cancer though they all truly DID care that he was 
going to die  He had a good life for his last few months... sitting 
on the porch...looking out the window and more petting and love than 
even HE wanted.  As is usually the case it was probably harder on me 
than him when it came time He stopped eating, it was painful for him 
to get his oral meds and even subq pain killers did little... He was 
constipated and just hid out all day... The Tumor was forcing his one 
eye to protrude and the other to recede... it would have been cruel to 
ask him to endure more. A beautiful sweet animal I miss him 
terribly...

Curious to see if I find the list active with this submission.


Bob...



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