[Felvtalk] Nori - neuro symptoms
Hi, Patricia, Just a thought to mention to the neurologist: if Nori is having neurologic symptoms, perhaps a test for toxoplasmosis would be wise. And you might also want to mention to the treating vets that opiates allow some drugs that would not otherwise cross the blood/brain barrier to do so. Thus if her neurologic symptoms are the result of some infection, giving her an opiate such as buprenorphine along with an antibiotic could help the drug reach brain tissue it might not otherwise reach. Best regards, Lorraine___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
Awesome news!!! > On June 9, 2019 at 2:09 PM Patricia Oliveira wrote: > > Hi! > > I have experience with subqs. > > Nori is really better today! She ate 2 dishes of wet food while i was > there. She is more active and attentive to what happens. > > Neurologist said Nori has a deficiency on the left side of the body, as > if she had a stroke. It can be because of anemia, an inflammation or even > malnutrition. > > Vet added a brain supplement (MCT's) to Nori's prescription. > > Fip isn't discarded but felv also justify this condition so I hope she > has nothing more. > > Vets said maybe Nori can come home tomorrow :) > > Thank you! > > Patrícia > > > Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 23:23, Amani Oakley < aoak...@oakleylegal.com > mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > escreveu: > > > > > > One option is to ask your vet to show you how to give her > > subcutaneous fluids, which I do all the time for my cats if needed. > > However, for now, it makes sense to leave her there I guess. I presume they > > are warming the IV fluids too, because again, with such a small kitten, it > > wouldn’t take much to chill her if the fluids are at room temperature or > > colder. > > > > > > > > I guess it’s just me. I am pretty adamant about taking home my cats > > whenever possible, but I understand that Nori sounds like she needs some > > extra help. I just find that the cats respond far better to personal > > cuddling and love, and this makes them feel better, eat more, etc. > > > > > > > > Hopefully, she will feel better tomorrow. > > > > > > > > I’m crossing my fingers for you and Nori. > > > > > > > > Amani > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of Patricia Oliveira > > Sent: June 8, 2019 9:53 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > > > > > She has fluids IV all the time and replenishment of potassium. > > Receives external heating too. > > > > > > > > They monitor pressure (low sometimes), oxygenation, temperature and > > heart rate several times a day. > > > > I wish she could come home soon but she has been dehydrated even > > with fluids IV. I don´t know if it is safe to bring her now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 22:03, Amani Oakley > > mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you that it is too early to tell, but for sure > > > it is good news that the haematocrit is moving in the right direction. > > > Very good news on the rosy gingiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rouleaux is likely only due to the transfusion. She appears > > > to have had a bit of transfusion reaction, so the cells may be sticking > > > to one another as a result. (Red cells in Rouleaux formation means that > > > the look like a stack of coins – one on top of the other. In humans, that > > > presentation is consistent with multiple myeloma. I don’t think it means > > > anything right now other than the new red cells may be reacting a bit > > > with her own cells). > > > > > > > > > > > > I think she is working through the transfusion reaction, so > > > that is likely why she is sleeping because you said that immediately > > > after the transfusion, she was active and eating on her own. > > > > > > > > > > > > Low platelets are consistent with the FeLV presentation and > > > the impact on the bone marrow. Hopefully, the Stanozolol will help. I > > > seem to recall that with my Zander, I had the red cell numbers recover > > > first, before the platelets recovered. > > > > > > > > > > > > I presume they have her on a heating pad to keep her body > > > temperature up. > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect it might be premature to look at the neurology > > > right now. She is working through a lot, and is a tiny kitten. She needs > > > to be given time to recover from the transfusion reaction, and to allow > > > the good food and medication to start to work. I don’t know how a > > > neurological diagnosis could help you now, and one would expect the > > > neurologist will have a difficult time seeing a true neurological > > > deficit, with all the rest of the stuff happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would also suggest that at some point, it is better for her > > > to be with you at home. If they are not giving her anything like fluids, > > > you might consider taking her home with you. I
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 19
Hi please unsubscribe me from your mailing list On Sun, Jun 9, 2019, 5:08 PM wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Rescued kitten felv + (Lorraine Johnston) >2. Re: Rescued kitten felv + (Pam Doore) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 18:26:42 -0400 > From: "Lorraine Johnston" > To: > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > Message-ID: <002d01d51f12$703e6f70$50bb4e50$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Excellent news about Nori! > > > > - Lorraine > > > > "Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the > things no one can imagine." - Alan Turing > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Patricia Oliveira > Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 2:09 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > Hi! > > > > I have experience with subqs. > > > > Nori is really better today! She ate 2 dishes of wet food while i was > there. She is more active and attentive to what happens. > > > > Neurologist said Nori has a deficiency on the left side of the body, as if > she had a stroke. It can be because of anemia, an inflammation or even > malnutrition. > > > > Vet added a brain supplement (MCT's) to Nori's prescription. > > > > Fip isn't discarded but felv also justify this condition so I hope she has > nothing more. > > > > Vets said maybe Nori can come home tomorrow :) > > > > Thank you! > > > > Patr?cia > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20190609/b2831748/attachment-0001.html > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 20:07:43 -0400 > From: Pam Doore > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > Message-ID: > < > ca+-nmsszxqaq9rdnvyurlf3vsrtqj7ub-jgygjq-cxskqxa...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > That is great news about Nori! > > ~~@~@~@~@~@ > > *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, > Christ beneath me, Christ above me. ? **St. Patrick* > > > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 2:10 PM Patricia Oliveira > wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I have experience with subqs. > > > > Nori is really better today! She ate 2 dishes of wet food while i was > > there. She is more active and attentive to what happens. > > > > Neurologist said Nori has a deficiency on the left side of the body, as > if > > she had a stroke. It can be because of anemia, an inflammation or even > > malnutrition. > > > > Vet added a brain supplement (MCT's) to Nori's prescription. > > > > Fip isn't discarded but felv also justify this condition so I hope she > has > > nothing more. > > > > Vets said maybe Nori can come home tomorrow :) > > > > Thank you! > > > > Patr?cia > > > > > > Em s?b, 8 de jun de 2019 ?s 23:23, Amani Oakley > > > escreveu: > > > >> One option is to ask your vet to show you how to give her subcutaneous > >> fluids, which I do all the time for my cats if needed. However, for > now, it > >> makes sense to leave her there I guess. I presume they are warming the > IV > >> fluids too, because again, with such a small kitten, it wouldn?t take > much > >> to chill her if the fluids are at room temperature or colder. > >> > >> > >> > >> I guess it?s just me. I am pretty adamant about taking home my cats > >> whenever possible, but I understand that Nori sounds like she needs some > >> extra help. I just find that the cats respond far better to personal > >> cuddling a
Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
That is great news about Nori! ~~@~@~@~@~@ *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — **St. Patrick* On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 2:10 PM Patricia Oliveira wrote: > Hi! > > I have experience with subqs. > > Nori is really better today! She ate 2 dishes of wet food while i was > there. She is more active and attentive to what happens. > > Neurologist said Nori has a deficiency on the left side of the body, as if > she had a stroke. It can be because of anemia, an inflammation or even > malnutrition. > > Vet added a brain supplement (MCT's) to Nori's prescription. > > Fip isn't discarded but felv also justify this condition so I hope she has > nothing more. > > Vets said maybe Nori can come home tomorrow :) > > Thank you! > > Patrícia > > > Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 23:23, Amani Oakley > escreveu: > >> One option is to ask your vet to show you how to give her subcutaneous >> fluids, which I do all the time for my cats if needed. However, for now, it >> makes sense to leave her there I guess. I presume they are warming the IV >> fluids too, because again, with such a small kitten, it wouldn’t take much >> to chill her if the fluids are at room temperature or colder. >> >> >> >> I guess it’s just me. I am pretty adamant about taking home my cats >> whenever possible, but I understand that Nori sounds like she needs some >> extra help. I just find that the cats respond far better to personal >> cuddling and love, and this makes them feel better, eat more, etc. >> >> >> >> Hopefully, she will feel better tomorrow. >> >> >> >> I’m crossing my fingers for you and Nori. >> >> >> >> Amani >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk * On Behalf Of >> *Patricia >> Oliveira >> *Sent:* June 8, 2019 9:53 PM >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + >> >> >> >> She has fluids IV all the time and replenishment of potassium. Receives >> external heating too. >> >> >> >> They monitor pressure (low sometimes), oxygenation, temperature and heart >> rate several times a day. >> >> I wish she could come home soon but she has been dehydrated even with >> fluids IV. I don´t know if it is safe to bring her now. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 22:03, Amani Oakley >> escreveu: >> >> Patricia >> >> >> >> I agree with you that it is too early to tell, but for sure it is good >> news that the haematocrit is moving in the right direction. Very good news >> on the rosy gingiva. >> >> >> >> Rouleaux is likely only due to the transfusion. She appears to have had a >> bit of transfusion reaction, so the cells may be sticking to one another as >> a result. (Red cells in Rouleaux formation means that the look like a stack >> of coins – one on top of the other. In humans, that presentation is >> consistent with multiple myeloma. I don’t think it means anything right now >> other than the new red cells may be reacting a bit with her own cells). >> >> >> >> I think she is working through the transfusion reaction, so that is >> likely why she is sleeping because you said that immediately after the >> transfusion, she was active and eating on her own. >> >> >> >> Low platelets are consistent with the FeLV presentation and the impact on >> the bone marrow. Hopefully, the Stanozolol will help. I seem to recall that >> with my Zander, I had the red cell numbers recover first, before the >> platelets recovered. >> >> >> >> I presume they have her on a heating pad to keep her body temperature up. >> >> >> >> I suspect it might be premature to look at the neurology right now. She >> is working through a lot, and is a tiny kitten. She needs to be given time >> to recover from the transfusion reaction, and to allow the good food and >> medication to start to work. I don’t know how a neurological diagnosis >> could help you now, and one would expect the neurologist will have a >> difficult time seeing a true neurological deficit, with all the rest of the >> stuff happening. >> >> >> >> I would also suggest that at some point, it is better for her to be with >> you at home. If they are not giving her anything like fluids, you might >> consider taking her home with you. I know with Zander, he reacted most >> strongly when I was there with him. I could get him to play a little bit >> and that made him feel better, and of course, lots of cuddles and kisses. >> >> >> >> Amani >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk *On Behalf Of >> *Patricia >> Oliveira >> *Sent:* June 8, 2019 8:52 PM >> *To:* Sandra Wachtstetter ; >> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + >> >> >> >> Thank you, Sandra :) >> >> >> >> I visited Nori today. The hospital is in another city so I can't go there >> every day. >> >> >> >> She is a rosy gingiva, but continues to sleep most of the time and with a >> low temperature. One of the veterinarians there thinks that temperature is >> lower because of malnutrition, she ha
Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
Excellent news about Nori! - Lorraine "Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the things no one can imagine." - Alan Turing From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Patricia Oliveira Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 2:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + Hi! I have experience with subqs. Nori is really better today! She ate 2 dishes of wet food while i was there. She is more active and attentive to what happens. Neurologist said Nori has a deficiency on the left side of the body, as if she had a stroke. It can be because of anemia, an inflammation or even malnutrition. Vet added a brain supplement (MCT's) to Nori's prescription. Fip isn't discarded but felv also justify this condition so I hope she has nothing more. Vets said maybe Nori can come home tomorrow :) Thank you! Patrícia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
Hi! I have experience with subqs. Nori is really better today! She ate 2 dishes of wet food while i was there. She is more active and attentive to what happens. Neurologist said Nori has a deficiency on the left side of the body, as if she had a stroke. It can be because of anemia, an inflammation or even malnutrition. Vet added a brain supplement (MCT's) to Nori's prescription. Fip isn't discarded but felv also justify this condition so I hope she has nothing more. Vets said maybe Nori can come home tomorrow :) Thank you! Patrícia Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 23:23, Amani Oakley escreveu: > One option is to ask your vet to show you how to give her subcutaneous > fluids, which I do all the time for my cats if needed. However, for now, it > makes sense to leave her there I guess. I presume they are warming the IV > fluids too, because again, with such a small kitten, it wouldn’t take much > to chill her if the fluids are at room temperature or colder. > > > > I guess it’s just me. I am pretty adamant about taking home my cats > whenever possible, but I understand that Nori sounds like she needs some > extra help. I just find that the cats respond far better to personal > cuddling and love, and this makes them feel better, eat more, etc. > > > > Hopefully, she will feel better tomorrow. > > > > I’m crossing my fingers for you and Nori. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk * On Behalf Of > *Patricia > Oliveira > *Sent:* June 8, 2019 9:53 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > She has fluids IV all the time and replenishment of potassium. Receives > external heating too. > > > > They monitor pressure (low sometimes), oxygenation, temperature and heart > rate several times a day. > > I wish she could come home soon but she has been dehydrated even with > fluids IV. I don´t know if it is safe to bring her now. > > > > > > > > Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 22:03, Amani Oakley > escreveu: > > Patricia > > > > I agree with you that it is too early to tell, but for sure it is good > news that the haematocrit is moving in the right direction. Very good news > on the rosy gingiva. > > > > Rouleaux is likely only due to the transfusion. She appears to have had a > bit of transfusion reaction, so the cells may be sticking to one another as > a result. (Red cells in Rouleaux formation means that the look like a stack > of coins – one on top of the other. In humans, that presentation is > consistent with multiple myeloma. I don’t think it means anything right now > other than the new red cells may be reacting a bit with her own cells). > > > > I think she is working through the transfusion reaction, so that is likely > why she is sleeping because you said that immediately after the > transfusion, she was active and eating on her own. > > > > Low platelets are consistent with the FeLV presentation and the impact on > the bone marrow. Hopefully, the Stanozolol will help. I seem to recall that > with my Zander, I had the red cell numbers recover first, before the > platelets recovered. > > > > I presume they have her on a heating pad to keep her body temperature up. > > > > I suspect it might be premature to look at the neurology right now. She is > working through a lot, and is a tiny kitten. She needs to be given time to > recover from the transfusion reaction, and to allow the good food and > medication to start to work. I don’t know how a neurological diagnosis > could help you now, and one would expect the neurologist will have a > difficult time seeing a true neurological deficit, with all the rest of the > stuff happening. > > > > I would also suggest that at some point, it is better for her to be with > you at home. If they are not giving her anything like fluids, you might > consider taking her home with you. I know with Zander, he reacted most > strongly when I was there with him. I could get him to play a little bit > and that made him feel better, and of course, lots of cuddles and kisses. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk *On Behalf Of *Patricia > Oliveira > *Sent:* June 8, 2019 8:52 PM > *To:* Sandra Wachtstetter ; > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > Thank you, Sandra :) > > > > I visited Nori today. The hospital is in another city so I can't go there > every day. > > > > She is a rosy gingiva, but continues to sleep most of the time and with a > low temperature. One of the veterinarians there thinks that temperature is > lower because of malnutrition, she has almost no lean mass and no fat. > > > > Nori will go through the evaluation of a neurologist tomorrow. Some > hypotheses raised for this prostration are neurological, including a > possible hypoxia before the first transfusion when her hematocrit was > really low. > > > > Her blood work today is 30% hematocrit, the higher till now! So i think > red cells aren´t being destroyed anymore, is it right or is it early to > know? > >
[Felvtalk] more re feline interferon omega
I see that feline interferon omega was discussed here a number of years ago. Below is recent information about feline interferon omega, shared by a biologist who is a member of another feline discussion group. Feline interferon omega is different from human interferon alfa, which will eventually cause a serious reaction if injected into a cat (though I’m told it can be used orally to control mouth sores with no risk of a reaction). - Lorraine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . “The European Veterinary Advisory Board on Cat Diseases recommends to treat FELV-infected cats with recurring infections as follows : ‘Treat recurring infections aggressively (e.g., longer courses of and/or bacteriocidal antibiotics). Consider treatment with feline interferon-omega (106 IU/kg SQ q 24 h for 5 consecutive days, 3 courses starting on days 0, 14 and 60)’ " “They note in their Table 3 that injectable Feline Omega Interferon showed "efficacy in vivo," on FELV+ cats; that is it showed ‘some effects (most likely more on secondary infections,’ in properly designed studies by de Mari et al. (2004) and Gil et al. (2013). They note also in their Table 3 that subcutaneous or oral Human interferon alpha was ineffective in in vivo studies on FELV+ cats.” “http://www.abcdcatsvets.org/feline-leukaemia-virus-infection/” (end quote) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
