Awesome news!!!

> On June 9, 2019 at 2:09 PM Patricia Oliveira <cinzaeamar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     Hi!
> 
>     I have experience with subqs.
> 
>     Nori is really better today! She ate 2 dishes of wet food while i was 
> there. She is more active and attentive to what happens.
> 
>     Neurologist said Nori has a deficiency on the left side of the body, as 
> if she had a stroke. It can be because of anemia, an inflammation or even 
> malnutrition. 
> 
>     Vet added a brain supplement (MCT's) to Nori's prescription. 
> 
>     Fip isn't discarded but felv also justify this condition so I hope she 
> has nothing more.
> 
>     Vets said maybe Nori can come home tomorrow :)
> 
>     Thank you!
> 
>     Patrícia
> 
> 
>     Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 23:23, Amani Oakley < aoak...@oakleylegal.com 
> mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > escreveu:
> 
>         > > 
> >         One option is to ask your vet to show you how to give her 
> > subcutaneous fluids, which I do all the time for my cats if needed. 
> > However, for now, it makes sense to leave her there I guess. I presume they 
> > are warming the IV fluids too, because again, with such a small kitten, it 
> > wouldn’t take much to chill her if the fluids are at room temperature or 
> > colder.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         I guess it’s just me. I am pretty adamant about taking home my cats 
> > whenever possible, but I understand that Nori sounds like she needs some 
> > extra help. I just find that the cats respond far better to personal 
> > cuddling and love, and this makes them feel better, eat more, etc.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Hopefully, she will feel better tomorrow.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         I’m crossing my fingers for you and Nori.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Amani
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of Patricia Oliveira
> >         Sent: June 8, 2019 9:53 PM
> >         To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >         Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         She has fluids IV all the time and replenishment of potassium. 
> > Receives external heating too. 
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         They monitor pressure (low sometimes), oxygenation, temperature and 
> > heart rate several times a day.
> > 
> >         I wish she could come home soon but she has been dehydrated even 
> > with fluids IV. I don´t know if it is safe to bring her now.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 22:03, Amani Oakley 
> > <aoak...@oakleylegal.com mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > escreveu:
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             Patricia
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             I agree with you that it is too early to tell, but for sure 
> > > it is good news that the haematocrit is moving in the right direction. 
> > > Very good news on the rosy gingiva.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Rouleaux is likely only due to the transfusion. She appears 
> > > to have had a bit of transfusion reaction, so the cells may be sticking 
> > > to one another as a result. (Red cells in Rouleaux formation means that 
> > > the look like a stack of coins – one on top of the other. In humans, that 
> > > presentation is consistent with multiple myeloma. I don’t think it means 
> > > anything right now other than the new red cells may be reacting a bit 
> > > with her own cells).
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             I think she is working through the transfusion reaction, so 
> > > that is likely why she is sleeping because you said that immediately 
> > > after the transfusion, she was active and eating on her own.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Low platelets are consistent with the FeLV presentation and 
> > > the impact on the bone marrow. Hopefully, the Stanozolol will help. I 
> > > seem to recall that with my Zander, I had the red cell numbers recover 
> > > first, before the platelets recovered.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             I presume they have her on a heating pad to keep her body 
> > > temperature up.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             I suspect it might be premature to look at the neurology 
> > > right now. She is working through a lot, and is a tiny kitten. She needs 
> > > to be given time to recover from the transfusion reaction, and to allow 
> > > the good food and medication to start to work. I don’t know how a 
> > > neurological diagnosis could help you now, and one would expect the 
> > > neurologist will have a difficult time seeing a true neurological 
> > > deficit, with all the rest of the stuff happening.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             I would also suggest that at some point, it is better for her 
> > > to be with you at home. If they are not giving her anything like fluids, 
> > > you might consider taking her home with you. I know with Zander, he 
> > > reacted most strongly when I was there with him. I could get him to play 
> > > a little bit and that made him feel better, and of course, lots of 
> > > cuddles and kisses.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Amani
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of Patricia 
> > > Oliveira
> > >             Sent: June 8, 2019 8:52 PM
> > >             To: Sandra Wachtstetter <swacht1...@comcast.net 
> > > mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net >; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > > mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >             Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Thank you, Sandra  :)
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             I visited Nori today. The hospital is in another city so I 
> > > can't go there every day. 
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             She is a rosy gingiva, but continues to sleep most of the 
> > > time and with a low temperature. One of the veterinarians there thinks 
> > > that temperature is lower because of malnutrition, she has almost no lean 
> > > mass and no fat.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Nori will go through the evaluation of a neurologist 
> > > tomorrow. Some hypotheses raised for this prostration are neurological, 
> > > including a possible hypoxia before the first transfusion when her 
> > > hematocrit was really low.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Her blood work today is 30% hematocrit, the higher till now! 
> > > So i think red cells aren´t being destroyed anymore, is it right or is it 
> > > early to know?  
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Some red cells in Rouleaux. Leukocytes are still high (> 
> > > 26.000), low platelets for the first time (92.000). 
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Nori had an echocardiogram today too and it is ok.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Thank you!
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Patrícia
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 11:40, Sandra Wachtstetter 
> > > <swacht1...@comcast.net mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net > escreveu:
> > > 
> > >                 > > > > 
> > > >                 Hello Patricia, you may already be doing this - but if 
> > > > not, please take a copy of Amani's conversations for the vet to read - 
> > > > may help.
> > > > 
> > > >                 Good luck - don't give up!!
> > > > 
> > > >                 Sandt W
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                     > > > > > 
> > > > >                     On June 7, 2019 at 9:55 PM Patricia Oliveira 
> > > > > <cinzaeamar...@gmail.com mailto:cinzaeamar...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Nori did not want to eat by herself so they are 
> > > > > syringing food. They started another medication for nausea, although 
> > > > > she does not vomit, they think that may be why she does not eat.
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Blood work showed changes in neutrophils (bizarre 
> > > > > core?), veternary says it can be from leukemia.
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     The result of this transfusion was not as good as 
> > > > > the other time :(
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     i´ll talk to veterinary tomorrow morning again.
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     thank you!
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Patrícia
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Em sex, 7 de jun de 2019 às 16:13, Amani Oakley < 
> > > > > aoak...@oakleylegal.com mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > escreveu:
> > > > > 
> > > > >                         > > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Still sounds more like a transfusion 
> > > > > > reaction than anything with the meds.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Hang in there. See what the afternoon labs 
> > > > > > show.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Amani
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         From: Felvtalk 
> > > > > > <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of Patricia 
> > > > > > Oliveira
> > > > > >                         Sent: June 7, 2019 1:44 PM
> > > > > >                         To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > > >                         Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv 
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Hi, Amani
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Nori is receiving 
> > > > > > doxy+prenisolone+stanazolol even in the hospital.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         I know it can be a reaction but i thought 
> > > > > > higher dose of prednisolone would prevent hemolysis.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         I also know it's normal for part of the red 
> > > > > > blood cells to be cleared right after the transfusion, but i don´t 
> > > > > > remember if it was icteric plasma on last one.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         I was hopefull she would come back home 
> > > > > > tomorrow, now i don´t know if it will be possible.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Today she must have am echocardiogram too 
> > > > > > because x-ray showed an enlarged heart. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Thank you!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Em sex, 7 de jun de 2019 às 14:18, Amani 
> > > > > > Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > 
> > > > > > escreveu:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                             > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             Hi Patricia
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             The Stanozolol often has a 
> > > > > > > side-effect of elevating liver enzymes, though I cannot remember 
> > > > > > > if it also increased bilirubin (which would be what would cause 
> > > > > > > the icteric observation of the plasma). However, hang in there. 
> > > > > > > If it is the Stanozolol, my experience is that the liver enzymes 
> > > > > > > drop right back to normal, shortly after it is discontinued, and 
> > > > > > > there is no lasting damage to the liver. For now, what you have 
> > > > > > > described (low temp and slightly lower heart rate) seems more 
> > > > > > > likely to be related to the transfusion itself, rather than 
> > > > > > > anything else going on.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             It is also possible that with the 
> > > > > > > additional transfusion, there is a higher than normal red cell 
> > > > > > > destruction going on, which would be another explanation for the 
> > > > > > > increased icterus in the blood (which will also show as an 
> > > > > > > increase in bilirubin). Elevated bilirubin can often be caused by 
> > > > > > > a reaction to a blood transfusion. If the high bilirubin is the 
> > > > > > > indirect or the unconjugated portion, it is related to red cell 
> > > > > > > break down. The direct bilirubin (conjugated portion) is related 
> > > > > > > to liver function. The lab results are usually broken down to 
> > > > > > > Total bilirubin and Direct bilirubin. The indirect portion is 
> > > > > > > obtained by subtracting the direct amount from the total amount.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             I myself went through the pressure of 
> > > > > > > the vets wanting me to discontinue the Stanozolol because of 
> > > > > > > abnormal liver enzymes. My logic was that there was nothing else. 
> > > > > > > If I discontinued the Stanozolol, my cat would die, period. I 
> > > > > > > continued and found that in the end, the liver enzymes normalized 
> > > > > > > on their own, even though I had Zander on almost continuous 
> > > > > > > Stanozolol for close to two years.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             I know that you know that you are 
> > > > > > > only temporarily helping Nori with blood transfusions, and the 
> > > > > > > virus is still attacking cells, etc. In my opinion – and mine 
> > > > > > > alone – my experience and research leads me to the conclusion 
> > > > > > > that the combination of Doxycycline/Prednisone/Stanozolol worked 
> > > > > > > to not only boost the red cell production, but I believe that the 
> > > > > > > Doxycyline assisted in keeping the viruses from properly 
> > > > > > > reproducing.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             However, anticipate that when the vet 
> > > > > > > gets back the second set of blood work, she may well try to tell 
> > > > > > > you to discontinue the Stanozolol.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             Amani
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             From: Felvtalk 
> > > > > > > <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of 
> > > > > > > Patricia Oliveira
> > > > > > >                             Sent: June 7, 2019 12:53 PM
> > > > > > >                             To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > > mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > > > >                             Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued 
> > > > > > > kitten felv +
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             Hi, Amani!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             Nori got another transfusion last 
> > > > > > > night, hematocrit was 11.9 before it. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             Today morning, i talk to the 
> > > > > > > hospital's veterinarian, she said hematocrit went to 29 and Nori 
> > > > > > > was fine, all normal parameters and eating by herself again.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             But plasma was intensely icteric. I 
> > > > > > > think this means red cells being destroyed, isn't it?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             About one hour ago, veterinarian said 
> > > > > > > Nori was with low temperature and heart rate slightly lower than 
> > > > > > > normal. She was waiting the new blood work. In the morning, it 
> > > > > > > was done only hematocrit, not complete blood work.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             i am worried again.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             Thank you,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             Patrícia
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             Em ter, 4 de jun de 2019 às 23:46, 
> > > > > > > Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com 
> > > > > > > mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > escreveu:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                                 > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 I would be leery of the going 
> > > > > > > > the route suggested by the vet at this juncture. I seriously 
> > > > > > > > seriously doubt if the erythropoietin will help. See my earlier 
> > > > > > > > where I explain why.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Amani
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 From: Felvtalk 
> > > > > > > > <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > > > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of 
> > > > > > > > Patricia Oliveira
> > > > > > > >                                 Sent: June 4, 2019 8:53 PM
> > > > > > > >                                 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > > > mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > > > > >                                 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued 
> > > > > > > > kitten felv +
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Hi, Lorraine
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Veterinary wants to increase 
> > > > > > > > prednisolone to immunosuppressive dose and add erythropoietin. 
> > > > > > > > She thinks it is immune-mediated anemia and not mycoplasma.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Nori is receiving  1,2 mg 
> > > > > > > > prednisolone, twice a day. She weighs only 1 kg. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 We did x-ray today too. No 
> > > > > > > > visible tumor but we found a possible cardiopathy ("Increased 
> > > > > > > > globular-looking heart silhouette").
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 :(
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Em ter, 4 de jun de 2019 às 
> > > > > > > > 20:50, Lorraine Johnston <johnston1...@comcast.net 
> > > > > > > > mailto:johnston1...@comcast.net > escreveu:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                     > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Patricia,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     I would go with the 
> > > > > > > > > transfusion and also start erythropoietin.  Stanozolol is 
> > > > > > > > > supposed to stimulate erythropoietin production, but she 
> > > > > > > > > might need a boost of the ready-made drug just to keep her 
> > > > > > > > > alive until then.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     - Lorraine
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     "Sometimes it is the 
> > > > > > > > > people no one can imagine anything of who do the things no 
> > > > > > > > > one can imagine."  - Alan Turing
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     From: Felvtalk 
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > > > > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of 
> > > > > > > > > Patricia Oliveira
> > > > > > > > >                                     Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 
> > > > > > > > > 2019 6:34 PM
> > > > > > > > >                                     To: 
> > > > > > > > > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > > > > > >                                     Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 
> > > > > > > > > Rescued kitten felv +
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Hi,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     We did another blood work 
> > > > > > > > > today, her hematocrit is 13% now :(
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     She is very sleepy but 
> > > > > > > > > responsive when i talk to her. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     I don´t know if i can 
> > > > > > > > > wait some more days to see if stanozolol is working. Or maybe 
> > > > > > > > > it would be better get another transfusion right now.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Today, vet talk about 
> > > > > > > > > erythropoietin. Do you know if it can be used with stanozolol?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Thank you,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Patrícia
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Em sáb, 1 de jun de 2019 
> > > > > > > > > às 14:44, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com 
> > > > > > > > > mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > escreveu:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                         > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Hi Patricia – I 
> > > > > > > > > > gave all the pills together, morning and evening, except 
> > > > > > > > > > for the metoclopramide which was given ½ or so before 
> > > > > > > > > > meals. The rest I gave with the meals. I didn’t observe a 
> > > > > > > > > > problem with giving them together.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         You might also try 
> > > > > > > > > > baby food to get Nori to eat. Get the pureed kind (beef or 
> > > > > > > > > > chicken with or without vegetables), so it can be sucked up 
> > > > > > > > > > into a syringe. If my Zander wasn’t eating (and he wasn’t 
> > > > > > > > > > at the start of the medication regime), then I would use a 
> > > > > > > > > > syringe to get the baby food into him. Baby food is easy to 
> > > > > > > > > > digest and has good things in it. I would target – say – 
> > > > > > > > > > five 3 cc syringe-fulls at each feeding. I would boost the 
> > > > > > > > > > number of syringe-fulls if possible. Eventually, Zander 
> > > > > > > > > > started eating the baby food on his own, and then I 
> > > > > > > > > > graduated to moist food, and really, anything he wanted 
> > > > > > > > > > until he put the weight back on.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         I had a look at the 
> > > > > > > > > > picture you sent and Nori is adorable. I am crossing my 
> > > > > > > > > > fingers for you and for Nori. Keep us updated on her 
> > > > > > > > > > progress.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Amani
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         From: Felvtalk 
> > > > > > > > > > <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > > > > > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of 
> > > > > > > > > > Patricia Oliveira
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Sent: June 1, 2019 
> > > > > > > > > > 12:36 PM
> > > > > > > > > >                                         To: 
> > > > > > > > > > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > > > > > mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Subject: Re: 
> > > > > > > > > > [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Hi, Amani!
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Thanky you very 
> > > > > > > > > > much for you email!
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Nori was discharged 
> > > > > > > > > > from the hospital yesterday night. She is eating baby dry 
> > > > > > > > > > food. I tried canned but she didn´t accept so weel. 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Today i bought 
> > > > > > > > > > other kinds of canned, i'll try them hoping she likes some 
> > > > > > > > > > one.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Compound pharmacy 
> > > > > > > > > > must delivery stanozolol today.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Are there any 
> > > > > > > > > > precautions regarding medication schedules? Close or far to 
> > > > > > > > > > doxy, for example?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         This is Nori: 
> > > > > > > > > > https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html?fbclid=IwAR0cXMedtfi73B81pJI7QiYGwRTJf9VJp-JN7S_Tstb0ANeg0Hm4ObtFH_A
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Thank you!
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Patrícia
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                         Em qui, 30 de mai 
> > > > > > > > > > de 2019 às 20:52, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com 
> > > > > > > > > > mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > escreveu:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                                             > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             Sorry 
> > > > > > > > > > > Patricia – after going on and on in my last email, I 
> > > > > > > > > > > realized I hadn’t actually answered your question. I 
> > > > > > > > > > > think you can probably use the stanozolol with the 
> > > > > > > > > > > Doxycycline, without the prednisone, but prednisone 
> > > > > > > > > > > itself has properties which help to boost red cell 
> > > > > > > > > > > production. Try it out, keep close tabs on the 
> > > > > > > > > > > haematology results and see if you are getting a good 
> > > > > > > > > > > response on just Doxycycline and the Stanozolol. If not, 
> > > > > > > > > > > add the prednisone. You may find that this combination 
> > > > > > > > > > > assists with the FIP as well, as per my previous email.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                              
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             Amani
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                              
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             From: 
> > > > > > > > > > > Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > > > > > > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of 
> > > > > > > > > > > Patricia Oliveira
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             Sent: May 30, 
> > > > > > > > > > > 2019 12:56 PM
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             To: 
> > > > > > > > > > > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > > > > > > > > > > mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             Subject: 
> > > > > > > > > > > [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                              
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             Hi from 
> > > > > > > > > > > Brazil,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                              
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             I rescued a 
> > > > > > > > > > > very weak, dehydrated, extremely thin kitten.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             She's 
> > > > > > > > > > > hospitalized now. Her hematocrit was 8, had blood 
> > > > > > > > > > > transfusion which raised hematocrit to 22, now it is 19. 
> > > > > > > > > > > Low reticulocyte count.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             She has 
> > > > > > > > > > > difficulty walking, which we can not define if it is just 
> > > > > > > > > > > weakness or neurological. Already had a seizure.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             She also have 
> > > > > > > > > > > changes in her kidneys. It has been tested and is felv +
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             She is 
> > > > > > > > > > > receiving doxy and the hospital vets would like to 
> > > > > > > > > > > include prednisolone.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             However, as 
> > > > > > > > > > > it is not possible yet to rule out PIF, and the 
> > > > > > > > > > > medication I could use in the case of PIF does not work 
> > > > > > > > > > > if the cat received prednisolone, I am trying to avoid it.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             The 
> > > > > > > > > > > veterinarian agreed to prescribe stanozolol.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             Can it be 
> > > > > > > > > > > used without prednisolone, only with doxy she is already 
> > > > > > > > > > > receiving?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             Thank you!
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                              
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                             Patrícia
> > > > > > > > > > > 
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