Re: [Felvtalk] possible pos. BIG cat looking for forever home
Gosh, loved the way you were so kind to her. I think you just attacked her she probably won't listen to you now. You could have conveyed your opinion in a better manner she would probably listen better. I know I would. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Korruptakitty korruptaki...@gmail.com Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:20:23 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] possible pos. BIG cat looking for forever home ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw
Amen, and don't buy expensive furniture either. It is replaceable. The effects of declawing are far worse than house items! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:43:38 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw Folks around here laugh because I stop and move turtles across the road so they won't get hit. I even move snakes out of the way when working in the garden. Will admit that it is usually cool and they can't move too fast so copperheads, rattlers and spread heads get moved to the other side of the road out of harms way.I get frustrated with the raccoons because they can be so destructive, but they are cute so they are still around with the possums, deer, groundhog, squirrels and every other creature of the woods. Got must have made them for a purpose. I have always had dogs and cats for pets, even a ew chickens. Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: My mom didn't like cats either, but I know where I came from. My gramma loved dogs and cats and I spent a log of time with her. My Mom loved loved dogs, we had 12 collies living with us, but NO CATS!! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Edna, Can't say I blame you for not backing down on the declawing. My mom didn't even like cats enough to adopt one. I never figured out how I became such an animal lover, because I was always dragging home injured animals and Mom would say Get that filthy thing out of here. If my mom saw how many cats I have now she'd turn over in her grave. Lorrie On 10-04, Edna Taylor wrote: Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her NO because she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they were kittens and I say that's because you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom. That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and for what? furniture? pppft. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did. Declawing is cruel and inhumane :( Edna __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES
I did not say I agree with the links, it was just an example of people using snopes to declare whether or not something is true or false. And just for the record I am not prejudice (I know I'm not be accused ot this, I just want to point this out). I have many friends from all ethnicities. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:23:29 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES OK, so it appears the main thrust of this forwarded post isObama is not a US citizen. Really Still IMNSHO, there are people who would do ANYTHING to de-legitimize the fact that there is a black man in the White House. Ridiculous. The one true fact about the internet is that anybody can find validation for ANY wackadoo opinion. I bet you could find a scientific study affirming that cats are descended from dogs and that birds are the result of magic. There is a refutation of this forwarded stuff (which has been around since 2008, BTW) on About.com: http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/snopes_exposed.htm I'm sure you could find a refutation and charges of bias about About.com if you wanted to. The bottom line is, vote who you want to, but make *yourself* aware of the character of your candidate. Watch the person over a period of time; does he contradict himself from one week to the next? Does he promise more than he can deliver? Does he give details about his plans? Does he keep the promises he has made in the past? By these criteria, there's nobody in politics who truly stands up 100% to scrutiny. But unlike in horseshoes, in politics close does count. Have these people made an effort to act on the things they say they believe in? And are those beliefs based on the good of every single person in the United States, not just a select group? These are things each person has to decide for him- or herself. 2 more cents, Diane R. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 10:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES Hi ~ just my opinion, I had always wondered, Why should we believe Snopes.com? Who is checking on them to make sure they are telling the truth and have facts. I went on their site along time ago and there was nothing that convinced me they would know anymore than anyone else that knows how to work, or manipulate computers. The bottom line is if anyone ever REALLY wants to know the truth about anything said, or on-line, you have to research/investigate it yourself. IF I care enough, that is what I do. I learned that lesson the hard way many years ago.. IF anyone cares enough to go outside of Snopes.com to research the information below to see if it is true ~ your choice. Why would this person not be telling the truth anymore than Snopes.com? My point is why should anyone believe Snopes.com. Who are they really.and. the truth has to be searched for, not provided by a ghost on line. Just my two cents~ **Read below** (I did not write this, but it sure has me wondering) SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS. I HAVE FORWARDED SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WOULD WRITE ME BACK AND SAY SNOPES SAID IT WAS FALSE. Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any anti-Obama in it were negated by Snopes. I thought that was odd. Check this out. Snopes, Soros and the Supreme Court’s Kagan. We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes! Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'? We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple, but hadn't known it to be financed by Soros! Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros; a big time supporter of Obama! In our Search for the Truth department, we find what I have suspected on many occasions. I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed and Snopes said the email was false and there were no such dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what? Yep, you got it; Snopes Lied! Everyone of those dockets are there. So Here is what I wrote to Snopes: Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barack Obama dockets: The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false. I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to. I have long suspected
Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES
Glad you got the point of my post.. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 12:29:18 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES Most of the time, snopes puts links to their sources. I ALWAYS go to those to look for myself. Haven't found Snopes to be wrong but then I never say never...lol -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES Hi ~ just my opinion, I had always wondered, Why should we believe Snopes.com? Who is checking on them to make sure they are telling the truth and have facts. I went on their site along time ago and there was nothing that convinced me they would know anymore than anyone else that knows how to work, or manipulate computers. The bottom line is if anyone ever REALLY wants to know the truth about anything said, or on-line, you have to research/investigate it yourself. IF I care enough, that is what I do. I learned that lesson the hard way many years ago.. IF anyone cares enough to go outside of Snopes.com to research the information below to see if it is true ~ your choice. Why would this person not be telling the truth anymore than Snopes.com? My point is why should anyone believe Snopes.com. Who are they really.and. the truth has to be searched for, not provided by a ghost on line. Just my two cents~ **Read below** (I did not write this, but it sure has me wondering) SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS. I HAVE FORWARDED SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WOULD WRITE ME BACK AND SAY SNOPES SAID IT WAS FALSE. Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any anti-Obama in it were negated by Snopes. I thought that was odd. Check this out. Snopes, Soros and the Supreme Court’s Kagan. We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes! Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'? We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple, but hadn't known it to be financed by Soros! Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros; a big time supporter of Obama! In our Search for the Truth department, we find what I have suspected on many occasions. I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed and Snopes said the email was false and there were no such dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what? Yep, you got it; Snopes Lied! Everyone of those dockets are there. So Here is what I wrote to Snopes: Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barack Obama dockets: The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false. I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to. I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was really shocking. Thank You! I hope you will be much more truthful in the future, but I doubt it. That being said, I’ll bet you didn't know this: Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his citizenship. Now she may help rule on them. Folks, this is really ugly. Chicago Politics; and the beat goes on and on and on. Once again the US Senate sold us out! Now we know why Obama nominated Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court. Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama. She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship. He owed her big time. All of the requests were denied of course. They were never heard. It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it? The American people mean nothing any longer. It's all about payback time for those who compromised themselves to elect someone who really has no true right to even be there. Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket: You can look up some of these hearings and guess what? Elena Kagan is the attorney representing Obama! Check out these examples: http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-8857.htm http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-724.htm If you are not interested in justice or in truth, simply delete. However, if you hold sacred the freedoms
Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: Disproving nonsense about snopes Soros
Thanks for the heads up! I do appreciate it! Wow!! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 12:57:30 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: Disproving nonsense about snopes Soros Unfortunately, I had to erase that mailing so that this can go through. But you will see it in some of the links below, if you care to see that it's nonsense. Always double check, that's the problem, because there's a lot of untruth everywhere! If you go to all the fact checkers, believe me, you will see that all this is absolute nonsense! The mailing you sent is specifically mentioned as being pure fiction. Such urban legends are a dime a dozen, about anyone you can think of. http://www.goodsearch.com/search/web?utf8=%E2%9C%93keywords=George+Soros+connection+to+www.snopes.com%3F A whole page of Soros and snopes! Unfortunately, what someone sent you is truly right-wing conspiracy theories! This should thoroughly add to disproving that ridiculous stuff that goes around! No matter what my political leanings, I always check it out, no matter about whom this garbage is written. I can't imagine why anyone would write stuff like that, is that all they do? http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2012-09-28/story/fact-check-so-whos-checking-fact-finders-we-are http://zyzmog.blogspot.com/2012/04/snopes-and-george-soros-connection.html About snopes.com:, on snopes: http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp - which is proven to be correct when checked on other sources. Co-founder Greg Mikkelson (co-founder wife) is a registered Republican, and yet manages to remain unbiased about both parties.! http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/snopes.htm -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES Hi ~ just my opinion, I had always wondered, Why should we believe Snopes.com? Who is checking on them to make sure they are telling the truth and have facts. I went on their site along time ago and there was nothing that convinced me they would know anymore than anyone else that knows how to work, or manipulate computers. The bottom line is if anyone ever REALLY wants to know the truth about anything said, or on-line, you have to research/investigate it yourself. IF I care enough, that is what I do. I learned that lesson the hard way many years ago.. IF anyone cares enough to go outside of Snopes.com to research the information below to see if it is true ~ your choice. Why would this person not be telling the truth anymore than Snopes.com? My point is why should anyone believe Snopes.com. Who are they really.and. the truth has to be searched for, not provided by a ghost on line. Just my two cents~ **Read below** (I did not write this, but it sure has me wondering) SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products
Same thing happened to one of my cats with Revolution. But his fur did not come back white. It eventually grew back to his normal color. By the way, Interceptor is a pill for both dogs cats. I will no longer give topical applications for treatment. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:51:30 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION POINT. THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE. NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT. VET AGREED AND WE STOPPED IT. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds. The ones who are on the cat die. The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die. The ones who lay eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune to a product? Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to reproduce. But it's probably a good idea to switch products any way. Some are good for treating heavy flea infestations (Frontline Plus) and some have mange, worm prevention also, Revolution. I have not had good results with Revolution on fleas although it's great for preventing mange and sometimes reducing infestation of earmites. I find that Advantage is also good for heavy flea infestation but I haven't tried it yet. I have Frontline Plus right now and am on my way to treat the little lions, tigers and panthers. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: FeLV Talk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products Well I Googled before did again. The only thing I can find is that some cats are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so careful about dosages. The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid heartworm larvae - Moxidectin Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year. I've heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep the fleas from becoming immune to the meds. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt they've changed ingredients. I can't remember what ingredient it is in the dog multi that's bad for cats. I found the info online though so I know it's out there. Maybe what I read was wrong though. Find out what ingredient is bad and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that ingredient in there and tell him someone told you it was bad for cats. I'd go back and look it up if I had time but I've got to get back to work cause the CPAs will be here Monday to audit the books for my company. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats. Regular Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the Multi. Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats. Obviously the cat Multi is okay. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
My cats have been prescribed Interceptor for heartworms caused by mosquitos. We get them inside our house occasionally - but it only takes one bite. Granted dogs get heartworms more often but vets are seeing an increase in cats. My question is do you think Interceptor is safe for cats? Thanks! Lynda Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:08:27 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products For some reason, my pride has not had a problem with fleas or ticks. Don't know if the extreme heat killed them off or what. Now that we are getting some rain, mosquitos are getting to be a problem at dusk and early am so the cats only go out at midday. When we are all out, the mosquitos seem to prefer me to the cats. Found out that my old fashioned lye soap made with Jewelweed cuts the itching down. The heat killed my jewelweed off this year so I am going to make a rain garden for it. Then it will have enuogh moisture to grow good. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: That would be a lot of baths.And a huge emergency bill for my wounds. Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote: Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap and flea comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house bombs) It sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then putting greasy drops on my pets. From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products I bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area were building an immunity to it. I switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now with no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats or 9 treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is http://www.fleakiller.co/ I have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very satisfied customer. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] President
Thanks, Maureen. That was well stated you made very valid points. Thanks for your opinion :). By the way, I don't care for either candidate. All politicians lie I feel like I have to vote for the lesser of two evils, in my opinion. Thanks again, Maureen! L Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:52:28 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten
Mary, you can get your other cats the FeLV vaccine but it will have to be in 2 separate shots - 2 weeks apart, then you will have to wait a period of time before the shots work. I hope the kitten clears the virus, there is that chance. Blessings to all - Lynda Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:59:46 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten Thanks for taking this little one in. I mix all my FeLv positive cats with my negative cats. My negative cats are fully vaccinated. I've been mixing my cats for 13 years, on the advice of my former vet. I suggest you search the archives on mixing for more info. Swollen glands could just mean a treatable infection. Don't assume everything is FeLV related. Treat illness like you would with any other cat. Beth Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as soon as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and spayed. Last week, she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on trying to secure a trap to catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to get a trap to catch the mom yet. Last Thursday morning, I caught the kitten and took her to the vet, and she tested positive for feline leukemia. I was so devastated because I guess we all agreed we would take this new little gift on as she literally had landed in front of our door. She is so lively and playful so we are hopeful. Our vet is really kind and good. He did note that she might not live very long because she tested positive and has enlarged glands but we are hopeful. I am now emailing many groups who work with feral cats about getting a trap to catch the mom and have her fixed. Regarding kitten, we are keeping her, we are very sad but we will take care of her because she is so lovely and we want to offer her the best possible life until she is sick. If she is sick, we have read many reports which note that testing kitten for feline leukemia before 6months can usually show them as positive but it's only because of the mothers milk, etc...in them. We are also contacting groups to see if there is a person or a family with a cat or cats with feline leukemia who would want this new little bundle of joy just so she would have playmates. We feel awful because we have her in a bedroom, she cannot come to contact with our two other cats who are not FeLV positive. We have prepared the room for the kitten and have made a beautiful place for her. Lots of toys, kitty condo, obstacle courses so she can play around. My friend just told me about this group, so I am joining to find out more about our options, what to do next regarding our other cats, and best ways to take care of her. thanks, Mary Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition
Wow! I'm really surprised. I've had all my healthy cats on SD since they were kittens. One in particular loved it so much, he would inhale it. We had him on W/D. He was a big cat, a domestic orange white kitty - he was almost 4 ft long from the tip of his paw to the end on his tail (not stretched, just when he laid down). He weighed 30 lbs, and lived to be 15 1/2 yrs. My 15 year old dachshund has been on SD since 8 weeks old. She is still very active plays with my cat Kirby every chance she gets. I guess some do better on it more than others. I did try to switch her food to Nutro when she was about 5. She got sick every night. When I put her back on SD, she was fine. Just thought I would share my experience. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:08:30 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition
Yes, I neglected to mention that it was a very gradule transition so I was perplexed that she got sick every night. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: GRAS g...@optonline.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:04:04 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition When switching foods, it is very important to do it correctly. When cats have been used to one food, and when suddenly exposed to a new food, their enzymes are not used to it, often causing diarrhea and vomiting. You have to use both old and new food, slowly increasing the proportions of the new food. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of longhornf...@verizon.net Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition Wow! I'm really surprised. I've had all my healthy cats on SD since they were kittens. One in particular loved it so much, he would inhale it. We had him on W/D. He was a big cat, a domestic orange white kitty - he was almost 4 ft long from the tip of his paw to the end on his tail (not stretched, just when he laid down). He weighed 30 lbs, and lived to be 15 1/2 yrs. My 15 year old dachshund has been on SD since 8 weeks old. She is still very active plays with my cat Kirby every chance she gets. I guess some do better on it more than others. I did try to switch her food to Nutro when she was about 5. She got sick every night. When I put her back on SD, she was fine. Just thought I would share my experience. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:08:30 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition
I agree, too many carbs! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: KG BarnCats kgbarnc...@gmail.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:25:18 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet
:( my other dachshund is on Royal Canine Hepatic for her micro vascular dysplasia. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: pandie...@aol.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:46:21 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet
Will do, thank u!! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:23:23 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet
I'm not one to believe just cuz its expensive it has to be good. I went with my past experience with SD my pets do not have a problem being on it. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:25:50 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet People always believe that if something is expensive, it MUSDT be good! Well, it's the exact opposite. The only one I ever use is A-D when I have to syringe the food - and I add vitamins minerals to it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 5:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet On 08-31, Marcia wrote: I think what really bothers me about Science Diet is that it is a low quality food sold for a very high price AND the general public doesn't know any of this!! Science Diet is really crappy food, and it's wrong of vets to push it. Not many people read labels or understand what low quality food it is, and they buy it because their vets sell it. I'm sure vets get a kick back from the company. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens
My FeLV kitty had blood in his stools but he also had coccidia. Lynda Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: GRAS g...@optonline.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:11:54 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens Which test did he have? My new email address is:atia@gmail.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens Does it make a difference to how you love him? On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:59 PM, McKenna's wrote: We have a bot, belonged to the ahole neighbors who did not take care of him. We have known him since he was about 4-5 months old. Very long story short, we have him. Took him to the vet to get a check up, shots and neutered with the intention of making him a part of our family, along with 3 other cats. Found out he was Feluk+. After balling and researching this crap disease, we decided we loved him too much to let him go anywhere but here. He was approximately 1 year and 8 months old when he tested positive on 11/29/11. He is now almost 2 and a half. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if it would be beneficial to have him re-tested. Is there any chance he may have grown out of it since he was younger when he got it? He eats well and plays well. Sometimes, his stool contains a small amount of blood in it. We have had him tested for everything in an effort to find out why this is. The vet stated she does not believe the blood has anything to do with his FeLuk. He is currently on ID. So, does anyone think getting him tested again is a good idea? Melissa L. McKenna -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens Glad you left that vet. even if the cat were still positive, at that age she culd live a long and healthy life. Annie was 4 when she tested positive. She is now 8 going on 9 and the healiest, happiest cat I ever saw. Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: I recused a cat who was approx. 3 years old. She tested positive the first time for FELV but three months later she tested negative on the ELISA and the IFA. The first time she tested positive the vet hinted that I should euthanize her! I am so glad I did not listen to him. BTW, he is no longer my vet. Jannes From: Liz Lee Morris liz...@sccoast.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens Hi, I have a kitten who tested Felv positive at 5 weeks old on both the IFA and Elisa test. Both were done on the same day. He is so precious to me and I am so sad. The vet basically said he has no chance. I have been giving him lysine daily and lots of love. He is now 3 months old and is happy and appears healthy. Is it possible that he might be negative now? From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens Hang in there Lorrie. Sometimes they turn. Did you ever find the mom cat? If so, have her tested too. If she's young, she may turn negative in 90 days also. The ones a year or younger sometimes do. Even older cats can fight it off. I have a cat who was positive when rescued. He was about 2-3 years old, male. Had him for about 90 days in a separate room, retested with IFA test and again with the ELISA test and he was negative with both tests. I still have Moses. It has been 6 years now. Percy, a recent rescue tested positive for FIV and FeLv. Kept him in a room for 90 days also, retested. He's FIV+ but negative for FeLv so I moved him to my little FIV+ area. He's doing fine. Unfortunately, Smooch and Taco were also adult FeLv+ cats, stayed positive after 90 days. They roomed together, separate from my other cats for 2 years, died within a month of each other. Sad but at least they had those 2 years. Two years to a cat is like 5 years to us. Hugs to you and the kittens. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From:Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:38 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens I rescued a litter of four kittens two months ago. Had them tested yesterday for FelV and all 4 are positive! I am heartsick. However, I have a FelV section in my cageless shelter
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens
Hang in there, Lorrie. There is hope that they clear the virus. Keep us posted. Sending well wishes your way! Lynda Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 08:54:38 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens
It's possible, but to be safe I would test him again in a month. Its recommended to wait 90 days from the last positive test. Good luck! He does have a chance :) Lynda Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Liz Lee Morris liz...@sccoast.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:01:14 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Hi Lorrie, Thanks, Lorrie...your place sounds so nice that it's very tempting!! I wish you had a bed and breakfast, I would come often for visits! Let's see, 15 kittiesdivided by 3 = 5, that's 5 babiesa piece for your kids. Since you are not planning on going anywhere the next 15 yrs, I bet they could get a home. If not, I will check out your website and Maureen and I will gladly love on those furry babies 24/7. But I bet you will be around, you know your babies need you :0) I love on mine each day in case there is no tomorrow. Life is so precious and we all can take it for granted. Hugs to you and don't worry so much =) Lynda Sep 9, 2011 04:46:54 PM, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org wrote: Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when thetime comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan oncheckin' out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because itcould happen..For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All ofthem adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own. Myyoungest daughter has 11 cats, and the others have a several cats anddogs. I know they wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are greatkids, but they would have a problem taking all 15 of mine..Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you canlook up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WVjust ten miles from the Maryland border. Summers here are wonderfulwith temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter weget LOTS of snow.Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some hope for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats likestrange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).Lorrie On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote: See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your three kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And we're not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!! From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
