Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries
Belinda, I have no website in mind. Would it work for you if I compiled the list in an excel format and sent it to you as an attachment? I am thinking of doing it with catagories of state - city - name of sanctuary - contact information. Then some type of table which would incorporate the answers to the questionaire and then a comments section under that. It may take some playing with to make it fit together in a format that will be user friendly. Sue Belinda Sauro wrote: > I am a web designer and would be happy to do the web stuff. Do you > have a website to put it on in mind? I have several domain names we can > add a sub domain to if you need a website and webspace. > > -- > > Belinda > happiness is being owned by cats ... > > http://bemikitties.com > > http://BelindaSauro.com > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries
I am a web designer and would be happy to do the web stuff. Do you have a website to put it on in mind? I have several domain names we can add a sub domain to if you need a website and webspace. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries
I will compile the information and also contact the various shelters to get their input. How do you think this would best be done? Post the names of shelters to this list and I will take it from there? I do not have any talent at getting things on web pages, so if I make a list would anyone else be able to put it on an appropriate web page? To begin with I will make up a questionaire for shelters. I will post it here in a day or so for suggestions. Hopefully this will be a useful and interesting project! Sue Sharyl wrote: > Sounds like a good idea MC. Would be nice if there could be one contact > person everyone could send their thoughts to. Then that person could compile > the list of questions for everyone to review. > And no I'm not volunteering to be the compiler > Sharyl > > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, MaryChristine wrote: > > > From: MaryChristine > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:40 PM > > i've been mentioning for years that > > we, who are on the front lines of this, > > should write up a home visit protocol for sanctuaries, so > > that all the > > correct questions ARE asked > > > > each of us has different ideas of what is important, and > > it's so important > > for folks to recognize the difference between a sanctuary > > setting, and a > > forever spoiled-housecat home. so input is needed from both > > sides... > > > > if we could pull together something that was realistic, > > then it would be > > possible for local people to do some of the early footwork. > > we just CANNOT > > believe what a website shows, because anyone can make up a > > website. nor can > > judgments be made on places that don't have the time to > > make a fancy one-- > > > > we could make a thread that is specifically for the purpose > > of coming up > > with questions to ask, and things to look for, and make it > > a place to figure > > out how to do this finding-a-place thing easier and > > surer > > > > MC > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Carmen Conklin > > wrote: > > > > > I am a member of this list who doesn't get a chance to > > spend time > > > responding > > > to posts, but I would like to encourage those looking > > into sanctuaries to > > > be > > > sure to visit them if at all possible and that is a > > great idea about asking > > > what happens to the cats or the sanctuary if the > > founders die or can no > > > longer care for the animals. That is an essential part > > of questions to ask > > > all sanctuaries as there are a lot of them out there > > that make the rest of > > > us look 'bad' it seems. I am the director and > > co-founder of C & W Rustic > > > Hollow Shelter in Iowa and I know Laurie and MC and > > Sharyl are familiar > > > with > > > our work and we always tell people if they are > > thinking of taking any cat > > > to > > > a rescue or sanctuary they absolutely should go > > themselves or send someone > > > they know to check it out. We have solid plans to > > continue past us and our > > > board would make the decision at that point to not > > take any more cats > > > except > > > those who are planned to come here when it is time, or > > to go ahead and > > > continue the sanctuary as it is now. We have five > > buildings at this time > > > and > > > are building a sixth one this fall. But your > > ideas are so 'right on' about > > > visiting places and finding out the plans for their > > future. Great ideas. > > > Also, our FeLV areas have cats that are over 5 > > years and lost one this > > > summer who was 18 and had one other live to be 19 > > years ago. That's the > > > exception not the rule, however. Five years is a > > critical period for FeLV > > > kits and sometimes no matter how much you do for > > them, the end result is > > > the same. Our philosophy is it is 'quality of their > > lives, not the > > > quantity" > > > and that is what we strive for. Carmen and furballs at > > C & W Rustic Hollow > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >
Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries
Sounds like a good idea MC. Would be nice if there could be one contact person everyone could send their thoughts to. Then that person could compile the list of questions for everyone to review. And no I'm not volunteering to be the compiler Sharyl --- On Mon, 8/31/09, MaryChristine wrote: > From: MaryChristine > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:40 PM > i've been mentioning for years that > we, who are on the front lines of this, > should write up a home visit protocol for sanctuaries, so > that all the > correct questions ARE asked > > each of us has different ideas of what is important, and > it's so important > for folks to recognize the difference between a sanctuary > setting, and a > forever spoiled-housecat home. so input is needed from both > sides... > > if we could pull together something that was realistic, > then it would be > possible for local people to do some of the early footwork. > we just CANNOT > believe what a website shows, because anyone can make up a > website. nor can > judgments be made on places that don't have the time to > make a fancy one-- > > we could make a thread that is specifically for the purpose > of coming up > with questions to ask, and things to look for, and make it > a place to figure > out how to do this finding-a-place thing easier and > surer > > MC > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Carmen Conklin wrote: > > > I am a member of this list who doesn't get a chance to > spend time > > responding > > to posts, but I would like to encourage those looking > into sanctuaries to > > be > > sure to visit them if at all possible and that is a > great idea about asking > > what happens to the cats or the sanctuary if the > founders die or can no > > longer care for the animals. That is an essential part > of questions to ask > > all sanctuaries as there are a lot of them out there > that make the rest of > > us look 'bad' it seems. I am the director and > co-founder of C & W Rustic > > Hollow Shelter in Iowa and I know Laurie and MC and > Sharyl are familiar > > with > > our work and we always tell people if they are > thinking of taking any cat > > to > > a rescue or sanctuary they absolutely should go > themselves or send someone > > they know to check it out. We have solid plans to > continue past us and our > > board would make the decision at that point to not > take any more cats > > except > > those who are planned to come here when it is time, or > to go ahead and > > continue the sanctuary as it is now. We have five > buildings at this time > > and > > are building a sixth one this fall. But your > ideas are so 'right on' about > > visiting places and finding out the plans for their > future. Great ideas. > > Also, our FeLV areas have cats that are over 5 > years and lost one this > > summer who was 18 and had one other live to be 19 > years ago. That's the > > exception not the rule, however. Five years is a > critical period for FeLV > > kits and sometimes no matter how much you do for > them, the end result is > > the same. Our philosophy is it is 'quality of their > lives, not the > > quantity" > > and that is what we strive for. Carmen and furballs at > C & W Rustic Hollow > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue > (www.purebredcats.org) > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries
When I had this insane thought that I'd rehome my 2nd FELV + cat, the late great Romeo, I learned that its not easy--particularly over the phone. But the ONE thing that seemed to work real well is a vet reference. I found vets, or rather the office manager, pretty clear in their assessments. The scary thing is that there were a couple of people who asked about adopting him who sounded great on the phone but when I talked to their vet, the horror stories gave me the chills. And the other side of the coin is that those folks who got great vet references clearly were known to their vet for following up and giving good care. Of course, the problem is when you have a potential adopter who does not now have a pet or a current vet. But one thing I learned in doing postKatrina reunion work, if you get somebody to talk about their pet or a pet they used to have, you get a real good sense of their attitudes. If they don't include in their conversation all those little things about a pet that we all know about--those tiny little things that make our pet unique (what they like to eat, what they like to play with, where they sleep, what they do when they're mad, what funny sounds or gestures they make, etc.)--then they weren't too attentive and the potential for a future adoption dims. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries i've been mentioning for years that we, who are on the front lines of this, should write up a home visit protocol for sanctuaries, so that all the correct questions ARE asked each of us has different ideas of what is important, and it's so important for folks to recognize the difference between a sanctuary setting, and a forever spoiled-housecat home. so input is needed from both sides... if we could pull together something that was realistic, then it would be possible for local people to do some of the early footwork. we just CANNOT believe what a website shows, because anyone can make up a website. nor can judgments be made on places that don't have the time to make a fancy one-- we could make a thread that is specifically for the purpose of coming up with questions to ask, and things to look for, and make it a place to figure out how to do this finding-a-place thing easier and surer MC On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Carmen Conklin wrote: > I am a member of this list who doesn't get a chance to spend time > responding > to posts, but I would like to encourage those looking into sanctuaries to > be > sure to visit them if at all possible and that is a great idea about asking > what happens to the cats or the sanctuary if the founders die or can no > longer care for the animals. That is an essential part of questions to ask > all sanctuaries as there are a lot of them out there that make the rest of > us look 'bad' it seems. I am the director and co-founder of C & W Rustic > Hollow Shelter in Iowa and I know Laurie and MC and Sharyl are familiar > with > our work and we always tell people if they are thinking of taking any cat > to > a rescue or sanctuary they absolutely should go themselves or send someone > they know to check it out. We have solid plans to continue past us and our > board would make the decision at that point to not take any more cats > except > those who are planned to come here when it is time, or to go ahead and > continue the sanctuary as it is now. We have five buildings at this time > and > are building a sixth one this fall. But your ideas are so 'right on' about > visiting places and finding out the plans for their future. Great ideas. > Also, our FeLV areas have cats that are over 5 years and lost one this > summer who was 18 and had one other live to be 19 years ago. That's the > exception not the rule, however. Five years is a critical period for FeLV > kits and sometimes no matter how much you do for them, the end result is > the same. Our philosophy is it is 'quality of their lives, not the > quantity" > and that is what we strive for. Carmen and furballs at C & W Rustic Hollow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT
Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries
i've been mentioning for years that we, who are on the front lines of this, should write up a home visit protocol for sanctuaries, so that all the correct questions ARE asked each of us has different ideas of what is important, and it's so important for folks to recognize the difference between a sanctuary setting, and a forever spoiled-housecat home. so input is needed from both sides... if we could pull together something that was realistic, then it would be possible for local people to do some of the early footwork. we just CANNOT believe what a website shows, because anyone can make up a website. nor can judgments be made on places that don't have the time to make a fancy one-- we could make a thread that is specifically for the purpose of coming up with questions to ask, and things to look for, and make it a place to figure out how to do this finding-a-place thing easier and surer MC On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Carmen Conklin wrote: > I am a member of this list who doesn't get a chance to spend time > responding > to posts, but I would like to encourage those looking into sanctuaries to > be > sure to visit them if at all possible and that is a great idea about asking > what happens to the cats or the sanctuary if the founders die or can no > longer care for the animals. That is an essential part of questions to ask > all sanctuaries as there are a lot of them out there that make the rest of > us look 'bad' it seems. I am the director and co-founder of C & W Rustic > Hollow Shelter in Iowa and I know Laurie and MC and Sharyl are familiar > with > our work and we always tell people if they are thinking of taking any cat > to > a rescue or sanctuary they absolutely should go themselves or send someone > they know to check it out. We have solid plans to continue past us and our > board would make the decision at that point to not take any more cats > except > those who are planned to come here when it is time, or to go ahead and > continue the sanctuary as it is now. We have five buildings at this time > and > are building a sixth one this fall. But your ideas are so 'right on' about > visiting places and finding out the plans for their future. Great ideas. > Also, our FeLV areas have cats that are over 5 years and lost one this > summer who was 18 and had one other live to be 19 years ago. That's the > exception not the rule, however. Five years is a critical period for FeLV > kits and sometimes no matter how much you do for them, the end result is > the same. Our philosophy is it is 'quality of their lives, not the > quantity" > and that is what we strive for. Carmen and furballs at C & W Rustic Hollow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries
Thanks for writing about sanctuaries Carmen. You are better at articulating the major points than I was. Anyone traveling through northern IA should stop in for a visit at C&W. What really impressed me was the accomodations made for special needs kitties. Sharyl --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Carmen Conklin wrote: > From: Carmen Conklin > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 5:53 PM > I am a member of this list who > doesn't get a chance to spend time responding > to posts, but I would like to encourage those looking into > sanctuaries to be > sure to visit them if at all possible and that is a great > idea about asking > what happens to the cats or the sanctuary if the founders > die or can no > longer care for the animals. That is an essential part of > questions to ask > all sanctuaries as there are a lot of them out there that > make the rest of > us look 'bad' it seems. I am the director and > co-founder of C & W Rustic > Hollow Shelter in Iowa and I know Laurie and MC and Sharyl > are familiar with > our work and we always tell people if they are thinking of > taking any cat to > a rescue or sanctuary they absolutely should go themselves > or send someone > they know to check it out. We have solid plans to continue > past us and our > board would make the decision at that point to not take any > more cats except > those who are planned to come here when it is time, or to > go ahead and > continue the sanctuary as it is now. We have five buildings > at this time and > are building a sixth one this fall. But your ideas > are so 'right on' about > visiting places and finding out the plans for their future. > Great ideas. > Also, our FeLV areas have cats that are over 5 years > and lost one this > summer who was 18 and had one other live to be 19 years > ago. That's the > exception not the rule, however. Five years is a critical > period for FeLV > kits and sometimes no matter how much you do for > them, the end result is > the same. Our philosophy is it is 'quality of their lives, > not the quantity" > and that is what we strive for. Carmen and furballs at C > & W Rustic Hollow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries
I am a member of this list who doesn't get a chance to spend time responding to posts, but I would like to encourage those looking into sanctuaries to be sure to visit them if at all possible and that is a great idea about asking what happens to the cats or the sanctuary if the founders die or can no longer care for the animals. That is an essential part of questions to ask all sanctuaries as there are a lot of them out there that make the rest of us look 'bad' it seems. I am the director and co-founder of C & W Rustic Hollow Shelter in Iowa and I know Laurie and MC and Sharyl are familiar with our work and we always tell people if they are thinking of taking any cat to a rescue or sanctuary they absolutely should go themselves or send someone they know to check it out. We have solid plans to continue past us and our board would make the decision at that point to not take any more cats except those who are planned to come here when it is time, or to go ahead and continue the sanctuary as it is now. We have five buildings at this time and are building a sixth one this fall. But your ideas are so 'right on' about visiting places and finding out the plans for their future. Great ideas. Also, our FeLV areas have cats that are over 5 years and lost one this summer who was 18 and had one other live to be 19 years ago. That's the exception not the rule, however. Five years is a critical period for FeLV kits and sometimes no matter how much you do for them, the end result is the same. Our philosophy is it is 'quality of their lives, not the quantity" and that is what we strive for. Carmen and furballs at C & W Rustic Hollow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
