Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

2014-08-13 Thread dlgegg
THAT IS THE ONLY VACCINE I GET NOW AND I MAY STOP IT SINCE MY PRIDE DOES NOT 
GET INTO BITING FIGHTS, JUST SNARLING AND HISSING AND SWATTING.
 Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi Maya,
 
 I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one was
 positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against FeLV.
 But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you do
 decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is
 vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps.
 
 However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You could
 alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact
 you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or if
 they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites. We
 have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or
 rehoming their pets.
 
 I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat.
 But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row, and
 certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done
 it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for
 Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! 3
 
 Katherine
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
  command to our cat Yang who passed away.
 
  I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until
  they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really
  sick).  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another
  cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised,
  etc.  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.
 
  I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is
  passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
  contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running
  the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from
  it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
  negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing
  another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
  Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months
  or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
   ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.
 
  What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
 
  --
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  B1 377B, x32320
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  Biology GSA Vice Chair
  GSA Director At-Large
  University of Waterloo
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

2014-08-12 Thread Maya D'Alessio
Thanks everyone,

Susan, good points on contacting local rescues.  My partner doesn't seem to
want to take another positive cat in (too much heartbreak maybe?), which I
do understand.

Your little one might test negative in six months, so don't lose hope!


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Susan Grimes sweet2bcota...@att.net
wrote:

 Hi Maya,
 My Sophia was just diagnosed with FeLV last week.  I have 7 other cats who
 have been living with Sophia since I saved her hours from being eu'd.  She
 was 8 weeks old when I got her and now she is 16+ weeks old.  My cats age
 from one to nine years old.  My one year old Jacob has loved, played, and
 groomed Sophia from her mouth to the other end.  Everyone is fixed and has
 had their vaccinations.  My cats are 100% indoors and everyone gets along
 good.  I plan to have Jacob tested since he has so much close contact and
 hopefully he will be FeLV- then everyone will get a booster just for good
 measure.  I am praying everyone's vaccines and immune systems are working
 good, but no one will be isolated I will watch the older ones and treat
 symptomatically then test as needed.

 I too have been in rescue for 3 yrs and you can check with local groups
 and if you let them know you are looking for a + cat they will keep watch.
 They usually have daily contact with local shelters in large cities and
 will know if a + cat comes in.  You can also look on Petfinders.com and can
 find local rescue groups too.

 Best of luck,
 Susan  Sophia


   On Monday, August 11, 2014 4:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
 command to our cat Yang who passed away.

 I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until
 they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really
 sick).  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another
 cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised,
 etc.  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.

 I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is
 passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
 contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running
 the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from
 it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
 negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing
 another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
 Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months
 or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.

 What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?

 --
 Maya D'Alessio
 PhD student
 B1 377B, x32320
 Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator
 Biology GSA Vice Chair
 GSA Director At-Large
 University of Waterloo

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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

2014-08-12 Thread dlgegg
I have mixed FELV positive cats with negatives for at least 8 years and no 
problems.  My vet said that as long as the negatives were vaccinated, all would 
be okay.  In the last 2 years, no one has received any vaccinations and no 
problems.  Could be that as Lance said, the adults have developed an immunity.  
All 4 of my cats are healthy.  I lost 3 last year due to old age (17 years), 
not felv..

 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 There are many anecdotes on the FeLV lists of negatives accidentally mixing 
 with positives and never getting sick or testing positive. I saw this happen 
 with several of our own cats. There are posts from guardians who mixed 
 healthy, vaccinated negatives with positives, and the negatives stayed 
 negative.
 
 We know that adult cats have a certain natural resistance to the virus and 
 are less likely to be persistently infected. We do not know how strong this 
 resistance is, and for all we know, it might vary from cat to cat.
 
 Vaccination works well. It does not prevent 100% of infections. I’ve seen 
 80-85% as a figure, but I’m not sure that AAFP or any other official 
 organization has given a number. 
 
 I would be comfortable mixing if the negative was a healthy adult and once 
 the negative was vaccinated. I believe the vaccine takes a little time to 
 kick in, too, and it might require a booster if the cat has not been 
 previously vaccinated. Your vet will know. I would also consider using a 
 PureVax vaccine, as it is (in theory) less likely to cause a fibrosarcoma to 
 form at the vaccination site. Your vet will be able to tell you far more 
 about that than I could. 
 
 Best wishes for you and Merlot,
 
 Lance
 
 On Aug 11, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in 
  command to our cat Yang who passed away.
  
  I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until they 
  are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really sick).  
  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another cat in 
  to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised, etc.  
  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.
  
  I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is 
  passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased 
  contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running 
  the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from 
  it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test 
  negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing 
  another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for 
  Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months 
  or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.  
  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.
  
  What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
  
  -- 
  Maya D'Alessio
  PhD student
  B1 377B, x32320
  Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator
  Biology GSA Vice Chair
  GSA Director At-Large
  University of Waterloo
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[Felvtalk] FELV contagious

2014-08-11 Thread Maya D'Alessio
So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
command to our cat Yang who passed away.

I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until they
are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really sick).
 She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another cat in
to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised, etc.
 This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.

I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is
passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running
the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from
it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing
another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months
or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
 ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.

What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?

-- 
Maya D'Alessio
PhD student
B1 377B, x32320
Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator
Biology GSA Vice Chair
GSA Director At-Large
University of Waterloo
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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

2014-08-11 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Maya,

I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one was
positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against FeLV.
But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you do
decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is
vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps.

However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You could
alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact
you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or if
they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites. We
have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or
rehoming their pets.

I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat.
But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row, and
certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done
it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for
Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! 3

Katherine


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
 command to our cat Yang who passed away.

 I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until
 they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really
 sick).  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another
 cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised,
 etc.  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.

 I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is
 passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
 contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running
 the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from
 it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
 negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing
 another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
 Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months
 or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.

 What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?

 --
 Maya D'Alessio
 PhD student
 B1 377B, x32320
 Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator
 Biology GSA Vice Chair
 GSA Director At-Large
 University of Waterloo

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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

2014-08-11 Thread Lance
There are many anecdotes on the FeLV lists of negatives accidentally mixing 
with positives and never getting sick or testing positive. I saw this happen 
with several of our own cats. There are posts from guardians who mixed healthy, 
vaccinated negatives with positives, and the negatives stayed negative.

We know that adult cats have a certain natural resistance to the virus and are 
less likely to be persistently infected. We do not know how strong this 
resistance is, and for all we know, it might vary from cat to cat.

Vaccination works well. It does not prevent 100% of infections. I’ve seen 
80-85% as a figure, but I’m not sure that AAFP or any other official 
organization has given a number. 

I would be comfortable mixing if the negative was a healthy adult and once the 
negative was vaccinated. I believe the vaccine takes a little time to kick in, 
too, and it might require a booster if the cat has not been previously 
vaccinated. Your vet will know. I would also consider using a PureVax vaccine, 
as it is (in theory) less likely to cause a fibrosarcoma to form at the 
vaccination site. Your vet will be able to tell you far more about that than I 
could. 

Best wishes for you and Merlot,

Lance

On Aug 11, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in 
 command to our cat Yang who passed away.
 
 I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until they 
 are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really sick).  
 She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another cat in to 
 the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised, etc.  This 
 contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.
 
 I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is 
 passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased contact, 
 but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running the place 
 she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from it, and she 
 had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test negative for FELV 
 recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing another cat to the 
 virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for Merlot who is lonely.  I 
 was thining maybe I would consider (in six months or so), trying to take in a 
 cat who was not going to find another home.  ie. an older cat, or a cat from 
 a society that they were about to put down.
 
 What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
 
 -- 
 Maya D'Alessio
 PhD student
 B1 377B, x32320
 Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator
 Biology GSA Vice Chair
 GSA Director At-Large
 University of Waterloo
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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

2014-08-11 Thread Susan Grimes
Hi Maya,
My Sophia was just diagnosed with FeLV last week.  I have 7 other cats who have 
been living with Sophia since I saved her hours from being eu'd.  She was 8 
weeks old when I got her and now she is 16+ weeks old.  My cats age from one to 
nine years old.  My one year old Jacob has loved, played, and groomed Sophia 
from her mouth to the other end.  Everyone is fixed and has had their 
vaccinations.  My cats are 100% indoors and everyone gets along good.  I plan 
to have Jacob tested since he has so much close contact and hopefully he will 
be FeLV- then everyone will get a booster just for good measure.  I am praying 
everyone's vaccines and immune systems are working good, but no one will be 
isolated I will watch the older ones and treat symptomatically then test as 
needed.

I too have been in rescue for 3 yrs and you can check with local groups and if 
you let them know you are looking for a + cat they will keep watch.  They 
usually have daily contact with local shelters in large cities and will know if 
a + cat comes in.  You can also look on Petfinders.com and can find local 
rescue groups too.

Best of luck,
Susan  Sophia 


On Monday, August 11, 2014 4:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:
  


So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in command 
to our cat Yang who passed away.

I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until they are 
adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really sick).  She 
thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another cat in to the 
house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised, etc.  This contrasts 
with what my vet says - no other cat contact. 

I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is 
passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased contact, 
but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running the place 
she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from it, and she 
had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test negative for FELV 
recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing another cat to the 
virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for Merlot who is lonely.  I 
was thining maybe I would consider (in six months or so), trying to take in a 
cat who was not going to find another home.  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a 
society that they were about to put down.


What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
-- 

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PhD student
B1 377B, x32320
Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator 
Biology GSA Vice Chair
GSA Director At-Large
University of Waterloo 
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