Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty
FYI: Here's another perspective on the situation: From: X [name removed]Sent: Tuesday,February 28, 2012 3:51 PMSubject: Craig Grant, Director of Caboodle Ranch The below info isfound at this link: https://www.facebook.com/caboodleranch.savethekitties Yesterday, when I heard of the investigation and rescue intervention at Caboodle Ranch, my first thought was that Craig Grant was just another compassionate fool who got in over his head because he couldn't turn away a cat with nowhere to go. The below information has changed my perception of him. No decent individual would let animals in his custody go without needed medical care, food and clean living conditions while making frivolous expenditures on himself from 501.3c funds that should have been spent on the cats. Financial Fraud For an overview of embezzlement and financial fraud click here here. Records obtained through the court indicate that operator, Craig Grant, is embezzling corporate funds (donations) for personal use. There are numerous transactions on their 501(c) not-for-profit account fortransactions such as: airline flights, trip to Vegas, tickets to Daytona 500, hotels, online clothing orders, online magazine orders, gifts, etc. The list goes on and on. Craig admitted in court records that he does not routinely record cash donations. It's been reported that Craig has used cash to take people out to eat. In interviews Craig Grant has stated he gets a $1000/month personal salary. Therefore, any personal expenses should be paid for out of HIS salary. It is unlawful for any transactions for personal use to come out of a not-for-profit corporate account. All donations/income MUST be used for the care of cats. The IRS andAttorney General have been notified. - Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=Y3BxMzc0NQ%3D%3D Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 19:34:37 -0600 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty I have asked my vet to tak t me if he thinks I am becoming a hoarder. I wish I had a mllion dollars, I would have such a rescue place for all animals, but until then, I feel that my limit is 7 cats both fnancially and physically. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: The people I'm talking about did spay/neuter had vet references. They had good intentions, but the hoarding mentality took over got out of hand. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty Sadly, there may be some, but I have yet to come across a “rescuer/hoarder” in the 20 years of being involved in cat rescuein Southern CT. There are probably some hoarder types; a typical symptom would be someone who doesn’t spay/neuter nor provides veterinary care….therefore, they may not be the “typical” hoarders as we know them. The CT woman was definitely not one! She was extremely well-respected, a caring and capable woman whose life and the lives of the cats in her care have been ruined forever, thanks to overzealous officials and a disgruntled person! The state didn’t even allow her home-visit vet to vouch for the health and treatment that he prescribed for cats in her care to testify on her behalf! I can tell you that there’s a hidden agenda in CT to put all small cat rescues out of business to allow stray, feral, abandoned cats to be rounded up and killed! BTW, we are NO-KILL, no cages; in addition to cats in home surroundings, we also have several cat condos and enclosed outdoor runs in warmer months. Natalie From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty I don't know the full story of the woman in CT, so I can't comment on that, but I've seen people who are heads of rescue organizations who are hoarders. Just because someone has a title does not mean they are OK. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty
Thank you for sending this. It makes it clear that this isn't just a case of a mere getting over his head situation.he's a crook, plain and simple. I'm glad that I never came across anyone like that, yet..Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of C PQ Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 8:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty FYI: Here's another perspective on the situation: From: X [name removed] Sent: Tuesday,February 28, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Craig Grant, Director of Caboodle Ranch The below info isfound at this link: https://www.facebook.com/caboodleranch.savethekitties Yesterday, when I heard of the investigation and rescue intervention at Caboodle Ranch, my first thought was that Craig Grant was just another compassionate fool who got in over his head because he couldn't turn away a cat with nowhere to go. The below information has changed my perception of him. No decent individual would let animals in his custody go without needed medical care, food and clean living conditions while making frivolous expenditures on himself from 501.3c funds that should have been spent on the cats. Financial Fraud For an overview of embezzlement and financial fraud click here here. Records obtained through the court indicate that operator, Craig Grant, is embezzling corporate funds (donations) for personal use. There are numerous transactions on their 501(c) not-for-profit account fortransactions such as: airline flights, trip to Vegas, tickets to Daytona 500, hotels, online clothing orders, online magazine orders, gifts, etc. The list goes on and on. Craig admitted in court records that he does not routinely record cash donations. It's been reported that Craig has used cash to take people out to eat. In interviews Craig Grant has stated he gets a $1000/month personal salary. Therefore, any personal expenses should be paid for out of HIS salary. It is unlawful for any transactions for personal use to come out of a not-for-profit corporate account. All donations/income MUST be used for the care of cats. The IRS andAttorney General have been notified. - Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=Y3BxMzc0NQ%3D%3D Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 19:34:37 -0600 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty I have asked my vet to tak t me if he thinks I am becoming a hoarder. I wish I had a mllion dollars, I would have such a rescue place for all animals, but until then, I feel that my limit is 7 cats both fnancially and physically. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: The people I'm talking about did spay/neuter had vet references. They had good intentions, but the hoarding mentality took over got out of hand. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty Sadly, there may be some, but I have yet to come across a rescuer/hoarder in the 20 years of being involved in cat rescuein Southern CT. There are probably some hoarder types; a typical symptom would be someone who doesn't spay/neuter nor provides veterinary care..therefore, they may not be the typical hoarders as we know them. The CT woman was definitely not one! She was extremely well-respected, a caring and capable woman whose life and the lives of the cats in her care have been ruined forever, thanks to overzealous officials and a disgruntled person! The state didn't even allow her home-visit vet to vouch for the health and treatment that he prescribed for cats in her care to testify on her behalf! I can tell you that there's a hidden agenda in CT to put all small cat rescues out of business to allow stray, feral, abandoned cats to be rounded up and killed! BTW, we are NO-KILL, no cages; in addition to cats in home surroundings, we also have several cat condos and enclosed outdoor runs in warmer months. Natalie From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty I don't know the full story of the woman in CT, so I can't comment on that, but I've seen people who are heads of rescue organizations who are hoarders. Just because someone has a title does not mean they are OK. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
[Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty
Sadly, there may be some, but I have yet to come across a “rescuer/hoarder” in the 20 years of being involved in cat rescue in Southern CT. There are probably some hoarder types; a typical symptom would be someone who doesn’t spay/neuter nor provides veterinary care….therefore, they may not be the “typical” hoarders as we know them. The CT woman was definitely not one! She was extremely well-respected, a caring and capable woman whose life and the lives of the cats in her care have been ruined forever, thanks to overzealous officials and a disgruntled person! The state didn’t even allow her home-visit vet to vouch for the health and treatment that he prescribed for cats in her care to testify on her behalf! I can tell you that there’s a hidden agenda in CT to put all small cat rescues out of business to allow stray, feral, abandoned cats to be rounded up and killed! BTW, we are NO-KILL, no cages; in addition to cats in home surroundings, we also have several cat condos and enclosed outdoor runs in warmer months. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty I don't know the full story of the woman in CT, so I can't comment on that, but I've seen people who are heads of rescue organizations who are hoarders. Just because someone has a title does not mean they are OK. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty
The people I'm talking about did spay/neuter had vet references. They had good intentions, but the hoarding mentality took over got out of hand. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty Sadly, there may be some, but I have yet to come across a “rescuer/hoarder” in the 20 years of being involved in cat rescuein Southern CT. There are probably some hoarder types; a typical symptom would be someone who doesn’t spay/neuter nor provides veterinary care….therefore, they may not be the “typical” hoarders as we know them. The CT woman was definitely not one! She was extremely well-respected, a caring and capable woman whose life and the lives of the cats in her care have been ruined forever, thanks to overzealous officials and a disgruntled person! The state didn’t even allow her home-visit vet to vouch for the health and treatment that he prescribed for cats in her care to testify on her behalf! I can tell you that there’s a hidden agenda in CT to put all small cat rescues out of business to allow stray, feral, abandoned cats to be rounded up and killed! BTW, we are NO-KILL, no cages; in addition to cats in home surroundings, we also have several cat condos and enclosed outdoor runs in warmer months. Natalie From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty I don't know the full story of the woman in CT, so I can't comment on that, but I've seen people who are heads of rescue organizations who are hoarders. Just because someone has a title does not mean they are OK. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty
I rescued 26 cats from a hoarder in an apt here. Most were fixed. Some even had had extensive medical procedures in the past with lengthy vet records. The problem with hoarding is that people start with good intentions, but don't know when to stop. I know she loved the cats, she couldn't stop taking more. The cats started needing medicals attention she couldn't afford. Some of the cats were recently acquired. One had an eye bulging out of it's socket. Some had URI's. You could smell urine from the street. It is a mental problem that needs to be treated. Arresting them fining isn't going to solve the problem. It is sad for the humans animals. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty When will people learn that just because something is in the paper does not make it so? If people are spaying and neutering, they probably are not hoarders. I did not realize this list had gotten so judgemental. Ugh. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: The people I'm talking about did spay/neuter had vet references. They had good intentions, but the hoarding mentality took over got out of hand. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty Sadly, there may be some, but I have yet to come across a “rescuer/hoarder” in the 20 years of being involved in cat rescuein Southern CT. There are probably some hoarder types; a typical symptom would be someone who doesn’t spay/neuter nor provides veterinary care….therefore, they may not be the “typical” hoarders as we know them. The CT woman was definitely not one! She was extremely well-respected, a caring and capable woman whose life and the lives of the cats in her care have been ruined forever, thanks to overzealous officials and a disgruntled person! The state didn’t even allow her home-visit vet to vouch for the health and treatment that he prescribed for cats in her care to testify on her behalf! I can tell you that there’s a hidden agenda in CT to put all small cat rescues out of business to allow stray, feral, abandoned cats to be rounded up and killed! BTW, we are NO-KILL, no cages; in addition to cats in home surroundings, we also have several cat condos and enclosed outdoor runs in warmer months. Natalie From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty I don't know the full story of the woman in CT, so I can't comment on that, but I've seen people who are heads of rescue organizations who are hoarders. Just because someone has a title does not mean they are OK. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org/ Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty
I have asked my vet to tak t me if he thinks I am becoming a hoarder. I wish I had a mllion dollars, I would have such a rescue place for all animals, but until then, I feel that my limit is 7 cats both fnancially and physically. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: The people I'm talking about did spay/neuter had vet references. They had good intentions, but the hoarding mentality took over got out of hand. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty Sadly, there may be some, but I have yet to come across a “rescuer/hoarder” in the 20 years of being involved in cat rescuein Southern CT. There are probably some hoarder types; a typical symptom would be someone who doesn’t spay/neuter nor provides veterinary care….therefore, they may not be the “typical” hoarders as we know them. The CT woman was definitely not one! She was extremely well-respected, a caring and capable woman whose life and the lives of the cats in her care have been ruined forever, thanks to overzealous officials and a disgruntled person! The state didn’t even allow her home-visit vet to vouch for the health and treatment that he prescribed for cats in her care to testify on her behalf! I can tell you that there’s a hidden agenda in CT to put all small cat rescues out of business to allow stray, feral, abandoned cats to be rounded up and killed! BTW, we are NO-KILL, no cages; in addition to cats in home surroundings, we also have several cat condos and enclosed outdoor runs in warmer months. Natalie From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty I don't know the full story of the woman in CT, so I can't comment on that, but I've seen people who are heads of rescue organizations who are hoarders. Just because someone has a title does not mean they are OK. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
