Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

2012-10-12 Thread dlgegg
I WILL BE SO GLAD WHEN THE ELECTION IS OVER.  TIRED OF TV ADDS, PHONE CALLS AND 
BILLBOARDS.

 cindy reasoner  wrote: 
> I disagree. Please can we just end all the political talk.
>  
> Cindy Reasoner
>  
>  
>  
> --- On Wed, 10/10/12, GRAS  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: GRAS 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 2:10 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a 
> platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling 
> any candidate horrible names!
>  
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> cindy reasoner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:19 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic.  I think 
> if more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job 
> instead of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot 
> better.  I have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President.  I don't 
> agree with getting on here and bashing another party.   I really don't think 
> this is the forum for politics.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Cindy Reasoner
> 
> --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Maureen Olvey 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AM
> 
> 
> 
> I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session.  
> We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's 
> no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your 
> mind.  And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can 
> disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal.  It is interesting to hear 
> the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not 
> true like the supposed "war on women."  Mitt and Paul do not have the 
> complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans 
> wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway.  But it's okay with me 
> if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate 
> all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle."  I think we've worn the 
> topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about 
> Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about
>  Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and 
> trying to get the death penalty for them.  Just kidding - well kind of.  
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
> > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400
> > From: at...@optonline.net
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
> > 
> > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct!
> > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned
> > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine
> > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V.
> > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will
> > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but
> > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to
> > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with
> > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status
> > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to
> > mention a few.
> > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from
> > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even
> > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do
> > not meddle in people's bedrooms!
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> > Diane Rosenfeldt
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
> >

Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

2012-10-12 Thread cindy reasoner
I disagree. Please can we just end all the political talk.
 
Cindy Reasoner
 
 
 
--- On Wed, 10/10/12, GRAS  wrote:


From: GRAS 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 2:10 PM







I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a 
platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling any 
candidate horrible names!
 
 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy 
reasoner
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
 





I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic.  I think if 
more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job instead 
of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot better.  I 
have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President.  I don't agree with 
getting on here and bashing another party.   I really don't think this is the 
forum for politics.

 

 

Cindy Reasoner

--- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey  wrote:


From: Maureen Olvey 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AM



I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session.  We 
Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no 
point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your 
mind.  And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can 
disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal.  It is interesting to hear the 
Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true 
like the supposed "war on women."  Mitt and Paul do not have the complete 
authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go 
along with these kinds of things anyway.  But it's okay with me if that's what 
you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when 
we are not in the "inner circle."  I think we've worn the topic out and nothing 
you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will 
never change your minds about
 Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying 
to get the death penalty for them.  Just kidding - well kind of.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400
> From: at...@optonline.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
> 
> Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct!
> Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned
> Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine
> numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V.
> Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will
> make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but
> promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to
> people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with
> pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status
> of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to
> mention a few.
> An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from
> Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even
> though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do
> not meddle in people's bedrooms!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Diane Rosenfeldt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
> 
> Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of
> the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact
> that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and
> has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've
> read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover
> from, and that was with Congress more or less working together.
> 
> Diane R.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lisa Conner
> Sent: Tuesday

Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

2012-10-11 Thread dlgegg
I agree.  As a wise person once said, "We agree to disagree but not to kill 
each other over it,"


 Maureen Olvey wrote: > > I really think this discussion has turned to a 
Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you 
guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of 
discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes 
America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is 
interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some 
things are just not true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not 
have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many 
Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay 
with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently 
debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn 
the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about 
Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's 
talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death 
penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. > > “I am not interested to know 
whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or 
doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of 
my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity 
without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 
-0400 > > From: at...@optonline.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > > > Diane R., not only are you 
pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul 
intend to do: Get rid of Planned > > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, 
has helped a friend of mine > > numerous times because she can't afford to go 
to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, 
adopt "personhood" which will > > make certain birth control illegal and 
criminal, overturn Obamacare but > > promises to keep pre-existing conditions 
clause (although it applies ONLY to > > people who have had long-time 
insurance, not for new applicants with > > pre-existing conditions!) and women 
will automatically be back at the status > > of having pre-existing conditions 
just because they're women,just to > > mention a few. > > An American 
friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from > > Sweden - 
people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even > > though 
many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do > > not 
meddle in people's bedrooms! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: 
Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > Diane 
Rosenfeldt > > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM > > To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President > > > > Um, I 
don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of > > the 
problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact > > 
that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and > > 
has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've > > 
read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover > > 
from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. > > > > Diane 
R. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > Lisa Conner > > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > 
Subject: [Felvtalk] President > > > > Ok.. you are profiling and that is just 
plain wrong:) If we have the past > > 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will 
be a mass revolt. > > Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our 
country, the division of > > our country, we have to take a chance on a new 
person:) It can't get any > > worse. That is my 2 cents! > > > > Now , back to 
our Felv + kitties. I am fairly new to this group and joined > > because of 
losing my cat, Prancer. He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy > > life. Then 
bang, like a whirlwind, we lost him. So my two questions to this > > group is 
the following: > > > > > > > > > > 
___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > 
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > 




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Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

2012-10-10 Thread Maureen Olvey

But some of the statements about the platform itself were incorrect.  So the 
platform was presented unfairly in some cases and that can be very annoying 
too.  Maybe more so than actually bashing the candidate.  Not that you or 
anyone else intentionally said things about the platform which were incorrect.  
There are things I've heard about the Democratic platform that I'm sure aren't 
true so it does happen but it's hard to debate in this forum.  It would just 
generate a whole bunch of other discussions that wouldn't go 
anywhere because getting to the truth regarding politics just doesn't happen.  
Truth and politics are two words that should never be used in the same 
sentence.  Also, I worry that if a person with a FeLV + cat joined the group 
right this minute and heard all this talk about the Republican platform and 
he/she happened to be a Republican it would be hard for them to stay on the 
list and get information that might help the cat.  Just seems fruitless and 
possibly detrimental to continue the discussions.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:10:16 -0400
From: g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic:   President

I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a 
platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling any 
candidate horrible names!  From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President I don't post very often but had to 
put my 2 cents in on this topic.  I think if more people would vote for the 
person they think would do the best job instead of getting hung up on the party 
this country would be a heck of alot better.  I have voted for Republicans and 
Democrats for President.  I don't agree with getting on here and bashing 
another party.   I really don't think this is the forum for politics.  Cindy 
Reasoner

--- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey  wrote:
From: Maureen Olvey 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AMI really think this discussion has 
turned to a Republican bashing session.  We Republicans disagree with almost 
everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because 
no amount of discussion will change your mind.  And that's okay because that's 
what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of 
reprisal.  It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you 
believe but some things are just not true like the supposed "war on women."  
Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things 
mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things 
anyway.  But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think 
we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner 
circle."  I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will 
make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds 
about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and 
trying to get the death penalty for them.  Just kidding - well kind of.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain> 
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400
> From: at...@optonline.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
> 
> Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct!
> Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned
> Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine
> numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V.
> Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will
> make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but
> promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to
> people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with
> pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status
> of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to
> m

Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

2012-10-10 Thread GRAS
I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a 
platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling any 
candidate horrible names!

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy 
reasoner
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

 


I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic.  I think if 
more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job instead 
of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot better.  I 
have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President.  I don't agree with 
getting on here and bashing another party.   I really don't think this is the 
forum for politics.

 

 

Cindy Reasoner

--- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey  wrote:


From: Maureen Olvey 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AM

I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session.  We 
Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no 
point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. 
 And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree 
without feeling the threat of reprisal.  It is interesting to hear the 
Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true 
like the supposed "war on women."  Mitt and Paul do not have the complete 
authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go 
along with these kinds of things anyway.  But it's okay with me if that's what 
you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when 
we are not in the "inner circle."  I think we've worn the topic out and nothing 
you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will 
never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else 
like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them.  Just kidding 
- well kind of.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400
> From: at...@optonline.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
> 
> Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct!
> Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned
> Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine
> numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V.
> Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will
> make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but
> promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to
> people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with
> pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status
> of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to
> mention a few.
> An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from
> Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even
> though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do
> not meddle in people's bedrooms!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Diane Rosenfeldt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
> 
> Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of
> the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact
> that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and
> has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've
> read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover
> from, and that was with Congress more or less working together.
> 
> Diane R.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lisa Conner
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] President
> 
> Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past
> 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt.
> Seriously

Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

2012-10-10 Thread cindy reasoner
I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic.  I think if 
more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job instead 
of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot better.  I 
have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President.  I don't agree with 
getting on here and bashing another party.   I really don't think this is the 
forum for politics.
 
 
Cindy Reasoner

--- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey  wrote:


From: Maureen Olvey 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AM






I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session.  We 
Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no 
point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your 
mind.  And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can 
disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal.  It is interesting to hear the 
Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true 
like the supposed "war on women."  Mitt and Paul do not have the complete 
authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go 
along with these kinds of things anyway.  But it's okay with me if that's what 
you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when 
we are not in the "inner circle."  I think we've worn the topic out and nothing 
you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will 
never change your minds about
 Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying 
to get the death penalty for them.  Just kidding - well kind of.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain



> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400
> From: at...@optonline.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
> 
> Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct!
> Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned
> Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine
> numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V.
> Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will
> make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but
> promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to
> people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with
> pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status
> of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to
> mention a few.
> An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from
> Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even
> though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do
> not meddle in people's bedrooms!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Diane Rosenfeldt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
> 
> Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of
> the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact
> that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and
> has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've
> read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover
> from, and that was with Congress more or less working together.
> 
> Diane R.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lisa Conner
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] President
> 
> Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past
> 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt.
> Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country, the division of
> our country, we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any
> worse. That is my 2 cents!
> 
> Now , back to our Felv + kitties. I am fairly new to this group and joined
> because of losing my cat, Prancer. He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy
> life. Then bang, like a

Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

2012-10-10 Thread Terri Brown
Thank you, Maureen.  You said it better than I would have. (And I want to 
publicly thank James the list owner for asking that this OT thread stop.)

I'm here for the critters -- even though I no longer have any FeLV+ cats.  I've 
been a member here since 1998.  I don't want to have to leave the list.

Terri B, Trenton, NJ

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Maureen Olvey<mailto:molvey...@hotmail.com> 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President


  I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session.  
We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's 
no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your 
mind.  And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can 
disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal.  It is interesting to hear the 
Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true 
like the supposed "war on women."  Mitt and Paul do not have the complete 
authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go 
along with these kinds of things anyway.  But it's okay with me if that's what 
you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when 
we are not in the "inner circle."  I think we've worn the topic out and nothing 
you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will 
never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else 
like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them.  Just kidding 
- well kind of.  

  “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain


  > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400
  > From: at...@optonline.net
  > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
  > 
  > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct!
  > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned
  > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine
  > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V.
  > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will
  > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but
  > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to
  > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with
  > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status
  > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to
  > mention a few.
  > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from
  > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even
  > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do
  > not meddle in people's bedrooms!
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  > Diane Rosenfeldt
  > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM
  > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
  > 
  > Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of
  > the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact
  > that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and
  > has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've
  > read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover
  > from, and that was with Congress more or less working together.
  > 
  > Diane R.
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  > Lisa Conner
  > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM
  > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  > Subject: [Felvtalk] President
  > 
  > Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past
  > 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt.
  > Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country, the division of
  > our country, we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any
  

Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

2012-10-10 Thread Maureen Olvey

I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session.  We 
Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no 
point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. 
 And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree 
without feeling the threat of reprisal.  It is interesting to hear the 
Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true 
like the supposed "war on women."  Mitt and Paul do not have the complete 
authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go 
along with these kinds of things anyway.  But it's okay with me if that's what 
you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when 
we are not in the "inner circle."  I think we've worn the topic out and nothing 
you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will 
never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else 
like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them.  Just kidding 
- well kind of.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400
> From: at...@optonline.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic:   President
> 
> Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct!
> Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned
> Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine
> numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V.
> Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will
> make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but
> promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to
> people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with
> pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status
> of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to
> mention a few.
> An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from
> Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics!  Even
> though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do
> not meddle in people's bedrooms!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Diane Rosenfeldt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
> 
> Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of
> the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact
> that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and
> has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've
> read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover
> from, and that was with Congress more or less working together.
> 
> Diane R.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lisa Conner
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] President
> 
> Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:)   If we have the past
> 4 yours as the next 4 years,  there will be a mass revolt.
> Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country,  the division of
> our country,  we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any
> worse.  That is my 2 cents!
> 
> Now , back to our Felv + kitties.  I am fairly new to this group and joined
> because of losing my cat, Prancer.  He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy
> life. Then bang, like a whirlwind, we lost him.  So my two questions to this
> group is the following:
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Felvtalk] Off topic: President

2012-10-09 Thread Natalie
Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct!
Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned
Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine
numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V.
Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will
make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but
promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to
people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with
pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status
of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to
mention a few.
An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from
Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics!  Even
though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do
not meddle in people's bedrooms!

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Diane Rosenfeldt
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President

Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of
the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact
that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and
has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've
read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover
from, and that was with Congress more or less working together.

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lisa Conner
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] President

Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:)   If we have the past
4 yours as the next 4 years,  there will be a mass revolt.
Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country,  the division of
our country,  we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any
worse.  That is my 2 cents!

Now , back to our Felv + kitties.  I am fairly new to this group and joined
because of losing my cat, Prancer.  He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy
life. Then bang, like a whirlwind, we lost him.  So my two questions to this
group is the following:




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