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I WILL BE SO GLAD WHEN THE ELECTION IS OVER. TIRED OF TV ADDS, PHONE CALLS AND BILLBOARDS. cindy reasoner wrote: > I disagree. Please can we just end all the political talk. > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > --- On Wed, 10/10/12, GRAS wrote: > > > From: GRAS > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 2:10 PM > > > > > > > > I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a > platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling > any candidate horrible names! > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > cindy reasoner > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > > > > > > I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic. I think > if more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job > instead of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot > better. I have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President. I don't > agree with getting on here and bashing another party. I really don't think > this is the forum for politics. > > > > > > Cindy Reasoner > > --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > > From: Maureen Olvey > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AM > > > > I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. > We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's > no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your > mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can > disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear > the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not > true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not have the > complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans > wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me > if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate > all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn the > topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about > Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about > Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and > trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 > > From: at...@optonline.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > > > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned > > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine > > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will > > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but > > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to > > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with > > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status > > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to > > mention a few. > > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from > > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even > > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do > > not meddle in people's bedrooms! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > Diane Rosenfeldt > > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President > >
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I disagree. Please can we just end all the political talk. Cindy Reasoner --- On Wed, 10/10/12, GRAS wrote: From: GRAS Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 2:10 PM I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling any candidate horrible names! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic. I think if more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job instead of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot better. I have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President. I don't agree with getting on here and bashing another party. I really don't think this is the forum for politics. Cindy Reasoner --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AM I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to > mention a few. > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do > not meddle in people's bedrooms! > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Diane Rosenfeldt > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President > > Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of > the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact > that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and > has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've > read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover > from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Lisa Conner > Sent: Tuesday
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I agree. As a wise person once said, "We agree to disagree but not to kill each other over it," Maureen Olvey wrote: > > I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 > > From: at...@optonline.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > > > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned > > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine > > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will > > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but > > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to > > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with > > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status > > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to > > mention a few. > > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from > > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even > > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do > > not meddle in people's bedrooms! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > Diane Rosenfeldt > > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President > > > > Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of > > the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact > > that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and > > has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've > > read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover > > from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. > > > > Diane R. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > Lisa Conner > > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] President > > > > Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past > > 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt. > > Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country, the division of > > our country, we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any > > worse. That is my 2 cents! > > > > Now , back to our Felv + kitties. I am fairly new to this group and joined > > because of losing my cat, Prancer. He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy > > life. Then bang, like a whirlwind, we lost him. So my two questions to this > > group is the following: > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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But some of the statements about the platform itself were incorrect. So the platform was presented unfairly in some cases and that can be very annoying too. Maybe more so than actually bashing the candidate. Not that you or anyone else intentionally said things about the platform which were incorrect. There are things I've heard about the Democratic platform that I'm sure aren't true so it does happen but it's hard to debate in this forum. It would just generate a whole bunch of other discussions that wouldn't go anywhere because getting to the truth regarding politics just doesn't happen. Truth and politics are two words that should never be used in the same sentence. Also, I worry that if a person with a FeLV + cat joined the group right this minute and heard all this talk about the Republican platform and he/she happened to be a Republican it would be hard for them to stay on the list and get information that might help the cat. Just seems fruitless and possibly detrimental to continue the discussions. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:10:16 -0400 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling any candidate horrible names! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic. I think if more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job instead of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot better. I have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President. I don't agree with getting on here and bashing another party. I really don't think this is the forum for politics. Cindy Reasoner --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AMI really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to > m
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I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling any candidate horrible names! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic. I think if more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job instead of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot better. I have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President. I don't agree with getting on here and bashing another party. I really don't think this is the forum for politics. Cindy Reasoner --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AM I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to > mention a few. > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do > not meddle in people's bedrooms! > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Diane Rosenfeldt > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President > > Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of > the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact > that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and > has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've > read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover > from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Lisa Conner > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] President > > Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past > 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt. > Seriously
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I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic. I think if more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job instead of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot better. I have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President. I don't agree with getting on here and bashing another party. I really don't think this is the forum for politics. Cindy Reasoner --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AM I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to > mention a few. > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do > not meddle in people's bedrooms! > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Diane Rosenfeldt > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President > > Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of > the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact > that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and > has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've > read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover > from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Lisa Conner > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] President > > Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past > 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt. > Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country, the division of > our country, we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any > worse. That is my 2 cents! > > Now , back to our Felv + kitties. I am fairly new to this group and joined > because of losing my cat, Prancer. He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy > life. Then bang, like a
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Thank you, Maureen. You said it better than I would have. (And I want to publicly thank James the list owner for asking that this OT thread stop.) I'm here for the critters -- even though I no longer have any FeLV+ cats. I've been a member here since 1998. I don't want to have to leave the list. Terri B, Trenton, NJ =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire =^..^= - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey<mailto:molvey...@hotmail.com> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to > mention a few. > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do > not meddle in people's bedrooms! > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Diane Rosenfeldt > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President > > Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of > the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact > that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and > has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've > read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover > from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Lisa Conner > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] President > > Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past > 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt. > Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country, the division of > our country, we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any
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I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to > mention a few. > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do > not meddle in people's bedrooms! > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Diane Rosenfeldt > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President > > Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of > the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact > that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and > has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've > read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover > from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Lisa Conner > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] President > > Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past > 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt. > Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country, the division of > our country, we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any > worse. That is my 2 cents! > > Now , back to our Felv + kitties. I am fairly new to this group and joined > because of losing my cat, Prancer. He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy > life. Then bang, like a whirlwind, we lost him. So my two questions to this > group is the following: > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Off topic: President
Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to mention a few. An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do not meddle in people's bedrooms! -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. Diane R. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Conner Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] President Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt. Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country, the division of our country, we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any worse. That is my 2 cents! Now , back to our Felv + kitties. I am fairly new to this group and joined because of losing my cat, Prancer. He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy life. Then bang, like a whirlwind, we lost him. So my two questions to this group is the following: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org