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Don't worry - I have no intention of trapping and relocating the raccoon. It could have babies. And I have my hands full with the cats so i don't need more work!!! l.o.l. From: GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply Please don’t trap this time of year, they could still have babies somewhere…and depending on the state, laws may prohibit relocation of wildlife (as in CT). From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about this. Dotty From:MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap it and relocate it? On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks From:Martha Walton To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes, you are right. I think the raccoon has moved on and are probably transient. I don't see him running around the area anymore. There seems to be food in the bin now. And you are right. They left the water bowls empty and dirty. BUT, now the cats still don't seem to want to eat the dry food b/c they can still smell the raccoon even though I believe it is gone. The cats just kind of peer into the bin and sniff and walk away! From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply I was going to say that the coons will just carry off the feeder and break it open at their convenience. I loose a lot of suet feeders that way. My outside water bowls are always dirty in the AM. One has to wash their food before eating it. I think they also take a bath before eating. Maureen Olvey wrote: > > Yes, they can climb trees and recently I found out that they can get on top > of my car. I had put some bags of cat food on the trunk of my car one > night. When I came back outside a couple hours later there were nice little > raccoon paw prints on my car and windshield and a tear in the bag. I didn't > see any major scratches in the paint, like from them climbing, so I wondered > if it was really the cats but those dirty paw prints gave it away. Cat paw > prints are different. My suggestion - give up. You can't beat the raccoons. > Or the opposums for that matter. They climb trees too. I leave extra food > out when I have donated food but if not it can get expensive trying to feed > the raccoons, opposums and cats. I don't mind feeding the raccoons but I'm > not rich enough to feed all the hungry mouths in GA. I'm wondering if > raccoons are transient though. Like I read on an opposum website that they > don't plant roots. They may stick around a few days but then they move on. I have a feeling raccoons do that also. I need to google it. Right now at one of my feral locations there are no raccoons coming around at night. But at times I know there are because all the food is gone and the water is dirty. Plus I've seen them there when I go by at night. But for the last couple of months when I show up the next day the cats have dry food left from the day before and the water is clean. And at my house I also will sometimes see a mama and babies. But a month or two later I'm only seeing one or two raccoons coming around, not the mama and four babies. Where did they go? My friend that only has a couple cats at one feeding station uses one of those food containers with a timer on it. She feeds a certain amount in an open bowl during the day, but at 9:00 at night one side of the container opens with food and later in the night, like 2:00 am the other side opens. That way the cats have food during the night. But the timer thing is small and wouldn't work with a big colony. Plus I've had raccoons carry bowls off so I would think they would carry that off too. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:46:07 -0800 > From: khargrea...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply > > The raccoons near one of my colonies climb the 3-story-high palm tree there, > to live in it, so yes, they can climb. > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:44 AM, dot winkler wrote: > > Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just > restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to > trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't > jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about > this. Dotty > > > From: MaiMaiPG > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply > > > Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons > can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap > it and relocate it? > On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: > > Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over > there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have > noise at night to deter the critters!
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Wow. That's amazing! From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply You have them figured out ! The old timers around here say a coon can get into or out of anything. Lee Evans wrote: > Well, I can give you first hand information on how raccoons get where they > want to go. I was sitting on my deck out here in the middle of nowhere, > watching my cats eat their kibble when I heard scrabbling in one of the > trees. The brave cats took off for under the house and I assumed that Batman > and Robin had landed. Then a giant mama raccoon and four puff ball kits came > sauntering over the branches of the tree, plopped down on the deck and > waddled over to the feed bowl. They cleaned it in a matter of minutes, > looked at me, sauntered back to the wooden railing on the deck, climbed up, > jumped onto the large tree branch and were gone into the night with a maximum > of scrabbling again and a flutter of twigs and leaves. So that should clear > up any doubt about how raccoons get around. They even get on top of my roof > from time to time and I know they can't fly. From: dot winkler To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Hi Lee - The feeder I saw on line showed a dry feed station up high on a pole but that's as far as the raccoon could climb. It had one of those metal sheets that they use to keep squirrels out of bird feeders, and then the actual house construction on top of that to house the dry cat food. Then they had a small tiny cat house nearby from which the cats would go atop and jump to the feeder. But acc to info on line the raccoon can't jump up there. Wondering about this. Also wondering how the cats would jump in winter when there is snow and ice on top of that smaller house. Dotty From: Lee Evans To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION The "jump up" feeder wouldn't work because raccoons can climb just like cats. Last year, when I was feeding a colony, two mama raccoons and a total of 12 puff balls began dining at my cat feeding station. I got some donated dog food that they ate, I guess as an appetizer before they cleaned out the cat food. I don't think there's any way of stopping them. They are so cute, especially the little puff ball kids. Expensive too. As they grew enormous, one of them would run over to me and try to grab the feeding container out of my hands. Scary! I heard that raccoons like fruit. Maybe get some donated fruit and nuts, anything that cats won't eat and offer it to the raccoon? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yeah, right - they definitely must be taking a bath! How can they get the water so dirty? Even just one raccoon makes a mess of the water. They are cute though. I was tossing little bits of a banana to one once and after the banana was gone he slowly walked up to me then bent over and sniffed my shoe and then walked away. I was scared he might bite me but I was too curious about what he was going to do to move. But, they can be a problem too when they're tearing things up and eating the cat's food and you feed 50 ferals a day and don't have money to feed them too. Just read that the babies leave the home range after a certain age. So that's why they disappear. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:57:27 -0500 > From: dlg...@windstream.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply > CC: molvey...@hotmail.com > > I was going to say that the coons will just carry off the feeder and break it > open at their convenience. I loose a lot of suet feeders that way. My > outside water bowls are always dirty in the AM. One has to wash their food > before eating it. I think they also take a bath before eating. > > > Maureen Olvey wrote: > > > > Yes, they can climb trees and recently I found out that they can get on top > > of my car. I had put some bags of cat food on the trunk of my car one > > night. When I came back outside a couple hours later there were nice > > little raccoon paw prints on my car and windshield and a tear in the bag. > > I didn't see any major scratches in the paint, like from them climbing, so > > I wondered if it was really the cats but those dirty paw prints gave it > > away. Cat paw prints are different. My suggestion - give up. You can't > > beat the raccoons. Or the opposums for that matter. They climb trees too. > > I leave extra food out when I have donated food but if not it can get > > expensive trying to feed the raccoons, opposums and cats. I don't mind > > feeding the raccoons but I'm not rich enough to feed all the hungry mouths > > in GA. I'm wondering if raccoons are transient though. Like I read on an > > opposum website that they don't plant roots. They may stick around a few > > days but then they move on. I have a feeling raccoons do that also. I > > need to google it. Right now at one of my feral locations there are no > > raccoons coming around at night. But at times I know there are because all > > the food is gone and the water is dirty. Plus I've seen them there when I > > go by at night. But for the last couple of months when I show up the next > > day the cats have dry food left from the day before and the water is clean. > > And at my house I also will sometimes see a mama and babies. But a month > > or two later I'm only seeing one or two raccoons coming around, not the > > mama and four babies. Where did they go? My friend that only has a couple > > cats at one feeding station uses one of those food containers with a timer > > on it. She feeds a certain amount in an open bowl during the day, but at > > 9:00 at night one side of the container opens with food and later in the > > night, like 2:00 am the other side opens. That way the cats have food > > during the night. But the timer thing is small and wouldn't work with a > > big colony. Plus I've had raccoons carry bowls off so I would think they > > would carry that off too. > > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark > > Twain > > Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:46:07 -0800 > > From: khargrea...@gmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply > > > > The raccoons near one of my colonies climb the 3-story-high palm tree > > there, to live in it, so yes, they can climb. > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:44 AM, dot winkler wrote: > > > > Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just > > restarted the dry food aft
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I was going to say that the coons will just carry off the feeder and break it open at their convenience. I loose a lot of suet feeders that way. My outside water bowls are always dirty in the AM. One has to wash their food before eating it. I think they also take a bath before eating. Maureen Olvey wrote: > > Yes, they can climb trees and recently I found out that they can get on top > of my car. I had put some bags of cat food on the trunk of my car one night. > When I came back outside a couple hours later there were nice little raccoon > paw prints on my car and windshield and a tear in the bag. I didn't see any > major scratches in the paint, like from them climbing, so I wondered if it > was really the cats but those dirty paw prints gave it away. Cat paw prints > are different. My suggestion - give up. You can't beat the raccoons. Or the > opposums for that matter. They climb trees too. I leave extra food out when > I have donated food but if not it can get expensive trying to feed the > raccoons, opposums and cats. I don't mind feeding the raccoons but I'm not > rich enough to feed all the hungry mouths in GA. I'm wondering if raccoons > are transient though. Like I read on an opposum website that they don't > plant roots. They may stick around a few days but then they move on. I have > a feeling raccoons do that also. I need to google it. Right now at one of > my feral locations there are no raccoons coming around at night. But at > times I know there are because all the food is gone and the water is dirty. > Plus I've seen them there when I go by at night. But for the last couple of > months when I show up the next day the cats have dry food left from the day > before and the water is clean. And at my house I also will sometimes see a > mama and babies. But a month or two later I'm only seeing one or two > raccoons coming around, not the mama and four babies. Where did they go? My > friend that only has a couple cats at one feeding station uses one of those > food containers with a timer on it. She feeds a certain amount in an open > bowl during the day, but at 9:00 at night one side of the container opens > with food and later in the night, like 2:00 am the other side opens. That > way the cats have food during the night. But the timer thing is small and > wouldn't work with a big colony. Plus I've had raccoons carry bowls off so I > would think they would carry that off too. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:46:07 -0800 > From: khargrea...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply > > The raccoons near one of my colonies climb the 3-story-high palm tree there, > to live in it, so yes, they can climb. > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:44 AM, dot winkler wrote: > > Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just > restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to > trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't > jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about > this. Dotty > > > From: MaiMaiPG > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply > > > Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons > can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap > it and relocate it? > On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: > > Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over > there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have > noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks > > From: Martha Walton > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION > > A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our chicken-coop, > maybe it would help with the cat situation? > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >
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You have them figured out ! The old timers around here say a coon can get into or out of anything. Lee Evans wrote: > Well, I can give you first hand information on how raccoons get where they > want to go. I was sitting on my deck out here in the middle of nowhere, > watching my cats eat their kibble when I heard scrabbling in one of the > trees. The brave cats took off for under the house and I assumed that Batman > and Robin had landed. Then a giant mama raccoon and four puff ball kits came > sauntering over the branches of the tree, plopped down on the deck and > waddled over to the feed bowl. They cleaned it in a matter of minutes, > looked at me, sauntered back to the wooden railing on the deck, climbed up, > jumped onto the large tree branch and were gone into the night with a maximum > of scrabbling again and a flutter of twigs and leaves. So that should clear > up any doubt about how raccoons get around. They even get on top of my roof > from time to time and I know they can't fly. From: dot winkler To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Hi Lee - The feeder I saw on line showed a dry feed station up high on a pole but that's as far as the raccoon could climb. It had one of those metal sheets that they use to keep squirrels out of bird feeders, and then the actual house construction on top of that to house the dry cat food. Then they had a small tiny cat house nearby from which the cats would go atop and jump to the feeder. But acc to info on line the raccoon can't jump up there. Wondering about this. Also wondering how the cats would jump in winter when there is snow and ice on top of that smaller house. Dotty From: Lee Evans To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION The "jump up" feeder wouldn't work because raccoons can climb just like cats. Last year, when I was feeding a colony, two mama raccoons and a total of 12 puff balls began dining at my cat feeding station. I got some donated dog food that they ate, I guess as an appetizer before they cleaned out the cat food. I don't think there's any way of stopping them. They are so cute, especially the little puff ball kids. Expensive too. As they grew enormous, one of them would run over to me and try to grab the feeding container out of my hands. Scary! I heard that raccoons like fruit. Maybe get some donated fruit and nuts, anything that cats won't eat and offer it to the raccoon? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Why are they so hungry? don't they get any mice to supplement the meat you give them? dot winkler wrote: > Thanks for everyone's advice. I need to leave the dry food there at all times because I feed the cats meat during the day and pick up the plates so as not to leave food around. The dry food in the station is there so that the cats have something to munch on all day long as well as if they get hungry later or the next morning in case I can't make it there to feed them that day. I have tried feeding the cats only the meat once a day and they are too hungry the next day. They need some kind of staple food. Dotty From: CATHERINE DIDONNA To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION RACCONS eat everything.The Bronx zoo told someone to gie them lettuce. Maybe you can leave lettuce,apples.grapes,outside.for them.If not don't leave the dry overnite,and maybe they wont come back.Cathy Bronx. N Y From: dot winkler To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder? I am feeding 7 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food every night in the dry food feeding station. I feed the cats by day some meat and throw away the plates when done. But the dry food is a staple food for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give. Also, in case I can't get there to feed them. Any suggestions? I have seen some constructions on line but the cats have to jump up to get into them and there is one older cat I don't think he can jump up into anything! Please let me know. I know this has nothing to do with leukemia, but it does have to do with helping cats. Dotty - Freehold, NJ From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400 Ha, ha - I love it!!! You sound as pissed off as I was. Believe me he is on my shitlist too. I was boiling about it for days. Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it. I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die. I don't know. He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP. I didn't give him a chance to send me away with nothing. Course, at the time other than the fever she was doing okay. Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some weight. So she wasn't in any pain. But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway. The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive. He's such a dumbass. I didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her. So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care. He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her. I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her. BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have been just killing her. I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals. I'm going to steal it. Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something. I'll use your answer for those folks. It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean! Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity to
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Yes, they can climb trees and recently I found out that they can get on top of my car. I had put some bags of cat food on the trunk of my car one night. When I came back outside a couple hours later there were nice little raccoon paw prints on my car and windshield and a tear in the bag. I didn't see any major scratches in the paint, like from them climbing, so I wondered if it was really the cats but those dirty paw prints gave it away. Cat paw prints are different. My suggestion - give up. You can't beat the raccoons. Or the opposums for that matter. They climb trees too. I leave extra food out when I have donated food but if not it can get expensive trying to feed the raccoons, opposums and cats. I don't mind feeding the raccoons but I'm not rich enough to feed all the hungry mouths in GA. I'm wondering if raccoons are transient though. Like I read on an opposum website that they don't plant roots. They may stick around a few days but then they move on. I have a feeling raccoons do that also. I need to google it. Right now at one of my feral locations there are no raccoons coming around at night. But at times I know there are because all the food is gone and the water is dirty. Plus I've seen them there when I go by at night. But for the last couple of months when I show up the next day the cats have dry food left from the day before and the water is clean. And at my house I also will sometimes see a mama and babies. But a month or two later I'm only seeing one or two raccoons coming around, not the mama and four babies. Where did they go? My friend that only has a couple cats at one feeding station uses one of those food containers with a timer on it. She feeds a certain amount in an open bowl during the day, but at 9:00 at night one side of the container opens with food and later in the night, like 2:00 am the other side opens. That way the cats have food during the night. But the timer thing is small and wouldn't work with a big colony. Plus I've had raccoons carry bowls off so I would think they would carry that off too. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:46:07 -0800 From: khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply The raccoons near one of my colonies climb the 3-story-high palm tree there, to live in it, so yes, they can climb. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:44 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about this. Dotty From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap it and relocate it? On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks From: Martha Walton To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their life: http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't
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The raccoons near one of my colonies climb the 3-story-high palm tree there, to live in it, so yes, they can climb. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:44 AM, dot winkler wrote: > Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just > restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid > to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons > can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. > Wondering about this. Dotty > > -- > *From:* MaiMaiPG > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply > > Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that > coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can > you trap it and relocate it? > On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: > > Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive > over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could > have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks > > -- > *From:* Martha Walton > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION > > A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our > chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation? > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their life: http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/<http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/> Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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They don't and they contain a poison. On May 31, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Martha Walton wrote: My neighbor puts out moth balls to keep raccoons & possums away, but cats probably don't like the smell, either. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:44 AM, GRAS wrote: Please don’t trap this time of year, they could still have babies somewhere…and depending on the state, laws may prohibit relocation of wildlife (as in CT). From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of dot winkler Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about this. Dotty From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap it and relocate it? On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks From: Martha Walton To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Well, I can give you first hand information on how raccoons get where they want to go. I was sitting on my deck out here in the middle of nowhere, watching my cats eat their kibble when I heard scrabbling in one of the trees. The brave cats took off for under the house and I assumed that Batman and Robin had landed. Then a giant mama raccoon and four puff ball kits came sauntering over the branches of the tree, plopped down on the deck and waddled over to the feed bowl. They cleaned it in a matter of minutes, looked at me, sauntered back to the wooden railing on the deck, climbed up, jumped onto the large tree branch and were gone into the night with a maximum of scrabbling again and a flutter of twigs and leaves. So that should clear up any doubt about how raccoons get around. They even get on top of my roof from time to time and I know they can't fly. From: dot winkler To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Hi Lee - The feeder I saw on line showed a dry feed station up high on a pole but that's as far as the raccoon could climb. It had one of those metal sheets that they use to keep squirrels out of bird feeders, and then the actual house construction on top of that to house the dry cat food. Then they had a small tiny cat house nearby from which the cats would go atop and jump to the feeder. But acc to info on line the raccoon can't jump up there. Wondering about this. Also wondering how the cats would jump in winter when there is snow and ice on top of that smaller house. Dotty From: Lee Evans To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION The "jump up" feeder wouldn't work because raccoons can climb just like cats. Last year, when I was feeding a colony, two mama raccoons and a total of 12 puff balls began dining at my cat feeding station. I got some donated dog food that they ate, I guess as an appetizer before they cleaned out the cat food. I don't think there's any way of stopping them. They are so cute, especially the little puff ball kids. Expensive too. As they grew enormous, one of them would run over to me and try to grab the feeding container out of my hands. Scary! I heard that raccoons like fruit. Maybe get some donated fruit and nuts, anything that cats won't eat and offer it to the raccoon?___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My neighbor puts out moth balls to keep raccoons & possums away, but cats probably don't like the smell, either. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:44 AM, GRAS wrote: > Please don’t trap this time of year, they could still have babies > somewhere…and depending on the state, laws may prohibit relocation of > wildlife (as in CT). > > ** ** > > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *dot winkler > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:45 AM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply > > ** ** > > Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just > restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid > to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons > can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. > Wondering about this. Dotty > > ** ** > -- > > *From:* MaiMaiPG > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply > > ** ** > > Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that > coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can > you trap it and relocate it? > > On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: > > > > > > Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive > over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could > have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks > > ** ** > -- > > *From:* Martha Walton > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION > > ** ** > > A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our > chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ** ** > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Please don't trap this time of year, they could still have babies somewhere.and depending on the state, laws may prohibit relocation of wildlife (as in CT). From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about this. Dotty _ From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap it and relocate it? On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks _ From: Martha Walton To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Coons climb and jump. Evidence: Hunters tree coons; they eat bird eggs; they get on top of garbage cans and open them etc. Google it. On May 31, 2012, at 6:44 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about this. Dotty From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap it and relocate it? On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks From: Martha Walton To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Lee - The feeder I saw on line showed a dry feed station up high on a pole but that's as far as the raccoon could climb. It had one of those metal sheets that they use to keep squirrels out of bird feeders, and then the actual house construction on top of that to house the dry cat food. Then they had a small tiny cat house nearby from which the cats would go atop and jump to the feeder. But acc to info on line the raccoon can't jump up there. Wondering about this. Also wondering how the cats would jump in winter when there is snow and ice on top of that smaller house. Dotty From: Lee Evans To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION The "jump up" feeder wouldn't work because raccoons can climb just like cats. Last year, when I was feeding a colony, two mama raccoons and a total of 12 puff balls began dining at my cat feeding station. I got some donated dog food that they ate, I guess as an appetizer before they cleaned out the cat food. I don't think there's any way of stopping them. They are so cute, especially the little puff ball kids. Expensive too. As they grew enormous, one of them would run over to me and try to grab the feeding container out of my hands. Scary! I heard that raccoons like fruit. Maybe get some donated fruit and nuts, anything that cats won't eat and offer it to the raccoon? From: dot winkler To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder? I am feeding 7 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food every night in the dry food feeding station. I feed the cats by day some meat and throw away the plates when done. But the dry food is a staple food for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give. Also, in case I can't get there to feed them. Any suggestions? I have seen some constructions on line but the cats have to jump up to get into them and there is one older cat I don't think he can jump up into anything! Please let me know. I know this has nothing to do with leukemia, but it does have to do with helping cats. Dotty - Freehold, NJ From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400 Ha, ha - I love it!!! You sound as pissed off as I was. Believe me he is on my shitlist too. I was boiling about it for days. Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it. I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die. I don't know. He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP. I didn't give him a chance to send me away with nothing. Course, at the time other than the fever she was doing okay. Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some weight. So she wasn't in any pain. But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway. The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive. He's such a dumbass. I didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her. So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care. He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her. I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her. BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have been just killing her. I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals. I'm going to steal it. Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) but every now and then
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Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about this. Dotty From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap it and relocate it? On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks > > > > > From: Martha Walton >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION > > >A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our chicken-coop, >maybe it would help with the cat situation? > > > >> > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap it and relocate it? On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks From: Martha Walton To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks From: Martha Walton To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation? > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks for everyone's advice. I need to leave the dry food there at all times because I feed the cats meat during the day and pick up the plates so as not to leave food around. The dry food in the station is there so that the cats have something to munch on all day long as well as if they get hungry later or the next morning in case I can't make it there to feed them that day. I have tried feeding the cats only the meat once a day and they are too hungry the next day. They need some kind of staple food. Dotty From: CATHERINE DIDONNA To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION RACCONS eat everything.The Bronx zoo told someone to gie them lettuce. Maybe you can leave lettuce,apples.grapes,outside.for them.If not don't leave the dry overnite,and maybe they wont come back.Cathy Bronx. N Y From: dot winkler To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder? I am feeding 7 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food every night in the dry food feeding station. I feed the cats by day some meat and throw away the plates when done. But the dry food is a staple food for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give. Also, in case I can't get there to feed them. Any suggestions? I have seen some constructions on line but the cats have to jump up to get into them and there is one older cat I don't think he can jump up into anything! Please let me know. I know this has nothing to do with leukemia, but it does have to do with helping cats. Dotty - Freehold, NJ From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400 Ha, ha - I love it!!! You sound as pissed off as I was. Believe me he is on my shitlist too. I was boiling about it for days. Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it. I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die. I don't know. He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP. I didn't give him a chance to send me away with nothing. Course, at the time other than the fever she was doing okay. Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some weight. So she wasn't in any pain. But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway. The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive. He's such a dumbass. I didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her. So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care. He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her. I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her. BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have been just killing her. I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals. I'm going to steal it. Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something. I'll use your answer for those folks. It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean! Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: marcia
