Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

2012-05-23 Thread Lorrie
This cat is one of the FelV cats in my private cat sanctuary.
His last vet visit was to have his teeth cleaned in January. He has
been just fine, in spite of having FelV, until just recently when he
started to lose a lot of weight.  Now he is eating very little even
tho I feed him canned food separately. Nutramin and COQ10 sound good,
and I will check on them to see if he'll take them, but he has little
appetite now and is just wasting away.  Otherwise I will not put him
thru heroic measures, injections, etc.

Thank you for your help.
Lorrie

On 05-22, GRAS wrote:
 
 Lorrie - Is he getting any medical support for his condition?  When I had
 FeLV+ cats, and still have 6 FIV+ cats, I gave/give them CoQ10 (50mg) daily,
 and Nutramin* (higher than suggested dosage for sick cats), building up the
 amount givenwhen I see that there's not much more to be done and you
 know that the cat is either in pain or has a just absolutely horrible
 quality of life, I opt for euthanasia as a last resort, only after having
 done everything that I could.
 
 -Original Message-

 I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my
 favorites is a long haired black male who tested positive several
 months ago.  He is just wasting away.  He is not anemic, and has no
 tumors, but he's getting thinner and thinner. Since he shows no
 symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a bit more
 time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He doesn't appear 
 to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and he no longer grooms
 himself, but he is still eating.  I've lost many FelV cats, but
 most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed.  Have any of
 you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think I should
 just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and safe?  I
 hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so frightening
 for cats to go to the vet.  I would appreciate your thoughts.
 
 Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

2012-05-23 Thread Lorrie
Excellent suggestion.  Thank you.


On 05-22, Lee Evans wrote:
Did  you test to see if he has an overactive thyroid?  This can happen
even  to  younger cats.  It may or may not be related to FeLv.  Please
have  a thyroid profile done before deciding on his fate.  Thyroid can
be treated with medication.  There's even an ear ointment that absorbs
through  the  skin of the cat's ear if the cat absolutely won't take a
pill.   And yes, they do eat but get thinner and thinner.  If your vet
didn't do a thyroid profile, ask him to do that.
  _

   Original message From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 AM
   
I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my
favorites is a long haired black male who tested positive
several months ago.  He is just wasting away.  He is not anemic,
has no tumors, but is just getting thinner and thinner. Since he
shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a
bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He
doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and he
no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating.  I've lost
many FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and
crashed. Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and
do you think I should just let him die at home where he feels
comfortable and safe?  I hate to have him euthanized at this
point as it is so frightening for cats to go to the vet.  I
would appreciate your thoughts.

Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

2012-05-23 Thread Maureen Olvey

Or diabetes.  That's another one that will do it.  Usually it's older cats that 
turn into diabetics but it does happen to younger ones occasionally.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
  Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 12:06:37 -0400
 From: felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away
 
 Excellent suggestion.  Thank you.
 
 
 On 05-22, Lee Evans wrote:
 Did  you test to see if he has an overactive thyroid?  This can happen
 even  to  younger cats.  It may or may not be related to FeLv.  Please
 have  a thyroid profile done before deciding on his fate.  Thyroid can
 be treated with medication.  There's even an ear ointment that absorbs
 through  the  skin of the cat's ear if the cat absolutely won't take a
 pill.   And yes, they do eat but get thinner and thinner.  If your vet
 didn't do a thyroid profile, ask him to do that.
   _
 
Original message From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 AM

 I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my
 favorites is a long haired black male who tested positive
 several months ago.  He is just wasting away.  He is not anemic,
 has no tumors, but is just getting thinner and thinner. Since he
 shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a
 bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He
 doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and he
 no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating.  I've lost
 many FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and
 crashed. Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and
 do you think I should just let him die at home where he feels
 comfortable and safe?  I hate to have him euthanized at this
 point as it is so frightening for cats to go to the vet.  I
 would appreciate your thoughts.
 
 Lorrie
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

2012-05-22 Thread Lorrie
I am so sorry for your loss of Orlando. I do rescue work and I have
several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black
male who tested positive several months ago.  He is not just wasting
away.  He is not anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner
and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can
do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for
long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and
he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating.  I've lost many
FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. 
Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think
I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and
safe?  I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so
frightening for cats to go to the vet.  I would appreciate your
thoughts.

Lorrie

On 05-21, Frank  Sue
Koren wrote:
It  has  been  one  week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last
time.  His tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he
had  stopped  eating.   He  was  such a wonderful cat, my loving flame
point  Siamese boy.  The first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room
he  reached  up  and  gave me a hug.  From then on he was my boy and I
can't  believe  he  is  gone  and  I  will never see him again in this
world.   He  was  about  10 when I adopted him and that was four years
ago.   He  would  come up and bite me in the butt for attention when I
was  working  on  the  computer.   If  I  got up at night to go to the
bathroom  he would accompany me.  Always.  I guess that was how I knew
it  was  time.   On  the  last night he didn't do that.  He will be SO
missed.  I hate hate hate this disease.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

2012-05-22 Thread GRAS
I am so sorry about Orlando!

Lorrie - Is he getting any medical support for his condition?  When I had
FeLV+ cats, and still have 6 FIV+ cats, I gave/give them CoQ10 (50mg) daily,
and Nutramin* (higher than suggested dosage for sick cats), building up the
amount givenwhen I see that there's not much more to be done and you
know that the cat is either in pain or has a just absolutely horrible
quality of life, I opt for euthanasia as a last resort, only after having
done everything that I could.

* I mix Nutramin into the food for all the rescue cats; one of the many
sources they actually gives a nice discount to rescue groups (if you ask for
it and tell them of your non-profit status). 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

I am so sorry for your loss of Orlando. I do rescue work and I have several
FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black male who tested
positive several months ago.  He is not just wasting away.  He is not
anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner and thinner. Since he
shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a bit more
time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He doesn't appear to be in
any pain, he is just weak, thin and he no longer grooms himself, but he is
still eating.  I've lost many FelV cats, but most had either tumors or
became anemic and crashed. 
Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think I
should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and safe?  I hate
to have him euthanized at this point as it is so frightening for cats to go
to the vet.  I would appreciate your thoughts.

Lorrie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

2012-05-22 Thread Lee Evans
Did you test to see if he has an overactive thyroid?  This can happen even to 
younger cats.  It may or may not be related to FeLv.  Please have a thyroid 
profile done before deciding on his fate.  Thyroid can be treated with 
medication.  There's even an ear ointment that absorbs through the skin of the 
cat's ear if the cat absolutely won't take a pill.  And yes, they do eat but 
get thinner and thinner.  If your vet didn't do a thyroid profile, ask him to 
do that.




 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away
 
I am so sorry for your loss of Orlando. I do rescue work and I have
several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black
male who tested positive several months ago.  He is not just wasting
away.  He is not anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner
and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can
do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for
long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and
he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating.  I've lost many
FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. 
Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think
I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and
safe?  I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so
frightening for cats to go to the vet.  I would appreciate your
thoughts.

Lorrie

On 05-21, Frank  Sue
Koren wrote:
    It  has  been  one  week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last
    time.  His tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he
    had  stopped  eating.   He  was  such a wonderful cat, my loving flame
    point  Siamese boy.  The first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room
    he  reached  up  and  gave me a hug.  From then on he was my boy and I
    can't  believe  he  is  gone  and  I  will never see him again in this
    world.   He  was  about  10 when I adopted him and that was four years
    ago.   He  would  come up and bite me in the butt for attention when I
    was  working  on  the  computer.   If  I  got up at night to go to the
    bathroom  he would accompany me.  Always.  I guess that was how I knew
    it  was  time.   On  the  last night he didn't do that.  He will be SO
    missed.  I hate hate hate this disease.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

2012-05-22 Thread Marta Gasper
I had a cat that wasted away, he was FIV+..we did everything to keep him 
confortable and on his last days when he was alert I'd bundle him up(tho it was 
Aug, he was literally skin and bones) and take him outside to scracht his fav 
tree, he did all entus but got tired quickly and he'd take a long nap. I also 
took him to the window to watch the birds outside, had to hold him b/c he 
couldn't walk well and held him near a dripping faucet b/c he loved it..he was 
indoors only but when he was well he went out in a patio enclosure and scracht 
everything in sight, including a tree branch that went in the enclosure.
He ate well too. I fed him kitten food both canned and dry, that he ate by 
himself and syringe fed Nutrical, sugar water, rubbed Karo on his gums, 
anything that would give him energy.
When he became unresponsive we thought it was time and he died just before he 
was injected, he had had a seizure on the ride to the vet and another while we 
waited. I don't think he suffered  thats why I let him live a bit longer but 
like I said once it was apparent he'd lost all quality of life we decided to 
help him along.
It was very hard on us though seeing him deteriorate, if it was up to me I'd 
have put him down earlier but my husband won't put down a pet unless it is 
suffering. I won't either but sometimes I see no point on keeping them tho I'm 
glad for the time with had with this kitty.
M 

http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

I am so sorry for your loss of Orlando. I do rescue work and I have
several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black
male who tested positive several months ago.  He is not just wasting
away.  He is not anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner
and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can
do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for
long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and
he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating.  I've lost many
FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. 
Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think
I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and
safe?  I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so
frightening for cats to go to the vet.  I would appreciate your
thoughts.

Lorrie

On 05-21, Frank  Sue
Koren wrote:
    It  has  been  one  week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last
    time.  His tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he
    had  stopped  eating.  He  was  such a wonderful cat, my loving flame
    point  Siamese boy.  The first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room
    he  reached  up  and  gave me a hug.  From then on he was my boy and I
    can't  believe  he  is  gone  and  I  will never see him again in this
    world.  He  was  about  10 when I adopted him and that was four years
    ago.  He  would  come up and bite me in the butt for attention when I
    was  working  on  the  computer.  If  I  got up at night to go to the
    bathroom  he would accompany me.  Always.  I guess that was how I knew
    it  was  time.  On  the  last night he didn't do that.  He will be SO
    missed.  I hate hate hate this disease.


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