Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away
This cat is one of the FelV cats in my private cat sanctuary. His last vet visit was to have his teeth cleaned in January. He has been just fine, in spite of having FelV, until just recently when he started to lose a lot of weight. Now he is eating very little even tho I feed him canned food separately. Nutramin and COQ10 sound good, and I will check on them to see if he'll take them, but he has little appetite now and is just wasting away. Otherwise I will not put him thru heroic measures, injections, etc. Thank you for your help. Lorrie On 05-22, GRAS wrote: Lorrie - Is he getting any medical support for his condition? When I had FeLV+ cats, and still have 6 FIV+ cats, I gave/give them CoQ10 (50mg) daily, and Nutramin* (higher than suggested dosage for sick cats), building up the amount givenwhen I see that there's not much more to be done and you know that the cat is either in pain or has a just absolutely horrible quality of life, I opt for euthanasia as a last resort, only after having done everything that I could. -Original Message- I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black male who tested positive several months ago. He is just wasting away. He is not anemic, and has no tumors, but he's getting thinner and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating. I've lost many FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and safe? I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so frightening for cats to go to the vet. I would appreciate your thoughts. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away
Excellent suggestion. Thank you. On 05-22, Lee Evans wrote: Did you test to see if he has an overactive thyroid? This can happen even to younger cats. It may or may not be related to FeLv. Please have a thyroid profile done before deciding on his fate. Thyroid can be treated with medication. There's even an ear ointment that absorbs through the skin of the cat's ear if the cat absolutely won't take a pill. And yes, they do eat but get thinner and thinner. If your vet didn't do a thyroid profile, ask him to do that. _ Original message From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 AM I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black male who tested positive several months ago. He is just wasting away. He is not anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating. I've lost many FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and safe? I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so frightening for cats to go to the vet. I would appreciate your thoughts. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away
Or diabetes. That's another one that will do it. Usually it's older cats that turn into diabetics but it does happen to younger ones occasionally. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 12:06:37 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away Excellent suggestion. Thank you. On 05-22, Lee Evans wrote: Did you test to see if he has an overactive thyroid? This can happen even to younger cats. It may or may not be related to FeLv. Please have a thyroid profile done before deciding on his fate. Thyroid can be treated with medication. There's even an ear ointment that absorbs through the skin of the cat's ear if the cat absolutely won't take a pill. And yes, they do eat but get thinner and thinner. If your vet didn't do a thyroid profile, ask him to do that. _ Original message From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 AM I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black male who tested positive several months ago. He is just wasting away. He is not anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating. I've lost many FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and safe? I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so frightening for cats to go to the vet. I would appreciate your thoughts. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away
I am so sorry for your loss of Orlando. I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black male who tested positive several months ago. He is not just wasting away. He is not anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating. I've lost many FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and safe? I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so frightening for cats to go to the vet. I would appreciate your thoughts. Lorrie On 05-21, Frank Sue Koren wrote: It has been one week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last time. His tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he had stopped eating. He was such a wonderful cat, my loving flame point Siamese boy. The first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room he reached up and gave me a hug. From then on he was my boy and I can't believe he is gone and I will never see him again in this world. He was about 10 when I adopted him and that was four years ago. He would come up and bite me in the butt for attention when I was working on the computer. If I got up at night to go to the bathroom he would accompany me. Always. I guess that was how I knew it was time. On the last night he didn't do that. He will be SO missed. I hate hate hate this disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away
I am so sorry about Orlando! Lorrie - Is he getting any medical support for his condition? When I had FeLV+ cats, and still have 6 FIV+ cats, I gave/give them CoQ10 (50mg) daily, and Nutramin* (higher than suggested dosage for sick cats), building up the amount givenwhen I see that there's not much more to be done and you know that the cat is either in pain or has a just absolutely horrible quality of life, I opt for euthanasia as a last resort, only after having done everything that I could. * I mix Nutramin into the food for all the rescue cats; one of the many sources they actually gives a nice discount to rescue groups (if you ask for it and tell them of your non-profit status). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away I am so sorry for your loss of Orlando. I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black male who tested positive several months ago. He is not just wasting away. He is not anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating. I've lost many FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and safe? I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so frightening for cats to go to the vet. I would appreciate your thoughts. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away
Did you test to see if he has an overactive thyroid? This can happen even to younger cats. It may or may not be related to FeLv. Please have a thyroid profile done before deciding on his fate. Thyroid can be treated with medication. There's even an ear ointment that absorbs through the skin of the cat's ear if the cat absolutely won't take a pill. And yes, they do eat but get thinner and thinner. If your vet didn't do a thyroid profile, ask him to do that. From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away I am so sorry for your loss of Orlando. I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black male who tested positive several months ago. He is not just wasting away. He is not anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating. I've lost many FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and safe? I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so frightening for cats to go to the vet. I would appreciate your thoughts. Lorrie On 05-21, Frank Sue Koren wrote: It has been one week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last time. His tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he had stopped eating. He was such a wonderful cat, my loving flame point Siamese boy. The first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room he reached up and gave me a hug. From then on he was my boy and I can't believe he is gone and I will never see him again in this world. He was about 10 when I adopted him and that was four years ago. He would come up and bite me in the butt for attention when I was working on the computer. If I got up at night to go to the bathroom he would accompany me. Always. I guess that was how I knew it was time. On the last night he didn't do that. He will be SO missed. I hate hate hate this disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away
I had a cat that wasted away, he was FIV+..we did everything to keep him confortable and on his last days when he was alert I'd bundle him up(tho it was Aug, he was literally skin and bones) and take him outside to scracht his fav tree, he did all entus but got tired quickly and he'd take a long nap. I also took him to the window to watch the birds outside, had to hold him b/c he couldn't walk well and held him near a dripping faucet b/c he loved it..he was indoors only but when he was well he went out in a patio enclosure and scracht everything in sight, including a tree branch that went in the enclosure. He ate well too. I fed him kitten food both canned and dry, that he ate by himself and syringe fed Nutrical, sugar water, rubbed Karo on his gums, anything that would give him energy. When he became unresponsive we thought it was time and he died just before he was injected, he had had a seizure on the ride to the vet and another while we waited. I don't think he suffered thats why I let him live a bit longer but like I said once it was apparent he'd lost all quality of life we decided to help him along. It was very hard on us though seeing him deteriorate, if it was up to me I'd have put him down earlier but my husband won't put down a pet unless it is suffering. I won't either but sometimes I see no point on keeping them tho I'm glad for the time with had with this kitty. M http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away I am so sorry for your loss of Orlando. I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black male who tested positive several months ago. He is not just wasting away. He is not anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating. I've lost many FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and safe? I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so frightening for cats to go to the vet. I would appreciate your thoughts. Lorrie On 05-21, Frank Sue Koren wrote: It has been one week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last time. His tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he had stopped eating. He was such a wonderful cat, my loving flame point Siamese boy. The first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room he reached up and gave me a hug. From then on he was my boy and I can't believe he is gone and I will never see him again in this world. He was about 10 when I adopted him and that was four years ago. He would come up and bite me in the butt for attention when I was working on the computer. If I got up at night to go to the bathroom he would accompany me. Always. I guess that was how I knew it was time. On the last night he didn't do that. He will be SO missed. I hate hate hate this disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org