Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice
Thanks Jennifer, I talked to my vet and he had done a full exam on him. He says that it is the anemia that is causing the labored breath because he is trying to get more oxygen. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Lewis Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Matt, I know Roughy doesn't like the vet, but you may need to get his chest x-rayed. Our Smoosh began having very labored breathing (and it happened very quickly) and when we took her in, x rays showed a massive amount of fluid had collected in her chest cavity; it was in essence smothering her. You could not even see her heart and all you could see of her lungs looked like little feathers. She was a small (6 lb) cat and around a pint of bloody fluid was extracted (which was found to contain squamous or cancer cells). We lost her shortly after to this fast moving cancer, as the fluid built up again very quickly and we could not watch her suffer. Sorry to bear less-than-positive input, but this was our experience. Please talk to your vet about this. Jennifer (and Smoosh) On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: Thank you, Lee! I talked to my vet who is concerned that because of his stress levels, we should see if his current treatment will help enough. He is concerned that being hospitalized for a transfusion will be too much for him. He gets EXTREMELY stressed to the point of making himself violently ill. He was a feral cat for most of his life so he hates cars and all other people. Anyway, he seems to be improving a tiny bit although I am hoping it isn't my mind playing tricks on me. I am excited that he is drinking water again and I am hopeful that he will start eating on his own. No fleas...I haven't let him outside (or any of my cats) for the last 4 years. Anyway, thanks again, Lee! From: Lee Evans [mailto:moonsiste...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:01 PM To: Matt Pardo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Roughy needs a transfusion if his breathing is labored. The anemia is getting him. Can you take him to a clinic that offers blood-matching transfusions? My poor Bunny had labored breathing and progressive anemia towards the end. Her bone marrow was not producing any red cells. Maybe you can buy some time for Roughy. His bone marrow may still be producing red cells but not in the quantity he needs. If he gets a good dose of healthy blood, it will help him eat again. You may need to stop the cortisone. You need a second opinion from a vet who is up on the latest data regarding feline leukemia. What Roughy may have is non-generative anemia but maybe not. He may still be in the stage of generating red cells. Have you treated him for fleas? Cats can also get flea anemia which responds well to a transfusion. On Sunday, September 14, 2014 7:14 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Thanks for the feedback, Lee. We were hoping that Roughy had turned negative because we have had him for four years. He is our only FeLV+ cat and he is FIV+/FeLV+. I feel like a real idiot for not getting him tested. I should have been prepared for this. Right now, I am just praying we get through the weekend. His breathing seems so difficult and I know he hasn't slept very much (nor have I). I am reading more about treatments and I am not sure my vet is very current on treatments. He is a great vet, but he didn't present any real options. Ugh. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Hi Matt - I have had several cats who turned from FeLv+ to negative. One who turned back to positive after turning to negative passed away very quickly. Odd case because my other "turned cat" lived to be 12 years old. He was about a year old when I rescued him, he was positive and then turned negative. Lived a pretty long life too, considering he had been a street cat before I got him. I still have one who was both FeLv+ and FIV+. He turned negative for leukemia but not for FIV but FIV is not a serious issue around my place. They usually live as long as negative cats. I was under the impression that cats who are positive for leukemia are not supposed to be given cortisone shots or oral cortisone medication. It will increase a cat's appetite for a while, but not for long. Cortisone also has a bad effect on the cat's kidneys if given regularly. I could not find anything current on Facebook although there are a couple of pages for Leukemia positive cats but no postings since 2011 and 2012. I don't think you will be getting any u
Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice
Matt, I know Roughy doesn't like the vet, but you may need to get his chest x-rayed. Our Smoosh began having very labored breathing (and it happened very quickly) and when we took her in, x rays showed a massive amount of fluid had collected in her chest cavity; it was in essence smothering her. You could not even see her heart and all you could see of her lungs looked like little feathers. She was a small (6 lb) cat and around a pint of bloody fluid was extracted (which was found to contain squamous or cancer cells). We lost her shortly after to this fast moving cancer, as the fluid built up again very quickly and we could not watch her suffer. Sorry to bear less-than-positive input, but this was our experience. Please talk to your vet about this. Jennifer (and Smoosh) On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: > Thank you, Lee! I talked to my vet who is concerned that because of his > stress levels, we should see if his current treatment will help enough. He is > concerned that being hospitalized for a transfusion will be too much for him. > He gets EXTREMELY stressed to the point of making himself violently ill. He > was a feral cat for most of his life so he hates cars and all other people. > Anyway, he seems to be improving a tiny bit although I am hoping it isn’t my > mind playing tricks on me. I am excited that he is drinking water again and I > am hopeful that he will start eating on his own. > > No fleas…I haven’t let him outside (or any of my cats) for the last 4 years. > > Anyway, thanks again, Lee! > > From: Lee Evans [mailto:moonsiste...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:01 PM > To: Matt Pardo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice > > Roughy needs a transfusion if his breathing is labored. The anemia is getting > him. Can you take him to a clinic that offers blood-matching transfusions? My > poor Bunny had labored breathing and progressive anemia towards the end. Her > bone marrow was not producing any red cells. Maybe you can buy some time for > Roughy. His bone marrow may still be producing red cells but not in the > quantity he needs. If he gets a good dose of healthy blood, it will help him > eat again. You may need to stop the cortisone. You need a second opinion from > a vet who is up on the latest data regarding feline leukemia. What Roughy may > have is non-generative anemia but maybe not. He may still be in the stage of > generating red cells. Have you treated him for fleas? Cats can also get flea > anemia which responds well to a transfusion. > > > On Sunday, September 14, 2014 7:14 PM, Matt Pardo > wrote: > > > Thanks for the feedback, Lee. We were hoping that Roughy had turned negative > because we have had him for four years. He is our only FeLV+ cat and he is > FIV+/FeLV+. I feel like a real idiot for not getting him tested. I should > have been prepared for this. Right now, I am just praying we get through the > weekend. His breathing seems so difficult and I know he hasn’t slept very > much (nor have I). I am reading more about treatments and I am not sure my > vet is very current on treatments. He is a great vet, but he didn’t present > any real options. Ugh. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee > Evans > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:54 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice > > Hi Matt - I have had several cats who turned from FeLv+ to negative. One who > turned back to positive after turning to negative passed away very quickly. > Odd case because my other "turned cat" lived to be 12 years old. He was about > a year old when I rescued him, he was positive and then turned negative. > Lived a pretty long life too, considering he had been a street cat before I > got him. I still have one who was both FeLv+ and FIV+. He turned negative > for leukemia but not for FIV but FIV is not a serious issue around my place. > They usually live as long as negative cats. > > I was under the impression that cats who are positive for leukemia are not > supposed to be given cortisone shots or oral cortisone medication. It will > increase a cat's appetite for a while, but not for long. Cortisone also has a > bad effect on the cat's kidneys if given regularly. I could not find anything > current on Facebook although there are a couple of pages for Leukemia > positive cats but no postings since 2011 and 2012. I don't think you will be > getting any up to the minute information on those pages. > > On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo > wrote: > > Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking throug
Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice
Thank you, Lee! I talked to my vet who is concerned that because of his stress levels, we should see if his current treatment will help enough. He is concerned that being hospitalized for a transfusion will be too much for him. He gets EXTREMELY stressed to the point of making himself violently ill. He was a feral cat for most of his life so he hates cars and all other people. Anyway, he seems to be improving a tiny bit although I am hoping it isn’t my mind playing tricks on me. I am excited that he is drinking water again and I am hopeful that he will start eating on his own. No fleas…I haven’t let him outside (or any of my cats) for the last 4 years. Anyway, thanks again, Lee! From: Lee Evans [mailto:moonsiste...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:01 PM To: Matt Pardo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Roughy needs a transfusion if his breathing is labored. The anemia is getting him. Can you take him to a clinic that offers blood-matching transfusions? My poor Bunny had labored breathing and progressive anemia towards the end. Her bone marrow was not producing any red cells. Maybe you can buy some time for Roughy. His bone marrow may still be producing red cells but not in the quantity he needs. If he gets a good dose of healthy blood, it will help him eat again. You may need to stop the cortisone. You need a second opinion from a vet who is up on the latest data regarding feline leukemia. What Roughy may have is non-generative anemia but maybe not. He may still be in the stage of generating red cells. Have you treated him for fleas? Cats can also get flea anemia which responds well to a transfusion. On Sunday, September 14, 2014 7:14 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Thanks for the feedback, Lee. We were hoping that Roughy had turned negative because we have had him for four years. He is our only FeLV+ cat and he is FIV+/FeLV+. I feel like a real idiot for not getting him tested. I should have been prepared for this. Right now, I am just praying we get through the weekend. His breathing seems so difficult and I know he hasn’t slept very much (nor have I). I am reading more about treatments and I am not sure my vet is very current on treatments. He is a great vet, but he didn’t present any real options. Ugh. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Hi Matt - I have had several cats who turned from FeLv+ to negative. One who turned back to positive after turning to negative passed away very quickly. Odd case because my other "turned cat" lived to be 12 years old. He was about a year old when I rescued him, he was positive and then turned negative. Lived a pretty long life too, considering he had been a street cat before I got him. I still have one who was both FeLv+ and FIV+. He turned negative for leukemia but not for FIV but FIV is not a serious issue around my place. They usually live as long as negative cats. I was under the impression that cats who are positive for leukemia are not supposed to be given cortisone shots or oral cortisone medication. It will increase a cat's appetite for a while, but not for long. Cortisone also has a bad effect on the cat's kidneys if given regularly. I could not find anything current on Facebook although there are a couple of pages for Leukemia positive cats but no postings since 2011 and 2012. I don't think you will be getting any up to the minute information on those pages. On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered before. My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tr
Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice
Thanks for the idea. He didn't go for it so I am syringe feeding him. I appreciate it! -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 10:09 AM To: Lee Evans; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice WHEN MY GUYS GO OFF THEIR FEED, I LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE THEM WANT TO EAT, LIKE CHICKEN LIVERS IN A BLENDER . IF HE WON'T EAT IT ON HIS OWN, TRY USING A SYRINGE AND GIVE HIM JUST A LITTLE BIT SO HE GETS THE TASTE AND THEN HE MAY EAT ON HIS OWN. Lee Evans wrote: > Hi Matt - I have had several cats who turned from FeLv+ to negative. One who > turned back to positive after turning to negative passed away very quickly. > Odd case because my other "turned cat" lived to be 12 years old. He was about > a year old when I rescued him, he was positive and then turned negative. > Lived a pretty long life too, considering he had been a street cat before I > got him. I still have one who was both FeLv+ and FIV+. He turned negative > for leukemia but not for FIV but FIV is not a serious issue around my place. > They usually live as long as negative cats. I was under the impression that cats who are positive for leukemia are not supposed to be given cortisone shots or oral cortisone medication. It will increase a cat's appetite for a while, but not for long. Cortisone also has a bad effect on the cat's kidneys if given regularly. I could not find anything current on Facebook although there are a couple of pages for Leukemia positive cats but no postings since 2011 and 2012. I don't think you will be getting any up to the minute information on those pages. On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: > > > >Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives >for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered >before. > >My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for >about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he >didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely >anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab >results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on >Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He >gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a >day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I >am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg >per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced >and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last >night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really >appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is > ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. > >Thanks! > >Matt > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks Katherine! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katherine K. Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Matt, I'm sorry Roughy is having a hard time. I'm thinking of you both this morning. Katherine On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Maya D'Alessio mailto:mde...@gmail.com>> wrote: Just wanted to send my emotional support to you and Roughy. I will keep you in my thoughts. I lost my cat soul-mate, Yang to a VERY sudden and shocking onset of FeLV (we didn't know she was positive, and she was only 3) only a few months ago. I hope your outcome is much happier. Just remember that you've given Roughy an amazing life, and continue to do so for as long as he is in your life. Sending all our love! On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Thanks Marsha! I will check it out! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] On Behalf Of Marsha Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice There are also veterinarians available on JustAnswer.com. $20. I gave Milkdud dexamethasone injections, rather than the pills, so that may be different. Marsha On 9/14/2014 1:47 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: Thanks so much, Susan! I will get on that page asap. I am sticking with the label since I am hoping the system is more correct. I appreciate the quick reply! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Grimes Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Hi Matt and Roughy!! I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate dosage for dex (which is a steroid). I don't have a for-sure answer for you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient due to several autoimmune diseases. This I know in humans, oral steroids are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short acting medication. I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct. The best avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book. There is a page for "Owners of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats" There are some very active ppl with a lot of experience that will answer pretty quickly. I have had only a couple posts here. I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily. Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health, Susan and Sophia On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered before. My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. Thanks! Matt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Maya D'Alessio PhD student B1 377B, x32320 Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator Biology GSA Vice Chair GSA Director At-Large University of Waterloo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mail
Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice
Thank you, Maya. I really appreciate it! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Just wanted to send my emotional support to you and Roughy. I will keep you in my thoughts. I lost my cat soul-mate, Yang to a VERY sudden and shocking onset of FeLV (we didn't know she was positive, and she was only 3) only a few months ago. I hope your outcome is much happier. Just remember that you've given Roughy an amazing life, and continue to do so for as long as he is in your life. Sending all our love! On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Thanks Marsha! I will check it out! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] On Behalf Of Marsha Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice There are also veterinarians available on JustAnswer.com. $20. I gave Milkdud dexamethasone injections, rather than the pills, so that may be different. Marsha On 9/14/2014 1:47 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: Thanks so much, Susan! I will get on that page asap. I am sticking with the label since I am hoping the system is more correct. I appreciate the quick reply! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Grimes Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Hi Matt and Roughy!! I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate dosage for dex (which is a steroid). I don't have a for-sure answer for you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient due to several autoimmune diseases. This I know in humans, oral steroids are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short acting medication. I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct. The best avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book. There is a page for "Owners of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats" There are some very active ppl with a lot of experience that will answer pretty quickly. I have had only a couple posts here. I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily. Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health, Susan and Sophia On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered before. My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. Thanks! Matt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Maya D'Alessio PhD student B1 377B, x32320 Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator Biology GSA Vice Chair GSA Director At-Large University of Waterloo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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JUST READ THE SIDE EFFECTS OF CORTIZONE. IT IS BAD STUFF FROM DAY ONE. Lee Evans wrote: > Hi Matt - I have had several cats who turned from FeLv+ to negative. One who > turned back to positive after turning to negative passed away very quickly. > Odd case because my other "turned cat" lived to be 12 years old. He was about > a year old when I rescued him, he was positive and then turned negative. > Lived a pretty long life too, considering he had been a street cat before I > got him. I still have one who was both FeLv+ and FIV+. He turned negative > for leukemia but not for FIV but FIV is not a serious issue around my place. > They usually live as long as negative cats. I was under the impression that cats who are positive for leukemia are not supposed to be given cortisone shots or oral cortisone medication. It will increase a cat's appetite for a while, but not for long. Cortisone also has a bad effect on the cat's kidneys if given regularly. I could not find anything current on Facebook although there are a couple of pages for Leukemia positive cats but no postings since 2011 and 2012. I don't think you will be getting any up to the minute information on those pages. On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: > > > >Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives >for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered >before. > >My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for >about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he >didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely >anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab >results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on >Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He >gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a >day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I >am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg >per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced >and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last >night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really >appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is > ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. > >Thanks! > >Matt > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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WHEN MY GUYS GO OFF THEIR FEED, I LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE THEM WANT TO EAT, LIKE CHICKEN LIVERS IN A BLENDER . IF HE WON'T EAT IT ON HIS OWN, TRY USING A SYRINGE AND GIVE HIM JUST A LITTLE BIT SO HE GETS THE TASTE AND THEN HE MAY EAT ON HIS OWN. Lee Evans wrote: > Hi Matt - I have had several cats who turned from FeLv+ to negative. One who > turned back to positive after turning to negative passed away very quickly. > Odd case because my other "turned cat" lived to be 12 years old. He was about > a year old when I rescued him, he was positive and then turned negative. > Lived a pretty long life too, considering he had been a street cat before I > got him. I still have one who was both FeLv+ and FIV+. He turned negative > for leukemia but not for FIV but FIV is not a serious issue around my place. > They usually live as long as negative cats. I was under the impression that cats who are positive for leukemia are not supposed to be given cortisone shots or oral cortisone medication. It will increase a cat's appetite for a while, but not for long. Cortisone also has a bad effect on the cat's kidneys if given regularly. I could not find anything current on Facebook although there are a couple of pages for Leukemia positive cats but no postings since 2011 and 2012. I don't think you will be getting any up to the minute information on those pages. On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: > > > >Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives >for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered >before. > >My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for >about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he >didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely >anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab >results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on >Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He >gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a >day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I >am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg >per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced >and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last >night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really >appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is > ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. > >Thanks! > >Matt > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Matt, I'm sorry Roughy is having a hard time. I'm thinking of you both this morning. Katherine On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote: > Just wanted to send my emotional support to you and Roughy. I will keep > you in my thoughts. > > I lost my cat soul-mate, Yang to a VERY sudden and shocking onset of FeLV > (we didn't know she was positive, and she was only 3) only a few months > ago. I hope your outcome is much happier. Just remember that you've given > Roughy an amazing life, and continue to do so for as long as he is in your > life. > > Sending all our love! > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Matt Pardo > wrote: > >> Thanks Marsha! I will check it out! >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Marsha >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:39 PM >> >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice >> >> >> >> There are also veterinarians available on JustAnswer.com. $20. I gave >> Milkdud dexamethasone injections, rather than the pills, so that may be >> different. >> >> Marsha >> >> On 9/14/2014 1:47 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: >> >> Thanks so much, Susan! I will get on that page asap. I am sticking with >> the label since I am hoping the system is more correct. >> >> >> >> I appreciate the quick reply! >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> ] *On Behalf Of *Susan Grimes >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:40 PM >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice >> >> >> >> Hi Matt and Roughy!! >> >> I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate >> dosage for dex (which is a steroid). I don't have a for-sure answer for >> you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient >> due to several autoimmune diseases. This I know in humans, oral steroids >> are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short >> acting medication. >> >> >> >> I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct. The best >> avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book. There is a page for "Owners >> of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats" There are some very active ppl with a lot >> of experience that will answer pretty quickly. I have had only a couple >> posts here. I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily. >> >> >> >> Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health, >> >> Susan and Sophia >> >> >> >> On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo < >> mpa...@velocitystorm.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the >> archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been >> answered before. >> >> >> >> My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him >> for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, >> he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was >> extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy >> of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of >> dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I >> took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn >> he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 >> hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per >> pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is >> the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy >> had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still >> seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if >> that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t >> get him. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Matt >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Felvtalk mailing list >> >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.
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Roughy needs a transfusion if his breathing is labored. The anemia is getting him. Can you take him to a clinic that offers blood-matching transfusions? My poor Bunny had labored breathing and progressive anemia towards the end. Her bone marrow was not producing any red cells. Maybe you can buy some time for Roughy. His bone marrow may still be producing red cells but not in the quantity he needs. If he gets a good dose of healthy blood, it will help him eat again. You may need to stop the cortisone. You need a second opinion from a vet who is up on the latest data regarding feline leukemia. What Roughy may have is non-generative anemia but maybe not. He may still be in the stage of generating red cells. Have you treated him for fleas? Cats can also get flea anemia which responds well to a transfusion. On Sunday, September 14, 2014 7:14 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: > > >Thanks for the feedback, Lee. We were hoping that Roughy had turned negative >because we have had him for four years. He is our only FeLV+ cat and he is >FIV+/FeLV+. I feel like a real idiot for not getting him tested. I should have >been prepared for this. Right now, I am just praying we get through the >weekend. His breathing seems so difficult and I know he hasn’t slept very much >(nor have I). I am reading more about treatments and I am not sure my vet is >very current on treatments. He is a great vet, but he didn’t present any real >options. Ugh. > >From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee >Evans >Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:54 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice > >Hi Matt - I have had several cats who turned from FeLv+ to negative. One who >turned back to positive after turning to negative passed away very quickly. >Odd case because my other "turned cat" lived to be 12 years old. He was about >a year old when I rescued him, he was positive and then turned negative. Lived >a pretty long life too, considering he had been a street cat before I got him. > I still have one who was both FeLv+ and FIV+. He turned negative for leukemia >but not for FIV but FIV is not a serious issue around my place. They usually >live as long as negative cats. > >I was under the impression that cats who are positive for leukemia are not >supposed to be given cortisone shots or oral cortisone medication. It will >increase a cat's appetite for a while, but not for long. Cortisone also has a >bad effect on the cat's kidneys if given regularly. I could not find anything >current on Facebook although there are a couple of pages for Leukemia positive >cats but no postings since 2011 and 2012. I don't think you will be getting >any up to the minute information on those pages. > >On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo >wrote: > >>Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives >>for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered >>before. >> >>My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for >>about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he >>didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely >>anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab >>results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone >>on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He >>gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a >>day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that >>I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 >>mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have >>experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night >>Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I >>would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. >> >>Thanks! >> >>Matt >> >> >>___ >>Felvtalk mailing list >>Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Just wanted to send my emotional support to you and Roughy. I will keep you in my thoughts. I lost my cat soul-mate, Yang to a VERY sudden and shocking onset of FeLV (we didn't know she was positive, and she was only 3) only a few months ago. I hope your outcome is much happier. Just remember that you've given Roughy an amazing life, and continue to do so for as long as he is in your life. Sending all our love! On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: > Thanks Marsha! I will check it out! > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Marsha > *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:39 PM > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice > > > > There are also veterinarians available on JustAnswer.com. $20. I gave > Milkdud dexamethasone injections, rather than the pills, so that may be > different. > > Marsha > > On 9/14/2014 1:47 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: > > Thanks so much, Susan! I will get on that page asap. I am sticking with > the label since I am hoping the system is more correct. > > > > I appreciate the quick reply! > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Susan Grimes > *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:40 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice > > > > Hi Matt and Roughy!! > > I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate > dosage for dex (which is a steroid). I don't have a for-sure answer for > you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient > due to several autoimmune diseases. This I know in humans, oral steroids > are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short > acting medication. > > > > I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct. The best > avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book. There is a page for "Owners > of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats" There are some very active ppl with a lot > of experience that will answer pretty quickly. I have had only a couple > posts here. I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily. > > > > Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health, > > Susan and Sophia > > > > On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo < > mpa...@velocitystorm.com> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the > archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been > answered before. > > > > My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him > for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, > he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was > extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy > of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of > dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I > took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn > he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 > hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per > pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is > the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy > had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still > seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if > that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t > get him. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Matt > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Maya D'Alessio PhD student B1 377B, x32320 Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator Biology GSA Vice Chair GSA Director At-Large University of Waterloo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks Marsha! I will check it out! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice There are also veterinarians available on JustAnswer.com. $20. I gave Milkdud dexamethasone injections, rather than the pills, so that may be different. Marsha On 9/14/2014 1:47 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: Thanks so much, Susan! I will get on that page asap. I am sticking with the label since I am hoping the system is more correct. I appreciate the quick reply! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Grimes Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Hi Matt and Roughy!! I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate dosage for dex (which is a steroid). I don't have a for-sure answer for you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient due to several autoimmune diseases. This I know in humans, oral steroids are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short acting medication. I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct. The best avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book. There is a page for "Owners of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats" There are some very active ppl with a lot of experience that will answer pretty quickly. I have had only a couple posts here. I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily. Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health, Susan and Sophia On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives for an answer, but haven't found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered before. My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he didn't eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely anemic...unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab results so I can't say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can't get him. Thanks! Matt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Kelley, the group is here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/ and the name is Owners of FeLV+/ FIV+ cats<https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/> Thanks again Susan (and Sophia)! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley S Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 4:35 PM To: felvtalk Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Hi Susan, I'm not finding that page, can you link to it? I searched for Owners of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats and came up with nothing. Thanks, Kelley, Cleo and Merlin On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Marsha mailto:mar...@lynxe.com>> wrote: There are also veterinarians available on JustAnswer.com. $20. I gave Milkdud dexamethasone injections, rather than the pills, so that may be different. Marsha On 9/14/2014 1:47 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: Thanks so much, Susan! I will get on that page asap. I am sticking with the label since I am hoping the system is more correct. I appreciate the quick reply! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Grimes Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Hi Matt and Roughy!! I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate dosage for dex (which is a steroid). I don't have a for-sure answer for you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient due to several autoimmune diseases. This I know in humans, oral steroids are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short acting medication. I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct. The best avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book. There is a page for "Owners of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats" There are some very active ppl with a lot of experience that will answer pretty quickly. I have had only a couple posts here. I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily. Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health, Susan and Sophia On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered before. My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. Thanks! Matt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks for the feedback, Lee. We were hoping that Roughy had turned negative because we have had him for four years. He is our only FeLV+ cat and he is FIV+/FeLV+. I feel like a real idiot for not getting him tested. I should have been prepared for this. Right now, I am just praying we get through the weekend. His breathing seems so difficult and I know he hasn’t slept very much (nor have I). I am reading more about treatments and I am not sure my vet is very current on treatments. He is a great vet, but he didn’t present any real options. Ugh. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Hi Matt - I have had several cats who turned from FeLv+ to negative. One who turned back to positive after turning to negative passed away very quickly. Odd case because my other "turned cat" lived to be 12 years old. He was about a year old when I rescued him, he was positive and then turned negative. Lived a pretty long life too, considering he had been a street cat before I got him. I still have one who was both FeLv+ and FIV+. He turned negative for leukemia but not for FIV but FIV is not a serious issue around my place. They usually live as long as negative cats. I was under the impression that cats who are positive for leukemia are not supposed to be given cortisone shots or oral cortisone medication. It will increase a cat's appetite for a while, but not for long. Cortisone also has a bad effect on the cat's kidneys if given regularly. I could not find anything current on Facebook although there are a couple of pages for Leukemia positive cats but no postings since 2011 and 2012. I don't think you will be getting any up to the minute information on those pages. On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered before. My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. Thanks! Matt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Matt - I have had several cats who turned from FeLv+ to negative. One who turned back to positive after turning to negative passed away very quickly. Odd case because my other "turned cat" lived to be 12 years old. He was about a year old when I rescued him, he was positive and then turned negative. Lived a pretty long life too, considering he had been a street cat before I got him. I still have one who was both FeLv+ and FIV+. He turned negative for leukemia but not for FIV but FIV is not a serious issue around my place. They usually live as long as negative cats. I was under the impression that cats who are positive for leukemia are not supposed to be given cortisone shots or oral cortisone medication. It will increase a cat's appetite for a while, but not for long. Cortisone also has a bad effect on the cat's kidneys if given regularly. I could not find anything current on Facebook although there are a couple of pages for Leukemia positive cats but no postings since 2011 and 2012. I don't think you will be getting any up to the minute information on those pages. On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: > > > >Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives >for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered >before. > >My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for >about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he >didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely >anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab >results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on >Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He >gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a >day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I >am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg >per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced >and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last >night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really >appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. > >Thanks! > >Matt > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Susan, I'm not finding that page, can you link to it? I searched for Owners of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats and came up with nothing. Thanks, Kelley, Cleo and Merlin On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Marsha wrote: > There are also veterinarians available on JustAnswer.com. $20. I gave > Milkdud dexamethasone injections, rather than the pills, so that may be > different. > > Marsha > > > On 9/14/2014 1:47 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: > > Thanks so much, Susan! I will get on that page asap. I am sticking with > the label since I am hoping the system is more correct. > > > > I appreciate the quick reply! > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Susan Grimes > *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:40 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice > > > > Hi Matt and Roughy!! > > I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate > dosage for dex (which is a steroid). I don't have a for-sure answer for > you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient > due to several autoimmune diseases. This I know in humans, oral steroids > are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short > acting medication. > > > > I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct. The best > avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book. There is a page for "Owners > of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats" There are some very active ppl with a lot > of experience that will answer pretty quickly. I have had only a couple > posts here. I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily. > > > > Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health, > > Susan and Sophia > > > > On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo < > mpa...@velocitystorm.com> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the > archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been > answered before. > > > > My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him > for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, > he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was > extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy > of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of > dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I > took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn > he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 > hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per > pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is > the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy > had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still > seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if > that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t > get him. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Matt > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing > listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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There are also veterinarians available on JustAnswer.com. $20. I gave Milkdud dexamethasone injections, rather than the pills, so that may be different. Marsha On 9/14/2014 1:47 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: Thanks so much, Susan! I will get on that page asap. I am sticking with the label since I am hoping the system is more correct. I appreciate the quick reply! *From:*Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan Grimes *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:40 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Hi Matt and Roughy!! I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate dosage for dex (which is a steroid). I don't have a for-sure answer for you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient due to several autoimmune diseases. This I know in humans, oral steroids are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short acting medication. I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct. The best avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book. There is a page for "Owners of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats" There are some very active ppl with a lot of experience that will answer pretty quickly. I have had only a couple posts here. I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily. Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health, Susan and Sophia On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives for an answer, but haven't found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered before. My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he didn't eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely anemic...unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab results so I can't say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can't get him. Thanks! Matt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks so much, Susan! I will get on that page asap. I am sticking with the label since I am hoping the system is more correct. I appreciate the quick reply! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Grimes Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice Hi Matt and Roughy!! I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate dosage for dex (which is a steroid). I don't have a for-sure answer for you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient due to several autoimmune diseases. This I know in humans, oral steroids are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short acting medication. I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct. The best avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book. There is a page for "Owners of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats" There are some very active ppl with a lot of experience that will answer pretty quickly. I have had only a couple posts here. I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily. Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health, Susan and Sophia On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo mailto:mpa...@velocitystorm.com>> wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered before. My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. Thanks! Matt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Matt and Roughy!! I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate dosage for dex (which is a steroid). I don't have a for-sure answer for you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient due to several autoimmune diseases. This I know in humans, oral steroids are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short acting medication. I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct. The best avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book. There is a page for "Owners of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats" There are some very active ppl with a lot of experience that will answer pretty quickly. I have had only a couple posts here. I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily. Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health, Susan and Sophia On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered before. My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t get him. Thanks! Matt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] need some help/advice
Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the archives for an answer, but haven't found it yet. Sorry if this has been answered before. My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday, he didn't eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was extremely anemic...unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy of the lab results so I can't say what that means. He gave him a shot of dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can't get him. Thanks! Matt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
