Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin

2007-09-30 Thread wendy
Hey  Glenda,

I just read the post below.  It says there is a veterinary school in Austin, 
TX, but the only veterinary school in Texas is at Texas AM University in 
College Station, probably a couple of hours or more from Austin.  I just wanted 
to clarify that in case someone reading the post tried to find one in Austin.  
University of Texas (in Austin) does not have a veterinary school (not yet 
anyway).

:)
Wendy
 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


- Original Message 
From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:38:46 AM
Subject: Re: Here is the link


Tonya,
I'm going to answer you directly on this, since you
addressed me personally. Ok ,this is the deal: I'm new
here, I have picked up the basics and I have learned
them well. I am not a gambler. Maybe that is the core
difference between those of us not willing to risk
mixing our FeLV+ guys with our FIV+ guys. I was
incredibly touched by Sherry's love and enthusiasim
for her most adored little kitty Mystique. My heart
just goes out to Sherry so much. I cry almost always
when I read about these kitties dying and I just want
to give all you guys a big hug when one of you is
hurting. 
When I was told Mystique was only FIV+ I felt so happy
and hopeful. When I was told she was mixing freely
with FeLV+ kitties everyday, swapping saliva, etc. I
panicked. Remember, I AM NOT A GAMBLER. 
I told Sherry my feelings, as gently as possible. I
have so far in the short time I have been on this
list, been told over and over again, that the FeLV
vaccine is only 75% -90% effective...It used to be
only 75%-85%, but there is talk, now, that there has
been a slight improvement. My personal vets also tell
me these #'s , so at least I feel I am as informed as
anyone here. 
As for FIV+ kitties, I have researched thir disease
too. I worked hard a couple months back to convince a
couple people here, in my town, not to put their FIV+
kittens to sleep over this disease. I researched and
studied for several days to learn all I could to back
my argument. I learned #1 : that their immune system
is compromised. I learned#2: that this disease is much
easier to deal with than FeLV. I learned often kittens
can throw this disease, if say, contracted through the
mother. This disease is a piece of cake, compared to
Felv. I also learned it is possible for a non- gambler
like myself, to mix an FIV+ kitty with my disease free
guys as long as the FIV+ guy does not tend to fight
and bite...I also learned FIV+ guys can have a longer
natural life than Felv+guys...
Everyone, who has been here a while, has to know these
same things ,but some here are willing to GAMBLE and
some are NOT. 
I do not feel I can afford to risk any cat's life that
is in my care by mixing a FeLV+ with my healthy group
and if I happened to have an FIV+ kitty I would be
even more paranoid to mix with a FelV+ kitty. 
If there is anyone here, that can tell me some
SCIENTIFIC REASON, I am wrong in my opinion, PLEASE
come back to me . I came here to learn. I appreciate
the stories of how this person or that ,might have had
a disease free cat live 20+ years among FeLV+ kitties
and never contract the disease. This is where I get my
hope. This makes me feel so happy, gives me
strength...These stories are almost as helpful to my
spirit as the actual scientific information I get here
is  helpful to my mind. I also, love just the
emotional support here. I think these three things is
what keeps most of us here? 
A sibling of mine, is a veterinarin. While researching
which university to go to, came up with the opinion
the three best schools in the country for veterinary
medicine were as follows,  University of Colorado, in
Fort Collins, The University of California in Napa,
and lastly,the the University right down there in
Austin, Texas where Susan is. All very renowed in the
world of veterinary medicine...I just realized that
last night after reeling from something I read hateful
here...
Nobody here is without a clue and nobody here is
stupid . I never heard anything of the sort said,
until yesterday. UGH!
All I can say is GOD BLESS everyone of you loving,
dear people and let's all try to get along, learn from
each other and appreciate our differences. The reason
we are here, is for our cats first. We just all want
to do what is right for them...Too bad people have to
be so jacked up...oh well, ENOUGH ! Have a good day!

--- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Glenda,

   In my approximately 10 years on this list I have
 never heard of a cat with fiv 'catching' felv from a
 mixed situation.  Now cats do test initially
 sometimes for both.  But I have had fiv cats mixed
 with felv with no problem.

   It's not a perfect world, and Sherry and Crash's
 Landing do so much good that I think you should calm
 down on the heavy judgements.
   

Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin

2007-09-30 Thread Kelley Saveika
Glenda is no longer on the list.

Yes, Austin has no veterinary school.  Typically the land grant
college in each state will have the vet school, the other one will
not.

Virginia Tech has a vet school, University of Virginia does not.
Auburn has a vet school, University of Alabama does not.

There are a few states that do not follow this pattern.  Tennessee,
Florida, Georgia, Minnesota, Missouri.

Not every state has a veterinary school - Maryland shares one with Virginia.

On 9/30/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey  Glenda,

 I just read the post below.  It says there is a veterinary school in Austin, 
 TX, but the only veterinary school in Texas is at Texas AM University in 
 College Station, probably a couple of hours or more from Austin.  I just 
 wanted to clarify that in case someone reading the post tried to find one in 
 Austin.  University of Texas (in Austin) does not have a veterinary school 
 (not yet anyway).

 :)
 Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
 the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


 - Original Message 
 From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:38:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Here is the link


 Tonya,
 I'm going to answer you directly on this, since you
 addressed me personally. Ok ,this is the deal: I'm new
 here, I have picked up the basics and I have learned
 them well. I am not a gambler. Maybe that is the core
 difference between those of us not willing to risk
 mixing our FeLV+ guys with our FIV+ guys. I was
 incredibly touched by Sherry's love and enthusiasim
 for her most adored little kitty Mystique. My heart
 just goes out to Sherry so much. I cry almost always
 when I read about these kitties dying and I just want
 to give all you guys a big hug when one of you is
 hurting.
 When I was told Mystique was only FIV+ I felt so happy
 and hopeful. When I was told she was mixing freely
 with FeLV+ kitties everyday, swapping saliva, etc. I
 panicked. Remember, I AM NOT A GAMBLER.
 I told Sherry my feelings, as gently as possible. I
 have so far in the short time I have been on this
 list, been told over and over again, that the FeLV
 vaccine is only 75% -90% effective...It used to be
 only 75%-85%, but there is talk, now, that there has
 been a slight improvement. My personal vets also tell
 me these #'s , so at least I feel I am as informed as
 anyone here.
 As for FIV+ kitties, I have researched thir disease
 too. I worked hard a couple months back to convince a
 couple people here, in my town, not to put their FIV+
 kittens to sleep over this disease. I researched and
 studied for several days to learn all I could to back
 my argument. I learned #1 : that their immune system
 is compromised. I learned#2: that this disease is much
 easier to deal with than FeLV. I learned often kittens
 can throw this disease, if say, contracted through the
 mother. This disease is a piece of cake, compared to
 Felv. I also learned it is possible for a non- gambler
 like myself, to mix an FIV+ kitty with my disease free
 guys as long as the FIV+ guy does not tend to fight
 and bite...I also learned FIV+ guys can have a longer
 natural life than Felv+guys...
 Everyone, who has been here a while, has to know these
 same things ,but some here are willing to GAMBLE and
 some are NOT.
 I do not feel I can afford to risk any cat's life that
 is in my care by mixing a FeLV+ with my healthy group
 and if I happened to have an FIV+ kitty I would be
 even more paranoid to mix with a FelV+ kitty.
 If there is anyone here, that can tell me some
 SCIENTIFIC REASON, I am wrong in my opinion, PLEASE
 come back to me . I came here to learn. I appreciate
 the stories of how this person or that ,might have had
 a disease free cat live 20+ years among FeLV+ kitties
 and never contract the disease. This is where I get my
 hope. This makes me feel so happy, gives me
 strength...These stories are almost as helpful to my
 spirit as the actual scientific information I get here
 is  helpful to my mind. I also, love just the
 emotional support here. I think these three things is
 what keeps most of us here?
 A sibling of mine, is a veterinarin. While researching
 which university to go to, came up with the opinion
 the three best schools in the country for veterinary
 medicine were as follows,  University of Colorado, in
 Fort Collins, The University of California in Napa,
 and lastly,the the University right down there in
 Austin, Texas where Susan is. All very renowed in the
 world of veterinary medicine...I just realized that
 last night after reeling from something I read hateful
 here...
 Nobody here is without a clue and nobody here is
 stupid . I never heard anything of the sort said,
 until yesterday. UGH!
 All I can say is GOD BLESS everyone of you loving,
 dear people and let's all try to get along, learn from
 each other and appreciate our 

Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin

2007-09-30 Thread wendy
hey kelley,

interesting to know!  what does 'land grant' mean?

thanks,
:)
wendy
 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


- Original Message 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:05:51 AM
Subject: Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin


Glenda is no longer on the list.

Yes, Austin has no veterinary school.  Typically the land grant
college in each state will have the vet school, the other one will
not.

Virginia Tech has a vet school, University of Virginia does not.
Auburn has a vet school, University of Alabama does not.

There are a few states that do not follow this pattern.  Tennessee,
Florida, Georgia, Minnesota, Missouri.

Not every state has a veterinary school - Maryland shares one with Virginia.

On 9/30/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey  Glenda,

 I just read the post below.  It says there is a veterinary school in Austin, 
 TX, but the only veterinary school in Texas is at Texas AM University in 
 College Station, probably a couple of hours or more from Austin.  I just 
 wanted to clarify that in case someone reading the post tried to find one in 
 Austin.  University of Texas (in Austin) does not have a veterinary school 
 (not yet anyway).

 :)
 Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
 the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


 - Original Message 
 From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:38:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Here is the link


 Tonya,
 I'm going to answer you directly on this, since you
 addressed me personally. Ok ,this is the deal: I'm new
 here, I have picked up the basics and I have learned
 them well. I am not a gambler. Maybe that is the core
 difference between those of us not willing to risk
 mixing our FeLV+ guys with our FIV+ guys. I was
 incredibly touched by Sherry's love and enthusiasim
 for her most adored little kitty Mystique. My heart
 just goes out to Sherry so much. I cry almost always
 when I read about these kitties dying and I just want
 to give all you guys a big hug when one of you is
 hurting.
 When I was told Mystique was only FIV+ I felt so happy
 and hopeful. When I was told she was mixing freely
 with FeLV+ kitties everyday, swapping saliva, etc. I
 panicked. Remember, I AM NOT A GAMBLER.
 I told Sherry my feelings, as gently as possible. I
 have so far in the short time I have been on this
 list, been told over and over again, that the FeLV
 vaccine is only 75% -90% effective...It used to be
 only 75%-85%, but there is talk, now, that there has
 been a slight improvement. My personal vets also tell
 me these #'s , so at least I feel I am as informed as
 anyone here.
 As for FIV+ kitties, I have researched thir disease
 too. I worked hard a couple months back to convince a
 couple people here, in my town, not to put their FIV+
 kittens to sleep over this disease. I researched and
 studied for several days to learn all I could to back
 my argument. I learned #1 : that their immune system
 is compromised. I learned#2: that this disease is much
 easier to deal with than FeLV. I learned often kittens
 can throw this disease, if say, contracted through the
 mother. This disease is a piece of cake, compared to
 Felv. I also learned it is possible for a non- gambler
 like myself, to mix an FIV+ kitty with my disease free
 guys as long as the FIV+ guy does not tend to fight
 and bite...I also learned FIV+ guys can have a longer
 natural life than Felv+guys...
 Everyone, who has been here a while, has to know these
 same things ,but some here are willing to GAMBLE and
 some are NOT.
 I do not feel I can afford to risk any cat's life that
 is in my care by mixing a FeLV+ with my healthy group
 and if I happened to have an FIV+ kitty I would be
 even more paranoid to mix with a FelV+ kitty.
 If there is anyone here, that can tell me some
 SCIENTIFIC REASON, I am wrong in my opinion, PLEASE
 come back to me . I came here to learn. I appreciate
 the stories of how this person or that ,might have had
 a disease free cat live 20+ years among FeLV+ kitties
 and never contract the disease. This is where I get my
 hope. This makes me feel so happy, gives me
 strength...These stories are almost as helpful to my
 spirit as the actual scientific information I get here
 is  helpful to my mind. I also, love just the
 emotional support here. I think these three things is
 what keeps most of us here?
 A sibling of mine, is a veterinarin. While researching
 which university to go to, came up with the opinion
 the three best schools in the country for veterinary
 medicine were as follows,  University of Colorado, in
 Fort Collins, The University of California in Napa,
 and lastly,the the University right down there in
 Austin

Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin

2007-09-30 Thread Kelley Saveika
Land-grant universities (also called land-grant colleges or land grant
institutions) are institutions of higher education in the United
States that have been designated by the United States Congress to
receive the benefits of the Morrill Acts of 1862 and 1890.

The Morrill Acts funded educational institutions by granting federally
controlled land to the states. The mission of these institutions, as
set forth in the 1862 Act, is to teach agriculture, military tactics,
and the mechanic arts, not to the exclusion of classical studies, so
that members of the working classes might obtain a practical college
education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-grant_university

On 9/30/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hey kelley,

 interesting to know!  what does 'land grant' mean?

 thanks,
 :)
 wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
 the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


 - Original Message 
 From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:05:51 AM
 Subject: Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin


 Glenda is no longer on the list.

 Yes, Austin has no veterinary school.  Typically the land grant
 college in each state will have the vet school, the other one will
 not.

 Virginia Tech has a vet school, University of Virginia does not.
 Auburn has a vet school, University of Alabama does not.

 There are a few states that do not follow this pattern.  Tennessee,
 Florida, Georgia, Minnesota, Missouri.

 Not every state has a veterinary school - Maryland shares one with Virginia.

 On 9/30/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey  Glenda,
 
  I just read the post below.  It says there is a veterinary school in 
  Austin, TX, but the only veterinary school in Texas is at Texas AM 
  University in College Station, probably a couple of hours or more from 
  Austin.  I just wanted to clarify that in case someone reading the post 
  tried to find one in Austin.  University of Texas (in Austin) does not have 
  a veterinary school (not yet anyway).
 
  :)
  Wendy
 
  Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
  the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
  ~~~
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:38:46 AM
  Subject: Re: Here is the link
 
 
  Tonya,
  I'm going to answer you directly on this, since you
  addressed me personally. Ok ,this is the deal: I'm new
  here, I have picked up the basics and I have learned
  them well. I am not a gambler. Maybe that is the core
  difference between those of us not willing to risk
  mixing our FeLV+ guys with our FIV+ guys. I was
  incredibly touched by Sherry's love and enthusiasim
  for her most adored little kitty Mystique. My heart
  just goes out to Sherry so much. I cry almost always
  when I read about these kitties dying and I just want
  to give all you guys a big hug when one of you is
  hurting.
  When I was told Mystique was only FIV+ I felt so happy
  and hopeful. When I was told she was mixing freely
  with FeLV+ kitties everyday, swapping saliva, etc. I
  panicked. Remember, I AM NOT A GAMBLER.
  I told Sherry my feelings, as gently as possible. I
  have so far in the short time I have been on this
  list, been told over and over again, that the FeLV
  vaccine is only 75% -90% effective...It used to be
  only 75%-85%, but there is talk, now, that there has
  been a slight improvement. My personal vets also tell
  me these #'s , so at least I feel I am as informed as
  anyone here.
  As for FIV+ kitties, I have researched thir disease
  too. I worked hard a couple months back to convince a
  couple people here, in my town, not to put their FIV+
  kittens to sleep over this disease. I researched and
  studied for several days to learn all I could to back
  my argument. I learned #1 : that their immune system
  is compromised. I learned#2: that this disease is much
  easier to deal with than FeLV. I learned often kittens
  can throw this disease, if say, contracted through the
  mother. This disease is a piece of cake, compared to
  Felv. I also learned it is possible for a non- gambler
  like myself, to mix an FIV+ kitty with my disease free
  guys as long as the FIV+ guy does not tend to fight
  and bite...I also learned FIV+ guys can have a longer
  natural life than Felv+guys...
  Everyone, who has been here a while, has to know these
  same things ,but some here are willing to GAMBLE and
  some are NOT.
  I do not feel I can afford to risk any cat's life that
  is in my care by mixing a FeLV+ with my healthy group
  and if I happened to have an FIV+ kitty I would be
  even more paranoid to mix with a FelV+ kitty.
  If there is anyone here, that can tell me some
  SCIENTIFIC REASON, I am wrong in my opinion, PLEASE
  come back to me . I

Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin

2007-09-30 Thread wendy
thanks Kelley!  i will file that info. away on my mental rolodex...

:)
Wendy
 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


- Original Message 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:18:36 AM
Subject: Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin


Land-grant universities (also called land-grant colleges or land grant
institutions) are institutions of higher education in the United
States that have been designated by the United States Congress to
receive the benefits of the Morrill Acts of 1862 and 1890.

The Morrill Acts funded educational institutions by granting federally
controlled land to the states. The mission of these institutions, as
set forth in the 1862 Act, is to teach agriculture, military tactics,
and the mechanic arts, not to the exclusion of classical studies, so
that members of the working classes might obtain a practical college
education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-grant_university

On 9/30/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hey kelley,

 interesting to know!  what does 'land grant' mean?

 thanks,
 :)
 wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
 the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


 - Original Message 
 From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:05:51 AM
 Subject: Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin


 Glenda is no longer on the list.

 Yes, Austin has no veterinary school.  Typically the land grant
 college in each state will have the vet school, the other one will
 not.

 Virginia Tech has a vet school, University of Virginia does not.
 Auburn has a vet school, University of Alabama does not.

 There are a few states that do not follow this pattern.  Tennessee,
 Florida, Georgia, Minnesota, Missouri.

 Not every state has a veterinary school - Maryland shares one with Virginia.

 On 9/30/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey  Glenda,
 
  I just read the post below.  It says there is a veterinary school in 
  Austin, TX, but the only veterinary school in Texas is at Texas AM 
  University in College Station, probably a couple of hours or more from 
  Austin.  I just wanted to clarify that in case someone reading the post 
  tried to find one in Austin.  University of Texas (in Austin) does not have 
  a veterinary school (not yet anyway).
 
  :)
  Wendy
 
  Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
  the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
  ~~~
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:38:46 AM
  Subject: Re: Here is the link
 
 
  Tonya,
  I'm going to answer you directly on this, since you
  addressed me personally. Ok ,this is the deal: I'm new
  here, I have picked up the basics and I have learned
  them well. I am not a gambler. Maybe that is the core
  difference between those of us not willing to risk
  mixing our FeLV+ guys with our FIV+ guys. I was
  incredibly touched by Sherry's love and enthusiasim
  for her most adored little kitty Mystique. My heart
  just goes out to Sherry so much. I cry almost always
  when I read about these kitties dying and I just want
  to give all you guys a big hug when one of you is
  hurting.
  When I was told Mystique was only FIV+ I felt so happy
  and hopeful. When I was told she was mixing freely
  with FeLV+ kitties everyday, swapping saliva, etc. I
  panicked. Remember, I AM NOT A GAMBLER.
  I told Sherry my feelings, as gently as possible. I
  have so far in the short time I have been on this
  list, been told over and over again, that the FeLV
  vaccine is only 75% -90% effective...It used to be
  only 75%-85%, but there is talk, now, that there has
  been a slight improvement. My personal vets also tell
  me these #'s , so at least I feel I am as informed as
  anyone here.
  As for FIV+ kitties, I have researched thir disease
  too. I worked hard a couple months back to convince a
  couple people here, in my town, not to put their FIV+
  kittens to sleep over this disease. I researched and
  studied for several days to learn all I could to back
  my argument. I learned #1 : that their immune system
  is compromised. I learned#2: that this disease is much
  easier to deal with than FeLV. I learned often kittens
  can throw this disease, if say, contracted through the
  mother. This disease is a piece of cake, compared to
  Felv. I also learned it is possible for a non- gambler
  like myself, to mix an FIV+ kitty with my disease free
  guys as long as the FIV+ guy does not tend to fight
  and bite...I also learned FIV+ guys can have a longer
  natural life than Felv+guys...
  Everyone, who has been here

Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin

2007-09-30 Thread OfALegend
I just wanted to clarify, though its really not important, that Tennessee  
does have a veterinary school at a land grant university.  The University  of 
Tennessee College of Veterinary Medicine, which is a Land-Grand  University.
 
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Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin

2007-09-30 Thread Kelley Saveika
Sorry, I'm not really that familiar with Tennessee!  I know Virginia
and Alabama because my dad and brother both graduated from Virginia
Tech and I graduated from UA.  Is UT the only state university?  I
know that there's Vanderbilt, but that's privately supported if my
info is correct.

K

On 9/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just wanted to clarify, though its really not important, that Tennessee
 does have a veterinary school at a land grant university.  The University of
 Tennessee College of Veterinary Medicine, which is a Land-Grand University.

 Michael


 
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Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin

2007-09-30 Thread OfALegend
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Re: Here is the link/vet school in austin

2007-09-30 Thread OfALegend
Vanderbilt is a private school.  The system in TN is sort of unique, I  
believe.  We have the University of Tennessee system, which governs the UT  
schools: Knoxville, Chattanooga, Martin.
 
We also have the Tennessee Board of Regents system that governs Tennessee  
State University (our other land grant school-Memphis I think), Austin Peay  
State University (middle TN-Clarksville), Middle Tennessee State University  
(Murfreesboro), East Tennessee State University (NE TN, Johnson City), and  
Tennessee Technological University (Middle TN-  Crossville).



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