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Title: Message Leslie, I'm way behind with posts, but glad to hear Satch is doing better. I'm sending lots of healing vibes for your sweetie. Kerry M. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeslieSent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:01 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Satch is coughing - less Hi everyone, Thank you for your posts and advice. The diluted herbal tincture seemed to revive him some. He did throw up once more, but it was a stomach full of mucous - some of it finally got out! Oddly, the tincture is brown and the vomit didn't have this coloring, can your tummy decided what to give up? Since then, he's been more interested in eating and has put in some kibble, liver paste. Not much, but he is improving. He chased the laser pointer all around last night which was nice to watch. His meow is back also, not the hoarse, muted sound he's been making, but his more forceful, clear meow. Never thought I'd say that it was good to hear, but it definitely is. :) My boyfriend has assured me that he does not have a problem giving Satch what he needs, and as the temp is gone, he seems hydrated still,and the appetite is returning, I feel okay with that. I've given an arsenalof different things to try to feed him. I weighed Satch yesterday and he hasn't lost any weight, maybe some ounces because I can't remember 13 lbs "what" from the last vet visit, but he is still 13 lbs something as of last night. So it looks like the vet was right - shocking. :) He is done with the antibiotics on Friday, so the appetite should roar back after that, but I like that it's improving now. I also felt that perhaps my hypervigilance wasn't really helping the situation. Ed will be observing him more holistically, he won't be taking temps or following him around fretting, the overload of info wasn't really helping me, but driving me nuts. He'll treat him and love him and call the vet if things start to change, but he'll be much less mother hen about it, and I can't say that I think that will be bad. Talk to you soon, and I hope with continued good news. Thanks again for all of the support and advice. Leslie IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Satch is coughing - less
Hi everyone, Thank you for your posts and advice. The diluted herbal tincture seemed to revive him some. He did throw up once more, but it was a stomach full of mucous - some of it finally got out! Oddly, the tincture is brown and the vomit didn't have this coloring, can your tummy decided what to give up? Since then, he's been more interested in eating and has put in some kibble, liver paste. Not much, but he is improving. He chased the laser pointer all around last night which was nice to watch. His meow is back also, not the hoarse, muted sound he's been making, but his more forceful, clear meow. Never thought I'd say that it was good to hear, but it definitely is. :) My boyfriend has assured me that he does not have a problem giving Satch what he needs, and as the temp is gone, he seems hydrated still,and the appetite is returning, I feel okay with that. I've given an arsenalof different things to try to feed him. I weighed Satch yesterday and he hasn't lost any weight, maybe some ounces because I can't remember 13 lbs what from the last vet visit, but he is still 13 lbs something as of last night. So it looks like the vet was right - shocking. :) He is done with the antibiotics on Friday, so the appetite should roar back after that, but I like that it's improving now. I also felt that perhaps my hypervigilance wasn't really helping the situation. Ed will be observing him more holistically, he won't be taking temps or following him around fretting, the overload of info wasn't really helping me, but driving me nuts. He'll treat him and love him and call the vet if things start to change, but he'll be much less mother hen about it, and I can't say that I think that will be bad. Talk to you soon, and I hope with continued good news. Thanks again for all of the support and advice. Leslie
RE: Satch is coughing - less
I'm glad Satch -- and you -- are "turning the corner" on this situation. The playing is a very good sign, always, and the uncongested meow! ;-) Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeslieSent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:01 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Satch is coughing - less Hi everyone, Thank you for your posts and advice. The diluted herbal tincture seemed to revive him some. He did throw up once more, but it was a stomach full of mucous - some of it finally got out! Oddly, the tincture is brown and the vomit didn't have this coloring, can your tummy decided what to give up? Since then, he's been more interested in eating and has put in some kibble, liver paste. Not much, but he is improving. He chased the laser pointer all around last night which was nice to watch. His meow is back also, not the hoarse, muted sound he's been making, but his more forceful, clear meow. Never thought I'd say that it was good to hear, but it definitely is. :) My boyfriend has assured me that he does not have a problem giving Satch what he needs, and as the temp is gone, he seems hydrated still,and the appetite is returning, I feel okay with that. I've given an arsenalof different things to try to feed him. I weighed Satch yesterday and he hasn't lost any weight, maybe some ounces because I can't remember 13 lbs "what" from the last vet visit, but he is still 13 lbs something as of last night. So it looks like the vet was right - shocking. :) He is done with the antibiotics on Friday, so the appetite should roar back after that, but I like that it's improving now. I also felt that perhaps my hypervigilance wasn't really helping the situation. Ed will be observing him more holistically, he won't be taking temps or following him around fretting, the overload of info wasn't really helping me, but driving me nuts. He'll treat him and love him and call the vet if things start to change, but he'll be much less mother hen about it, and I can't say that I think that will be bad. Talk to you soon, and I hope with continued good news. Thanks again for all of the support and advice. Leslie This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Satch is coughing
Leslie,I hope Satch is eating better by now. It always seems they get sick at the worst times.tonyaLeslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond, but things change so fast and I hate writing all optimistically just to be congratulated and have to reply with bad news.Satch held his appetite and a ~102 degree fever over the weekend. It dropped to 100 yesterday, is back up in the 101 degree range today. His spirits seemed to gather yesterday, as his appetite waned. His congestion sounds just awful, I wish that there was kitty expectorant to give him. Nothing much is coming out and I wonder if the coughing is making his throat sore and hence the not eating. I hate not eating cats! They make me want to curl up and cry. He's not going to be easy to force feed. He hasn't stopped completely, but compared to what he normally eats, he may as well have. When do you start the force feeding? How long do you give them to regain interest? Again, his spirits seem good, he slept close last night, isn't in hiding, he hangs out in the windows and meows like he wants food, then when it's pointed out to him, he just walks away. He's still drinking water on his own. Does he know that he'll vomit if he eats and that's why he doesn't? I don't want to add vomiting to the mix. When I put more tuna in his mouth he gagged it back up. Same thing with some fancy feast. He ate some of my raw food last night, not much. He ate some baby food last night, licked it off of my fingers, but again, not much. He ate some tuna/drank the juice, but not much this morning. I'm off to the store for a humidifier to help with the breathing and the makings of the liver shake. I'll call the vet again today to get his take. If he says to start the forcefeeding, I don't know what to do. I'm supposed to go back home to St Louis for four days tomorrow to see family. I can't leave a cat that needs to get force fed with someone. My boyfriend was going to watch him, and I was okay leaving him the task of giving the Clavamox, but he's a dog person (who also loves Satch) - so asking him to force feed seems unfair to both parties. I'll ask the vet today what the Western Herbal Tincture was intended to do, I don't think that it's meant to be ongoing, it made Satch vomit, so I stopped using it.I'm so distraught, I don't know what to do. I just want him to eat again. I can't leave him not eating, but how can I explain to my 97 year old grandmother that I canceled my trip to come back and see her for a sick cat? Leslie --Message: 5Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:41:39 -0700From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Satch is coughingTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedOh for God's sake, Satch better be okay.With situations like this Iusually stop praying to Spirit and start threatening :).You did good taking him in right away.It sounds like you met a nice new vet in theprocess and he knows about the 'don't wait and see approach for a pos',that's a good sign!I like that he was encouraging you to adopt another too.Yep, I like his attitude.Find out what the herb is that he putSatchmo on and let us know what it is, we're always looking for benignways to improve immune response, (I assume that's what the herb isfor?).How is Satchmo doing now?Any more coughing?Are you positiveit wasn't just a hairball?Keep us informed,Nina
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Hi, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond, but things change so fast and I hate writing all optimistically just to be congratulated and have to reply with bad news. Satch held his appetite and a ~102 degree fever over the weekend. It dropped to 100 yesterday, is back up in the 101 degree range today. His spirits seemed to gather yesterday, as his appetite waned. His congestion sounds just awful, I wish that there was kitty expectorant to give him. Nothing much is coming out and I wonder if the coughing is making his throat sore and hence the not eating. I hate not eating cats! They make me want to curl up and cry. He's not going to be easy to force feed. He hasn't stopped completely, but compared to what he normally eats, he may as well have. When do you start the force feeding? How long do you give them to regain interest? Again, his spirits seem good, he slept close last night, isn't in hiding, he hangs out in the windows and meows like he wants food, then when it's pointed out to him, he just walks away. He's still drinking water on his own. Does he know that he'll vomit if he eats and that's why he doesn't? I don't want to add vomiting to the mix. When I put more tuna in his mouth he gagged it back up. Same thing with some fancy feast. He ate some of my raw food last night, not much. He ate some baby food last night, licked it off of my fingers, but again, not much. He ate some tuna/drank the juice, but not much this morning. I'm off to the store for a humidifier to help with the breathing and the makings of the liver shake. I'll call the vet again today to get his take. If he says to start the forcefeeding, I don't know what to do. I'm supposed to go back home to St Louis for four days tomorrow to see family. I can't leave a cat that needs to get force fed with someone. My boyfriend was going to watch him, and I was okay leaving him the task of giving the Clavamox, but he's a dog person (who also loves Satch) - so asking him to force feed seems unfair to both parties. I'll ask the vet today what the Western Herbal Tincture was intended to do, I don't think that it's meant to be ongoing, it made Satch vomit, so I stopped using it. I'm so distraught, I don't know what to do. I just want him to eat again. I can't leave him not eating, but how can I explain to my 97 year old grandmother that I canceled my trip to come back and see her for a sick cat? Leslie --Message: 5Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:41:39 -0700From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Satch is coughingTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedOh for God's sake, Satch better be okay.With situations like this Iusually stop praying to Spirit and start threatening :).You did good taking him in right away.It sounds like you met a nice new vet in theprocess and he knows about the 'don't wait and see approach for a pos',that's a good sign!I like that he was encouraging you to adopt another too.Yep, I like his attitude.Find out what the herb is that he putSatchmo on and let us know what it is, we're always looking for benignways to improve immune response, (I assume that's what the herb is for?).How is Satchmo doing now?Any more coughing?Are you positiveit wasn't just a hairball?Keep us informed,Nina
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Hi Leslie, Sorry for all of your turmoil about your trip. Can you have Satch boarded at your vets office while you are gone? That way they can force feed him (and they are usually pros at it) or even give him nutrients via IV if necessary. It would give you alot more peace of mind during your trip... Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Leslie wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:47:54 -0700 From: Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Satch is coughing Hi, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond, but things change so fast and I hate writing all optimistically just to be congratulated and have to reply with bad news. Satch held his appetite and a ~102 degree fever over the weekend. It dropped to 100 yesterday, is back up in the 101 degree range today. His spirits seemed to gather yesterday, as his appetite waned. His congestion sounds just awful, I wish that there was kitty expectorant to give him. Nothing much is coming out and I wonder if the coughing is making his throat sore and hence the not eating. I hate not eating cats! They make me want to curl up and cry. He's not going to be easy to force feed. He hasn't stopped completely, but compared to what he normally eats, he may as well have. When do you start the force feeding? How long do you give them to regain interest? Again, his spirits seem good, he slept close last night, isn't in hiding, he hangs out in the windows and meows like he wants food, then when it's pointed out to him, he just walks away. He's still drinking water on his own. Does he know that he'll vomit if he eats and that's why he doesn't? I don't want to add vomiting to the mix. When I put more tuna in his mouth he gagged it back up. Same thing with some fancy feast. He ate some of my raw food last night, not much. He ate some baby food last night, licked it off of my fingers, but again, not much. He ate some tuna/drank the juice, but not much this morning. I'm off to the store for a humidifier to help with the breathing and the makings of the liver shake. I'll call the vet again today to get his take. If he says to start the forcefeeding, I don't know what to do. I'm supposed to go back home to St Louis for four days tomorrow to see family. I can't leave a cat that needs to get force fed with someone. My boyfriend was going to watch him, and I was okay leaving him the task of giving the Clavamox, but he's a dog person (who also loves Satch) - so asking him to force feed seems unfair to both parties. I'll ask the vet today what the Western Herbal Tincture was intended to do, I don't think that it's meant to be ongoing, it made Satch vomit, so I stopped using it. I'm so distraught, I don't know what to do. I just want him to eat again. I can't leave him not eating, but how can I explain to my 97 year old grandmother that I canceled my trip to come back and see her for a sick cat? Leslie -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:41:39 -0700 From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Satch is coughing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oh for God's sake, Satch better be okay. With situations like this I usually stop praying to Spirit and start threatening :). You did good taking him in right away. It sounds like you met a nice new vet in the process and he knows about the 'don't wait and see approach for a pos', that's a good sign! I like that he was encouraging you to adopt another too. Yep, I like his attitude. Find out what the herb is that he put Satchmo on and let us know what it is, we're always looking for benign ways to improve immune response, (I assume that's what the herb is for?). How is Satchmo doing now? Any more coughing? Are you positive it wasn't just a hairball? Keep us informed, Nina
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Hi Kat, Thank you for the suggestion, it's good one. When the vet calls back I'll ask if he has any recommendations, I don't believe that they board at their office. If the cost is more than changing the ticket, then I'll stay, if not, I'll go. And hopefully he wouldn't need to get forcefed the whole five days, so my boyfriend could pick up him before I got back, butI should be prepared for that. I'mcalmer now, I've woken up a tiny bit more. I was awakejust pettingSatch and listening to him breathe the better part of the night, so I'm a little cranky and a touch emotional. :) I just can't see this being it for him. He's in such good health otherwise, and the cost of bringing a sweet little kitten home to pass canNOT be his life. The world just canNOT work like that. I'm adamant also. :) Leslie Hi Leslie,Sorry for all of your turmoil about your trip.Can you have Satch boarded at your vets office while you are gone? That way they can force feed him (and they are usually pros at it)or even give him nutrients via IV if necessary.It would give you alotmore peace of mind during your trip...Kat (Mew Jersey)On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Leslie wrote:
Re: Satch is coughing
Hi Leslie, I wish Satch were doing better for you. I know you are frustrated. Several people here have said that you can use people expectorants with kitties but I don't know any more than that. Maybe someone will post more, or you can call and ask your vet. Also, there may be info. on it in the sick kitty manual that I sent out. Either way, I would double check with my vet before I used anything OTC. How much food do you think Satch is actually getting down each day? You shouldn't let him go long without getting enough nutrition. I am not sure how much he actually needs per day; I think that info. is in the sick kitty manual as well. Your vet can give you canned A/D to syringe feed him. It's VERY smooth and mixed with a little water is great for syringe feeding. Good luck with the liver shake. I hope he likes it. None of mine will eat it unfortunately. Syringe feeding isn't hard. I hold my kitties like a baby with their heads up a little higher than their body and syringe the food in very slowly, so they don't gag, into the side of their mouths. Can you take the kitty to St. Louis with you? Unless he starts eating soon, I would not leave him. You can cancel plane tickets and use them again usually for a $50 cancellation fee that you don't pay until you rebook the flight. If you leave and Satch dies, you will probably feel guilty forever, being the loving human that you are. If you can't take Satch with you, I'm sure your grandmother will understand delaying your trip a couple of weeks. As sweet as your boyfriend is, if Satch is attached to you, he may not do well while you are gone. Please keep us posted Leslie. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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If you do board your kitty, make sure that the vet is a good one. I had a nightmare experience with leaving my cat at the vet's and if I hadn't gone to pick him up, he would have died. They did NOT syringe feed him, NOR give him any IV fluids, even after I had asked them to. I complained to the Texas Vet. Board to no avail. That board is currently being revamped to get rid of the good ol' boy system they've had for years to protect one another. Sorry to scare you, but I just don't think that the vet can care for our babies as well as we can (short of surgery), and they sure don't love them like we do. :) Wendy --- Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leslie, Sorry for all of your turmoil about your trip. Can you have Satch boarded at your vets office while you are gone? That way they can force feed him (and they are usually pros at it) or even give him nutrients via IV if necessary. It would give you alot more peace of mind during your trip... Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Leslie wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:47:54 -0700 From: Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Satch is coughing Hi, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond, but things change so fast and I hate writing all optimistically just to be congratulated and have to reply with bad news. Satch held his appetite and a ~102 degree fever over the weekend. It dropped to 100 yesterday, is back up in the 101 degree range today. His spirits seemed to gather yesterday, as his appetite waned. His congestion sounds just awful, I wish that there was kitty expectorant to give him. Nothing much is coming out and I wonder if the coughing is making his throat sore and hence the not eating. I hate not eating cats! They make me want to curl up and cry. He's not going to be easy to force feed. He hasn't stopped completely, but compared to what he normally eats, he may as well have. When do you start the force feeding? How long do you give them to regain interest? Again, his spirits seem good, he slept close last night, isn't in hiding, he hangs out in the windows and meows like he wants food, then when it's pointed out to him, he just walks away. He's still drinking water on his own. Does he know that he'll vomit if he eats and that's why he doesn't? I don't want to add vomiting to the mix. When I put more tuna in his mouth he gagged it back up. Same thing with some fancy feast. He ate some of my raw food last night, not much. He ate some baby food last night, licked it off of my fingers, but again, not much. He ate some tuna/drank the juice, but not much this morning. I'm off to the store for a humidifier to help with the breathing and the makings of the liver shake. I'll call the vet again today to get his take. If he says to start the forcefeeding, I don't know what to do. I'm supposed to go back home to St Louis for four days tomorrow to see family. I can't leave a cat that needs to get force fed with someone. My boyfriend was going to watch him, and I was okay leaving him the task of giving the Clavamox, but he's a dog person (who also loves Satch) - so asking him to force feed seems unfair to both parties. I'll ask the vet today what the Western Herbal Tincture was intended to do, I don't think that it's meant to be ongoing, it made Satch vomit, so I stopped using it. I'm so distraught, I don't know what to do. I just want him to eat again. I can't leave him not eating, but how can I explain to my 97 year old grandmother that I canceled my trip to come back and see her for a sick cat? Leslie -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:41:39 -0700 From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Satch is coughing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oh for God's sake, Satch better be okay. With situations like this I usually stop praying to Spirit and start threatening :). You did good taking him in right away. It sounds like you met a nice new vet in the process and he knows about the 'don't wait and see approach for a pos', that's a good sign! I like that he was encouraging you to adopt another too. Yep, I like his attitude. Find out what the herb is that he put Satchmo on and let us know what it is, we're always looking for benign ways to improve immune response, (I assume that's what the herb is for?). How is Satchmo doing now? Any more coughing? Are you positive it wasn't just a hairball? Keep us informed, Nina __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hi Wendy, Thanks for writing. The vet said that the herbal tincture was actually meant to help with the congestion and that I should dilute it if it was making him sick. So I've just given that to him, we'll see if he can keep it down. I'll give that to him in smaller doses more frequently to see if it can help. I admit that I read in the cat veterinary handbook that said that Robitussinwas the only decongestant that would be okay and I gave him a couple of doses. Now that I know that the tincture was meant to do that, I'm switching back. The vet was adamant that I not put him in either a shelter or even a vet's office while I'm gone. He feels strongly that the stress of that situation would far outweigh staying in his comfort zone. He isn't worried about the appetite diminishing. He said that the antibiotic can do that and that as long as he's alert, acting like himself, the temp is down, and he still shows interest in the food, if brief, that he will be okay. He made me feel better in general and with leaving him, but if things turn worse, you're right, I will feel so bad personally, but also for my boyfriend to have been put through that. I'll call the airline now and see what it will cost. I think that the fee will be more like $130, but comparatively it might be worth it. He licked the liver shake off of my finger, but wasn't interested in the plate of it that I put down for him. Leslie From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Satch is coughing Hi Leslie,I wish Satch were doing better for you.I know youare frustrated.Several people here have said that you can use people expectorants with kitties but Idon't know any more than that.Maybe someone willpost more, or you can call and ask your vet.Also,there may be info. on it in the sick kitty manual that I sent out.Either way, I would double check with myvet before I used anything OTC.How much food do youthink Satch is actually getting down each day?Youshouldn't let him go long without getting enough nutrition.I am not sure how much he actually needsper day; I think that info. is in the sick kittymanual as well.Your vet can give you canned A/D tosyringe feed him.It's VERY smooth and mixed with a little water is great for syringe feeding.Good luckwith the liver shake.I hope he likes it.None ofmine will eat it unfortunately.Syringe feeding isn'thard.I hold my kitties like a baby with their heads up a little higher than their body and syringe thefood in very slowly, so they don't gag, into the sideof their mouths.Can you take the kitty to St. Louiswith you?Unless he starts eating soon, I would not leave him.You can cancel plane tickets and use themagain usually for a $50 cancellation fee that youdon't pay until you rebook the flight.If you leaveand Satch dies, you will probably feel guilty forever, being the loving human that you are.If you can'ttake Satch with you, I'm sure your grandmother willunderstand delaying your trip a couple of weeks.Assweet as your boyfriend is, if Satch is attached to you, he may not do well while you are gone.Pleasekeep us posted Leslie.:)Wendy__Message: 4Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT)From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Satch is coughingTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1If you do board your kitty, make sure that the vet isa good one.I had a nightmare experience with leaving my cat at the vet's and if I hadn't gone to pick himup, he would have died.They did NOT syringe feedhim, NOR give him any IV fluids, even after I hadasked them to.I complained to the Texas Vet. Board to no avail.That board is currently being revampedto get rid of the good ol' boy system they've had foryears to protect one another.Sorry to scare you, butI just don't think that the vet can care for our babies as well as we can (short of surgery), and theysure don't love them like we do.:)Wendy
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Hi, I was just on vacation and hired an incredible cat sitter. I got really lucky, she did some research on Felv+ kitties and was great with my girls. Might it be possible for you to find a petsitter or travelling vet in your area? I know it's tough to find someone you can trust with Satch! Good luck! Maggie
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Leslie, Have you tried sprinkling a little catnip on Satch's food? Sometimes that's enough to entice Mio into eating when she's not feeling well. Just makes sure not to mix it in or else the food will cover up the catnip smell. Kiley From: Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Satch is coughing. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:23:03 -0700 Hi Wendy, Thanks for writing. The vet said that the herbal tincture was actually meant to help with the congestion and that I should dilute it if it was making him sick. So I've just given that to him, we'll see if he can keep it down. I'll give that to him in smaller doses more frequently to see if it can help. I admit that I read in the cat veterinary handbook that said that Robitussin was the only decongestant that would be okay and I gave him a couple of doses. Now that I know that the tincture was meant to do that, I'm switching back. The vet was adamant that I not put him in either a shelter or even a vet's office while I'm gone. He feels strongly that the stress of that situation would far outweigh staying in his comfort zone. He isn't worried about the appetite diminishing. He said that the antibiotic can do that and that as long as he's alert, acting like himself, the temp is down, and he still shows interest in the food, if brief, that he will be okay. He made me feel better in general and with leaving him, but if things turn worse, you're right, I will feel so bad personally, but also for my boyfriend to have been put through that. I'll call the airline now and see what it will cost. I think that the fee will be more like $130, but comparatively it might be worth it. He licked the liver shake off of my finger, but wasn't interested in the plate of it that I put down for him. Leslie From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Satch is coughing Hi Leslie, I wish Satch were doing better for you. I know you are frustrated. Several people here have said that you can use people expectorants with kitties but I don't know any more than that. Maybe someone will post more, or you can call and ask your vet. Also, there may be info. on it in the sick kitty manual that I sent out. Either way, I would double check with my vet before I used anything OTC. How much food do you think Satch is actually getting down each day? You shouldn't let him go long without getting enough nutrition. I am not sure how much he actually needs per day; I think that info. is in the sick kitty manual as well. Your vet can give you canned A/D to syringe feed him. It's VERY smooth and mixed with a little water is great for syringe feeding. Good luck with the liver shake. I hope he likes it. None of mine will eat it unfortunately. Syringe feeding isn't hard. I hold my kitties like a baby with their heads up a little higher than their body and syringe the food in very slowly, so they don't gag, into the side of their mouths. Can you take the kitty to St. Louis with you? Unless he starts eating soon, I would not leave him. You can cancel plane tickets and use them again usually for a $50 cancellation fee that you don't pay until you rebook the flight. If you leave and Satch dies, you will probably feel guilty forever, being the loving human that you are. If you can't take Satch with you, I'm sure your grandmother will understand delaying your trip a couple of weeks. As sweet as your boyfriend is, if Satch is attached to you, he may not do well while you are gone. Please keep us posted Leslie. :) Wendy __ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Satch is coughing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 If you do board your kitty, make sure that the vet is a good one. I had a nightmare experience with leaving my cat at the vet's and if I hadn't gone to pick him up, he would have died. They did NOT syringe feed him, NOR give him any IV fluids, even after I had asked them to. I complained to the Texas Vet. Board to no avail. That board is currently being revamped to get rid of the good ol' boy system they've had for years to protect one another. Sorry to scare you, but I just don't think that the vet can care for our babies as well as we can (short of surgery), and they sure don't love them like we do. :) Wendy
Re: Satch is coughing.
Hi. I would give him Immuno-regulin shots (article on website), which have really helped a few of our cats with URI's. Also, I would syringe feed him to get food into him, as he can get fatty liver disease if he goes more than a day or two without real nutrition. Michelle
Satch is coughing
Oh for God's sake, Satch better be okay. With situations like this I usually stop praying to Spirit and start threatening :). You did good taking him in right away. It sounds like you met a nice new vet in the process and he knows about the 'don't wait and see approach for a pos', that's a good sign! I like that he was encouraging you to adopt another too. Yep, I like his attitude. Find out what the herb is that he put Satchmo on and let us know what it is, we're always looking for benign ways to improve immune response, (I assume that's what the herb is for?). How is Satchmo doing now? Any more coughing? Are you positive it wasn't just a hairball? Keep us informed, Nina Leslie wrote: Heeheehee. Yes, Nina, you have pushed it too far. :) Not for lack of want, but budget/living space/landlord-wise 2 is my cap. And honestly, 2 below the knee and me is a pretty good fit. One day though...one day. :) I took Satch to the vet today because he's picked up Azrael's cold. I tried my best to keep their air separate, but I guess that I wasn't that good. I washed and wore different outfits, but a small apartment is what it is. Anyway, I kind of freaked when he started making the same sounds on Wednesday night that Az had (the horky cough), even though his energy levels were high, had no fever (which I compulsively started checking), and was still consta-ravenous, but it had taken her so fast. The vet (not my normal, but another in the office) was very nice, he assured me that Satch was doing great and that I'd done the right thing to come in - the wait-and-see approach (one of my personal favorites) doesn't always end so well with positive cats, so he put Satch on Clavamox and an herb (um, it's a liquidWestern Herb? or something) to keep it from progressing. He was very confident, and like with the animals that made me feel better. So we'll see. Satch loves visiting places, so he was happy to meet a new person, even if he got poked in the toosh for the third time in one morning. This new vet also read my mind and when I asked if it was crazy to contemplate adopting another, he said no, that my odds have got to turn at some point! I was like, you ain't kiddin' mister. Leslie
