Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-31 Thread gblane
Those are great suggestions, that I haven't heard of - I've got to  
remember that!


Gloria


On Aug 30, 2005, at 3:16 PM, maimaipg wrote:

Valium was prescribed by my vet for Ebony when he was in the  
process of
leaving this world.  It helped a lot.  High protein foods appealed  
to him
the most--salmon, eggs, chicken and turkey.  In very small pieces  
of course
and small amounts at a time so as not to overwhelm him.  Try  
Willard Water

to keep him hydrated.

Good luck.
- Original Message -
From: Elizabeth Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: Won't EatPlease Help





Hi everyone,

Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?

He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a  
breath



away

from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and give him a  
chance,
even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that was treating  
kitty's eyes
were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a day for about 6  
months, he
began looking and acting healthier. then his meds were changed to  
half a

pill each day, and then finally a half a pill every other day.

August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy  
chubby



cat.

( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then  
over this
weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is not  
eating a

thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack, and no way.

We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who  
has
worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw  
was a bit
of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem,  
it took
three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was  
going to do



to


her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about the prednisone.


She

said she did not want to put him back on the prednisone at this  
time and



on

and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made it quite clear to us,( it  
was down
on his chart also )  that if we saw that he was sliding to get him  
back on

the Prednisone.  It was like talking to the wall.  She gave me an
anti-biotic for ten days for him and that was it.

Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's  
chart and
gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it  
later.
Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and  
hopefully she



will


be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please God.

I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so


frightened

from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how important  
this is



on

a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... Hepatic Lipidosis  
and it may

be fatal with his immune system..

A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to  
force his
little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did  
swallow

it, and is now sleeping.

Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.

Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and  
heartbreaking 5



days.



Thank you for taking the time to read it.

Lisa.















RE: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-31 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



Welcome back, Cherie!

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EatPlease Help
WooHoo I finally got a messageI will give my two cents on a subject I 
am assuming is still open...I use cooked hamburger, or 95% raw hamburger...also 
you can try yogart, plain

I am excited to be backyeah
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  I have found that mine like Gerbers better than Beechnut, probably 
  because it is junkier!
  Michelle
Have a purrfect day
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Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Elizabeth Paz


Hi everyone,

Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?

He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a breath away 
from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and give him a chance, 
even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that was treating kitty's eyes 
were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a day for about 6 months, he 
began looking and acting healthier. then his meds were changed to half a 
pill each day, and then finally a half a pill every other day.


August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby cat. 
( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then over this 
weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is not eating a 
thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack, and no way.


We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has 
worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was a bit 
of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, it took 
three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was going to do to 
her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about the prednisone.   She 
said she did not want to put him back on the prednisone at this time and on 
and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made it quite clear to us,( it was down 
on his chart also )  that if we saw that he was sliding to get him back on 
the Prednisone.  It was like talking to the wall.  She gave me an 
anti-biotic for ten days for him and that was it.


Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart and 
gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it later.  
Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and hopefully she will 
be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please God.


I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so frightened 
from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how important this is on 
a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... Hepatic Lipidosis and it may 
be fatal with his immune system..


A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force his 
little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did swallow 
it, and is now sleeping.


Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.

Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5 days.

Thank you for taking the time to read it.

Lisa.





Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread maimaipg
Valium was prescribed by my vet for Ebony when he was in the process of
leaving this world.  It helped a lot.  High protein foods appealed to him
the most--salmon, eggs, chicken and turkey.  In very small pieces of course
and small amounts at a time so as not to overwhelm him.  Try Willard Water
to keep him hydrated.

Good luck.
- Original Message - 
From: Elizabeth Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: Won't EatPlease Help



 Hi everyone,

 Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?

 He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a breath
away
 from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and give him a chance,
 even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that was treating kitty's eyes
 were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a day for about 6 months, he
 began looking and acting healthier. then his meds were changed to half a
 pill each day, and then finally a half a pill every other day.

 August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby
cat.
 ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then over this
 weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is not eating a
 thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack, and no way.

 We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has
 worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was a bit
 of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, it took
 three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was going to do
to
 her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about the prednisone.
She
 said she did not want to put him back on the prednisone at this time and
on
 and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made it quite clear to us,( it was down
 on his chart also )  that if we saw that he was sliding to get him back on
 the Prednisone.  It was like talking to the wall.  She gave me an
 anti-biotic for ten days for him and that was it.

 Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart and
 gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it later.
 Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and hopefully she
will
 be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please God.

 I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so
frightened
 from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how important this is
on
 a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... Hepatic Lipidosis and it may
 be fatal with his immune system..

 A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force his
 little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did swallow
 it, and is now sleeping.

 Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.

 Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5
days.

 Thank you for taking the time to read it.

 Lisa.








Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread jenmeyer
Hi Lisa!

Have you tried giving him a little l-lysine?  If he's having a problem
smelling his food (one reason that he may not want to eat), then lysine
might help clear up anything sinus-wise (and maybe even eye-wise) so
that he can smell his food again!

That said, you may want to try anything smelly...tuna, salmon, etc...if
all else fails, and he doesn't object too much, you can always try
syringe feeding him...you can pick up a large syringe at most pet stores
(Petsmart, Petco)...the easiest thing to syringe, canned food-wise, is
Hill's A/D (which can only be found at a vet's office)...or, chicken or
turkey baby food is always a good one...just make sure it doesn't have
any onion in the ingredients...Beechnut, apparently, makes a pure
chicken baby food...but I don't have that available around here, so I
use Gerber...I believe the label says Chicken with chicken gravy  ie.
there is corn starch added...

Good luck and keep us updated!  I hope he can find a little relief soon!

Jen


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you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: Elizabeth Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:17 pm
Subject: Won't EatPlease Help

 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?
 
 He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a 
 breath away 
 from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and give him a 
 chance, 
 even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that was treating 
 kitty's eyes 
 were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a day for about 6 
 months, he 
 began looking and acting healthier. then his meds were changed to 
 half a 
 pill each day, and then finally a half a pill every other day.
 
 August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy 
 chubby cat. 
 ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then 
 over this 
 weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is not 
 eating a 
 thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack, and no way.
 
 We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who 
 has 
 worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw 
 was a bit 
 of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, it 
 took 
 three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was going 
 to do to 
 her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about the 
 prednisone.   She 
 said she did not want to put him back on the prednisone at this 
 time and on 
 and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made it quite clear to us,( it 
 was down 
 on his chart also )  that if we saw that he was sliding to get him 
 back on 
 the Prednisone.  It was like talking to the wall.  She gave me an 
 anti-biotic for ten days for him and that was it.
 
 Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's 
 chart and 
 gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it 
 later.  
 Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and hopefully 
 she will 
 be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please God.
 
 I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so 
 frightened 
 from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how important 
 this is on 
 a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... Hepatic Lipidosis and 
 it may 
 be fatal with his immune system..
 
 A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force 
 his 
 little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did 
 swallow 
 it, and is now sleeping.
 
 Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.
 
 Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and 
 heartbreaking 5 days.
 
 Thank you for taking the time to read it.
 
 Lisa.
 
 
 




Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Lernermichelle


I have found that mine like Gerbers better than Beechnut, probably because it is junkier!
Michelle


Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Lernermichelle


Also try the liver shake, posted recently. Cirpiheptidine, also called something else I can not remember, is an appetite stimulant that works very well with some cats. And if he really is not eating, I would syringe feed him some to get food into him. It often jump starts their appetite too, especially if you syringe them something very palatable.
I would definitely put him back on the pred, no question. I assume that you also know about prednisolone eye drops, which are basically topical pred for the eyes.

Michelle


Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Nina

Hi Lisa,
I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love your 
Kitty.  You are right, you need to get him to eat.   It is wonderful 
that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to help him 
maintain right now.  He is in danger of HL if he goes without eating 
anything in a 24 to 48 hour period.  That means if you get something 
down him, he'll probably be okay.   I know the sound of syringe 
feeding can be intimidating.  Don't think of it as force feeding, 
think of it as assisted feeding.  Like you would a baby.  There is a 
group for help with this, here's the link: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/


Poor thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like 
that.  Not to mention the vet trip from Hell.   All he's going to want 
to do is hide.  Please try to calm yourself.  Put on some soft music and 
keep the room he's in dark.  If he wants to hide, go ahead and let him, 
(after you get his meds and some food in him of course).  Speak softly 
to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through together.  
Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, or 
puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary.  (I'd like 
to punch your substitute vet in the neck btw).


Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know how you guys are doing,
Nina


Elizabeth Paz wrote:



Hi everyone,

Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?

He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a 
breath away from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and 
give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that 
was treating kitty's eyes were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a 
day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. then 
his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half 
a pill every other day.


August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby 
cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then 
over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is 
not eating a thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack, 
and no way.


We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has 
worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was a 
bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, 
it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was 
going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about 
the prednisone.   She said she did not want to put him back on the 
prednisone at this time and on and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made 
it quite clear to us,( it was down on his chart also )  that if we saw 
that he was sliding to get him back on the Prednisone.  It was like 
talking to the wall.  She gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him 
and that was it.


Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart 
and gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it 
later.  Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and 
hopefully she will be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please 
God.


I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so 
frightened from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how 
important this is on a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... 
Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal with his immune system..


A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force 
his little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did 
swallow it, and is now sleeping.


Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.

Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5 
days.


Thank you for taking the time to read it.

Lisa.










Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread maimaipg
See if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it around
where he is and on yourself.  It will help calm him.  You also might try
catnip (organic or a plant if you can find it).  I have used both with
frightened, angry, upset cats successfully.
- Original Message - 
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Won't EatPlease Help


 Hi Lisa,
 I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love your
 Kitty.  You are right, you need to get him to eat.   It is wonderful
 that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to help him
 maintain right now.  He is in danger of HL if he goes without eating
 anything in a 24 to 48 hour period.  That means if you get something
 down him, he'll probably be okay.   I know the sound of syringe
 feeding can be intimidating.  Don't think of it as force feeding,
 think of it as assisted feeding.  Like you would a baby.  There is a
 group for help with this, here's the link:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/

 Poor thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like
 that.  Not to mention the vet trip from Hell.   All he's going to want
 to do is hide.  Please try to calm yourself.  Put on some soft music and
 keep the room he's in dark.  If he wants to hide, go ahead and let him,
 (after you get his meds and some food in him of course).  Speak softly
 to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through together.
 Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, or
 puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary.  (I'd like
 to punch your substitute vet in the neck btw).

 Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know how you guys are
doing,
 Nina


 Elizabeth Paz wrote:

 
  Hi everyone,
 
  Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?
 
  He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a
  breath away from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and
  give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that
  was treating kitty's eyes were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a
  day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. then
  his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half
  a pill every other day.
 
  August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby
  cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then
  over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is
  not eating a thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack,
  and no way.
 
  We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has
  worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was a
  bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem,
  it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was
  going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about
  the prednisone.   She said she did not want to put him back on the
  prednisone at this time and on and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made
  it quite clear to us,( it was down on his chart also )  that if we saw
  that he was sliding to get him back on the Prednisone.  It was like
  talking to the wall.  She gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him
  and that was it.
 
  Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart
  and gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it
  later.  Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and
  hopefully she will be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please
  God.
 
  I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so
  frightened from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how
  important this is on a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get...
  Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal with his immune system..
 
  A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force
  his little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did
  swallow it, and is now sleeping.
 
  Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.
 
  Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5
  days.
 
  Thank you for taking the time to read it.
 
  Lisa.
 
 
 
 
 







Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
WooHoo I finally got a messageI will give my two cents on a subject I am assuming is still open...I use cooked hamburger, or 95% raw hamburger...also you can try yogart, plain

I am excited to be backyeah
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have found that mine like Gerbers better than Beechnut, probably because it is junkier!
MichelleHave a purrfect day
Cherie


RE: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Lisa, I can emphasize your pain - my Felv positive, Ginger stopped
eating for over a week a several months ago.  

She is already a very small girl, and did not want her to lose any more
weight - so as Nina mentioned, I assisted her to eat with syringe every
day with baby food and liver shake - 

I will be praying that your kitty will bounce back very soon - so stay
calm (I know it's hard, but do your best) and talk to him gently and
tell him how much he means to you and how he is going to get better very
very soon..

Love and hugs to you and your kitty..

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Won't EatPlease Help

Hi Lisa,
I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love your 
Kitty.  You are right, you need to get him to eat.   It is wonderful 
that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to help him 
maintain right now.  He is in danger of HL if he goes without eating 
anything in a 24 to 48 hour period.  That means if you get something 
down him, he'll probably be okay.   I know the sound of syringe 
feeding can be intimidating.  Don't think of it as force feeding, 
think of it as assisted feeding.  Like you would a baby.  There is a 
group for help with this, here's the link: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/

Poor thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like 
that.  Not to mention the vet trip from Hell.   All he's going to want 
to do is hide.  Please try to calm yourself.  Put on some soft music and

keep the room he's in dark.  If he wants to hide, go ahead and let him, 
(after you get his meds and some food in him of course).  Speak softly 
to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through together.  
Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, or 
puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary.  (I'd like 
to punch your substitute vet in the neck btw).

Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know how you guys are
doing,
Nina


Elizabeth Paz wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?

 He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a 
 breath away from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and 
 give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that 
 was treating kitty's eyes were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a

 day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. then 
 his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half

 a pill every other day.

 August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby

 cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then 
 over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is 
 not eating a thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack,

 and no way.

 We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has

 worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was a

 bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, 
 it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was 
 going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about 
 the prednisone.   She said she did not want to put him back on the 
 prednisone at this time and on and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made

 it quite clear to us,( it was down on his chart also )  that if we saw

 that he was sliding to get him back on the Prednisone.  It was like 
 talking to the wall.  She gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him 
 and that was it.

 Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart 
 and gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it 
 later.  Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and 
 hopefully she will be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please

 God.

 I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so 
 frightened from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how 
 important this is on a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... 
 Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal with his immune system..

 A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force 
 his little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did 
 swallow it, and is now sleeping.

 Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.

 Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5

 days.

 Thank you for taking the time to read it.

 Lisa.











Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread catatonya
Lisa,

I hope Kitty's pred. is kicking in and the visit goes well with the optho. tomorrow. I HATE it when my vet's not available. My vet can always draw blood without the cat or myself ever even noticing she's doing it! That's why I love her even when she pisses me off about other stuff. It totally pisses me off when a vet or tech screws up a draw on a sick cat especially. You and Kitty are in my thoughts and prayers.
tonyamaimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
See if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it aroundwhere he is and on yourself. It will help calm him. You also might trycatnip (organic or a plant if you can find it). I have used both withfrightened, angry, upset cats successfully.- Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:55 PMSubject: Re: Won't EatPlease Help Hi Lisa, I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love your Kitty. You are right, you need to get him to eat. It is wonderful that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to help him maintain right now. He is in danger of HL if he goes without eating anything in a 24 to 48 hour period. That means if you get something down him, he'll probably
 be okay. I know the sound of "syringe feeding" can be intimidating. Don't think of it as "force" feeding, think of it as "assisted" feeding. Like you would a baby. There is a group for help with this, here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ Poor thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like that. Not to mention the vet trip from Hell. All he's going to want to do is hide. Please try to calm yourself. Put on some soft music and keep the room he's in dark. If he wants to hide, go ahead and let him, (after you get his meds and some food in him of course). Speak softly to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through together. Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, or puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary. (I'd like to punch your substitute vet in the neck
 btw). Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know how you guys aredoing, Nina Elizabeth Paz wrote:   Hi everyone,   Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?   He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a  breath away from having to put him to sleep. We wanted to try and  give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that  was treating kitty's eyes were against it. He was on Prednisone 5mg a  day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. then  his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half  a pill every other day.   August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby  cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of
 last week. Then  over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned) and he is  not eating a thing. I have tried everything, even his favorite snack,  and no way.   We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has  worked with us is on holiday. What a mess. The one that we saw was a  bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem,  it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was  going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about  the prednisone. She said she did not want to put him back on the  prednisone at this time and on and on and on. I told her our Dr. made  it quite clear to us,( it was down on his chart also ) that if we saw  that he was sliding to get him back on the Prednisone. It was like  talking to the wall. She
 gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him  and that was it.   Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart  and gave me a prescription for the prednisone. I will be starting it  later. Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and  hopefully she will be able to get his eyes back under control. Please  God.   I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so  frightened from every noise. I can't get him to eat. I know how  important this is on a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get...  Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal with his immune system..   A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force  his little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue. He did  swallow it, and is now sleeping.
   Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.   Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5  days.   Thank you for taking the time to read it.   Lisa. 

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
  keep putting it on your finger or syringing it, he may get his desire 
to eat back once he gets some food into him and starts feeling better.  
you are right overweight kitties are more suseptable to getting HL and a 
lot faster than a normal weight cat might.  Getting food into him right 
away is a priority.  If you have to syringe feed. give small amounts in 
the side of the mouth, give him a minute to swallow then give more.  You 
can try offereing food after he has had a bit, it may kick start his 
desire to eat.


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Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread maimaipg
Sorry to keep doing this piece meal but another idea is to find Just Born
(or a mother's milk substitute) which has worked for some of mine or whipped
cream which worked for one.  The Just Born is full of everything he needs
and reminds him of the safety of his mother.   I've had this problem several
times.  Ideas only.  Maybe one will work for you.
- Original Message - 
From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: Won't EatPlease Help


keep putting it on your finger or syringing it, he may get his desire
 to eat back once he gets some food into him and starts feeling better.
 you are right overweight kitties are more suseptable to getting HL and a
 lot faster than a normal weight cat might.  Getting food into him right
 away is a priority.  If you have to syringe feed. give small amounts in
 the side of the mouth, give him a minute to swallow then give more.  You
 can try offereing food after he has had a bit, it may kick start his
 desire to eat.

 -- 
  Belinda
 Happiness is being owned by cats ...

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Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Lernermichelle


And sour cream off your finger. Simon loved that for a while even when he would not eat other things. 
Michelle