Re: [Finale] OT Mac question
Rebuild the desktop, trash Finder Preferences, reinstall the OS and still you will not know what is happening. Patience... Ah! the lovely pizza-box 6100. I still like mine. Javier. Fellow MacUsers, I am running OS 8.6 on an old 6100/60 at one of my elementary schools. The Mac has 40MB RAM. Some of my programs are returning error message 10 when I try to quit. Although this seems harmless enough (no damage is ever done) I am curious as to what is going onand how to fix it. Any ideas? ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fear OT
Any knowledgeable person on the list: My iMac's screen has developed a slight quiver, esp. at the bottom. And, last night, turned off by itself. Sound like anything you recognize? Will it blow up, crash the HD, burn up the mother board? I write in fear ... Dean Para mí, la música es la respiración de la vida y de Dios. Per me, la musica è l'alito della vita e di Dio Pour moi, la musique est le souffle de la vie et de Dieu. Für mich ist Musik der Atem des Lebens und des Gottes. Dean M. Estabrook Director of Music St. Andrew Presbyterian Church Yuba City, CA ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Mac question
on 11/24/04 8:49 AM, Javier Ruiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rebuild the desktop, trash Finder Preferences, reinstall the OS and still you will not know what is happening. Patience... Ah! the lovely pizza-box 6100. I still like mine. Javier. Fellow MacUsers, I am running OS 8.6 on an old 6100/60 at one of my elementary schools. The Mac has 40MB RAM. Some of my programs are returning error message 10 when I try to quit. Although this seems harmless enough (no damage is ever done) I am curious as to what is going onand how to fix it. Besides Javier's suggestions, which would be the first line of defense, if you have the ability via any utility software, you might run something to check the volume bitmap, directory, etc. Like Norton or TechTool. Norton was OK back @ OS 8.x, at least on my systems back then. I don't recall ever having to reinstall the OS except in extreme cases. I wouldn't consider your situation to be extreme at this point. HTH Good luck! *** J.D. Thomas ThomaStudios West Linn OR http://www.thomastudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is moving. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Parts Extraction Methodology
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / 04.11.23 / 6:27PM wrote: Your layout should stay if you are using the regular cut and paste. But if for some reason it doesn't, lock the format before you clear out the part. (Mass Edit Tool, type cmd-A then cmd-L . Then to unlock cmd-U.) I make a habit of locking the format when I am done copying a part anyway. It is easy enough to unlock it if you need to make changes. I didn't think about this. Thank you so much for this tip. And thank you so much for your private message, too! It was very nice of you :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Mac question
Eden - Lawrence D. / 04.11.24 / 6:28AM wrote: I am running OS 8.6 on an old 6100/60 at one of my elementary schools. The Mac has 40MB RAM. Some of my programs are returning error message 10 when I try to quit. Although this seems harmless enough (no damage is ever done) I am curious as to what is going onand how to fix it. If you are talking about Type-10 error, it is a F-Line instruction error, not file/harddrive related. You might have incompatible extension or software in your system. This includes incompatible peripheral and its driver. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] File Overwrite Bug Bites Again! (FinMac2005a)
Darcy James Argue wrote: But as far as I know, this problem has only occurred after Extracting Parts with open extracted parts turned on. Then this is perhaps not Mac-specific after all! I remember getting this exact problem some Finale versions ago (I think it was in the version when this was introduced - Fin2003?) and have stayed away from the Open Extracted Part option ever since (by instinct). I do a multiple-open from the file open dialog instead, which have always worked. If I get any time available (a shortage right now), I'll see if I can reproduce it on Windows. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fear OT
Dean, How far is the lamp from your monitor? One possibility for the quiver is that the lamp's transformer (if it uses one) could be producing a large electric field which would affect your screen. I've noticed a similar situation where someone placed his computer on the opposite side of the wall from a refrigerator - huge electromagnetic fields there - everytime the compressor came on, his screen would squiggle like crazy. By the way, I would generally not plug in anything else into your computer's power strip except your computer and monitor, since they would be electrically closer to your computer and any goofiness of any of the other items on the power strip could affect your computer. In particular, I would be careful about plugging printers into the same power strip. I would put the computer on a UPS and ONLY the computer and the monitor (or related equipment, such as an external disk drive). Printers have extremely variable loads, and should not be plugged into a UPS. It would depend quite a bit on your computer why it would shut down mysteriously on you. Another factor (assuming it is external, since we can't really rule out a computer problem), is bad power from your electric company. If you have a brownout and your circuit is heavily loaded, voltage could drop quite low (below 90 volts is not uncommon) and your computer's power supply could shut down. California (I note from you sig) is quite notorious for having flaky power (so is Hawaii, for what it's worth). If you don't have a UPS, I would strongly recommend getting one. They're getting to be quite inexpensive, and well worth the cost. Bruce - Original Message - From: Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:43 am Subject: [Finale] Fear OT Ok, this is interesting. I just turned off a flouresent (sp) desk lamp plugged into the same power strip as my computer, and the screen quiver stopped. That doesn't explain why it shut down on it's own last night, but the lamp connection is obvious. Hm. Dean Para mí, la música es la respiración de la vida y de Dios. Per me, la musica è l'alito della vita e di Dio Pour moi, la musique est le souffle de la vie et de Dieu. Für mich ist Musik der Atem des Lebens und des Gottes. Dean M. Estabrook Director of Music St. Andrew Presbyterian Church Yuba City, CA ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fear OT
In a message dated 24/11/2004 22:07:39 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you don't have a UPS, I would strongly recommend getting one. They're getting to be quite inexpensive, and well worth the cost. What's a UPS in words? ATB L "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fear OT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 24/11/2004 22:07:39 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you don't have a UPS, I would strongly recommend getting one. They're getting to be quite inexpensive, and well worth the cost. What's a UPS in words? Uninterruptible Power Supply -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] File Overwrite Bug Bites Again! (FinMac2005a)
Hi Jari, While the only two people who have reported the bug to Coda so far are both Mac users, I have no reason to believe it's a Mac-specific bug. In fact, I recall several Windows users on the list saying that they thought they had had similar problems, although I guess they haven't reported it to Coda yet. The trick with this bug is that if you're not aware of it beforehand, when it hits you are likely to chalk it up to user error, thinking, Damn, I must have made a mistake naming my files, and accidentally overwritten the score. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 24 Nov 2004, at 04:34 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: But as far as I know, this problem has only occurred after Extracting Parts with open extracted parts turned on. Then this is perhaps not Mac-specific after all! I remember getting this exact problem some Finale versions ago (I think it was in the version when this was introduced - Fin2003?) and have stayed away from the Open Extracted Part option ever since (by instinct). I do a multiple-open from the file open dialog instead, which have always worked. If I get any time available (a shortage right now), I'll see if I can reproduce it on Windows. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fear OT
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:21:02 -0500, dhbailey wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's a UPS in words? Uninterruptible Power Supply A bit more explanation is that it's sort of a surge protector with a high-capacity battery inside. If the power is interrupted for any reason, the battery takes over so you can finish and save your work before power is completely gone. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] File Overwrite Bug Bites Again! (FinMac2005a)
Hi Christopher, I've had this happen too. It seemed to only happen though when files were open in Finale and another file name was changed in the Finder (meaning by highlighting the name next to the file and re-typing it from within the finder window.) For instance, I've got Horn 1, Horn 2 and a Perc part open. I then go to the folder where I have my files, using the Finder to navigate to the file, and I change the name of the score, or bass part or whatever by highlighting it in the Finder window (these files aren't open of course at the time I change the name.) Even if the score, perc and bass parts are closed, the ol' switcharoo would happen in the open parts. The Perc part may be the Horn part now or whatever. I would have to close all the open files, choosing Don't Save and then go to my backup folder to retrieve the correct parts. This problem is further compounded if you are working on a server with more than one person and any one person changes a file name using the method described above. Other people with files open will see that their files have been switched. This stopped happening once I strictly started using Save As to change file names, or by making sure all open files were closed before I changed the file names from within the Finder window (this includes asking your co-workers if their files are closed if you are working off of a server.) I'm on a Mac but I suppose the same thing could happen on a Windows machine...it's been so long since I have had a windows machine (Windows '97) I think you can now change filenames using the Finder on a windows machine too??? Karen Hi all, I have now been officially bitten by the File Overwrite bug for the third time. The first time (that I know of) was in FinMac2002, then last year in 2003 (both in System 9.2 for Mac) and now in Fin 2005a running under OSX 10.3.6. Here's what I did, exactly. I had opened an older score (apparently this is of some importance), created in 2002 and then edited in 2003, and began to edit some more. I added staves, moved music around, changed notes, dragged various things, changed the title (apparently this is of some importance too), saved it under a new name and then extracted parts using Extract Parts from the File menu. I left the box checked open extracted parts and removed a few words from the file name for the extracted parts, from Miles Ahead rev 2 score.mus to Miles Ah 2 and then left the placeholders for staff name and number intact, so that the first part extracted as Miles Ah 2 - 001 Flute.mus, for example. I then began checking, formatting and printing parts. My usual routine involves editing the page 2 text blocks to include the instrument name. I noticed that one part (Vibraphone) had some errors, so I changed it (including staff transposition), printed it, saved it but did not close the window, then went to look for the score window (still open) to make the changes there, too. I completed the changes, re-saved the score, then hit the yellow Minimize button to get it out of my way while I finished the rest of the parts. I closed the Vibraphone window using Command-W, which closed without prompting me (is this unusual? I usually get prompted all the time for unnecessary saves.) The next part up was Bass, and I decided I would use the old bass part, already extracted from the 2003 version in another folder. I went to Finder, found the old bass part, dragged it to desktop without opening it, then went back to Finale. I saw the new bass part still there, so I hit command-W to close the window. At that moment, the HIDDEN window (the score) geni-ed back out of the Dock where it had been minimised, and I got a prompt Save changes before closing? Well, that was so weird it got my attention immediately. I noticed that name of the score was the same, but what I was looking at in the window was the VIBRAPHONE part! Somehow the content of the vibes part had been transferred to the Score file while it was minimised. (it occurred to me that I was actually looking at the real vibes part which I had mistakenly minimised, but no, the Dock was empty of other minimised windows. This was the file called Miles Ahead rev 2 score.mus and my file called Miles Ah 2 - 013 Vibraphone.mus was safely on my hard drive with an appropriate Date Modified. Needless to say, I did NOT save, but called tech support immediately. After a long conversation, I saved under a new name to send the file to them. I went back to work, but closing the Bass window continued to call up the minimised score document, this time without any changes. I checked the text blocks in all the remaining open files, but none had gone wonky on me. The bug did not recur. Brian in tech support says that for now, don't open any more than one window at a time. The only instances he has of this bug are Darcy's and mine, so if this has ever happened to you, please call it in. Christopher
Re: [Finale] File Overwrite Bug Bites Again! (FinMac2005a)
Hi Christopher, I've had this happen too. It seemed to only happen though when files were open in Finale and another file name was changed in the Finder (meaning by highlighting the name next to the file and re-typing it from within the finder window.) For instance, I've got Horn 1, Horn 2 and a Perc part open. I then go to the folder where I have my files, using the Finder to navigate to the file, and I change the name of the score, or bass part or whatever by highlighting it in the Finder window (these files aren't open of course at the time I change the name.) Even if the score, perc and bass parts are closed, the ol' switcharoo would happen in the open parts. Oops...I made a mistake here...this sentence should read Even if the score and bass parts are closed The Perc part may be the Horn part now or whatever. I would have to close all the open files, choosing Don't Save and then go to my backup folder to retrieve the correct parts. This problem is further compounded if you are working on a server with more than one person and any one person changes a file name using the method described above. Other people with files open will see that their files have been switched. This stopped happening once I strictly started using Save As to change file names, or by making sure all open files were closed before I changed the file names from within the Finder window (this includes asking your co-workers if their files are closed if you are working off of a server.) I'm on a Mac but I suppose the same thing could happen on a Windows machine...it's been so long since I have had a windows machine (Windows '97) I think you can now change filenames using the Finder on a windows machine too??? Karen Hi all, I have now been officially bitten by the File Overwrite bug for the third time. The first time (that I know of) was in FinMac2002, then last year in 2003 (both in System 9.2 for Mac) and now in Fin 2005a running under OSX 10.3.6. Here's what I did, exactly. I had opened an older score (apparently this is of some importance), created in 2002 and then edited in 2003, and began to edit some more. I added staves, moved music around, changed notes, dragged various things, changed the title (apparently this is of some importance too), saved it under a new name and then extracted parts using Extract Parts from the File menu. I left the box checked open extracted parts and removed a few words from the file name for the extracted parts, from Miles Ahead rev 2 score.mus to Miles Ah 2 and then left the placeholders for staff name and number intact, so that the first part extracted as Miles Ah 2 - 001 Flute.mus, for example. I then began checking, formatting and printing parts. My usual routine involves editing the page 2 text blocks to include the instrument name. I noticed that one part (Vibraphone) had some errors, so I changed it (including staff transposition), printed it, saved it but did not close the window, then went to look for the score window (still open) to make the changes there, too. I completed the changes, re-saved the score, then hit the yellow Minimize button to get it out of my way while I finished the rest of the parts. I closed the Vibraphone window using Command-W, which closed without prompting me (is this unusual? I usually get prompted all the time for unnecessary saves.) The next part up was Bass, and I decided I would use the old bass part, already extracted from the 2003 version in another folder. I went to Finder, found the old bass part, dragged it to desktop without opening it, then went back to Finale. I saw the new bass part still there, so I hit command-W to close the window. At that moment, the HIDDEN window (the score) geni-ed back out of the Dock where it had been minimised, and I got a prompt Save changes before closing? Well, that was so weird it got my attention immediately. I noticed that name of the score was the same, but what I was looking at in the window was the VIBRAPHONE part! Somehow the content of the vibes part had been transferred to the Score file while it was minimised. (it occurred to me that I was actually looking at the real vibes part which I had mistakenly minimised, but no, the Dock was empty of other minimised windows. This was the file called Miles Ahead rev 2 score.mus and my file called Miles Ah 2 - 013 Vibraphone.mus was safely on my hard drive with an appropriate Date Modified. Needless to say, I did NOT save, but called tech support immediately. After a long conversation, I saved under a new name to send the file to them. I went back to work, but closing the Bass window continued to call up the minimised score document, this time without any changes. I checked the text blocks in all the remaining open files, but none had gone wonky on me. The bug did not recur. Brian in tech support says that for now, don't open any more than one window at a time. The only instances he has
Re: [Finale] File Overwrite Bug Bites Again! (FinMac2005a)
On Nov 24, 2004, at 4:34 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: But as far as I know, this problem has only occurred after Extracting Parts with open extracted parts turned on. Then this is perhaps not Mac-specific after all! I remember getting this exact problem some Finale versions ago (I think it was in the version when this was introduced - Fin2003?) and have stayed away from the Open Extracted Part option ever since (by instinct). I do a multiple-open from the file open dialog instead, which have always worked. If I get any time available (a shortage right now), I'll see if I can reproduce it on Windows. Hmm, this would mean that if we opened all the parts MANUALLY, then the bug might not bite? This is very interesting. Darcy, we might have our bacon saved after all. DON'T automatically open the parts, but open them all manually at once after extraction, and we would be safe. Hmm. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] File Overwrite Bug Bites Again! (FinMac2005a)
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:10:32 -0500, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, this would mean that if we opened all the parts MANUALLY, then the bug might not bite? This is very interesting. Darcy, we might have our bacon saved after all. DON'T automatically open the parts, but open them all manually at once after extraction, and we would be safe. Hmm. The File Overwrite bug has never bitten me, but I never have the program automatically open parts upon extraction. If I ever have two files open, they are parts only... I never have the score open at the same time as one of its parts. This working method may be partly responsible for my never being bitten by the bug... even when I've attempted to reproduce it using files Darcy has sent me. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] File Overwrite Bug Bites Again! (FinMac2005a)
On Nov 24, 2004, at 6:11 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:10:32 -0500, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, this would mean that if we opened all the parts MANUALLY, then the bug might not bite? This is very interesting. Darcy, we might have our bacon saved after all. DON'T automatically open the parts, but open them all manually at once after extraction, and we would be safe. Hmm. The File Overwrite bug has never bitten me, but I never have the program automatically open parts upon extraction. If I ever have two files open, they are parts only... I never have the score open at the same time as one of its parts. This working method may be partly responsible for my never being bitten by the bug... even when I've attempted to reproduce it using files Darcy has sent me. I've never experienced this bug, and I routinely do automatically open parts on extraction, which means that the score is open at the same time. I also routinely change transposition and the instrument name in an extracted part, and save it as the new instrument. When I open the original part, it's always fine. This is in FinMac 2005a. Lon Price, Los Angeles [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/txstnr/ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
