Re: [Finale] Same expression, different playback [was: Finale's internal..]
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:52:32 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:44:18 +, Ken Moore wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a bar for entering text in the Expression creation dialog, labeled Description: -- that is where you would enter Strings-piano or Guitar-piano The other useful feature in F2004 (is it in F2003?) is making non-printing a style, applicable to individual characters, so you can differentiate the two versions on the display also, but make them identical on print-out. This (along with the lack of justification) shows that they've implemented this feature in a really half-assed way. Comments should be a separate field in the expression definition, not a non-printing part of the expression itself. David, If you had read the whole thread (I've just left in a couple of messages to remind you of what you missed), you'd already have known that this was the case. There *is* a separate Description field in the expression definition (as descibed by David Bailey) whose contents are viewable from the Expression Selection window but not once the expression is actually placed. Ken Moore suggested an alternate means of differentiating between two similar versions of an expression, but that was presented entirely as an alternate (The other ... feature). I pointed out the flaws in that alternate method, but it is certainly not the only (or even the best) way to do it. Perhaps it was easy for them to implement it this way, but it sounds like it wouldn't have much value. Or, at least, cause almost as many problems as it solves. This is the kind of bullet-point feature that might tempt me to upgrade, but once I've heard the reality of it, I recognize that it's not at all what it pretends to be -- I can definitely get on just fine without it. My response to this will be in your very own words (posted here on Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:07:53 -0500): Would you *please* refrain from posting about subjects on which you are clearly ignorant? -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] EPS (was : Gregorian)
I guess that no Mac users would dare laughing at you, because it still is only half usable. Technically we have eps export and it works, but at the moment it can not be usable in a workflow, because of the damn font warning that shows up at every single eps created. Who would want to stay in front of the computer waiting and pressing enter 120 times (for a 120 pages document) while exporting eps? You will say that at least we have them work, but I believe the people at MM really don't care. We know how powerful et versatile Finale is, but what is it worth if it can't translate into high-end publishing capabilities. I wrote several times to MM about this ussue. Why aren't they once hiring an eps expert that will optimize their code to make it work (mac and pc)? I mean it's not an OS X problem, Adobe products fully support eps. Sibelius too. Aren't they sending people to Apple developper conference to get the knowledge. Are they at all in contact with the people at Apple? I've always bought every upgrade for Finale, and was patienly waiting for the eps font warning to be removed to buy it, but it seems that it won't happen. My employer has it and we made some tests. It kills me to see all that I am missing as new features and time saving capabilities, but eps creation is so important and is something I do many times every day, that it still isn't worth upgrading. And what about the magnificient font embedding capabilities that don't embed fonts for as long as I can remember. I'll stop here. Joyeuses Pâques cher Dennis, Éric Dussault Le 05-03-27, à 03:10, d. collins a écrit : Mac users are probably all laughing at us right now for putting up with this. When EPS didn't work for them, they got it fixed in a matter of months, if I recall correctly. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Preparing Orchestral Score and Parts
Ryan Beard wrote: snip As for the parts, unless you're given specific instructions from the orchestra librarian, I think it's perfectly fine to print on 11x17 booklets. Even better would be 12x18 (standard in the publishing world) if your printer can handle it. As long as the music is extremely legible and free from mistakes, the musicians won't complain about the size of paper (well, they shouldn't). snip Ryan: This reply concerns paper. You reference to 12 x 18 paper caught my eye, what brand of paper do you use? And what size do you buy it in? I've found determing paper brand, what sizes the manufacture offers it in, which way the grain is running for a particular size and what you can cut it down to (keeping in mind the grain) while minimizing waste is very complex investigation and merits discussion, especially for someone about to undertake it for the first time. Regards, John Poole Editions Poole http://www.editionspoole.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Preparing Orchestral Score and Parts
John, (snip) Your reference to 12 x 18 paper caught my eye, what brand of paper do you use? And what size do you buy it in? My printer can handle up to 11x17. It's a Ricoh Laser AP2610N with the duplexer. I wish I could do 12x18! As for the brand and type, I use BOISE Vellum Offset 60 lb. I have it in both 11x17 and 8.5x11. Depending on how the final product will be bound determines the size of page I use. I like to use the Beige color, but I have clients who prefer white. As a performer, I find that bright stage lights reflecting off of the white paper hurts my eyes. And, if beige is good enough for those old Breitkopf Härtel editions, it's good enough for me. The big drawback to this brand is that it is not acid free. I haven't taken the time to look for an acid free paper of similar quality. I buy my paper at the local Kelly Paper shop. http://www.kellypaper.com/ If there's not one near you, I think you can purchase online. They'll also cut custom page sizes, but I haven't used that service yet. I only make cuts in the paper when I make my 11x14 conducting scores. My paper cutter (Premier brand from GBC, I think) is 24''x24'', and can cleanly cut about 4 pages at a time. There are more expensive cutters that will eat through a hundred pages at once, but I don't work in large enough volumes to warrant purchasing one of those. I use the clear and black vinyl covers from GBC to make the scores a little more sturdy. Vinyl covers in the larger sizes are hard to find, but I was lucky to find a local bindery willing to sell to me in bulk. Apparently you can't purchase directly from GBC's websitethey never responded to my email inquiry! I have a GBC brand comb binder, as well. I bind the full scores with that and some of the larger piano things that can't be stapled due to the size. Hope that answers som eof your questions, John. Good luck on this next big project! Ryan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Time Signature bug
After months of protest at the EPS failure I was forced to move up to Finale2005. The first thing I tried to do revealed a bug. Can anyone confirm this one? Start a new document, single staff, with 4/4 time signature. In Staff Attributes check 'Independent Key Signature'. With the Time Signature Tool try to change the time signature to 3/4. Nothing happens - it won't change. Go back and uncheck 'Independent Key Signature'. Now changing time signature works. Why would anyone want to do this, you ask? When SmartScore starts a file it has that attrribute checked and assumes 4/4. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Signature bug
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Richard Yates wrote: After months of protest at the EPS failure I was forced to move up to Finale2005. The first thing I tried to do revealed a bug. Can anyone confirm this one? I followed your steps to recreate the bug. I tried it with the default document and a document without libraries. It happily changed to 3/4, 5/4, 3/8, etc. Thus, I was unable to recreated the bug. I'm using Windows Finale 2005b. James Gilbert http://www.jamesgilbertmusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Signature bug
No problem here in FinMac 2005 (I have other problems, but let's leave that one alone for now) John Roberts On 3/27/05 8:38 PM, Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After months of protest at the EPS failure I was forced to move up to Finale2005. The first thing I tried to do revealed a bug. Can anyone confirm this one? Start a new document, single staff, with 4/4 time signature. In Staff Attributes check 'Independent Key Signature'. With the Time Signature Tool try to change the time signature to 3/4. Nothing happens - it won't change. Go back and uncheck 'Independent Key Signature'. Now changing time signature works. Why would anyone want to do this, you ask? When SmartScore starts a file it has that attrribute checked and assumes 4/4. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale