Re: [Finale] Merging Notes

2006-05-07 Thread Christopher Smith


On May 6, 2006, at 9:52 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote:



On May 6, 2006, at 9:27 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:


Have you perhaps checked the Manual under MERGING MUSIC?


Okay - now I did a search on merging music and nothing came up 
either!  I did find merging music in the index, but when I click on 
it, it takes me to something called imploding music which doesn't 
sound like what I'm doing (everything I have is on a single staff 
already) - and I can't find anything about actually merging when 
pasting  If you could point me to the right page of the manual 
I'll be happy to look it up!  BTW, I'm using Fin-Mac 2005b...




Implode is what you want. You will have to create a new dummy staff 
which will be deleted afterward directly under the target staff. Let's 
call the earlier passage A and the later passage B. Copy A to the dummy 
staff so that it is aligned with B. Select B and the A directly 
underneath it with Mass Edit. Hit 1 (or select Implode from the menu). 
Delete the dummy staff. Done.


Now, if the two passages have different rhythms and you need to 
preserve them in different layers, you proceed a little differently. 
You wouldn't even have to create a dummy staff, but change the lower 
passage (lets say A) to Layer 2. Select Show active layer only from 
the menu. Drag A and drop over where B is. Turn off Show Active Layer. 
Done.


Christopher

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Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-07 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 06.05.2006 dhbailey wrote:

Now maybe you could explain the logic of such a setting being the Clef Tool, 
when the same setting is NOT in the Time Signature tool or the Key Signature 
tool?  Why have two such settings in the Measure Tool but leave the third such 
setting in the clef tool?


Yes, there is a reason: Those settings in the measure attributes work on 
every staff for that particular measure. The clef setting works on every 
staff seperately, and it needs to, too. So this is actually the only way 
to do it. Also, the clef tool allows to define the size of the clef 
individually, which is neither possible nor necessary for time and key sigs.


However, as we already found out, this doesn't solve the problem of 
having all three shown, as though it was the beginning of the system, as 
it may be needed for excercises etc.


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Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-07 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 07.05.2006 keith helgesen wrote:
Highlight (or check-box staff) required staves- select; playback. Listen! 



This is possible in a very similar way in 2k6 with the new Studio View.

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Re: [Finale] Beam issue: Patterson's plug in : what is the correct setting?

2006-05-07 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 06.05.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

Could someone offer me suggestions on the settings and keystroke for 
Pattersons' plug-in?
The choices and potential keystrokes seem daunting to me.


Robert' site gives you several different settings for different 
preferences. Personally I prefer Henle style beams, but many 
publishers use the Ted Ross style.


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Re: [Finale] Keychange within a repeat

2006-05-07 Thread Gerald Berg
Depending where you are in the formatting process -- once you set the 
score just create staff expressions and place them y'rself.  I find the 
measure mapping  more trouble (remembering that it exists-mostly) than 
it's worth.


Jerry
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On 6-May-06, at 9:08 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:


Wolf Wrobel wrote:


Hi there!

I am trying to get warning accidentals in the first ending of my 
repeat. The repeat is in D and the measure one is supposed to jump 
to, is in F. The second ending (so the one right after the first 
ending) is also in D.
How do I do that. The manual is not very helpful there. Dummy 
measure? But then the accidentals appear right of the repeat bar and 
not left of it.


Yes.  I think the simplest way is to add a dummy measure.  But I'd put 
the repeat sign at the end of the dummy measure, and the only thing in 
it would be the change of key, and repeat.  You can hide the barline 
just ahead of the dummy measure by defining it as invisible.


ns

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[Finale] Figured bass numbers and dynamic marks ...

2006-05-07 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
I usually add dynamic marks last to a document. Well I discovered that the dynamic marks collided with the bass figures.
At first I tried to manually adjust the dynamics, but I didn't like how irregular the placement was. 
So then, I opted to lower the figured bass numbers a few notches, to allow normal placement 
of the dynamic marks. Which gives things a more consistent look, except now, the figures are a wee bit low. 

Thanks to a suggestion of the list, I changed the dynamics to *note* position, which was a big help.
Just was wondering if this looks ok. Here's a screenshot:http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/dynamics-figured.jpg


Thank you 
Kim Patrick Clow

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[Finale] 'Del Signo' repeat in Finale

2006-05-07 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
I have a dance style movement that has
AABBCC structure then it's supposed to repeat the AA section.
Even though the score doesn't have a 'Del Signo' mark, that's obviously what's meant.

Whats the keystroke for getting Finale to notate this?


Thanks 
Kim Patrick Clow
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Re: [Finale] 'Del Signo' repeat in Finale

2006-05-07 Thread Noel Stoutenburg

Kim Patrick Clow wrote:


I have a dance style movement that has
AABBCC structure then it's supposed to repeat the AA section.
Even though the score doesn't have a 'Del Signo' mark, that's 
obviously what's meant.
 
Whats the keystroke for getting Finale to notate this?


In both Maestro and Engraver, it's Shift-5.

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Re: [Finale] 'Del Signo' repeat in Finale

2006-05-07 Thread dhbailey

Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

I have a dance style movement that has
AABBCC structure then it's supposed to repeat the AA section.
Even though the score doesn't have a 'Del Signo' mark, that's obviously 
what's meant.
 
Whats the keystroke for getting Finale to notate this?
 


You really need to read the manual -- it's under Repeats, and it's part 
of the Repeat tool.


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Re: [Finale] 'Del Signo' repeat in Finale

2006-05-07 Thread Aaron Sherber

At 12:31 PM 5/7/2006, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
I have a dance style movement that has
AABBCC structure then it's supposed to repeat the AA section.
Even though the score doesn't have a 'Del Signo' mark, that's
obviously what's meant.

I think you mean 'da capo' (from the beginning), not 'dal segno'.

Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] 'Del Signo' repeat in Finale

2006-05-07 Thread John Howell

At 12:31 PM -0400 5/7/06, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

I have a dance style movement that has
AABBCC structure then it's supposed to repeat the AA section.
Even though the score doesn't have a 'Del Signo' mark, that's 
obviously what's meant.


I think the term you're looking for is Dal Segno, but in any case a 
repeat to the beginning would not be indicated by D.S. but by D.C., 
Da Capo.


John


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Re: [Finale] Merging Notes

2006-05-07 Thread Jacki Barineau


On May 7, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:

Implode is what you want. You will have to create a new dummy staff  
which will be deleted afterward directly under the target staff.  
Let's call the earlier passage A and the later passage B. Copy A to  
the dummy staff so that it is aligned with B. Select B and the A  
directly underneath it with Mass Edit. Hit 1 (or select Implode  
from the menu). Delete the dummy staff. Done.


Thanks so much, Christopher for the explanation - it's weird that  
they call  merging imploding!!  I would like to see a simple  
Merge option under the Edit menu so you can copy and paste  
without going through all that other stuff!  Anyway - the 2 rhythms  
are identical, so it sounds like this option will work fine for me.


Thanks again - I really appreciate it!

Jacki

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Re: [Finale] Merging Notes

2006-05-07 Thread Christopher Smith


On May 7, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote:



On May 7, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:

Implode is what you want. You will have to create a new dummy staff 
which will be deleted afterward directly under the target staff. 
Let's call the earlier passage A and the later passage B. Copy A to 
the dummy staff so that it is aligned with B. Select B and the A 
directly underneath it with Mass Edit. Hit 1 (or select Implode from 
the menu). Delete the dummy staff. Done.


Thanks so much, Christopher for the explanation - it's weird that they 
call  merging imploding!!  I would like to see a simple Merge 
option under the Edit menu so you can copy and paste without going 
through all that other stuff!  Anyway - the 2 rhythms are identical, 
so it sounds like this option will work fine for me.




It makes sense when you notice that there is an explode function for 
splitting chords into separate parts - the opposite would be Implode. 
TG Tools has a fantastically smart exploder - includes unisons, 
octaves, asks what note you want doubled when there aren't enough, 
strips out I., II. Solo and the like. Too bad his tools don't 
have an equivalently intelligent Implode as well.


Finale DOES have a merge - it's under the Note Mover Tool, but you 
can only do it up to a measure at at time. For more than that, you want 
Implode.


Christopher

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