Re: [Finale] chord symbols and spacing
Thanks to all! I decided do take: Bb2sus Raimund Lintzen Christopher Smith schrieb: Hmm, that's not exactly the same chord. Bb9sus4 (or Bb9/4) would be played with an Ab. Christopher On Jun 26, 2007, at 3:20 PM, George Galway wrote: Bb9/4 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raimund Lintzen Sent: 26 June 2007 19:40 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] chord symbols and spacing Dear listers, how can I shorten this chord symbol: Bbadd9sus4 The spacing of this one takes too much room. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] chord symbols and spacing
Raimund Lintzen / 2007/06/29 / 07:12 AM wrote: I decided do take: Bb2sus I won't do it. Any thing that makes player stop to think should be avoided. I strongly recommend: Bbsus(add 2) This sets Bb-C-Eb-F, and no one gets confused. Bb2 means C is the highest note, and should not allow Eb above. If you really want to omit F, so the chord is Bb-C-Eb, it is C-(omit 5)/ Bb, and this chord will sound that way anyway. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Invisible rests solved
Please disregard my rests issue. I solved it. Sorry I wasn't patient enough to find the answer on my own. George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Invisible rests
Did a song in bass tab with win2006b. The rests are grey and don't show up on the print out. Any idea why and how I can fix it? Thanks for any help, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] chord symbols and spacing
On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:33 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Bb2 means C is the highest note, and should not allow Eb above. That's not really true. There is nothing in chord symbol nomenclature that says what the distribution of voices is aside from the bass note; that's why it is a chord symbol and not a written-out voicing. Did you mean to say that the chord symbol Bb2 does not include an Eb? That would true, but Bbadd9 doesn't include Eb either. To my understanding of it, Bb2 is not a standard symbol, as it is not clear whether or not there is a D, whereas Bbadd9 and Bbadd2 would be played identically. Sometimes I have used Bb2, particularly when the chord Bbadd9omit3 shows up too often to be concise, but I always define it first at the beginning of the chart so as to avoid confusion, with a note Bb2 = Bbadd9omit3 In Raymond's case I might use Bb42 (with the 4 stacked above the 2, like Bb69 would be stacked) if it showed up a lot in the piece but I would define it first. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way
dc wrote: Does anyone know if one has to pay any kind of taxes (besides the outrageous shipping price!), when ordering the 99$ upgrade from MM and having it shipped to Europe? I seem to recall that below a certain price (100$, 150$), there weren't any other taxes. I also recall that when I ordered a large upgrade a few years ago I got hit... Here in Germany we have to pay import duties and 19% VAT on all goods imported from outside the EU. If I remember correctly, all goods with a value (including shipping costs!) up to 22 EUR are duty-free. Computers, computer-related hardware and books are always duty-free. The most annoying additional charge is the VAT on price + shipping costs + customs (why do we have to pay VAT on shipping costs and customs?). So it's usually rather expensive to buy physical goods from the US. Martin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] chord symbols and spacing
Christopher Smith / 2007/06/29 / 09:29 AM wrote: That's not really true. There is nothing in chord symbol nomenclature that says what the distribution of voices is aside from the bass note; that's why it is a chord symbol and not a written-out voicing. Jazz theory is still young. I believe we are here to establish what is the best, the best as in less confusion without further explanation. I preach the numeric value attached to the letter determines the highest extension of the voicing :-) CMaj13 includes Major 7th and Major 9th, while CMaj6 or C6 does not. C-13 includes minor 7th and Major 9th (if context allows), while C-6 does not. C2 is C and D, while C9 includes the 3rd, the 5th, and the minor 7th. CMaj(add2) is C-D-E-G, no 6th/13th nor Major 7th. C2 is a chord that avoids Major/minor distinction, as well as Major/ dominant distinction. You still want to use chord symbol for this two note chord for improvisation. The improviser will have the freedom to choose between Major, minor, or dominant, if context allows. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Taxes
Does anyone know if one has to pay any kind of taxes (besides the outrageous shipping price!), when ordering the 99$ upgrade from MM and having it shipped to Europe? Dennis, I bought my copy of Finale 2007 in the USA. They shipped it to Ireland, I do not recall how much it was, but it was not much. No one asked me to pay any taxes or duties. Where in Europe are you? If this is a problem for you, you can let it ship to my address in Ireland and I will send it to you, no problem. Best, Will Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] chord symbols and spacing
On Jun 29, 2007, at 11:42 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Christopher Smith / 2007/06/29 / 09:29 AM wrote: That's not really true. There is nothing in chord symbol nomenclature that says what the distribution of voices is aside from the bass note; that's why it is a chord symbol and not a written-out voicing. Jazz theory is still young. I believe we are here to establish what is the best, the best as in less confusion without further explanation. We can't ignore eighty or more years of chord symbols, though. For my students, they have trouble understanding that all chord members are major or perfect by default, EXCEPT the 7th! Every semester I get questions, why is the 7th minor by default, and everything else major? I explain it, but it would certainly be less confusing if the 7th behaved the same as other chord members. I don't think less complex is necessarily a good thing. Sometimes we need complex concepts to explain complex music. I preach the numeric value attached to the letter determines the highest extension of the voicing :-) Ah. The highest NUMBERED extension, nothing to do with how it is voiced. But this only applies starting with the 7th, as an unadorned C is a triad. We don't call it C5! This is why I would assume that any symbol not specifically omitting the 3 or 5 would contain them. CMaj13 includes Major 7th and Major 9th, while CMaj6 or C6 does not. C-13 includes minor 7th and Major 9th (if context allows), while C-6 does not. C2 is C and D, while C9 includes the 3rd, the 5th, and the minor 7th. CMaj(add2) is C-D-E-G, no 6th/13th nor Major 7th. A chord symbol of C2 signifying just C and D is new to me. I would have certainly put a G in that chord, and it would have been unclear to me whether or not an E should appear, since it is a non-standard chord symbol. If you are looking for the least confusing chord symbol not needing further explanation, I think C2 does not fall into that category. I have used this symbol before, but with an explanatory note making it equivalent to Cadd9omit3 (the official, but very long, chord symbol). Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Invisible rests solved
And answer was?? Please! Cheers K in OZ Keith Helgesen. Ph: (02) 62910787. Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Ports Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 12:00 AM To: Finale Forum Subject: [Finale] Invisible rests solved Please disregard my rests issue. I solved it. Sorry I wasn't patient enough to find the answer on my own. George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
