[Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do
My main issue that Sibelius cannot do is a small thing, but something I really want. That is, to be able to have a system start with (for instance) the double bar that appears at the end of the previous system. It will not do that and, according to the Sibelius people, I shouldn't want it to. However, that is a normal practice of notation where I work (Los Angeles). It's not even on Sibelius' schedule to implement. All the best, KIM R On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:00 AM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: Just out of curiosity, what can't Sibelius do which are essential for your scores and productivity? -- David H. Bailey ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do
Hey Kim, I agree with you. Terry Cano (Studio City) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] sibelius beams
Can Sibelius automatically create beams ala Henle, or else, with the same or comparable flexibility as to Patterson Beams? Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] sibelius beams
Hi Johannes, When I originally started using Sibelius, I asked this question on the Sib list, and someone (can't remember who) gave me some beam settings that give Henle-like results. I'm afraid I no longer have that email, but probably if you ask on the Sib list someone will be able to help you. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@mac.com http://homepage.mac.com/djargon Brooklyn, NY On 25 Jun 2009, at 2:54 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Can Sibelius automatically create beams ala Henle, or else, with the same or comparable flexibility as to Patterson Beams? Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] sibelius beams
On 25.06.2009 Darcy James Argue wrote: When I originally started using Sibelius I didn't realize you did. Have you switched completely? Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do
Can Sibelius now have bar numbers centred, automatically underneath each bar of the lowest staff in the piece? Couldn't before. Matthew Kim Richmond wrote: My main issue that Sibelius cannot do is a small thing, but something I really want. That is, to be able to have a system start with (for instance) the double bar that appears at the end of the previous system. It will not do that and, according to the Sibelius people, I shouldn't want it to. However, that is a normal practice of notation where I work (Los Angeles). It's not even on Sibelius' schedule to implement. All the best, KIM R On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:00 AM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: Just out of curiosity, what can't Sibelius do which are essential for your scores and productivity? -- David H. Bailey ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] sibelius beams
I should add that while I haven't upgraded to Sibelius 6, Sibelius 5 is, overall, not as well-suited to my needs as Finale 2008 (still my preferred working version of Finale, though I'll probably switch to Finale 2010 once the 2010a patch is released). Gliss lines in particular are a total horrorshow in Sibelius 5. Much of the contemporary string music I work on would be completely impractical using Sibelius (though perhaps this has improved in Sib 6). Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 25 Jun 2009, at 5:40 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: No. I use Finale primarily, but I have a few copying clients who require Sibelius. Plus, I wanted to keep my options option, and the $99 cross-grade price was too good to resist. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@mac.com Brooklyn, NY On 25 Jun 2009, at 5:02 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 25.06.2009 Darcy James Argue wrote: When I originally started using Sibelius I didn't realize you did. Have you switched completely? Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] sibelius beams
No. I use Finale primarily, but I have a few copying clients who require Sibelius. Plus, I wanted to keep my options option, and the $99 cross-grade price was too good to resist. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@mac.com Brooklyn, NY On 25 Jun 2009, at 5:02 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 25.06.2009 Darcy James Argue wrote: When I originally started using Sibelius I didn't realize you did. Have you switched completely? Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do
Well, the Sibelius 6 demo showed me enough to make me think cross-upgrading (and keeping Finale going) was worth doing. So, after many years of using Finale exclusively, I've started using Sibelius. (And interestingly, even though it was a competitive upgrade, I was able to register my copy online using the 'register using someone else's computer.' I don't know if at some point in the future they'll ask for my Finale 3.7 manual pages or not). I've only had Sibelius 6 for a few days, but yes, you can center bar numbers underneath the lowest staff in a piece. The engraving rules seem fairly powerful and easy enough to make adjustments to fit one's own needs in most situations (with bar numbers, but also other situations). James Gilbert -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew Hindson (gmail) Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:50 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do Can Sibelius now have bar numbers centred, automatically underneath each bar of the lowest staff in the piece? Couldn't before. Matthew Kim Richmond wrote: My main issue that Sibelius cannot do is a small thing, but something I really want. That is, to be able to have a system start with (for instance) the double bar that appears at the end of the previous system. It will not do that and, according to the Sibelius people, I shouldn't want it to. However, that is a normal practice of notation where I work (Los Angeles). It's not even on Sibelius' schedule to implement. All the best, KIM R ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
I thought I'd update the list on my inability to open my 2009 documents in 2010. It is a known problem to MakeMusic that a 'handful' of people have encountered. The best information I've received is that it is a problem with templates. They've asked me how far back in versions was the original template made (not sure - maybe 2003, maybe 3.7) and if I had converted the template from old versions to new versions (yes, of course). The problem has been passed to the research people, then the quality assurance people, and now I'm told that it is back with research. They can't tell me at this point if a maintenance upgrade will have the problem fixed or not. In the meanwhile, I'm trying my hand with Sibelius 6 (after using Finale exclusively since version 3.7) and after only a few days with it, I'm not seeing any compelling reason not to stick with it, but it is early days. James Gilbert ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do
It's not even on Sibelius' schedule to implement. sibelius policy is to let you know this isn't needed by many users, we won't implement it. but with a smile, direct from the CEOs. finale policy is for some random techie to sometimes to deny the problem exists until they are proven wrong and then maybe let you know that it is documented and maybe some day they will decide to think about considering maybe getting around to fixing it. choose your poison. there are a lot of things each programme can't do. make sure that not only people on the finale list know about your sibelius woes but also the people involved in the development of sibelius. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] sibelius beams
Hi Dennis, Did you really never get it activated? I emailed Daniel Spreadbury and he was happy to set me up with an activation using only my Finale serial number. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 25 Jun 2009, at 5:50 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Thu, June 25, 2009 5:40 pm, Darcy James Argue wrote: No. I use Finale primarily, but I have a few copying clients who require Sibelius. Plus, I wanted to keep my options option, and the $99 cross-grade price was too good to resist. Yeah, wasted $99 for me. My Finale serial number wasn't good enough for Sibelius. They wanted me to deface the manual or send my original CD. Despite the fact I've been a visible Finale user for 15 years and even corresponded with them, not good enough. I had one Sibelius client (the reason I got the useless crossgrade) and weaned them off it. :) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do
Actually Sibelius could always place bar numbers under the bottom staff but, until version 5, it required a two step process the second step of which was a somewhat obscure adjustment that was easily missed. This was all changed in Sibelius 5. Bar number adjustments are now very easy and very flexible. Richard Smith www.rgsmithmusic.com Can Sibelius now have bar numbers centred, automatically underneath each bar of the lowest staff in the piece? Couldn't before. Matthew Kim Richmond wrote: My main issue that Sibelius cannot do is a small thing, but something I really want. That is, to be able to have a system start with (for instance) the double bar that appears at the end of the previous system. It will not do that and, according to the Sibelius people, I shouldn't want it to. However, that is a normal practice of notation where I work (Los Angeles). It's not even on Sibelius' schedule to implement. All the best, KIM R On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:00 AM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: Just out of curiosity, what can't Sibelius do which are essential for your scores and productivity? -- David H. Bailey ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
