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Re: [Finale] chord question

2016-07-30 Thread Steve Parker

From a piano player:
G2#11/B
Very clear and aurally (without context..) coherent. 

Steve P. 

> On 30 Jul 2016, at 21:54, Lon Price  wrote:
> 
> The intent here is to raise the 5th a half step.  If you were a piano player 
> reading a chord chart, would you rather see B-9#5, or G(add2)(#11)/B?  They 
> both spell the exact same notes, but the first example is far easier to 
> recognize.  Or how about this - Dmaj7(sus4)/B.
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2016, at 9:58 AM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
>> 
>> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
>> #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; 
>> background-color:white !important; }  LOL Close enuff for jazz I guess! 
>> From an improv vamping POV it proves convenient, and that may well be all 
>> that is required. But I can't see calling the 6th degree of a minor scale - 
>> Bb here - a #5 in any theory book.
>> Playing the chords in context it sounds like what it is: a minor 6th. 
>> Alone it sounds like Bb/D b5.
>> Thanks for the example! Well found.
>> GJB
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> On Saturday, July 30, 2016, 12:20 PM, Lon Price  wrote:
>> 
>> Check out the Real Book, Vol. 1 (Hal Leonard Edition), page 102 - Dear Old 
>> Stockholm.  The second chord is D-9#5, so that’s at least one example of the 
>> chord being used in a publication.
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2016, at 8:52 AM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Problem there is a #5 needs a major third (D# in this case) to sound 
>>> augmented otherwise it just sounds like a perfect 4th. GJB
>>> 
>>>  From: Lon Price 
>>> To: finale@shsu.edu 
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 11:26 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Finale] chord question
>>> 
>>> B-9#5
>>> 
 On Jul 29, 2016, at 4:39 PM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
 
 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
 #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; 
 background-color:white !important; }  I think to call something a flat 6th 
 you need a fifth. You have a G/D thing happening.
 
 GJB
 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
 
 
 On Friday, July 29, 2016, 7:12 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
 
 It sounds like a G Major chord with added 9th and #11 - no 7th
 
 Harold
 
 
 
> On 29/07/2016, at 19:56, martin nickless wrote:
> 
> hi regarding B-9 [b6]
> 
> the notes are from bottom up
> 
> B A D G Db
> 
> thanks
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Re: [Finale] chord question

2016-07-30 Thread Lon Price

The intent here is to raise the 5th a half step.  If you were a piano player 
reading a chord chart, would you rather see B-9#5, or G(add2)(#11)/B?  They 
both spell the exact same notes, but the first example is far easier to 
recognize.  Or how about this - Dmaj7(sus4)/B.

> On Jul 30, 2016, at 9:58 AM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
> 
> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
> #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
> !important; }  LOL Close enuff for jazz I guess! 
> From an improv vamping POV it proves convenient, and that may well be all 
> that is required. But I can't see calling the 6th degree of a minor scale - 
> Bb here - a #5 in any theory book.
> Playing the chords in context it sounds like what it is: a minor 6th. 
> Alone it sounds like Bb/D b5.
> Thanks for the example! Well found.
> GJB
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
> 
> 
> On Saturday, July 30, 2016, 12:20 PM, Lon Price  wrote:
> 
> Check out the Real Book, Vol. 1 (Hal Leonard Edition), page 102 - Dear Old 
> Stockholm.  The second chord is D-9#5, so that’s at least one example of the 
> chord being used in a publication.
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2016, at 8:52 AM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
>> 
>> Problem there is a #5 needs a major third (D# in this case) to sound 
>> augmented otherwise it just sounds like a perfect 4th. GJB
>> 
>>   From: Lon Price 
>> To: finale@shsu.edu 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 11:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] chord question
>> 
>> B-9#5
>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 4:39 PM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
>>> 
>>> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
>>> #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; 
>>> background-color:white !important; }  I think to call something a flat 6th 
>>> you need a fifth. You have a G/D thing happening.
>>> 
>>> GJB
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Friday, July 29, 2016, 7:12 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It sounds like a G Major chord with added 9th and #11 - no 7th
>>> 
>>> Harold
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 29/07/2016, at 19:56, martin nickless wrote:
>>> 
 hi regarding B-9 [b6]
 
 the notes are from bottom up
 
 B A D G Db
 
 thanks
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Re: [Finale] chord question

2016-07-30 Thread GERALD BERG

 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; }  LOL Close enuff for jazz I guess! 
From an improv vamping POV it proves convenient, and that may well be all that 
is required. But I can't see calling the 6th degree of a minor scale - Bb here 
- a #5 in any theory book.
Playing the chords in context it sounds like what it is: a minor 6th. 
Alone it sounds like Bb/D b5.
Thanks for the example! Well found.
GJB


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On Saturday, July 30, 2016, 12:20 PM, Lon Price  wrote:

Check out the Real Book, Vol. 1 (Hal Leonard Edition), page 102 - Dear Old 
Stockholm.  The second chord is D-9#5, so that’s at least one example of the 
chord being used in a publication.

> On Jul 30, 2016, at 8:52 AM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
> 
> Problem there is a #5 needs a major third (D# in this case) to sound 
> augmented otherwise it just sounds like a perfect 4th. GJB
> 
>      From: Lon Price 
> To: finale@shsu.edu 
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Finale] chord question
> 
> B-9#5
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 4:39 PM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
>> 
>> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
>> #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; 
>> background-color:white !important; }  I think to call something a flat 6th 
>> you need a fifth. You have a G/D thing happening.
>> 
>> GJB
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, July 29, 2016, 7:12 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds like a G Major chord with added 9th and #11 - no 7th
>> 
>> Harold
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 29/07/2016, at 19:56, martin nickless wrote:
>> 
>>> hi regarding B-9 [b6]
>>> 
>>> the notes are from bottom up
>>> 
>>> B A D G Db
>>> 
>>> thanks
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Re: [Finale] chord question

2016-07-30 Thread Lon Price

Check out the Real Book, Vol. 1 (Hal Leonard Edition), page 102 - Dear Old 
Stockholm.  The second chord is D-9#5, so that’s at least one example of the 
chord being used in a publication.

> On Jul 30, 2016, at 8:52 AM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
> 
> Problem there is a #5 needs a major third (D# in this case) to sound 
> augmented otherwise it just sounds like a perfect 4th. GJB
> 
>  From: Lon Price 
> To: finale@shsu.edu 
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Finale] chord question
> 
> B-9#5
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 4:39 PM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
>> 
>> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
>> #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; 
>> background-color:white !important; }  I think to call something a flat 6th 
>> you need a fifth. You have a G/D thing happening.
>> 
>> GJB
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, July 29, 2016, 7:12 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds like a G Major chord with added 9th and #11 - no 7th
>> 
>> Harold
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 29/07/2016, at 19:56, martin nickless wrote:
>> 
>>> hi regarding B-9 [b6]
>>> 
>>> the notes are from bottom up
>>> 
>>> B A D G Db
>>> 
>>> thanks
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Re: [Finale] chord question

2016-07-30 Thread GERALD BERG

Problem there is a #5 needs a major third (D# in this case) to sound augmented 
otherwise it just sounds like a perfect 4th. GJB

  From: Lon Price 
 To: finale@shsu.edu 
 Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 11:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] chord question
   
B-9#5

> On Jul 29, 2016, at 4:39 PM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
> 
> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
> #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
> !important; }  I think to call something a flat 6th you need a fifth. You 
> have a G/D thing happening.
> 
> GJB
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
> 
> 
> On Friday, July 29, 2016, 7:12 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like a G Major chord with added 9th and #11 - no 7th
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
> 
> On 29/07/2016, at 19:56, martin nickless wrote:
> 
>> hi regarding B-9 [b6]
>> 
>> the notes are from bottom up
>> 
>> B A D G Db
>> 
>> thanks
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Re: [Finale] chord question

2016-07-30 Thread Lon Price

B-9#5

> On Jul 29, 2016, at 4:39 PM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
> 
> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
> #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
> !important; }  I think to call something a flat 6th you need a fifth. You 
> have a G/D thing happening.
> 
> GJB
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
> 
> 
> On Friday, July 29, 2016, 7:12 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like a G Major chord with added 9th and #11 - no 7th
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
> 
> On 29/07/2016, at 19:56, martin nickless wrote:
> 
>> hi regarding B-9 [b6]
>> 
>> the notes are from bottom up
>> 
>> B A D G Db
>> 
>> thanks
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