Re: [Finale] [OT] voice part only

[Ryszard Pusz]

Maybe if their bowtie is too tight it acts like a capo?? Then the transposed 
notes would match the sounds they make….


> On 6 May 2019, at 7:48 AM, SN jef chippewa  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> raymond, it is for voice (singular) and the part needs to be transposed down 
> a major second.  yeah i have cues for the entry and at the end of the longer 
> multi-measure rests.
> 
> cheers,
> jef
> 
>> I don¹t know what a transposed score for voices would be, unless they are 
>> talking about the Tenor part written an octave higher than sounding, but I 
>> will say that you do not need to Do a piano reduction for choir, really 
>> anytime in a larger ensemble. Just give them some cues To help them get 
>> their pitch, and you are good to go!
>> 
>> Raymond Horton
>> Composer/Arranger
>> Minister of Music,
>> Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
>> Retired Bass Trombonist,
>> Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
>> 
>>> On May 5, 2019, at 11:49 AM, SN jef chippewa 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> yeah they explicitly said they don't need the score, only a transposed part 
>>> (i don't know where the transposed score is or if there in fact is one), 
>>> and there is a fixed (small) budget that is just too small for me to do the 
>>> entire score even if i wanted to.
>>> 
>>> thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
 In my experience, the singer reads from score, with the proviso that the 
 vocal line is immediately above the piano line and that the other 
 instruments on are reduced-size staves above the vocal line. (See, for 
 example, the score of Pierrot Lunaire
 .)
 
>> >> The other option would be to provide a piano/vocal score with a piano 
>> >> reduction of all the instrumental parts. But that may be more trouble 
>> >> than you need for this particular project.
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Re: [Finale] [OT] voice part only

[Dalvin Boone]

Sorry to waste your time, but I have to ask:  why does a singer need a
transposed part?

Dlavin Boone

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Subject: Re: [Finale] [OT] voice part only


raymond, it is for voice (singular) and the part needs to be transposed down
a major second.  yeah i have cues for the entry and at the end of the longer
multi-measure rests.

cheers,
jef

>I don¹t know what a transposed score for voices would be, unless they 
>are talking about the Tenor part written an octave higher than 
>sounding, but I will say that you do not need to Do a piano reduction 
>for choir, really anytime in a larger ensemble. Just give them some 
>cues To help them get their pitch, and you are good to go!
>
>Raymond Horton
>Composer/Arranger
>Minister of Music,
>Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, 
>Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
>
>>  On May 5, 2019, at 11:49 AM, SN jef chippewa 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  yeah they explicitly said they don't need the score, only a 
>>transposed part (i don't know where the transposed score is or if 
>>there in fact is one), and there is a fixed (small) budget that is 
>>just too small for me to do the entire score even if i wanted to.
>>
>>  thanks!
>>
>>
>>>  In my experience, the singer reads from score, with the proviso 
>>>that the vocal line is immediately above the piano line and that the 
>>>other instruments on are reduced-size staves above the vocal line. 
>>>(See, for example, the score of Pierrot Lunaire
>>>  
>>>.
>>>)
>>>
>  >> The other option would be to provide a piano/vocal score with a 
>piano reduction of all the instrumental parts. But that may be more 
>trouble than you need for this particular project.

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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Fiskum, Steve]

I’ve had this problem before with my 5000 especially if you do a clean install. 
I fixed the issue using migration assistant. I can’t find the link I used for 
the description on how to do this but basically I connected to my other machine 
that still printed to the 5000 and just migrated the printer settings then 
everything worked perfectly. I had all the same issues you describe and it 
fixed it in a matter of minutes. 

Good luck. 
Steve Fiskum

> On May 5, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Johannes Gebauer  
> wrote:
> 
> On my wife's computer I get what I assume is the normal ping response with a 
> ms-value for each ping.
> 
> My Macbook like my wife's is connected via WIFI, mine doesn't even have an 
> ethernet connection.
> 
> Everything worked fine until I upgraded to Mojave.
> 
> The WIFI in the house consists of
> 
> A Fritzbox router connected to the DSL
> Another Fritzbox router used as a WIFI repeater, where the printer is 
> connected via ethernet.
> 
> My Macbook lives in the same room as that repeater fritzbox, so it usually 
> connects to that WIFI.
> 
> There is also a little Fritz WIFI repeater, which is what my wife's computer 
> is connected through.
> 
> Just to make sure that this doesn't play a role, I took my computer into that 
> room, it connected to the WIFI through the little repeater (the Fritzbox can 
> show the Mesh-setup in detail). No change, it could still not access the 
> printer. The WIFI access was now identical to my wife's Mac, at least in 
> terms of where the computer was connected in relation to the printer.
> 
> Ergo, I am pretty sure it has to do with the computer's setup, or Mojave 
> itself. There must be a setting I have overlooked, which prevents the 
> computer from talking properly to the printer.
> 
> Johannes
> 
>> Am 05.05.19 um 19:18 schrieb Robert Patterson:
>> So first things first. Check that ping actually produces different results
>> on your wife's machine. Then make doubly certain you have the right IP
>> address. After that you have to start investigating why your computer can't
>> see the printer. Do you have any separate routers or wifi access points
>> other than your main router?
>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:16 PM Johannes Gebauer
>> wrote:
>>> So here is the real result:
>>> 
>>> [Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer% ping 192.168.178.29
>>> PING 192.168.178.29 (192.168.178.29): 56 data bytes
>>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
>>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
>>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
>>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
>>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
>>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
>>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
>>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
>>> ^Z
>>> Suspended
>>> [Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer%
>>> 
>>> Expected?
>>> 
 Am 05.05.19 um 18:31 schrieb Robert Patterson:
 Suppose your printer's IP address is 192.168.1.5. Open your terminal and
 type in
 
 ping 192.168.1.5
 
 If your computer can see the address it should start responding
 continuously until you hit ctrl-Z. If it doesn't, then for some reason
>>> your
 computer doesn't see the printer.
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Re: [Finale] [OT] voice part only

[SN jef chippewa]

raymond, it is for voice (singular) and the part 
needs to be transposed down a major second.  yeah 
i have cues for the entry and at the end of the 
longer multi-measure rests.


cheers,
jef

I don¹t know what a transposed score for voices 
would be, unless they are talking about the 
Tenor part written an octave higher than 
sounding, but I will say that you do not need to 
Do a piano reduction for choir, really anytime 
in a larger ensemble. Just give them some cues 
To help them get their pitch, and you are good 
to go!


Raymond Horton
Composer/Arranger
Minister of Music,
Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016

 On May 5, 2019, at 11:49 AM, SN jef chippewa 
 wrote:



 yeah they explicitly said they don't need the 
score, only a transposed part (i don't know 
where the transposed score is or if there in 
fact is one), and there is a fixed (small) 
budget that is just too small for me to do the 
entire score even if i wanted to.


 thanks!


 In my experience, the singer reads from 
score, with the proviso that the vocal line is 
immediately above the piano line and that the 
other instruments on are reduced-size staves 
above the vocal line. (See, for example, the 
score of Pierrot Lunaire

 .)

 >> The other option would be to provide a 
piano/vocal score with a piano reduction of all 
the instrumental parts. But that may be more 
trouble than you need for this particular 
project.


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Re: [Finale] [OT] voice part only

[Raymond Horton]

I don’t know what a transposed score for voices would be, unless they are 
talking about the Tenor part written an octave higher than sounding, but I will 
say that you do not need to Do a piano reduction for choir, really anytime in a 
larger ensemble. Just give them some cues To help them get their pitch, and you 
are good to go!

Raymond Horton
Composer/Arranger 
Minister of Music, 
Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016

> On May 5, 2019, at 11:49 AM, SN jef chippewa  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> yeah they explicitly said they don't need the score, only a transposed part 
> (i don't know where the transposed score is or if there in fact is one), and 
> there is a fixed (small) budget that is just too small for me to do the 
> entire score even if i wanted to.
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
>> In my experience, the singer reads from score, with the proviso that the 
>> vocal line is immediately above the piano line and that the other 
>> instruments on are reduced-size staves above the vocal line. (See, for 
>> example, the score of Pierrot Lunaire
>> .)
>> 
>> The other option would be to provide a piano/vocal score with a piano 
>> reduction of all the instrumental parts. But that may be more trouble than 
>> you need for this particular project.
> 
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[David H. Bailey]

On 5/5/2019 2:21 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
[snip]> Ergo, I am pretty sure it has to do with the computer's setup, 
or Mojave
itself. There must be a setting I have overlooked, which prevents the 
computer from talking properly to the printer.



[snip]

Have you tried hooking a cable up between your macbook and the printer 
and printing directly, just to see if Mojave will actually print to that 
printer without any network situation intervening?


It's just a thought, and I'm not a Mac person so it may be a silly 
suggestion but it seems everything else has failed so I thought I'd put 
it out there as a possibility. If you can hook up directly and it does 
print from your macbook then you'll know it's a network issue with 
Mojave.  If you can hook up directly and still can't print then you'll 
know it's a Mojave/HPLJ5000 issue that you'd most likely need to take up 
with HP (which will probably tell you to contact Apple) or with Apple 
(which will most likely tell you to contact HP.)


Please keep us posted with whatever else you find out because I'm sure 
you're not the only person with that problem.



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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Johannes Gebauer]

On my wife's computer I get what I assume is the normal ping response 
with a ms-value for each ping.


My Macbook like my wife's is connected via WIFI, mine doesn't even have 
an ethernet connection.


Everything worked fine until I upgraded to Mojave.

The WIFI in the house consists of

A Fritzbox router connected to the DSL
Another Fritzbox router used as a WIFI repeater, where the printer is 
connected via ethernet.


My Macbook lives in the same room as that repeater fritzbox, so it 
usually connects to that WIFI.


There is also a little Fritz WIFI repeater, which is what my wife's 
computer is connected through.


Just to make sure that this doesn't play a role, I took my computer into 
that room, it connected to the WIFI through the little repeater (the 
Fritzbox can show the Mesh-setup in detail). No change, it could still 
not access the printer. The WIFI access was now identical to my wife's 
Mac, at least in terms of where the computer was connected in relation 
to the printer.


Ergo, I am pretty sure it has to do with the computer's setup, or Mojave 
itself. There must be a setting I have overlooked, which prevents the 
computer from talking properly to the printer.


Johannes

Am 05.05.19 um 19:18 schrieb Robert Patterson:

So first things first. Check that ping actually produces different results
on your wife's machine. Then make doubly certain you have the right IP
address. After that you have to start investigating why your computer can't
see the printer. Do you have any separate routers or wifi access points
other than your main router?

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:16 PM Johannes Gebauer
wrote:


So here is the real result:

[Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer% ping 192.168.178.29
PING 192.168.178.29 (192.168.178.29): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
^Z
Suspended
[Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer%

Expected?

Am 05.05.19 um 18:31 schrieb Robert Patterson:

Suppose your printer's IP address is 192.168.1.5. Open your terminal and
type in

ping 192.168.1.5

If your computer can see the address it should start responding
continuously until you hit ctrl-Z. If it doesn't, then for some reason

your

computer doesn't see the printer.

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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Robert Patterson]

If your ethernet is wired, turn off wifi on your computer.

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:18 PM Robert Patterson <
rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:

> So first things first. Check that ping actually produces different results
> on your wife's machine. Then make doubly certain you have the right IP
> address. After that you have to start investigating why your computer can't
> see the printer. Do you have any separate routers or wifi access points
> other than your main router?
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:16 PM Johannes Gebauer <
> li...@musikmanufaktur.com> wrote:
>
>> So here is the real result:
>>
>> [Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer% ping 192.168.178.29
>> PING 192.168.178.29 (192.168.178.29): 56 data bytes
>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
>> Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
>> ^Z
>> Suspended
>> [Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer%
>>
>> Expected?
>>
>> Am 05.05.19 um 18:31 schrieb Robert Patterson:
>> > Suppose your printer's IP address is 192.168.1.5. Open your terminal and
>> > type in
>> >
>> > ping 192.168.1.5
>> >
>> > If your computer can see the address it should start responding
>> > continuously until you hit ctrl-Z. If it doesn't, then for some reason
>> your
>> > computer doesn't see the printer.
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Robert Patterson]

So first things first. Check that ping actually produces different results
on your wife's machine. Then make doubly certain you have the right IP
address. After that you have to start investigating why your computer can't
see the printer. Do you have any separate routers or wifi access points
other than your main router?

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:16 PM Johannes Gebauer 
wrote:

> So here is the real result:
>
> [Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer% ping 192.168.178.29
> PING 192.168.178.29 (192.168.178.29): 56 data bytes
> Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
> Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
> Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
> Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
> Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
> Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
> Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
> Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
> ^Z
> Suspended
> [Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer%
>
> Expected?
>
> Am 05.05.19 um 18:31 schrieb Robert Patterson:
> > Suppose your printer's IP address is 192.168.1.5. Open your terminal and
> > type in
> >
> > ping 192.168.1.5
> >
> > If your computer can see the address it should start responding
> > continuously until you hit ctrl-Z. If it doesn't, then for some reason
> your
> > computer doesn't see the printer.
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Johannes Gebauer]

So here is the real result:

[Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer% ping 192.168.178.29
PING 192.168.178.29 (192.168.178.29): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
^Z
Suspended
[Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer%

Expected?

Am 05.05.19 um 18:31 schrieb Robert Patterson:

Suppose your printer's IP address is 192.168.1.5. Open your terminal and
type in

ping 192.168.1.5

If your computer can see the address it should start responding
continuously until you hit ctrl-Z. If it doesn't, then for some reason your
computer doesn't see the printer.


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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Johannes Gebauer]

Sorry, please ignore this, the printer was off. I'll try again...


Am 05.05.19 um 19:11 schrieb Johannes Gebauer:

Dear Robert,

I get this:

Last login: Sun May  5 16:50:07 on ttys000
[Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer% ping 192.168.178.29
PING 192.168.178.29 (192.168.178.29): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
ping: sendto: No route to host
Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 8
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 9
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 10
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 11
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 12
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 13
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 14
^Z
Suspended
[Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer%

Is this what you would expect?


Am 05.05.19 um 18:31 schrieb Robert Patterson:

Suppose your printer's IP address is 192.168.1.5. Open your terminal and
type in

ping 192.168.1.5

If your computer can see the address it should start responding
continuously until you hit ctrl-Z. If it doesn't, then for some reason 
your

computer doesn't see the printer.


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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Johannes Gebauer]

Dear Robert,

I get this:

Last login: Sun May  5 16:50:07 on ttys000
[Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer% ping 192.168.178.29
PING 192.168.178.29 (192.168.178.29): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
ping: sendto: No route to host
Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 8
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 9
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 10
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 11
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 12
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 13
ping: sendto: Host is down
Request timeout for icmp_seq 14
^Z
Suspended
[Johannes-MacBook:~] johannesgebauer%

Is this what you would expect?


Am 05.05.19 um 18:31 schrieb Robert Patterson:

Suppose your printer's IP address is 192.168.1.5. Open your terminal and
type in

ping 192.168.1.5

If your computer can see the address it should start responding
continuously until you hit ctrl-Z. If it doesn't, then for some reason your
computer doesn't see the printer.


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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

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Suppose your printer's IP address is 192.168.1.5. Open your terminal and
type in

ping 192.168.1.5

If your computer can see the address it should start responding
continuously until you hit ctrl-Z. If it doesn't, then for some reason your
computer doesn't see the printer.





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> Am 05.05.19 um 18:22 schrieb Robert Patterson:
> > Does the printer answer a ping?
>
> How do I test this?
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

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Am 05.05.19 um 18:22 schrieb Robert Patterson:

Does the printer answer a ping?


How do I test this?
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Robert Patterson]

Does the printer answer a ping?

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 11:21 AM Johannes Gebauer 
wrote:

> Dear Robert,
>
> well, since noone else reported problems of their HP 5000 I assumed
> there must be drier compatibility. However, the real test right now is
> accessing the web interface of the printer, which works from my wife's
> Mac, and even from my iphone, but not from my own Mac. Now, this is
> definitely not a driver issue, as no driver needs to be installed.
>
> So what is it? I can access all other internal network addresses from my
> mac just fine.
>
> This is driving me nuts, I desperately need to print some music out.
>
> Am 05.05.19 um 18:00 schrieb Robert Patterson:
> > i don't know why you doubt lack of compatibility with Mojave. It could
> well
> > be that. How old is the driver, and is there a newer one?
> >
> > In a pinch you should be able to access it as a share on your wife's
> > computer.
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Johannes Gebauer]

Dear Robert,

well, since noone else reported problems of their HP 5000 I assumed 
there must be drier compatibility. However, the real test right now is 
accessing the web interface of the printer, which works from my wife's 
Mac, and even from my iphone, but not from my own Mac. Now, this is 
definitely not a driver issue, as no driver needs to be installed.


So what is it? I can access all other internal network addresses from my 
mac just fine.


This is driving me nuts, I desperately need to print some music out.

Am 05.05.19 um 18:00 schrieb Robert Patterson:

i don't know why you doubt lack of compatibility with Mojave. It could well
be that. How old is the driver, and is there a newer one?

In a pinch you should be able to access it as a share on your wife's
computer.

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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Robert Patterson]

That does sound more like network settings. Can you access any addresses on
your local wireless network? (Like the router address?)

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 11:11 AM Johannes Gebauer 
wrote:

> Another update: Disabling the firewall makes no difference.
>
> I can also not access the web interface of the printer from my Mojave
> Mac, while it can be accessed easily from my wife's El Capitan machine.
>
> There must be a setting here that I haven't found, and it is obviously
> not a driver issue.
>
> Johannes
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Johannes Gebauer]

Another update: Disabling the firewall makes no difference.

I can also not access the web interface of the printer from my Mojave 
Mac, while it can be accessed easily from my wife's El Capitan machine.


There must be a setting here that I haven't found, and it is obviously 
not a driver issue.


Johannes
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

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Yup.  The fact that is does indeed work on your wife’s computer is telling.  
I’m still running Sierra due to incompatibility here with APFS and older OS’s 
on my network.  So I can’t help with Mojave sadly.

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> On May 5, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Johannes Gebauer  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, config page is as it should be, and the printer works fine in the same 
> network from my wife's Mac with El Capitan. So it must be either some 
> security setting with mine, or an incompatiblity with Mojave, which I rather 
> doubt.
> 
> I'll try disabling the firewall as a test.
> 
> Am 05.05.19 um 17:07 schrieb j...@thomastudios.com:
>> Worst-case scenario is that your Jet Direct card is incompatible or toast; 
>> but I kind of doubt the latter.  I had a 5100 that lost all ethernet 
>> connectivity following a power outage.  I purchased a Jet Direct 635 card 
>> from Amazon that fixed my issue, and it was faster, 1000 baseT versus 100 
>> for the old 615 card.
>> Did you print a config page and does it print out the Network info Thomas 
>> alluded to?  After my power outage, a config page showed now JD card 
>> installed, even tho is was indeed there.
>> ***
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>>> On May 5, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Johannes Gebauer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope there are still some HP 5000 users here...
>>> 
>>> I recently upgraded to Macos Mojave, I had been on a much older version 
>>> (Sierra or High Sierra, cannot remember). Ever since I upgraded I cannot 
>>> get my HP 5000 to print any more.
>>> 
>>> Has anything changed in how it is accessed? Is there anything I can do?
>>> 
>>> My HP 5000 is connected via an Ethernet cable to the router, via its J4169A 
>>> interface, which seems to have the latest firmware. The printer is seen in 
>>> the add printer control panel as a Bonjour printer. I tried both this and 
>>> the HP JetDirect - Socket connection.
>>> 
>>> I have enabled all available protocols, but the computer doesn't seem to 
>>> talk to the printer. Nothing gets printed...
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Robert Patterson]

i don't know why you doubt lack of compatibility with Mojave. It could well
be that. How old is the driver, and is there a newer one?

In a pinch you should be able to access it as a share on your wife's
computer.


On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 10:57 AM Johannes Gebauer 
wrote:

> Yes, config page is as it should be, and the printer works fine in the
> same network from my wife's Mac with El Capitan. So it must be either
> some security setting with mine, or an incompatiblity with Mojave, which
> I rather doubt.
>
> I'll try disabling the firewall as a test.
>
> Am 05.05.19 um 17:07 schrieb j...@thomastudios.com:
> > Worst-case scenario is that your Jet Direct card is incompatible or
> toast; but I kind of doubt the latter.  I had a 5100 that lost all ethernet
> connectivity following a power outage.  I purchased a Jet Direct 635 card
> from Amazon that fixed my issue, and it was faster, 1000 baseT versus 100
> for the old 615 card.
> >
> > Did you print a config page and does it print out the Network info
> Thomas alluded to?  After my power outage, a config page showed now JD card
> installed, even tho is was indeed there.
> >
> >
> > ***
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> > ThomaStudios
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 5, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Johannes Gebauer
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I hope there are still some HP 5000 users here...
> >>
> >> I recently upgraded to Macos Mojave, I had been on a much older version
> (Sierra or High Sierra, cannot remember). Ever since I upgraded I cannot
> get my HP 5000 to print any more.
> >>
> >> Has anything changed in how it is accessed? Is there anything I can do?
> >>
> >> My HP 5000 is connected via an Ethernet cable to the router, via its
> J4169A interface, which seems to have the latest firmware. The printer is
> seen in the add printer control panel as a Bonjour printer. I tried both
> this and the HP JetDirect - Socket connection.
> >>
> >> I have enabled all available protocols, but the computer doesn't seem
> to talk to the printer. Nothing gets printed...
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Johannes Gebauer]

Yes, config page is as it should be, and the printer works fine in the 
same network from my wife's Mac with El Capitan. So it must be either 
some security setting with mine, or an incompatiblity with Mojave, which 
I rather doubt.


I'll try disabling the firewall as a test.

Am 05.05.19 um 17:07 schrieb j...@thomastudios.com:

Worst-case scenario is that your Jet Direct card is incompatible or toast; but 
I kind of doubt the latter.  I had a 5100 that lost all ethernet connectivity 
following a power outage.  I purchased a Jet Direct 635 card from Amazon that 
fixed my issue, and it was faster, 1000 baseT versus 100 for the old 615 card.

Did you print a config page and does it print out the Network info Thomas 
alluded to?  After my power outage, a config page showed now JD card installed, 
even tho is was indeed there.


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On May 5, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Johannes Gebauer  wrote:

I hope there are still some HP 5000 users here...

I recently upgraded to Macos Mojave, I had been on a much older version (Sierra 
or High Sierra, cannot remember). Ever since I upgraded I cannot get my HP 5000 
to print any more.

Has anything changed in how it is accessed? Is there anything I can do?

My HP 5000 is connected via an Ethernet cable to the router, via its J4169A 
interface, which seems to have the latest firmware. The printer is seen in the 
add printer control panel as a Bonjour printer. I tried both this and the HP 
JetDirect - Socket connection.

I have enabled all available protocols, but the computer doesn't seem to talk 
to the printer. Nothing gets printed...

Any ideas?
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Re: [Finale] [OT] voice part only

[SN jef chippewa]

yeah they explicitly said they don't need the score, only a 
transposed part (i don't know where the transposed score is or if 
there in fact is one), and there is a fixed (small) budget that is 
just too small for me to do the entire score even if i wanted to.


thanks!


In my experience, the singer reads from score, with the proviso that 
the vocal line is immediately above the piano line and that the 
other instruments on are reduced-size staves above the vocal line. 
(See, for example, the score of Pierrot Lunaire

.)

The other option would be to provide a piano/vocal score with a 
piano reduction of all the instrumental parts. But that may be more 
trouble than you need for this particular project.


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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

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Just to add: The printer works just fine with exactly the same setup 
from my wife's computer running El Capitan. So it is definitely 
something to do with Mojave. Some security setting perhaps?

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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[j...@thomastudios.com]

Worst-case scenario is that your Jet Direct card is incompatible or toast; but 
I kind of doubt the latter.  I had a 5100 that lost all ethernet connectivity 
following a power outage.  I purchased a Jet Direct 635 card from Amazon that 
fixed my issue, and it was faster, 1000 baseT versus 100 for the old 615 card.

Did you print a config page and does it print out the Network info Thomas 
alluded to?  After my power outage, a config page showed now JD card installed, 
even tho is was indeed there.


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> On May 5, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Johannes Gebauer  
> wrote:
> 
> I hope there are still some HP 5000 users here...
> 
> I recently upgraded to Macos Mojave, I had been on a much older version 
> (Sierra or High Sierra, cannot remember). Ever since I upgraded I cannot get 
> my HP 5000 to print any more.
> 
> Has anything changed in how it is accessed? Is there anything I can do?
> 
> My HP 5000 is connected via an Ethernet cable to the router, via its J4169A 
> interface, which seems to have the latest firmware. The printer is seen in 
> the add printer control panel as a Bonjour printer. I tried both this and the 
> HP JetDirect - Socket connection.
> 
> I have enabled all available protocols, but the computer doesn't seem to talk 
> to the printer. Nothing gets printed...
> 
> Any ideas?
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Johannes Gebauer]

This is exactly what I did, but it doesn't seem to work any more.

Am 05.05.19 um 15:44 schrieb Thomas Schaller:

How I always set it up after system upgrades is to print a Configuration page 
from the printer itself to see what IP address it has on the network.
Then use the HP JetDirect connection type and manually enter that IP address.
That usually does it for me.
Good luck,
Thomas


On May 5, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Johannes Gebauer  wrote:

I hope there are still some HP 5000 users here...

I recently upgraded to Macos Mojave, I had been on a much older version (Sierra 
or High Sierra, cannot remember). Ever since I upgraded I cannot get my HP 5000 
to print any more.

Has anything changed in how it is accessed? Is there anything I can do?

My HP 5000 is connected via an Ethernet cable to the router, via its J4169A 
interface, which seems to have the latest firmware. The printer is seen in the 
add printer control panel as a Bonjour printer. I tried both this and the HP 
JetDirect - Socket connection.

I have enabled all available protocols, but the computer doesn't seem to talk 
to the printer. Nothing gets printed...

Any ideas?
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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Thomas Schaller]

How I always set it up after system upgrades is to print a Configuration page 
from the printer itself to see what IP address it has on the network.
Then use the HP JetDirect connection type and manually enter that IP address.
That usually does it for me.
Good luck,
Thomas

> On May 5, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Johannes Gebauer  
> wrote:
> 
> I hope there are still some HP 5000 users here...
> 
> I recently upgraded to Macos Mojave, I had been on a much older version 
> (Sierra or High Sierra, cannot remember). Ever since I upgraded I cannot get 
> my HP 5000 to print any more.
> 
> Has anything changed in how it is accessed? Is there anything I can do?
> 
> My HP 5000 is connected via an Ethernet cable to the router, via its J4169A 
> interface, which seems to have the latest firmware. The printer is seen in 
> the add printer control panel as a Bonjour printer. I tried both this and the 
> HP JetDirect - Socket connection.
> 
> I have enabled all available protocols, but the computer doesn't seem to talk 
> to the printer. Nothing gets printed...
> 
> Any ideas?
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[Johannes Gebauer]

I hope there are still some HP 5000 users here...

I recently upgraded to Macos Mojave, I had been on a much older version 
(Sierra or High Sierra, cannot remember). Ever since I upgraded I cannot 
get my HP 5000 to print any more.


Has anything changed in how it is accessed? Is there anything I can do?

My HP 5000 is connected via an Ethernet cable to the router, via its 
J4169A interface, which seems to have the latest firmware. The printer 
is seen in the add printer control panel as a Bonjour printer. I tried 
both this and the HP JetDirect - Socket connection.


I have enabled all available protocols, but the computer doesn't seem to 
talk to the printer. Nothing gets printed...


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Re: [Finale] [OT] voice part only

[Robert Patterson]

In my experience, the singer reads from score, with the proviso that the
vocal line is immediately above the piano line and that the other
instruments on are reduced-size staves above the vocal line. (See, for
example, the score of Pierrot Lunaire
.)

The other option would be to provide a piano/vocal score with a piano
reduction of all the instrumental parts. But that may be more trouble than
you need for this particular project.

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 5:00 AM SN jef chippewa <
shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote:

>
> i only rarely encounter voice in the ensemble scores i do, so any
> advice would be appreciated.
>
> i've been asked to create the vocal part (no other parts) for a
> late-18th century french song for voice, violin, cello and piano.
> just wanted to make sure that nothing aside from a couple of cues
> would be needed and the part only requires the vocal line.  or is it
> standard to make voice parts as a piano-vocal part (perhaps for
> rehearsal purposes)?
>
> the job is for a professional ensemble that could probably sightread the
> score.
>
> thanks,
> jef
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[Finale] [OT] voice part only

[SN jef chippewa]

i only rarely encounter voice in the ensemble scores i do, so any 
advice would be appreciated.


i've been asked to create the vocal part (no other parts) for a 
late-18th century french song for voice, violin, cello and piano. 
just wanted to make sure that nothing aside from a couple of cues 
would be needed and the part only requires the vocal line.  or is it 
standard to make voice parts as a piano-vocal part (perhaps for 
rehearsal purposes)?


the job is for a professional ensemble that could probably sightread the score.

thanks,
jef

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